Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 WOW! If you have Citovsky working on your side you are very correct. He is a legend in plant pathology and I had to read a number of his papers before doing my own plant experiments.Although I'd still love to help and get in touch with him to help, if Citovsky says there are Agrobacterium in people the scientific community will listen. That's serious big time stuff.Do you still believe there is a parasitic insect or mite factor to this deal. Because my PI is also highly respected with lots and lots of funding, and if I went to him without evidence he would probably laugh me out of the program.But if I say Citovsky's got some ideas, you could see a potential collaboration that might be necessary to get to the bottom of this problem arise quickly. Either way, this is a huge deal. You've got the ear of a PIONEER in plant science.From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas@...>Subject: Re: Environment help on MMSbird mites Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 10:32 PM - I am not the one doing the research - it is Dr. Randy Wymore from the University of OK at Tulsa. He did the first FTIR elemental analysis, and is having it replicated independently. The original agrobacteria study was done by Dr. Citovsky, one of the foremost scientists working with agrobacteria in the world. Since you know something about agrobacteria, then you know that it has been highly genetically engineered, and is the main method for creating genetically modified foods (via lateral gene transfer). Dr. Citovsky did, in fact, find agrobacteria in the skin of victims, but not in the normal controls. This study is being replicated. Samples have already been collected; hopefully the results will be forthcoming. If you are serious about trying to help out, I will put you in touch with Dr. Wymore. BUT - I need to communicate privately with you. Bessie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can not seem to get to the jimhumble.biz site from my computer. I > > > > > > > > > would like to see if there is a way to run mms in a vaporizor like > > > > > > > > > Bessie did with the H202. I would like to see what he suggests for > > > > > > > > > treating the environment. I hope that it would be safe to use in the > > > > > > > > > air. I think he does have some passive use suggestions somewhere. I'm > > > > > > > > > over any aggressiver spraying or anything that is going to damage my > > > > > > > > > house or me...lol. If anyone can help...thanks > > > > > > > > > > bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 When you feel something, look down, and see a hole in your skin, rub your finger across it and smear fresh blood, what would the general conclusion be? I am not being facetious. It is a serious question. Thx, kj From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas>Subject: Re: Environment help on MMSbird mitesDate: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 10:32 PM -I am not the one doing the research - it is Dr. Randy Wymore from the University of OK at Tulsa. He did the first FTIR elemental analysis, and is having it replicated independently. The original agrobacteria study was done by Dr. Citovsky, one of the foremost scientists working with agrobacteria in the world. Since you know something about agrobacteria, then you know that it has been highly genetically engineered, and is the main method for creating genetically modified foods (via lateral gene transfer).Dr. Citovsky did, in fact, find agrobacteria in the skin of victims, but not in the normal controls.This study is being replicated. Samples have already been collected; hopefully the results will be forthcoming.If you are serious about trying to help out, I will put you in touch with Dr. Wymore. BUT - I need to communicate privately with you. Bessie> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I can not seem to get to the jimhumble.biz site from my computer. I> > > > > > > > > would like to see if there is a way to run mms in a vaporizor like> > > > > > > > > Bessie did with the H202. I would like to see what he suggests for> > > > > > > > > treating the environment. I hope that it would be safe to use in the> > > > > > > > > air. I think he does have some passive use suggestions somewhere. I'm> > > > > > > > > over any aggressiver spraying or anything that is going to damage my> > > > > > > > > house or me...lol. If anyone can help...thanks> > > > > > > > > > bob> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I just have a hard time seeing a mite connection with agrobacterium. Although I never ever in my wildest dreams would I expected they could infest humans either.Collembera, I mean if they are eating bacteria in the soil then who knows. Possible, but it is just beyond my comprehension. Not that I doubt you or your claims, I just can't fit it into my understanding of the world! I will elaborate on that idea in my next post. From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas>Subject: Re: Environment help on MMSbird mitesDate: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 10:32 PM -I am not the one doing the research - it is Dr. Randy Wymore from the University of OK at Tulsa. He did the first FTIR elemental analysis, and is having it replicated independently. The original agrobacteria study was done by Dr. Citovsky, one of the foremost scientists working with agrobacteria in the world. Since you know something about agrobacteria, then you know that it has been highly genetically engineered, and is the main method for creating genetically modified foods (via lateral gene transfer).Dr. Citovsky did, in fact, find agrobacteria in the skin of victims, but not in the normal controls.This study is being replicated. Samples have already been collected; hopefully the results will be forthcoming.If you are serious about trying to help out, I will put you in touch with Dr. Wymore. BUT - I need to communicate privately with you. Bessie> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I can not seem to get to the jimhumble.biz site from my computer. I> > > > > > > > > would like to see if there is a way to run mms in a vaporizor like> > > > > > > > > Bessie did with the H202. I would like to see what he suggests for> > > > > > > > > treating the environment. I hope that it would be safe to use in the> > > > > > > > > air. I think he does have some passive use suggestions somewhere. I'm> > > > > > > > > over any aggressiver spraying or anything that is going to damage my> > > > > > > > > house or me...lol. If anyone can help...thanks> > > > > > > > > > bob> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 - Dr. Staninger claims that Morgellons victims are infected by foreign dna - plasmids, virons - from a variety of sources, including but not limited to plants & insects. If that is true, then perhaps the agrobac is attracted to the " plant " part? I understand that Dr. Citovsky is backing away from the firestorm that his study has caused. Not that he is saying that the research was flawed, but more that he probably never envisioned his career leading him to be at the center of such controversy. The MRF commissioned him to look for agrobac; I don't know what lead them to think it was there to begin with. Bessie > > > > > > I just have a hard time seeing a mite connection with agrobacterium. Although I never ever in my wildest dreams would I expected they could infest humans either. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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