Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are irrelevant to someone at my level of reactivity. Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all doctors refused to research. And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that Moldies are treated with abuse similar to CFS. Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that they cannot understand what is being described. I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain climbing, but when I get back, I'll be in touch. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 Have fun raising your VEGF!! -- In , " erikmoldwarrior " <erikmoldwarrior@e...> wrote: > > > Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are irrelevant > to someone at my level of reactivity. > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all doctors > refused to research. > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that Moldies > are treated with abuse similar to CFS. > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that they > cannot understand what is being described. > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain climbing, > but when I get back, I'll be in touch. > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 Hi , I hope you have a really great climb! I paused in our Trader Joe's tonight, while reading the label of the coffee offered for tasting. It is grown at 5,200 ft. in Papua, New Guinea. I know nothing of the country or environment, but I had a wonderful wondering what it feels like up there...if as fresh and pristine as my fantasy would like! Due to my current treatment and management, I have " windows " of healing/well being enough to actually return some small hope of someday again transporting myself to such an environment...for further healing and Joy. I am not familiar enough with this group to know the specifics you are referring to. But am, as you know, completely used to lists which include mild, moderate, severe sufferers, and corresponding theories and solutions that often mix apples and oranges! So, anyway, do you have opinion or knowledge of any relationship between dust and mold? Thanks, Katrina --- In , " erikmoldwarrior " <erikmoldwarrior@e...> wrote: > > > Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are irrelevant > to someone at my level of reactivity. > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all doctors > refused to research. > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that Moldies > are treated with abuse similar to CFS. > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that they > cannot understand what is being described. > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain climbing, > but when I get back, I'll be in touch. > - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 pardon my ignorance (or memory lapse), but what is VEGF? Katrina > > > > > > Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are irrelevant > > to someone at my level of reactivity. > > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all doctors > > refused to research. > > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that Moldies > > are treated with abuse similar to CFS. > > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that they > > cannot understand what is being described. > > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain > climbing, > > but when I get back, I'll be in touch. > > - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 Vasoendothelial growth factor. > > > > > > > > > Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are irrelevant > > > to someone at my level of reactivity. > > > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all doctors > > > refused to research. > > > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that Moldies > > > are treated with abuse similar to CFS. > > > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that they > > > cannot understand what is being described. > > > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain > > climbing, > > > but when I get back, I'll be in touch. > > > - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2005 Report Share Posted October 8, 2005 >>>> But, the duct work and HVAC (the dust samples) came back around 50% mold.<<<< wow, thank you, . I just made up the question, because it recently popped into my mind. Both dust and mold have become more concerning to me... not only because of my serious health matters. I have always been pretty good at avoiding both. But A) Both are more prevalent many places While I have been sick, and broke, my apt (new when I moved in), has become more cluttered and, furnishings older, and I wonder what's going on in the walls. & now,cannot get new filters for air cleaner. C) Not to mention which, of course there is more gunk of all types everywhere, in air and dirt. Thanks for the info! Katrina -- In , " " <eaglestone@w...> wrote: > > I would like to just put a quick comment in here on this dust and mold > subject. 2 weeks ago I had to pull the kids out of school as they were both > getting sick. But, only at school. As many of you know we went thru this > last year with our portable. > The district agreed to get the school tested, as my daughters 504 states, > she must attend a mold free environment. > The district allowed me to talk to the company that would be doing the > testing. To make sure it was done properly. I had only asked for the kids > 2 rooms to be tested. While talking to the inspector, and after talking to > KC and Sharon, I asked that they take lifts out of the ducts and HVAC unit. > To our surprise, no alarming #'s of mold found in the classrooms. But, the > duct work and HVAC (the dust samples) came back around 50% mold. > So, everytime that HVAC would come on they would get a face full of it. > Now had we just did air samples in the rooms, we would not know that the > HVAC was loaded with it, making the kids sick. > Just thought I'd share that with all of you. > I'll also add, that last year I requested a test in the new part of the > school that runs on a separate unit, and is separate from the old part of > the school. It was clear. So the district will be bringing in a tutor for > the kids starting Monday morning, and they can get back to school. Then > after the old part of the school is cleaned they will return to their normal > routine, after we get clearance testing and it is negative. > > [] Re: Mold & Dust? > > > > > >> > >> > >> Hi , > >> > >> I hope you have a really great climb! > >> > >> I paused in our Trader Joe's tonight, while reading the label of the > >> coffee offered for tasting. It is grown at 5,200 ft. in Papua, New > >> Guinea. > >> I know nothing of the country or environment, but I had a wonderful > >> wondering what it feels like up there...if as fresh and pristine as my > >> fantasy would like! > >> > >> Due to my current treatment and management, I have " windows " of > >> healing/well being enough to actually return some small hope of someday > >> again transporting myself to such an environment...for further healing > >> and > >> Joy. > >> > >> I am not familiar enough with this group to know the specifics you are > >> referring to. But am, as you know, completely used to lists which include > >> mild, moderate, severe sufferers, and corresponding theories and > >> solutions that often mix apples and oranges! > >> > >> So, anyway, do you have opinion or knowledge of any relationship between > >> dust and mold? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Katrina > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are irrelevant > >>> to someone at my level of reactivity. > >>> Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all doctors > >>> refused to research. > >>> And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that Moldies > >>> are treated with abuse similar to CFS. > >>> Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that they > >>> cannot understand what is being described. > >>> I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain climbing, > >>> but when I get back, I'll be in touch. > >>> - > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> FAIR USE NOTICE: > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Mine will spike dangerously high after exposure, runs very low normally. -- In , " " <toria@b...> wrote: > > question, gang: has anybody else's BP been DANGEROUSLY low after exposure? > my BP dropped to the 60/40 level just after onset. > > take care, all....... & BE WELL! > victoria > > [] Re: Mold & Dust? > > > > Vasoendothelial growth factor. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are > > irrelevant > >> > > to someone at my level of reactivity. > >> > > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all > > doctors > >> > > refused to research. > >> > > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that > > Moldies > >> > > are treated with abuse similar to CFS. > >> > > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that > > they > >> > > cannot understand what is being described. > >> > > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain > >> > climbing, > >> > > but when I get back, I'll be in touch. > >> > > - > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Yes , my BP dropped to a low level and my doctor pulled me out of work after I passed out. I had rapid heart rate and broke out in a drenching sweat and plop...landed right on the floor. Take care, SW > > question, gang: has anybody else's BP been DANGEROUSLY low after exposure? > my BP dropped to the 60/40 level just after onset. > > take care, all....... & BE WELL! > victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Yep- sounds like mine. I used to get 80/50 regularly, dizzy, tired, couldn't move off the couch, but once in a while it would get as low as yours. I used to drive over to my Chinese Acupuncturist when it happened, she could get me adjusted, not to normal, which is where I am now, but better. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are > > irrelevant > >> > > to someone at my level of reactivity. > >> > > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all > > doctors > >> > > refused to research. > >> > > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that > > Moldies > >> > > are treated with abuse similar to CFS. > >> > > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that > > they > >> > > cannot understand what is being described. > >> > > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain > >> > climbing, > >> > > but when I get back, I'll be in touch. > >> > > - > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Sue, What was the REAL problem, what caused your symptoms, what did they tell you? My doc said mine was low potassium but now that my K level is up, I am still having problems with BP ( it is lower), chest pain and tender belly but my IBS has disappeared totally (thank GOD). lately I am having a really hard time breathing and I am 5 weeks out of the work place that made me sick. My lungs feel like they are filling up and my cough is getting worse not better. Strange as it sounds, I can breathe in but breathing out causes a coughing fit. I sound like I'm choking to death if I have to laugh. I am still waiting for test results of upper GI and chest X-rays that I had last week. The Nystatin liquid that he prescribed did clear up my canadida oral yeast infection (thank GOD again). I haven't had any heart tests. The doc told me I had hypertension? The only person taking this seriously is the guy " Steve " at dept of Health and Labour, Steve is arranging for the tests at my work place by the government. Thanks, SW > Yes , my BP dropped to a low level and my doctor pulled me out > of work after I passed out. I had rapid heart rate and broke out in a > drenching sweat and plop...landed right on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 Sue, I guess what I meant was How did the toxic mold cause these symptoms? What organs did they affect? The Heart? Liver? Kidney? What organ(s) was affected by toxins that causes your heart to race and BP to go so low? I do plan on taking the VCS test but $$$ is tight right now (I'm a single parent) SW > > , > I was exposed to toxic mold in my school and was sick all the time. Any > easy way to find out if you have a toxic illness is go to > _www.chronicneurotoxins.com_ (http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com) and take the VCS test. It is > only $8.95 and 98% accurate!!! > > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Mycotoxins, due to their unique molecular structure, can go through things easily, like radiation. People can become very sick with no spores in the house, the wall being sealed, with the mycotoxins coming through all the same > > SOMEBODY TOLD ME THAT MYCOTOXINS " RIDE " ON DUST......MAKES SENSE TO ME. > VICTORIA > > [] Re: Mold & Dust? > > > > > > > > Hi , > > > > I hope you have a really great climb! > > > > I paused in our Trader Joe's tonight, while reading the label of the > > coffee offered for tasting. It is grown at 5,200 ft. in Papua, New Guinea. > > I know nothing of the country or environment, but I had a wonderful > > wondering what it feels like up there...if as fresh and pristine as my > > fantasy would like! > > > > Due to my current treatment and management, I have " windows " of > > healing/well being enough to actually return some small hope of someday > > again transporting myself to such an environment...for further healing and > > Joy. > > > > I am not familiar enough with this group to know the specifics you are > > referring to. But am, as you know, completely used to lists which include > > mild, moderate, severe sufferers, and corresponding theories and > > solutions that often mix apples and oranges! > > > > So, anyway, do you have opinion or knowledge of any relationship between > > dust and mold? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Katrina > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are irrelevant > >> to someone at my level of reactivity. > >> Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all doctors > >> refused to research. > >> And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that Moldies > >> are treated with abuse similar to CFS. > >> Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that they > >> cannot understand what is being described. > >> I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain climbing, > >> but when I get back, I'll be in touch. > >> - > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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