Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 , I have thought about the same and find it most grueling to experience this living hell while I am still alive. My heart goes out to you. ~marguerite From: sarah3dw <nuthatch_mins@...>Subject: When I die...bird mites Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 1:00 AM I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, bothering myskin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking aboutit... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer to becremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and couldn'tbear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my ears,nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go through itwhile still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died andgone to hell... PS sorry for miserable post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I second this post! And, my heart goes out to you as well . Sincerely, Sue , I have thought about the same and find it most grueling to experience this living hell while I am still alive. My heart goes out to you. ~marguerite From: sarah3dw <nuthatch_mins (DOT) co.uk>Subject: When I die...bird mites Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 1:00 AM I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, bothering myskin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking aboutit... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer to becremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and couldn'tbear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my ears,nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go through itwhile still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died andgone to hell... PS sorry for miserable post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 - I felt that way often during the first few months of this. I truly considered it, as I was far from family and friends which further increased the surrealistic quality of my life. Never thought I'd come back from that God-forsaken place, but I did. Bessie > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, bothering my > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking about > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer to be > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and couldn't > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my ears, > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go through it > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died and > gone to hell... > > PS sorry for miserable post! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Marguerite, Sue and Bessie, thanks for your responses. To you and to everyone on the site I'd like to say that reading all your messages gives me hope, and I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't found this group. (Still find it hard to understand that the medical and scientific community can see people suffering and because they don't know what is going on their attitude is " I see no problem " , rather than that people need help, let's find out what is happening here. I am convinced we are the tip of the iceberg and that many people have this problem.) > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, bothering my > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking about > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer to be > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and couldn't > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my ears, > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go through it > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died and > > gone to hell... > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I wish I would die by accident. I sound a bit psyco I guess, but I'm tired of life. The only thing that would keep me from intentionally dying is the pain it would bring to my family and friends. It's not just the mites for me, but the feeling of rejection I from people, even if the feeling is conjured up inside me from issues in the past. Mites justs adds to the hassle of life and rejection from others. - requireshelp From: sarah3dw <nuthatch_mins@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 12:03:33 PMSubject: Re: When I die... Marguerite, Sue and Bessie, thanks for your responses. To you and toeveryone on the site I'd like to say that reading all your messagesgives me hope, and I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't foundthis group. (Still find it hard to understand that the medical andscientific community can see people suffering and because they don'tknow what is going on their attitude is "I see no problem", rather thanthat people need help, let's find out what is happening here. I amconvinced we are the tip of the iceberg and that many people have thisproblem.) > >> >> > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me,bothering my> > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinkingabout> > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would preferto be> > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects andcouldn't> > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of myears,> > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should gothrough it> > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already diedand> > gone to hell... > >> > PS sorry for miserable post!> >> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I also think this is the tip of the iceberg. Two people who are close to me have symptoms, and have actually had them longer than I have (over 5 years). Neither got as bad as me...don't know why...and one is in complete denial, the other half and half. How many more are there? I shudder to think. Bessie > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > bothering my > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > about > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > to be > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > couldn't > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > ears, > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > through it > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > and > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 JS - Many of us feel that way, though most of us don't talk about it openly on public forums.(Have had lots of phone conversations about this). My 61st birthday is in 2 weeks, and I feel fortunate that the stuff hit the fan after I'd had something of a life. I feel TERRIBLE for the young people; I can barely think about how unfair this is to them. I'm ready to go at a moment's notice - all packed and set to go. I can't imagine anything for the remainder of my life except trying to avoid " relapse " . But as you say, I think about my family and friends, and so wait " my turn " . Bessie > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > bothering my > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > about > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > to be > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > couldn't > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > ears, > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > through it > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > and > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 No you dont sound psycho. The depression that accompanies this is unreal. The reality of the world we live in is ugly. It seems to be amplified by 1000 with this affliction. I dont think any of us will ever be the same. I am choosing to do something positive with this experience. I will forever help as many people as i can with this affliction. I havent worked it all out yet, but when i dont have to focus so much on getting rid of mites i have a project that i will be starting. Jay, you have helped me so much. It hurts me to see you feeling sad and unloved. Please dont lose hope. You have my email if you need to talk im all ears. Love and Luck Holly > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > bothering my > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > about > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > to be > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > couldn't > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > ears, > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > through it > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > and > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I think It's really good that people express their feelings.When I worked in long term care my patients used to hang with me as I was passing meds.One said they wanted to die and about 3 more patients said they think about wanting to die.We had a little group in the hallway.I don't think of dying much but alot of my friends are suffering terribly because of the economy...for me the isolation is the worst so I have to at least talk on the phone...I'm glad to hear anyones feelings.Now I know I can be real if i am having a tough,lousy day...Thank you and Blessings --- bessieglavas@... wrote: From: " Bessie Glavas " <bessieglavas@...> bird mites Subject: Re: When I die... Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 20:00:35 -0000 I also think this is the tip of the iceberg. Two people who are close to me have symptoms, and have actually had them longer than I have (over 5 years). Neither got as bad as me...don't know why...and one is in complete denial, the other half and half. How many more are there? I shudder to think. Bessie > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > bothering my > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > about > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > to be > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > couldn't > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > ears, > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > through it > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > and > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Very well said Holly, and so very true! I wish there were some way we could get together sometimes, as we really need someone who truly understands what we go through. I have a Verizon cell phone, and would be more than happy to chat with Jay, or anyone for that matter. Sincerely, Sue L. No you dont sound psycho. The depression that accompanies this is unreal. The reality of the world we live in is ugly. It seems to be amplified by 1000 with this affliction. I dont think any of us will ever be the same. I am choosing to do something positive with this experience. I will forever help as many people as i can with this affliction. I havent worked it all out yet, but when i dont have to focus so much on getting rid of mites i have a project that i will be starting.Jay, you have helped me so much. It hurts me to see you feeling sad and unloved. Please dont lose hope. You have my email if you need to talk im all ears.Love and LuckHolly> > >> > >> > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me,> bothering my> > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking> about> > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer> to be> > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and> couldn't> > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my> ears,> > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go> through it> > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died> and> > > gone to hell... > > >> > > PS sorry for miserable post!> > >> >> > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now> http://ca.toolbar..> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 HI , I think I speak for many that a lot of us feel some kind of major depression at times and that we are truly experiencing hell on earth...we are all in a crisis for sure and I never thought my reality would be living in the " outer limits " . At times I want to scream and maybe it would be good for all of us to do that every once in a while...! The following might be something to think about later, not during this time... ....but in my darkest hour, in my anger and despair, I eventually began to look for the positive--it was a conscious choice out of survival. And I increased the time that I counted my blessings, even if it was to be able to go to the store and get what I needed for dinner....or warm water to bathe in. Think of how many things we took for granted before we got this...just to be able to put on a pair of jeans and run out the door....you can get really detailed about this. I think that after a while, gratitude is repaid to you in some positive way. I am not saying that I still don't get angry, desperate--or depressed. I am just saying I found tools to help me ride it out. And getting on this or other forums is good too. We all need to help each other. But having been through what you are going through, there are some days where you just have to chalk it up with resignation until another day. I try to focus on how I actually feel quite blessed in many ways as this experience has really shown me that while at times I feel so very alone with this [you find out who your friends are, for sure!], in my isolation--which is so very hard-- I have really strengthened my connection with God and feel like I now have divine guidance from an outside source, directing me to the right answers to my personal situation and questions. I have also learned so many things, and one is to listen to my body in what to do next, remembering to thank your body too, for being such a good warrior. Tell yourself as many possible positive thoughts as you can think of...sit down when you are feeling better and write down a list. I think we will need these tools for other curve balls down the path. I hope that someday we will eventually see the reasoning behind all this, but we might just have to look hard for it. Again, it is also good that you expressed yourself to everyone-- reaching out to others for help connects all of us in a very special way. I hope I will continue to be shown the way, but I have to remember to ask...and then listen. Taking one step at a time, i do believe that all things are possible and there is spiritual guidance out there and within, no matter what your religion is. I think I can say that I too have other painful issues to deal with, even after I beat this. I try not to think about the past, nor the future...this takes great discipline --which I have never had btw, but it helps me to strive for this. So there is another positive...that it is good to learn to live just in the moment, the present. For sure, we will never be the same after this illness, but it just may be for the better if we can search for the good out of it that hopefully will overpower the horror and psychological trauma that we have all endured. Another thing I tend to believe is that we were the chosen 'yellow canaries' here to tell the world what is coming down the road...so hang in there as a brighter day could be just around the corner....we may have a purpose after all. And give yourself some credits and pat yourself on the back for being such a 'warrior' throughout all this!!! You are not alone! Love and Hugs to you, Pdidit > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > > bothering my > > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > > about > > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > > to be > > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > > couldn't > > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > > ears, > > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > > through it > > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > > and > > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > > http://ca.toolbar.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Dear JS, very sad that you feel that way, but I know what you mean as I often do too. I feel very grateful to have the few people I am closest to, and wouldn't want to make them suffer more. I 've been through some very hard things before, but now that every moment is torment (some days) I wish I'd known how lucky I was before. I look at people in the street and think with amazement that they don't have mites and all the hassle that brings. What it would be like to live an ordinary life even with all my other problems! What keeps me going is (1) my beloved family, (2) the knowledge that everything always changes, everything passes, everything comes to end (not just life, but problems do too eventually) and there are always new beginnings, new hope (this is from my past experience), and (3) to my surprise, this group, and knowing that you and all the other people in the group are out there and somehow with me in this battle. Don't give up. > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > bothering my > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > about > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > to be > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > couldn't > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > ears, > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > through it > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > and > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > http://ca.toolbar.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Thanks Pdidit, wise words and encouragement - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > > > bothering my > > > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > > > about > > > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > > > to be > > > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > > > couldn't > > > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > > > ears, > > > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > > > through it > > > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > > > and > > > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > > > http://ca.toolbar.. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I've been depressed all my life (with good reason) but none of those cares really compare to this. Those problems were solvable; I just had to get out of my sh*t and do the work to fix them. Yeah, I've had some horrible expriences and unbelievable problems -- but this dwarfs them all. The depression is stunning and incredible much of the time. All I can do in empathize. I'd like to live the life I want right now, but I spend so much time cleaning, taking care of parents, working, and treating myself that I am damn lucky to get 5 hours of sleep a night...which makes it all worse. I recently had to quit drinking, which had been a real solace to me. But I knew booze was going to make it harder to recover, plus I'm taking strong meds from Dr. Kolb. I do take a nerve pill called Ativan, and I literally could not live without it. Without it, I'd probably be roaming the streets with a sawed off shotgun. Ah, anyway. Ian PS Still working on my reflections about Kolb visit email, for those who'd asked. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > > bothering my > > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > > about > > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > > to be > > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > > couldn't > > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > > ears, > > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > > through it > > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > > and > > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > > http://ca.toolbar.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I get it, Jay, I abuse sleep, as in I don't do it till I finally cannot function at all. I should have already had my Bobby Bath (the first) and gone to bed, but I tend to procrastinate anyway, especially something new. Glad tomorrow is Sun and not MON!! katie > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > > bothering my > > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > > about > > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > > to be > > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > > couldn't > > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > > ears, > > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > > through it > > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > > and > > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > > http://ca.toolbar.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hi Ian Mollified with ointment is the recommended path for sores.....says God The Lord is the one that heals, look at the verse their sores were purifying and they used no balm. The Lord is the balm, …….and balm is balm. Apply it What does the Lord require of the but to walk humbly , love mercy and do justly Isaiah 1:6 From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and purifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment. (KJV WBS) Mollified with ointment is the recommended path for sores God here in this verse is talking about our spiritual situation. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; He will cause you to grow as we follow Him Otherwise if we keep turning aside he has to keep dragging us back to the fold, this is called "a drag" (not a LOL’s). It is easier to do things right and get a reward. God knows best, He is our Father Many are the afflictions of the righteous but the Lord delivers them of them all This is a bug, you can kill it. Look at Frito she used 16 oz peroxide $1.002 tablespoons borax ..09 cents 32 oz water ..free She poured it on top of head to toe for 30 days, her sores cured up Praise God ! I did it for 19 days, it kills it, the deep ones try to comeback, I soak them out with a borax 30 min baths with 2 cups borax per tub and 2 cups of Epsom and a few squirts of Dawn dish soap so the don’t re-attach , and then a bandage afterward soaked in borax on the bad area . It is a bug it will die. After a while ( 1 week maybe) Epsom will soak out this bug, if done daily. The peroxide mix makes 48 oz of liquid, it also leaves a faint borax residue, great for baby mites to choke on. Once the bug is off the skin they do not get back on as easy. And, if the area the gets reinfected apply some mix to the area, and then the bug cannot take hold. Look at Besse ,almost totally cured Holly Rita and so many others. The cure is in God , He will show you, ask Him and seek Him, I am right here with you brother, My life is a nightmare because of this attraction this bug has towards me. I get free for 1-2 weeks then I visit somewhere, I pick up a few and they try to multiply. No way. right to the shower, clothes in the boiling pot, selsun blue shampoo on for 2 mins, then a little peroxide mix. ( 10 percent sulfur works also and is less toxic, but still needs a little boost with the peroxide mix applied to the bad areas) Ps the peroxide mix is neutralized by the borax to the strength of water , sort of, but the peroxide causes penetration deep into the skin with the borax . Nothing lives in borax. Then maybe the ESP botanicals will work great, I have not tried it. God is good he will help, Pray for me please, Ian Thanks ,,Bill ps let me know how you are doing bye From: Ian <tenchantre@...>Subject: Re: When I die...bird mites Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 1:04 AM I've been depressed all my life (with good reason) but none of those cares really compare to this. Those problems were solvable; I just had to get out of my sh*t and do the work to fix them. Yeah, I've had some horrible expriences and unbelievable problems -- but this dwarfs them all. The depression is stunning and incredible much of the time. All I can do in empathize. I'd like to live the life I want right now, but I spend so much time cleaning, taking care of parents, working, and treating myself that I am damn lucky to get 5 hours of sleep a night...which makes it all worse.I recently had to quit drinking, which had been a real solace to me. But I knew booze was going to make it harder to recover, plus I'm taking strong meds from Dr. Kolb. I do take a nerve pill called Ativan, and I literally could not live without it. Without it, I'd probably be roaming the streets with a sawed off shotgun. Ah, anyway. IanPS Still working on my reflections about Kolb visit email, for those who'd asked.> > > >> > > >> > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me,> > bothering my> > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking> > about> > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer> > to be> > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and> > couldn't> > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my> > ears,> > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go> > through it> > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died> > and> > > > gone to hell... > > > >> > > > PS sorry for miserable post!> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now> > http://ca.toolbar. .> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 I have the bad days too, where I want to just give up and die. I think about easy ways like pills or heroin. But I can't give in, I can't do that. I have to keep going and hope to get free of the devils. Plus there is so much still to life. I can still see a pretty sunset or sunrise, enjoy a good meal. I have all my arms and legs, fingers and toes, and brain, though it may be fogged somewhat at times. My legs may have an itchy painful bites, but I can still walk around. Remember to count your blessings. I love going to the gym to soak in the jacuzzi, steam and swim laps. It seems to help with the mites. At least while under water I don't have sensations of them on me. When I put Sulfur8 on my head at nite to stop the crawling, it reminds me of the 23rd Psalm. " You annoint my head with oil... " though I'm sure its not meant to be taken literally. God has a plan. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Ask yourself, what does God want me to learn from this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > > > bothering my > > > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > > > about > > > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > > > to be > > > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > > > couldn't > > > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > > > ears, > > > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > > > through it > > > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > > > and > > > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > > > http://ca.toolbar. . > > > > > > >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hi Sfcrawler the cat can be helped .... Is bleach bad for cats ? what about peroxide and borax , it is neutralized by the borax in the peroxide and water, so it does not burn This flea story might help a cat with the “bugâ€â€ My friend in Florida had fleas so bad the couldn’t be eradicated with 8 months of Zodiac flea bombs, luckily my friend went to a good Vet the told her the bombs will not work, only borax spread all over the house like a snow storm, in and under everything, the left for 5 days , vacuumed up and reapplied in 14 days. After 5 days all the fleas were gone, the vacuumed up and never saw another flea, and never had to reapply the snow storm of borax. The cat was washed in bleach water a few times. 1 cup per tub. The cat is fine Maybe the dog mange treatment will help your kitty, The mix 16 oz peroxide 2 tblspns Borax 32 oz water it worked for me. Here is an excerpt “ …..YEA] 04/20/2009: Tracey D from Clinton, MS writes: "I have read just about all the posts here. I too, was much like many of you in that I wanted to help my animal. Max, our mixed shepard/rottie was an animal rescue. We have had him for 4 years and he had been an inside dog for the most part(except to go outside to potty). Recently we moved to a much smaller place. He started displaying behaviors that were not good. I thought that maybe he was unhappy with the new place and would be much happier out in the country where he could run. My parents live on 10 acres and were willing to take him in, but he would be an outside dog.He had been out there at least two week when I noticed his head. At first I thought that he had simply scraped the top of his head. I could smell that it was some sort of infection. So I started putting Ivarest on it. Well the next day my mother called me and told me that it was looking worse. So I went back out there the following day (2 hours round trip)to look at it again. I took good notes as to the way it looked. So I did some research and came up with the diagnosis that it was sarcoptic mange and that stress does not make it better. So I did a search on treatments and found this site. I have heard about the burned oil treatment but I also thought about the damage it could to to my pooches internal organs too.(it sounded so wives taleish) It wasn't an option. I gathered up all the materials I needed(the lady at the store looked at me like I had the some infectious disease, because I bought all the Hydrogen Peroxide that they had on the shelf). I have to mix at least a 1/2 gallon to make sure he is throughly soaked. The first week it looked awful,the top of his head and his snout and a couple of spots on his check were raw and crusty. (I have only been treating him once a week)Not that I recommend anyone do this but I did and it helped him. I gave him one prednisone for 5 days (my dad gave it to him in a piece of ice cream sandwich, that way he doesn't stop to smell the meds.He just inhales the ice cream, meds and all. If he had stopped to chew it, he would find the pill and spit it out). After that week was up, I went back out for the second treatment. Same mixture that the Doc prescribes(1-3-2), except now he gets a benadryl every other day to keep him from knawing. I am now on about the 4th week of treatment, once a week, and there are no new raw spots and his hair is trying to sprout back out in some places. He never went completely bald in any of his spots. I took before pictures and I will take after pictures when he is completely cured. "We" plan on bringing him back home when I know he is free and clear. (We have a cat at home and I do not want to go through this again)But once Max is better I will email pictures.)It just isn't worth it to me to leave him in the country anymore. He doesn't seem happy around other dogs, he is a people person kind of dog.I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for creating this site. Otherwise I would not have known what to do because currently we do not have the money for those expensive vet visits. It is reasonably priced and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get them better." www .earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure. html Ps this lady had a bug bite and her dog, she believed it all to be a fungus and treated as it This is a copy of her info on her treatment. Chelz said anyone is welcome to contact her for help From: "m m" <consumer4xyz@...> She writes : I had lots of bites near my ankles, I didn't itch much BUT you may have an allergic reaction to this fungus. So you are getting a different or more intense symptom. Yes, my best friend had the same thing as i did, crawling bite marks but no major itching. The Dogs itched, we saw no bite marks, and we had them on some major poisons too for all parasites and it didn't help. The diet helped the dogs. and we are giving them fish oil and probiotics. One dog is cure and the other is mostly cured, I think he is dealing with another kind of allergy. C Another letter I applied Athletes Foot Cream 2 times a day (generic brand of athlete’s >foot >cream Clotrimazole 1%) applying it all over my body for for 45 days. I >then started using 1/2 lotion and 1/2 anti fungal cream for another 45 >days, >and then I stopped completely. > >I applied a clear liquid anti-fungal for my scalp, ears and nose for the >entire 3 months, 2 times a day. > >I take a short shower using the Nizoral Shampoo with 1% ketoconazole in it, >I use it daily as a shampoo and body soap. > >I found the book, “Complete Candida Yeast Guidebook by Jeanne Marie †>to be the key to my recovery, you have to buy this book, it has very good >recipes, and it explains how to follow the anti fungal diet clear and >concisely. I am still on this diet and plan to be on it until Dec. My >dog >is also on the “diet †and he is also cured. > >I used a colon cleaning kit that had Bentonite clay, syllium seed husks in >it, it said to mix with juice but I just used water and I took it for 30 >days with a Probiotic. > >I am still taking a Probiotic, but take note do not buy or use a Probiotic >that has Enterococcus faecalis, Enterococcus faecium or Streptococcus >faecalis in it, this is considered a health hazard in many countries >except >ours. Look at your pets food, you will even find it in dog food. Avoid >all >products with this ingredient. > >I am taking some herbs befor bed: Pao d arco, Garlic (4 pills with MSM in >it), Vit C, Fish Oil, and some others that are anti fungal. I am just here is her link on topix forum: She helped me a lot. I never ued diet thougjh www .topix. com/member/profile/october06 .. God bless you , Bill From: sfcrawler <twistedtb@...>Subject: Re: When I die...bird mites Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 10:55 PM I have the bad days too, where I want to just give up and die. I think about easy ways like pills or heroin.But I can't give in, I can't do that. I have to keep going and hope to get free of the devils.Plus there is so much still to life. I can still see a pretty sunset or sunrise, enjoy a good meal.I have all my arms and legs, fingers and toes, and brain, though it may be fogged somewhat at times. My legs may have an itchy painful bites, but I can still walk around. Remember to count your blessings.I love going to the gym to soak in the jacuzzi, steam and swim laps. It seems to help with the mites. At least while under water I don't have sensations of them on me.When I put Sulfur8 on my head at nite to stop the crawling, it reminds me of the 23rd Psalm. "You annoint my head with oil..." though I'm sure its not meant to be taken literally.God has a plan. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Ask yourself, what does God want me to learn from this?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me,> > > bothering my> > > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking> > > about> > > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer> > > to be> > > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and> > > couldn't> > > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my> > > ears,> > > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go> > > through it> > > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died> > > and> > > > > gone to hell... > > > > >> > > > > PS sorry for miserable post!> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now> > > http://ca.toolbar. .> > >> >> >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hi Bill sfcrawler,I don't think I would use borax on or around cats. It's fine to use on or around dogs.... But Borax or any type of Borates can kill a cat. Cats are groomers and can possibly poison themselves. Our Vet told us this last year so we didn't use Borax anywhere that the cats had access. TrlySent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: Doe Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:16:56 -0700 (PDT)<bird mites >Subject: Re: Re: When I die... Hi Sfcrawler the cat can be helped .... Is bleach bad for cats ? what about peroxide and borax , it is neutralized by the borax in the peroxide and water, so it does not burn This flea story might help a cat with the “bugâ€â€ My friend in Florida had fleas so bad the couldn’t be eradicated with 8 months of Zodiac flea bombs, luckily my friend went to a good Vet the told her the bombs will not work, only borax spread all over the house like a snow storm, in and under everything, the left for 5 days , vacuumed up and reapplied in 14 days. After 5 days all the fleas were gone, the vacuumed up and never saw another flea, and never had to reapply the snow storm of borax. The cat was washed in bleach water a few times. 1 cup per tub. The cat is fine Maybe the dog mange treatment will help your kitty, The mix 16 oz peroxide2 tblspns Borax32 oz water it worked for me. Here is an excerpt “ …..YEA] 04/20/2009: Tracey D from Clinton, MS writes: "I have read just about all the posts here. I too, was much like many of you in that I wanted to help my animal. Max, our mixed shepard/rottie was an animal rescue. We have had him for 4 years and he had been an inside dog for the most part(except to go outside to potty). Recently we moved to a much smaller place. He started displaying behaviors that were not good. I thought that maybe he was unhappy with the new place and would be much happier out in the country where he could run. My parents live on 10 acres and were willing to take him in, but he would be an outside dog.He had been out there at least two week when I noticed his head. At first I thought that he had simply scraped the top of his head. I could smell that it was some sort of infection. So I started putting Ivarest on it. Well the next day my mother called me and told me that it was looking worse. So I went back out there the following day (2 hours round trip)to look at it again. I took good notes as to the way it looked. So I did some research and came up with the diagnosis that it was sarcoptic mange and that stress does not make it better. So I did a search on treatments and found this site. I have heard about the burned oil treatment but I also thought about the damage it could to to my pooches internal organs too.(it sounded so wives taleish) It wasn't an option. I gathered up all the materials I needed(the lady at the store looked at me like I had the some infectious disease, because I bought all the Hydrogen Peroxide that they had on the shelf). I have to mix at least a 1/2 gallon to make sure he is throughly soaked. The first week it looked awful,the top of his head and his snout and a couple of spots on his check were raw and crusty. (I have only been treating him once a week)Not that I recommend anyone do this but I did and it helped him. I gave him one prednisone for 5 days (my dad gave it to him in a piece of ice cream sandwich, that way he doesn't stop to smell the meds.He just inhales the ice cream, meds and all. If he had stopped to chew it, he would find the pill and spit it out). After that week was up, I went back out for the second treatment. Same mixture that the Doc prescribes(1-3-2), except now he gets a benadryl every other day to keep him from knawing. I am now on about the 4th week of treatment, once a week, and there are no new raw spots and his hair is trying to sprout back out in some places. He never went completely bald in any of his spots. I took before pictures and I will take after pictures when he is completely cured. "We" plan on bringing him back home when I know he is free and clear. (We have a cat at home and I do not want to go through this again)But once Max is better I will email pictures.)It just isn't worth it to me to leave him in the country anymore. He doesn't seem happy around other dogs, he is a people person kind of dog.I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for creating this site. Otherwise I would not have known what to do because currently we do not have the money for those expensive vet visits. It is reasonably priced and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to get them better." www .earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure. html Ps this lady had a bug bite and her dog, she believed it all to be a fungus and treated as it This is a copy of her info on her treatment. Chelz said anyone is welcome to contact her for help From: "m m" <consumer4xyzhotmail> She writes : I had lots of bites near my ankles, I didn't itch much BUT you may have an allergic reaction to this fungus. So you are getting a different or more intense symptom.Yes, my best friend had the same thing as i did, crawling bite marks but no major itching.The Dogs itched, we saw no bite marks, and we had them on some major poisons too for all parasites and it didn't help. The diet helped the dogs. and we are giving them fish oil and probiotics.One dog is cure and the other is mostly cured, I think he is dealing with another kind of allergy.C Another letter I applied Athletes Foot Cream 2 times a day (generic brand of athlete’s >foot>cream Clotrimazole 1%) applying it all over my body for for 45 days. I>then started using 1/2 lotion and 1/2 anti fungal cream for another 45 >days,>and then I stopped completely.>>I applied a clear liquid anti-fungal for my scalp, ears and nose for the>entire 3 months, 2 times a day.>>I take a short shower using the Nizoral Shampoo with 1% ketoconazole in it,>I use it daily as a shampoo and body soap.>>I found the book, “Complete Candida Yeast Guidebook by Jeanne Marie â€>to be the key to my recovery, you have to buy this book, it has very good>recipes, and it explains how to follow the anti fungal diet clear and>concisely. I am still on this diet and plan to be on it until Dec. My >dog>is also on the “diet †and he is also cured.>>I used a colon cleaning kit that had Bentonite clay, syllium seed husks in>it, it said to mix with juice but I just used water and I took it for 30>days with a Probiotic.>>I am still taking a Probiotic, but take note do not buy or use a Probiotic>that has Enterococcus faecalis, Enterococcus faecium or Streptococcus>faecalis in it, this is considered a health hazard in many countries >except>ours. Look at your pets food, you will even find it in dog food. Avoid >all>products with this ingredient.>>I am taking some herbs befor bed: Pao d arco, Garlic (4 pills with MSM in>it), Vit C, Fish Oil, and some others that are anti fungal. I am just here is her link on topix forum: She helped me a lot. I never ued diet thougjh www .topix. com/member/profile/october06. God bless you , BillFrom: sfcrawler <twistedtbaol>Subject: Re: When I die...bird mites Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 10:55 PMI have the bad days too, where I want to just give up and die. I think about easy ways like pills or heroin.But I can't give in, I can't do that. I have to keep going and hope to get free of the devils.Plus there is so much still to life. I can still see a pretty sunset or sunrise, enjoy a good meal.I have all my arms and legs, fingers and toes, and brain, though it may be fogged somewhat at times. My legs may have an itchy painful bites, but I can still walk around. Remember to count your blessings.I love going to the gym to soak in the jacuzzi, steam and swim laps. It seems to help with the mites. At least while under water I don't have sensations of them on me.When I put Sulfur8 on my head at nite to stop the crawling, it reminds me of the 23rd Psalm. "You annoint my head with oil..." though I'm sure its not meant to be taken literally.God has a plan. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Ask yourself, what does God want me to learn from this?> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me,> > > bothering my> > > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking> > > about> > > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer> > > to be> > > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and> > > couldn't> > > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my> > > ears,> > > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go> > > through it> > > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died> > > and> > > > > gone to hell... > > > > >> > > > > PS sorry for miserable post!> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________> > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. 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Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I've actually had Borax on the carpet since things got real bad in January. Doesn't seem to be bothering the cat, and stopped the bugs that were biting my feet and ankles from the floor. I just need to clear the ones that have infested me and the cat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me, > > > > bothering my > > > > > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking > > > > about > > > > > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer > > > > to be > > > > > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and > > > > couldn't > > > > > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my > > > > ears, > > > > > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go > > > > through it > > > > > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died > > > > and > > > > > > gone to hell... > > > > > > > > > > > > PS sorry for miserable post! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > > > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now > > > > http://ca.toolbar. . > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Thanks Holly. You have been very helpful to me From: Holly <hollyjane11@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 4:37:51 PMSubject: Re: When I die.... No you dont sound psycho. The depression that accompanies this is unreal. The reality of the world we live in is ugly. It seems to be amplified by 1000 with this affliction. I dont think any of us will ever be the same. I am choosing to do something positive with this experience. I will forever help as many people as i can with this affliction. I havent worked it all out yet, but when i dont have to focus so much on getting rid of mites i have a project that i will be starting.Jay, you have helped me so much. It hurts me to see you feeling sad and unloved. Please dont lose hope. You have my email if you need to talk im all ears.Love and LuckHolly> > >> > >> > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me,> bothering my> > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking> about> > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer> to be> > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and> couldn't> > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my> ears,> > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go> through it> > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died> and> > > gone to hell... > > >> > > PS sorry for miserable post!> > >> >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now> http://ca.toolbar. .> Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Thanks for the encouragement . You bring up very good points. From: sarah3dw <nuthatch_mins@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 7:21:46 PMSubject: Re: When I die... Dear JS, very sad that you feel that way, but I know what you mean as Ioften do too. I feel very grateful to have the few people I am closestto, and wouldn't want to make them suffer more. I 've been through somevery hard things before, but now that every moment is torment (somedays) I wish I'd known how lucky I was before. I look at people in thestreet and think with amazement that they don't have mites and all thehassle that brings. What it would be like to live an ordinary life evenwith all my other problems! What keeps me going is (1) my belovedfamily, (2) the knowledge that everything always changes, everythingpasses, everything comes to end (not just life, but problems do tooeventually) and there are always new beginnings, new hope (this is frommy past experience), and (3) to my surprise, this group, and knowingthat you and all the other people in the group are out there and somehowwith me in this battle. Don't give up. > > >> > >> > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me,> bothering my> > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking> about> > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer> to be> > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and> couldn't> > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my> ears,> > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go> through it> > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died> and> > > gone to hell... > > >> > > PS sorry for miserable post!> > >> >>>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmarkyour favourite sites. Download it now> http://ca.toolbar. .> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Thanks for your reply Bessie. People like you here are very caring and helpful. From: Bessie Glavas <bessieglavas@...>bird mites Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 4:07:13 PMSubject: Re: When I die... JS -Many of us feel that way, though most of us don't talk about it openly on public forums.(Have had lots of phone conversations about this). My 61st birthday is in 2 weeks, and I feel fortunate that the stuff hit the fan after I'd had something of a life. I feel TERRIBLE for the young people; I can barely think about how unfair this is to them.I'm ready to go at a moment's notice - all packed and set to go. I can't imagine anything for the remainder of my life except trying to avoid "relapse". But as you say, I think about my family and friends, and so wait "my turn".Bessie> > >> > >> > > I have had a very itchy miserable few days. Bugs eating me,> bothering my> > > skin, going in and out of my ears, nose, eyes etc. Just thinking> about> > > it... sometime ago I told my family that when I die I would prefer> to be> > > cremated. The reason is because I am phobic about insects and> couldn't> > > bear the thought of them all over my body, going in and out of my> ears,> > > nose, eyes etc. So someone (God, nature?) decided I should go> through it> > > while still alive instead. Sometimes I do feel I have already died> and> > > gone to hell... > > >> > > PS sorry for miserable post!> > >> >> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now> http://ca.toolbar. .> The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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