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Rose -

I call/write/email every possible source of help with this monster. I get, at

best, one hit out of 20. It doesn't matter; each time a

scientist/doctor/journalist, etc, reads about Morgellons, the better off we are.

A word of advice to anyone who is also attempting to do this: stick with the

science. Whatever our private speculations are about this thing, we should keep

them private when approaching someone " cold " .

Dr. Wymore, , Mark Darrah, Dr. Citovsky are the ones I would choose.

Although I admire Dr. Staninger, I would not use her work because she has never

revealed the lab findings she claims supports her theory. Consequently, nearly

every scientist who reviews her work has dismissed it.

There are others, as well, who consider themselves " experts " . Anyone who claims

to be an expert is blowing smoke, because there isn't one. The research into

this condition isn't even in its infancy; it is embryonic. Those who

self-aggrandize are doing harm to our cause.

Bessie

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prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to offend

anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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There is a YouTube circulating re: forced vaccines and claims that OK has passed

a law. I have a very dear friend who is a life time resident of OK, so I wrote

to him. This is his response, followed by my email to him and the link:

Hell no. These are crazy people. These rednecks would tar and feather any

politician that even suggested mandatory flu vaccinations. I really wonder what

alternative universe these nuts reside.

This can't be for real???

Did OK pass such a law?? Now, the rest of it....well, I don't think so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB7OwPk5Z78 & feature=player_embedded

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prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to offend

anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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You are right and surely is embryonic...Thank You for info I have it..Gonna get

with it

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From: " Bessie " <bessieglavas@...>

bird mites

Subject: Re: If worst case happens ???

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:11:11 -0000

Rose -

I call/write/email every possible source of help with this monster. I get, at

best, one hit out of 20. It doesn't matter; each time a

scientist/doctor/journalist, etc, reads about Morgellons, the better off we are.

A word of advice to anyone who is also attempting to do this: stick with the

science. Whatever our private speculations are about this thing, we should keep

them private when approaching someone " cold " .

Dr. Wymore, , Mark Darrah, Dr. Citovsky are the ones I would choose.

Although I admire Dr. Staninger, I would not use her work because she has never

revealed the lab findings she claims supports her theory. Consequently, nearly

every scientist who reviews her work has dismissed it.

There are others, as well, who consider themselves " experts " . Anyone who claims

to be an expert is blowing smoke, because there isn't one. The research into

this condition isn't even in its infancy; it is embryonic. Those who

self-aggrandize are doing harm to our cause.

Bessie

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prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to offend

anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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Sometimes I wonder if they are altered,but i don't want to look at any of these

" things " under a microscope,too chicken

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From: " Lynn " <torpedolynn@...>

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Subject: Re: If worst case happens ???

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:58:26 -0000

I love it when people leave links. I am so poor at surfing the web it helps me

when I have it provided and you amaze me with all the links you always feed up

to us. I read this one and started to think. At first I thought it was everyone

had slowly gotton poor health from our inviroment that weaken the immune system.

Than lately I hear how healthy people were before their family came down with

this. So I was thinking. Sense virus and mold can get stronger. Maybe healthy

and ill people have come in contact with mites carrying the molds or bactreria

or viruses that is feed into us and it weakens our immune system. Maybe that is

why some have whole familys whom get this. Those whose bodys do not get as ill

have a higher resistance to the type of mold/bacteria/virus that the mite they

have brought to them. That makes more sense to me than an altered bug. But also

I would not be surprized if it was an altered bug. maybe it is a lab grown

mold/bacteria/virus that was planted in one bug and spread to other bugs making

them carriers. Who knows. You know as I go through like my list of questions to

ask God keeps getting longer and it surpirzes me what question in each stage of

life will get to the front of the line. lol.

In Light Lynn

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offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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Staninger kind of reminds me of a mad scientist. She has her own niche in the

Morgellons world, like Trish. I don't know how I am on her views. Part of me

believes what she tells me because she makes it sound like so much sense, but

then there is a part of me who says no one could know that much information

about such a vast complex thing? (I think to think of Morgellons as an

ecosystem attacking the body rather than a plain virus, bacteria or parasite.)

I think she does a lot of guessing. On whether is guessing is right or not, I

have no idea.

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prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to offend

anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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OK; here are some of the many things we've done so far:

We vacuumed all floors in house 5-6 days per week times 6 months.

We vacuumed each car 2-3 times per week times 6 months.

We put tri-die in switch plates and wall voids (insulation gets in the way

though).

Sprayed Dri-one in subarea beneath house.

Ripped out insulation with rats nest in it in our attic and caught 5 rats last

Feb.

We had a professional company called Therma Pure heat the house and they failed

miserably and cost us thousands in damage to our wood floors. They over-heated

about 1/2 of the house and way-under-heated the other 1/2 the house. The mites

just moved around temporarily to avoid the heat and we had to pay the company

thousands!

We've tried several pest control companies who sprayed our yard, subarea, attic,

cars, and baseboards.

We sprayed Arm & Hammer on all surfaces (walls, ceilings, floors, furniture)and

let it dry there.

We've put roach prufe all over the house for the past 3 weeks (and it is still

there.

We've soaked many items and surfaces w/sterifab, bleach, etc... These kill well

on contact.

We torn out all of the carpet in the house (5 rooms + a staircase).

We've cleaned everything and all surface in house with a professional steam

cleaner (expensive).

We bought a special washer and wash all laundry on a steam/sterile setting.

We have all clothes and linens in bins on tables with carpet tape arounds legs

of tables.

We wash hair with selsum blue and bodies are scrubbed with tea tree Dr.

Bronner's and SB in shower 1-3 times a day...

We bleach shower before and after each use.

We treat the dog and cat w/advantage 2times per month.

We are using a little Benzyl Peroxide at times when we fell crawling... but it

really hurt the inside of my ears and it hurt the skin on my husband's neck; so

we are careful now to only use a little and NOT in the ears and not where sun

exposure may occur.

We sprayed Tempo SC, Demand, and Nylar (ourselves) many times in many different

places and on many different surfaces in the house and cars over time.

So far we have found that scrubbing, bleach (10-min), and sterifab (10-min)

work to kill them upon contact... Deet keeps them off of us and our shoes when

we were it. Nothing has gotten to the source so far though.

We are exhaused and overwhelmed in the same way others on this site are. We

very much want suggestions from others who have beat this. We will try almost

anything that has been 100% sucessful for other over time as long as it not too

dangerous health-wise.

We are still hoping for the success with roach prufe that others have found.

Has anyone had any sucess with food grade DE in the environment? We bought a

huge bag of it... but it didn't help Rita as much as Roach Prufe so we haven't

used it yet.

DM

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prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to offend

anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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MMS baths and DE Orange Guard Fels Naptha for laundry with borax. Sulfa shampoo

I make my own with flower of sulfa. Coconut oil with flower of sulfa apply all

over body then bathe then soak in mms1. For me I was the host more than my

environment. Bifen in yard and house if chemicals are considered. I am free of

this creature but without the mms1 I would be reinfected daily I believe.

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prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to offend

anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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http://jimhumble.biz/biz-tubbath.htm

http://www.orangeguard.com/

http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/Fels_Naptha_Soap_p/dial1001.htm

http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/category_s/24.htm

http://www.bugspray.com/catalog/products/page718.html

http://www.pennherb.com/cgi-bin/herbstore.cgi/herb?;Sulphur

http://www.coconutoil.com/

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offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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ears

http://www.tipking.co.uk/tip/5051.html

nose

http://www.vicks.com/products/vapor-inhaler

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how to prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to

offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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Spray bedding with wintergreen alcohol or mix half and half with vinegar white

distilled, use no towels when getting out of shower bath dry naturally or use

hair dryer.

http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080269177

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how to prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to

offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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M.,

What about vacuuming- how often, and with what, do you do that?

D.

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to prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to

offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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Impressive protocol!

One thing for sure- these critters keep you busier than ever.

Any laziness on your part, will be dealt with swiftly (and brutally).

D.

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prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to offend

anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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These bugs change our entire lives.

If this were'nt happening to me personally, I don't know if I'd believe it, or

have as much compassion for those suffering from it.

D.

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to offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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I vacuumed daily and still was bitten until they were off of me. Something else

I did that may have helped was I took the carpet up put DE under the carpet then

put the carpet back down I have no padding though. I also bought the tri jet

fogger and fogged the basement and attic. Neither are assessable from the main

level. I still feel for me I was the host not my environment. Also activated

mms1 on saucers was very helpful. Now I vacuum pretty much when the dogs are

shedding or company is coming, I tore a bunch of vacuums up.:) I also shampooed

with borax and vinegar I think that helped to.

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how to prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to

offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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One more thing I forgot I put DE on the carpet topside left several weeks then

took sprayer and with vinegar water sprayed the carpet pretty much soaked and

took a shop vac and took the water up. Just be sure and pour the water in the

toilet not your sink or tub, also forgot I put vinegar or bleach down my drains

every week until the mms1 now I use it instead. They were in my water lines

because my sink clogged up and I used the shop vac to get the water out dumped

outside and the net week I had springtails everywhere. So I think we need to

treat our drains shower sinks ect.

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how to prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to

offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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D often when I read my writings I would think myself insane if it were not me.

:) We are not insane this creature is everywhere.

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to offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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Rose -

Good luck - what a great connection you have - Dr. Levy! Wow!

Bessie

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anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

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Lynn -

I don't even know who that guy is supposed to be! That video goes beyond saying

that OK passed a mandatory vaccination law (it didn't), but goes on to say that

everyone will get a bracelet when vaccinated proving that they were, and the

bracelet has an RFID chip and cannot be removed.

I don't know if it is craziness or just trying to rile people. The same thing

happened with MA:

http://www.mma.org/municipal-services/4040-dph-commissioner-seeks-to-dispel-mand\

atory-vaccination-rumors

Bessie

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offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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I also forgot I have incorporated these two simple cheap and effective

treatments too.

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Homeopathic products are under the same regulations as allopathic drugs.

Homeopathic products are considered by the FDA as over-the-counter drugs with

legal status and can be sold without a doctor's prescription. Homeopathics Are

Regulated By the FDA. Every homeopathic product bears a National Drug Code

number, ensuring the consumer that the product has been made in concordance to

The Homeopathic Pharmacopeia of the U.S. Homeopathic medicines are prepared and

marketed in accordance with FDA Compliance Policy Guide No. 7132.15.

Manufacturers of homeopathic medicines are registered with the FDA and licensed

by state regulatory agencies.

We can legally tell you the benefits and indications of homeopathic remedies.

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http://www.elixirs.com/begin.cfm#fda

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keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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That is exactly how I feel! It took a long time before it really crystalized

for me, but I agree - she does a lot of guessing, but when you mix it up with

her considerable scientific knowledge and background, it's hard to sort that

out. Whatever the case, she does know how to get people better.

Bessie

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offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is

keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency

plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very

serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really

did bring out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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Lynn, I'm glad you finally got your disability. It dawns on me this may be one

of the many reasons the Center for Disease Creation continues to stall. This

condition is truly debilitating, and there would be an overwhelming storm of

disability applications if this were ever acknowledged by the medical

establishment.

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prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to offend

anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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Thanks M.,

It's a continual test of inner strength (dealing with this). And as in any war,

you lose a few battles.

But the war rages on.....

The time, resources expended, energy, stress- all take their toll.

Maybe we should have a toll poll? ;0)

A very example, of how crazy you have to be, to deal with this (obviously,

having a good sense of humor will save your life).

D.

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suggestions on how to prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and

not meaning to offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to

mind for me is keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an

emergency plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things

could be very serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess

adversity really did bring out the best in people in the case of this

group.....R

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D You are right there I think I am about ready for the toll poll in the bed

getting sleepy. Good Night All

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suggestions on how to prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and

not meaning to offend anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to

mind for me is keeping my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an

emergency plan,honestly I am not into this for the drama I just think things

could be very serious...I truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess

adversity really did bring out the best in people in the case of this

group.....R

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I believe Darlitia did successfully Lynn. Here is one of her protocols. I know

she added Dr Bonner peppermint bar soap scrub down before the ESP soap to it.

The ESP Botanicals New Hope 2 is stronger now than the New Hope.

Bohemia <dc.anon@...> wrote:

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> Below is my current protocol and I seem to be doing awsome on it.

> I will keep you posted.

> Hugs,

> Darlitia

>

>

> External Body Use:

>

> 1.) ESP Botanical New Hope Line - http://www.espbotanicals.com/

> ESP New Hope Kit: soap for body and mask, balm for nightly & morning cream,

Shampoo for hair, Bath oils for body, Toner/Spray for ears and crawlies, Syrum

for touch ups throughout the day.

>

> 2) Roto V: for eyes, two sets, one for home, one in at work.

>

> 3.) Epsom Salt for the really active days and as a back up to other products.

>

> 4.) Olive oil for the really active days and as a back up to other products.

>

> Internal Body Use:

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> 5.) Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar 1 shot twice a day. Or Nature's Life Apple

Cider Vinegar tablets: 1 tablet 250 mg twice day equivalent to 3 teaspoons.

>

> 6.) Vitamin D3 2000 units, Vitamin D is crucial twice a day

> Take 1000 units in the morning and 1000 units in the evening

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> 7.) Multiple Vitamins twice a day, it should have Cs B6, B12, Vit E,

Magnesium,

> and Calcium..

>

> 8.) Lugols http://www.jcrows.com/iodine.html - order the Lugols,

> Take 2 drops of Lugols twice a day. Once at night and once in the morning. It

is potassium iodine, we are very depleted in iodine in this country and its

necessary for the thyroid and the endocrine system.

>

> 9.) Opaline Dry Oxy – http://www.opalinesolutions.com/instructions_ic.html

> Take three tablets in the morning and three in the evening.

>

> 10.) http://www.vaxa.com/ order the PH Buffer, Strips and Parasitin,

> When you order ask them for their film on how to PH your body. When you get

the Buffers, Don't start with 6, start with 3. Learn to check your PH levels

twice a day at first this will change your body's attraction to these things by

changing the ionic charge at the cellular level, if you change the ionic

attraction of the body they will begin to stay away from you. PH Buffer and PH

Strips http://www.vaxa.com/search.cfm?keywords=ph%20test%20strips

> Parasitic Cleansing Program contains: 2 bottles of Parasitin (240 caps total),

and 1 bottle each of Colon-Aid+ (120caps) and ReFlora+ (120 caps).

http://www.vaxa.com/search.cfm?keywords=parasitin

> And ask for the PH Film.

>

> Environmental Use:

>

> 11.) Borax used on each load of laundry and on carpet as needed.

>

> 12.) Arm & Hammer Laundry Detergent with baking soda:

> Used on each load of laundry.

>

> 13.) Ceder/Sage Spray used after every shower and bath,

> Used in the bedroom on air mattress and walls and used in the whole bathroom.

>

> 14.) Cedar Incense, used as needed. If no incense use menthol pellets and a

diffuser in room.

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> 15.) Going Green: Use organic foods and green products wherever possible. Also

making an effort to eat foods to strengthen immune system.

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> Medical Use:

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> 16.) Will follow through with testing for Lymes and the attendant antibiotic

when I can afford and next budget for it. Most likely in one to two months from

now.

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olynn@...> wrote:

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> Oh you have done alot. I am afraid if you leave it will just go with you. I do

not recall anyone who has left their infested place whare they did not soon also

have the next place infested. It would waste more time and money I think if you

did. Does anyone on this site know of anyone whom walked away successfully??? I

do have a solution that may help. I will e-mail you okay?...

>

> In Light Lynn

>

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Hi D,

Why don't you try a new approach? Why don't you try working on your attraction

to them? An example would be like altering your pH. One thing that has really

worked for me is the infrared sauna. You don't need to go out and buy one.

They should have some in your area where you can just go for 30 - 60 minutes.

You notice results by the third time. At first they'll starting biting your

lower body only, soon just you legs, and soon then your feet. Then they'll kind

of stop. I've kind of plateaued but the difference after infrared is like

feeling infested with fleas and being normal with an itch.

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prepare...realize We may need a chat room of our own and not meaning to offend

anyone but what if it is truly the case???What comes to mind for me is keeping

my loved ones close,stockpiling certain things,having an emergency plan,honestly

I am not into this for the drama I just think things could be very serious...I

truly appreciate the brilliance of this group,guess adversity really did bring

out the best in people in the case of this group.....R

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