Feeling discouraged

[Guest guest]

Gail,

Oh my heart is breaking for you! Not because I feel that you are a hopeless

case, no, quite the contrary. It is because I can relate so totally to your

feelings. You are such a wonderful person. We have all come to care for you

and enjoy your post so very much. Please do not give up. I know that you

will see results, but I need a little more info in order to help you out.

What meds are you on? Are you eating enough throughout the day? How much do

you feel you need to lose? These are all very important things to consider.

Also, it was much further into my recovery and healing than a month, before I

was healthy enough for my body to allow the release of the fat. So much more

is going on in our bodies, than we realize. It is imperative that our health

be maximized first, before we can look at the other issues, such as inch

loss. That is not to say that you won't receive your inch loss, no, not at

all. You will, but we must help you take care of other things first.

Let me ask you, are you using any visual techniques? If not, may I recommend

that you do. Try this simple exercise before falling asleep tonight.

Picture yourself in a very secure and happy place. Somewhere that makes you

feel happy and free. For me, that is the walking along the beach, near the

immense, blue ocean. Now, see yourself healthy, strong, and lean. See every

inch of you, the way you would like to look. Don't skip the details. Build

your body in your mind, exactly as you would have it to be. Include your

hair, face and nails, everything. See it over and over again, until it is

perfected, or you fall asleep. Then, first thing in the morning, as soon as

your eyes awake, see it again. Day dream of your body's beauty extensively.

Take at least 10 minutes to do this, really allowing your mind to take hold

of what your heart has created. Do this through out the day, whenever you

have a chance, even if it's only for a second. If you start to doubt this

vision you have created, smash those doubts immediately! There isn't enough

room or energy in your body to house such conflicting thoughts. You are

thin, you are beautiful, you never have to settle for less than what your

heart truly desires. The thin person, is just waiting for permission and a

blue print, in order to allow it to emerge! I know you will be able to do

this, because you are worthy to attain all of your dreams.

Rest well, dear Gail, and remember, you are the best Gail W there will ever

be!

Sincerely,

Tami

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

We all get discouraged with the breathing programs. I started several years ago with BodyFlex. I only started with LifeLift in December of this year. I am sure I would have better results if I were more consistent in doing them daily. My problem is having a VCR to workout with. My husband borrowed mine for work last week and the other one is always busy with kid stuff.

Anyway, you should eat in the morning. Don't starve yourself. This might actually be what is causing you to be a slow loser. You don't have to stuff yourself, just eat something, hopefully within an hour of waking up, then wait at least 20 minutes to do your LifeLift. I bet this will boost you right over your slow losing stall. Your body does not like to be starved and will not give up the fat without a fight! In all likelihood, your body will win, so, give in and feed it first thing.

If you have any other ups or downs, please share so we can help or celebrate with you too.

Sincerely,~Karma

feeling discouraged

Hi everyone,I am feeling very discouraged this evening. I have been doing my LLfaithfully in the morning, which means I have to starve for about 3hours before I have 20 minutes to myself. I am drinking my water untilI feel like I am drowning. I am doing as many breaths through out theday as I can, and I am not really getting results. I thought I was atleast tightening in my upper abs until I measured. I have not lostanything since I started LL about a month ago.I am not going to quit because LL have given me more energy, which is avery big deal. One of the symptoms of my connective tissue disease isfatigue, and the LL seems to keep me closer to a normal energy level. Iam still very up and down on the energy, some days I seem to only haveenough energy to see me through until the kids go to bed and other daysI am bouncing off the walls. I am actually afraid to quit doing LL forfear that if I did not do it I would not get out of bed at all on thoselow energy days.Does everyone reach their goal if they stick with it? Or, is it timefor me to just accept the body that God gave me and be grateful that itis not worse. I think I could accept myself more easily if I did nothave a family that places a huge emphasis on physical appearance. Mymother and her side of the family are the worst. It does not matter tothem that I am intelligent, talented and doing my best to be a goodmother and a good person. I'm not even ugly, just chubby. I do have agreat husband who thinks I am the most beautiful woman in the world.After talking to Tami in the chat room last week, I have ordered"Breaking out of Food Jail", and I am hoping to find a way to overcomemy food issues. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest thisevening. I hate to be a downer. So, feel free to just ignore thispost.Thanks,Gail VW

[Guest guest]

Karma,

Thanks for the advise. I have really not been sure what to about

the morning breathing. I may have to re-think that part of things.

I was without my VCR for a while also. It is much easier to follow

Rashelle than to do it alone. Sometimes I put in the video and do

different positions than the ones she is doing, but it still makes it feel

like I am not doing it alone.

Thanks again,

Gail

Karma wrote:

Hi

Gail,We all get discouraged

with the breathing programs. I started several years ago with BodyFlex.

I only started with LifeLift in December of this year. I am sure

I would have better results if I were more consistent in doing them daily.

My problem is having a VCR to workout with. My husband borrowed mine

for work last week and the other one is always busy with kid stuff. Anyway,

you should eat in the morning. Don't starve yourself. This

might actually be what is causing you to be a slow loser. You don't

have to stuff yourself, just eat something, hopefully within an hour of

waking up, then wait at least 20 minutes to do your LifeLift. I bet

this will boost you right over your slow losing stall. Your body

does not like to be starved and will not give up the fat without a fight!

In all likelihood, your body will win, so, give in and feed it first thing. If

you have any other ups or downs, please share so we can help or celebrate

with you too.Sincerely,

~Karma

feeling discouraged

Hi everyone,

I am feeling very discouraged this evening. I have been doing

my LL

faithfully in the morning, which means I have to starve for about

3

hours before I have 20 minutes to myself. I am drinking my

water until

I feel like I am drowning. I am doing as many breaths through

out the

day as I can, and I am not really getting results. I thought

I was at

least tightening in my upper abs until I measured. I have

not lost

anything since I started LL about a month ago.

I am not going to quit because LL have given me more energy, which

is a

very big deal. One of the symptoms of my connective tissue

disease is

fatigue, and the LL seems to keep me closer to a normal energy

level. I

am still very up and down on the energy, some days I seem

to only have

enough energy to see me through until the kids go to bed and other

days

I am bouncing off the walls. I am actually afraid to quit

doing LL for

fear that if I did not do it I would not get out of bed at all

on those

low energy days.

Does everyone reach their goal if they stick with it? Or,

is it time

for me to just accept the body that God gave me and be grateful

that it

is not worse. I think I could accept myself more easily if

I did not

have a family that places a huge emphasis on physical appearance.

My

mother and her side of the family are the worst. It does

not matter to

them that I am intelligent, talented and doing my best to be a

good

mother and a good person. I'm not even ugly, just chubby.

I do have a

great husband who thinks I am the most beautiful woman in the world.

After talking to Tami in the chat room last week, I have ordered

"Breaking out of Food Jail", and I am hoping to find a way to overcome

my food issues. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest

this

evening. I hate to be a downer. So, feel free to just

ignore this

post.

Thanks,

Gail VW

[Guest guest]

I agree about watching the tape with her.

That food issue is a tricky one. I fell for it in the beginning too. I mean that I thought that if I "ate healthier" or didn't eat in the morning then inches would come off even faster! I lost a lot of inches the first week eating total junk food! I mean ice cream, cookies, chips, etc. I was under a lot of stress at work and was eating my way through it. After losing inches eating like that I decided to actually give it a fair chance eating by doing a "diet" at the same time. The next week I lost the exact same amount as the first week only I was really cranky. It went downhill from there because I thought it was my eating that was the problem. I started keeping track of all the non losers and slow losers. They seemed to all have the same thing in common. They were also on some kind of special diet. So, that is when I started eating like my body was used to and started losing inches again. I have slowly turned my eating around to deal with a severe sugar addiction, (talking about eating out of the sugar bowl addiction!) I have gotten through this and am back to eating real food. The inches are coming off again.

One big change that I made was to be sure to eat within one hour of waking up. Don't fall that "diet" mentality, learn from my mistakes. Eat first thing in the morning, unless you are able to immediately get the workout in. You should always eat within an hour of getting up, then Rashelle says to wait at least 20 minutes, then you are good to go on the breathing.

Sincerely,~Karma

Karma, Thanks for the advise. I have really not been sure what to about the morning breathing. I may have to re-think that part of things. I was without my VCR for a while also. It is much easier to follow Rashelle than to do it alone. Sometimes I put in the video and do different positions than the ones she is doing, but it still makes it feel like I am not doing it alone. Thanks again, Gail

[Guest guest]

Karma,

I have never been able to stick to a diet for more than a minute.

However, I know that my eating is not as healthy as it could be, but I

am just not really able to do much about that right now. I am nursing

my twins, which makes me want to eat all of the time. And I am dealing

with a lot of stress right now, which also makes me want to eat all of

the time. I also have a sweet tooth and a husband who likes to bake.

Gail

Karma wrote:

I

agree about watching the tape with her. That

food issue is a tricky one. I fell for it in the beginning too.

I mean that I thought that if I "ate healthier" or didn't eat in the morning

then inches would come off even faster! I lost a lot of inches the

first week eating total junk food! I mean ice cream, cookies, chips,

etc. I was under a lot of stress at work and was eating my way through

it. After losing inches eating like that I decided to actually give

it a fair chance eating by doing a "diet" at the same time. The next

week I lost the exact same amount as the first week only I was really cranky.

It went downhill from there because I thought it was my eating that was

the problem. I started keeping track of all the non losers and slow

losers. They seemed to all have the same thing in common. They

were also on some kind of special diet. So, that is when I started

eating like my body was used to and started losing inches again.

I have slowly turned my eating around to deal with a severe sugar addiction,

(talking about eating out of the sugar bowl addiction!) I have gotten

through this and am back to eating real food. The inches are coming

off again. One big

change that I made was to be sure to eat within one hour of waking up.

Don't fall that "diet" mentality, learn from my mistakes. Eat first

thing in the morning, unless you are able to immediately get the workout

in. You should always eat within an hour of getting up, then Rashelle

says to wait at least 20 minutes, then you are good to go on the breathing.Sincerely,

~Karma

Karma,

Thanks for the advise. I have really not been sure what to about

the morning breathing. I may have to re-think that part of things.

I was without my VCR for a while also. It is much easier to follow

Rashelle than to do it alone. Sometimes I put in the video and do

different positions than the ones she is doing, but it still makes it feel

like I am not doing it alone.

Thanks again,

Gail

[Guest guest]

Gail,

First of all, please don't feel you're being a " downer. " The main reason

we're all here is for support - both to give and receive. We can't all be

successful and happy all the time!

As for feeling discouraged... I think that's normal. We all get

discouraged on our road to fitness, regardless of the path we take. Part

of the problem may be how long you're waiting to eat and do Life Lift.

Your body needs food in the morning to give it fuel and strength and to get

your metabolism started. If it's going to be that long before you can do

Life Lift, try eating a small light breakfast to get yourself going.

In the meantime, try focusing on the good things Life Lift and the water

and so on do for you. Take care.

Kristy

" Beauty is but the spirit breaking through the flesh. "

[Guest guest]

Gail,

I forgot that you were nursing your twins. I also nursed four children, so I do understand your hunger. You need to eat first thing. You also need to make sure you are getting your essential fats. I sent some stuff to the list a while back on UDO's oil. One of the things that was very interesting was that nursing mothers actually give up their good fats to the babies and it comes from your brain! That is why when you are nursing it is sometimes hard to think clearly. You should look into increasing your fat intake with good fats like extra virgin olive oil, macadamia nuts, almonds, or just take the UDO's oil. I think that will help with the hunger also. You should just do the 4 square breathing while nursing. If you don't know what that is, it goes like this. Pick a number, lets say 10 just for kicks. So you would breath in to the count of ten, hold for the count of ten, exhale to the count of ten, hold for the count of ten. It is a square. While you are sitting nursing you can also really contract those abdominal muscles and tighten the tushy muscles. Let the oxygen get rid of the fat for you.

I am dealing with my sugar addiction by following the Zone way of eating. I had to go through "breaking out of food jail" first, but now, I am doing fine with zoning my meals.

~Karma

From: Gail VanWagoner

LifeLiftegroups

Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 12:16 AM

Subject: Re: feeling discouraged

Karma, I have never been able to stick to a diet for more than a minute. However, I know that my eating is not as healthy as it could be, but I am just not really able to do much about that right now. I am nursing my twins, which makes me want to eat all of the time. And I am dealing with a lot of stress right now, which also makes me want to eat all of the time. I also have a sweet tooth and a husband who likes to bake. Gail

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

well, Mamma Rashelle was going to bed, but I saw this message from you and I had to answer you first.

Dear one, I wish that I could wrap my arms around you and bring you here so that I could spend some time working with you.

You have worked so hard and to see you so discouraged makes me feel even more committed to helping you find success.

you asked if everyone who sticks with it reaches their goals. My experience has been that the there are some who struggle in the beginning and we really have to put some thought and work to it, it can be hard when you hear of others who will lose a size in a few days, but you can't give up. If I could take you back into my email and you could read some of the messages from others who had the same struggles in the beginning, then later they are sending the messages like Tami, telling us of daily triumphs. I keep many of the old messages so one the nights like tonight when I am extra tired I can look at the old ones and then the new ones when someone is seeing the success they worked so hard for and this is what keeps me going, like the energizer bunny. But unlike that bunny who is running on batteries, I am running on the knowledge that if we stick this out together we can and will make it work.

Now, what we need to do is this. You email me off the list and I will go through details with you to find out exactly what you are doing daily. How you are eating, how much water you are drinking, how you are doing your Life Lift, (you must be doing something right to have such good energy from it), But we may be able to tweak something you are doing and turn this whole thing around. I am half asleep right now, but that is because I know that if I do this with someone, we will eventually break through and find success.

I have complete faith in you Gail. I will be here to help you and we will make this work. Go to sleep tonight with the expectation that we will find a solution and you will realize your dreams of being healthy, fit and thin.

Take care and get to me tomorrow so we can work on making your dreams reality,

Rashelle

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Hi everyone,I am feeling very discouraged this evening. I have been doing my LLfaithfully in the morning, which means I have to starve for about 3hours before I have 20 minutes to myself. I am drinking my water untilI feel like I am drowning. I am doing as many breaths through out theday as I can, and I am not really getting results. I thought I was atleast tightening in my upper abs until I measured. I have not lostanything since I started LL about a month ago.I am not going to quit because LL have given me more energy, which is avery big deal. One of the symptoms of my connective tissue disease isfatigue, and the LL seems to keep me closer to a normal energy level. Iam still very up and down on the energy, some days I seem to only haveenough energy to see me through until the kids go to bed and other daysI am bouncing off the walls. I am actually afraid to quit doing LL forfear that if I did not do it I would not get out of bed at all on thoselow energy days.Does everyone reach their goal if they stick with it? Or, is it timefor me to just accept the body that God gave me and be grateful that itis not worse. I think I could accept myself more easily if I did nothave a family that places a huge emphasis on physical appearance. Mymother and her side of the family are the worst. It does not matter tothem that I am intelligent, talented and doing my best to be a goodmother and a good person. I'm not even ugly, just chubby. I do have agreat husband who thinks I am the most beautiful woman in the world.Gail VW

[Guest guest]

Gail,

I wanted to add that this message from Kristy is right spot on. What she is saying here is going to make an incredible difference for you.

Thank goodness we have so many here who care and have been through the same things. This is why I love these lists so much.

Kristy, thank you so much for writing this. You are wonderful!

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Gail,First of all, please don't feel you're being a "downer." The main reasonwe're all here is for support - both to give and receive. We can't all besuccessful and happy all the time!As for feeling discouraged... I think that's normal. We all getdiscouraged on our road to fitness, regardless of the path we take. Partof the problem may be how long you're waiting to eat and do Life Lift.Your body needs food in the morning to give it fuel and strength and to getyour metabolism started. If it's going to be that long before you can doLife Lift, try eating a small light breakfast to get yourself going.In the meantime, try focusing on the good things Life Lift and the waterand so on do for you. Take care.Kristy"

[Guest guest]

Hi. Gail. I don't have any advice to offer, just some sympathy. I think

it's a shame about your mom's side of the family. You mentioned having some

kind of connective tissue disease that causes extreme fatigue. Don't they

understand that can affect your metabolism? Maybe you can play that up a

little in hopes it might shut them up.

If they continue to bug you, then just think of them telling you the sky is

green with purple polka dots and ignore them and their words completely.

Don't give their words any power over you. Dismiss them as being just as

ridiculous as if they said the sky is green with purple polka dots.

Dawn G.--Massachusetts

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dusty beach road in the skeleton frames of burned out Chevrolets...

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[Guest guest]

Gail,

I nursed both of by boys for 14 months. What you're doing is REALLY

tough on the body. !My youngest just turned 4, and I'm still working on

reclaiming my body! I'm happy to go off list and " chat " with you any

time. Have to run right now, but feel free to email me directly at

mkfeather@....

Melodie

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:29:34 -0500 " Karma " <tucker@...> writes:

>Gail,

>I forgot that you were nursing your twins. I also nursed four

>children, so I do understand your hunger. You need to eat first

>thing. You also need to make sure you are getting your essential

>fats. I sent some stuff to the list a while back on UDO's oil. One

>of the things that was very interesting was that nursing mothers

>actually give up their good fats to the babies and it comes from your

>brain! That is why when you are nursing it is sometimes hard to think

>clearly. You should look into increasing your fat intake with good

>fats like extra virgin olive oil, macadamia nuts, almonds, or just

>take the UDO's oil. I think that will help with the hunger also.

>You should just do the 4 square breathing while nursing. If you don't

>know what that is, it goes like this. Pick a number, lets say 10 just

>for kicks. So you would breath in to the count of ten, hold for the

>count of ten, exhale to the count of ten, hold for the count of ten.

>It is a square. While you are sitting nursing you can also really

>contract those abdominal muscles and tighten the tushy muscles. Let

>the oxygen get rid of the fat for you.

>

>I am dealing with my sugar addiction by following the Zone way of

>eating. I had to go through " breaking out of food jail " first, but

>now, I am doing fine with zoning my meals.

>~Karma

>

> From: Gail VanWagoner

> LifeLiftegroups

> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 12:16 AM

> Subject: Re: feeling discouraged

>

>

> Karma,

> I have never been able to stick to a diet for more than a minute.

>However, I know that my eating is not as healthy as it could be, but I

>am just not really able to do much about that right now. I am nursing

>my twins, which makes me want to eat all of the time. And I am

>dealing with a lot of stress right now, which also makes me want to

>eat all of the time. I also have a sweet tooth and a husband who

>likes to bake.

>

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Gail, you're not a downer at all. There are a lot of us that are losing

at a very slow rate and I'm one of them. I've been doing it about 2 months

with just a little inch loss. I quit measuring because I would get so

discouraged. I finally came to the realization that I'm not only working on

my outside but my inside as well, and it might take a little while. Also I

don't have that much to lose so I think it will probably take longer. Even

though I'm not measuring I think I am finally seeing a little difference in

my body, but it is a slow process.

Just try to think of all the wonderful things you are doing to your insides.

You're not only strengthening your lungs but all of your organs as well, and

to me that is the most important part.

I also discovered after gaining 7 1/2 lbs in 2 days that there is something

I'm eating that is going against my body. I finally discovered an article

on False Fat that really makes sense to me. There are certain things that

bloat me and cause me to gain weight that isn't fat. I am now watching

those foods very closely and taking enzymes when I do eat them.

Don't beat yourself up too bad, your hubby thinks you're beautiful and so do

all of us and don't forget God thinks you're beautiful too. Hang in there,

we're all her to support you and get you through. You might want to write

Rashelle personally. She is here to help you also and will work with you to

see where the problem lies and help you to reach your goal. After all she is

our " MOM " and cares very deeply about everyone of her children.

Thank you for confinding in us, don't forget to breathe, and remember we

love you!

feeling discouraged

> Hi everyone,

>

> I am feeling very discouraged this evening. I have been doing my LL

> faithfully in the morning, which means I have to starve for about 3

> hours before I have 20 minutes to myself. I am drinking my water until

> I feel like I am drowning. I am doing as many breaths through out the

> day as I can, and I am not really getting results. I thought I was at

> least tightening in my upper abs until I measured. I have not lost

> anything since I started LL about a month ago.

>

> I am not going to quit because LL have given me more energy, which is a

> very big deal. One of the symptoms of my connective tissue disease is

> fatigue, and the LL seems to keep me closer to a normal energy level. I

> am still very up and down on the energy, some days I seem to only have

> enough energy to see me through until the kids go to bed and other days

> I am bouncing off the walls. I am actually afraid to quit doing LL for

> fear that if I did not do it I would not get out of bed at all on those

> low energy days.

>

> Does everyone reach their goal if they stick with it? Or, is it time

> for me to just accept the body that God gave me and be grateful that it

> is not worse. I think I could accept myself more easily if I did not

> have a family that places a huge emphasis on physical appearance. My

> mother and her side of the family are the worst. It does not matter to

> them that I am intelligent, talented and doing my best to be a good

> mother and a good person. I'm not even ugly, just chubby. I do have a

> great husband who thinks I am the most beautiful woman in the world.

>

> After talking to Tami in the chat room last week, I have ordered

> " Breaking out of Food Jail " , and I am hoping to find a way to overcome

> my food issues. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest this

> evening. I hate to be a downer. So, feel free to just ignore this

> post.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Gail VW

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Gail,

Everyone has given you great advice. All I can say is keep trying and

don't give up hope! I know that things will turn around for you. We

are here if you need us.

Michele

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Karma, Tami, Rashelle, Dawn, Melodie, , Kristy and

Michele:

Also thanks to anyone else I have missed. It really means a lot to me

that you all cared enough to respond. I want to let you all know that I

am not giving up. I decided weeks ago that this is it. This is the

last thing I am willing to try. The entire concept of aerobic breathing

makes sense to me.

The best shape I was ever in was when I was single and in my early

twenties. At the time I was spending an hour or more at the gym every

day. I can't do that now. My life is to full. I really want LL to

work for me, and I am willing to do what it takes.

We are taking the kids to Disneyland next week. It will be their spring

break at school. I am trying very hard to get over these feelings of

discouragement before we go. Because if Mom isn't happy then no one is

happy. I think this trip might be part of what has got me down, because

when I started with the BF and then the LL at the end of January I

thought I would be able to buy myself some smaller shorts for the trip.

Well, we leave on Monday and I am not buying anything new. Right now

clothes shopping would not be good for my self image.

By the way Tami, I am on prednisone 7.5 mg. I have e-mailed Rashelle

with all of the info I can think of. So, hopefully she will be able to

figure out what is happening with me. Thank you for your concern.

Once again, THANK YOU EVERYONE

Love,

Gail VW

[Guest guest]

Gail,

You are welcome. I am so glad you are getting to go to Disney World.

How old are all your kids?

I have never been to Disney World, I would like to take my kids, someday, I will be able to.

As for your new clothes. I have had the same problem in the past. My youngest is two and I am still trying to get of the fat from the first one that is 9! I picked up an extra 50 pounds by having 4 kids. I finally came to this conclusion to save my self esteem and not die unhappy! I decided that, my family knows what I look like, they know me for me. They love me for me. All they really want is me happy, they could care less how my body looks, so, I do my darndest to be happy no matter what. I do better some days than others, but overall, I'd say I'm pretty good at being happy. I don't want to die and have my memory in my kids eyes as being a pathetically unhappy woman who never did anything fun with them. That motivates me to be happy most of the time.

I also take the attitude that I have the best husband in the world and he has already seen me naked, so, who else do I have to impress!!! Nobody, that's who. What do I care what other people think of me.... I don't have to impress them, their opinion of me has absolutely no affect on me. My kids love me, my husband loves me. I gave up trying to please my parents long ago and moved on. I am much happier being the me I want to be. The grass wasn't greener on the other side!!!

Just some thoughts. Sorry for rambling. I seem to have been able to relate to this subject.

Sincerely,~Karma

Thank you, Karma, Tami, Rashelle, Dawn, Melodie, , Kristy andMichele:

[Guest guest]

Gail, that is one of the biggest reasons this list is here, to help and encourage each other. Never, ever, feel like you are a downer. You are a" sister LifeLifter" who is special to us all. As for losing slow, honey I wouldn't be scared to say I'm the slowest loser here. I have gone for weeks without a loss, months, and I'm certainly not nursing or even close. Just was blessed with my 5th grandchild, so you know it's been a long time since I've had a baby. 25 years ago actually :-) Some people just lose faster than others. I don't really see a lot of the things going on with me that some of the others say they see, but I figure in time, I will. We're all the same and yet so different. Please rest assured that someone will always be here to support you & help all we can as long as there IS a list.. You have a really safe, blessed and happy, happy trip with your husband and children. God bless you Gail.

{{{HUGS}}}Bonnie

**********************************************With God, ALL things are possible.**********************************************

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

Hang in there!!!!!

I know what you mean about the predisone. I was on it many years ago when I

was very sick before they discovered I had celiac disease(gluten

intolerance).I was taking 12 a day and slowly had to wean off of them. I

gained 15 lbs in a month and my cheeks looked a chipmunks. I hated it. I was

only 16 at the time. What a mess. Once I stopped eating any signs of

gluten(found in wheat, rye, barley and oats) it was like night and day.

Haven't been on any medication since.

Until now I do take a small dose of synthroid for my thyroid. Would like to

stop that too if I could. I hate to take medication. I would rather do it

naturally.

I do feel the predisone has something to do with the inability of losing

weight. Hope Rashelle has more input to help you.

In the mean time keep breathing!!!!!

PAH

Rose

RE: feeling discouraged

> Thank you, Karma, Tami, Rashelle, Dawn, Melodie, , Kristy and

> Michele:

>

> Also thanks to anyone else I have missed. It really means a lot to me

> that you all cared enough to respond. I want to let you all know that I

> am not giving up. I decided weeks ago that this is it. This is the

> last thing I am willing to try. The entire concept of aerobic breathing

> makes sense to me.

>

> The best shape I was ever in was when I was single and in my early

> twenties. At the time I was spending an hour or more at the gym every

> day. I can't do that now. My life is to full. I really want LL to

> work for me, and I am willing to do what it takes.

>

> We are taking the kids to Disneyland next week. It will be their spring

> break at school. I am trying very hard to get over these feelings of

> discouragement before we go. Because if Mom isn't happy then no one is

> happy. I think this trip might be part of what has got me down, because

> when I started with the BF and then the LL at the end of January I

> thought I would be able to buy myself some smaller shorts for the trip.

> Well, we leave on Monday and I am not buying anything new. Right now

> clothes shopping would not be good for my self image.

>

> By the way Tami, I am on prednisone 7.5 mg. I have e-mailed Rashelle

> with all of the info I can think of. So, hopefully she will be able to

> figure out what is happening with me. Thank you for your concern.

>

> Once again, THANK YOU EVERYONE

>

> Love,

> Gail VW

>

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[Guest guest]

Great thoughts!!!Karma

Rose

Re: RE: feeling discouraged

Gail,

You are welcome. I am so glad you are getting to go to Disney World.

How old are all your kids?

I have never been to Disney World, I would like to take my kids, someday, I will be able to.

As for your new clothes. I have had the same problem in the past. My youngest is two and I am still trying to get of the fat from the first one that is 9! I picked up an extra 50 pounds by having 4 kids. I finally came to this conclusion to save my self esteem and not die unhappy! I decided that, my family knows what I look like, they know me for me. They love me for me. All they really want is me happy, they could care less how my body looks, so, I do my darndest to be happy no matter what. I do better some days than others, but overall, I'd say I'm pretty good at being happy. I don't want to die and have my memory in my kids eyes as being a pathetically unhappy woman who never did anything fun with them. That motivates me to be happy most of the time.

I also take the attitude that I have the best husband in the world and he has already seen me naked, so, who else do I have to impress!!! Nobody, that's who. What do I care what other people think of me.... I don't have to impress them, their opinion of me has absolutely no affect on me. My kids love me, my husband loves me. I gave up trying to please my parents long ago and moved on. I am much happier being the me I want to be. The grass wasn't greener on the other side!!!

Just some thoughts. Sorry for rambling. I seem to have been able to relate to this subject.

Sincerely,~Karma

Thank you, Karma, Tami, Rashelle, Dawn, Melodie, , Kristy andMichele:

[Guest guest]

Ann,

I'll be your cheerleader! Sis-Boom-Rah!!!!! Come on Ann, cheer up.

It takes time. You already know that. The leg lifts are wonderful for the

VMO, mine are as strong as ever (it didn't help with the pain, but mine are very

strong)! Of the doctors I've seen they don't wanna help you until your VMO

is strong and everything has been stretched so maybe the next time you see your

doc, you will have the strongest VMOs he has ever seen and he will see that

you are desperately trying to help yourself and he will get off his @ss and try

something new to help you!

Sis-Boom-Rah! We are all going to get better and find some relief!

At least I hope so!

http://plainjai.com/knee

[Guest guest]

Thanks. I'll definitely keep at it since there's at least SOME hope.

Ann

Re: Feeling discouraged

> Ann,

>

> I'll be your cheerleader! Sis-Boom-Rah!!!!! Come on Ann, cheer

up.

> It takes time. You already know that. The leg lifts are wonderful for

the

> VMO, mine are as strong as ever (it didn't help with the pain, but mine

are very

> strong)! Of the doctors I've seen they don't wanna help you until your

VMO

> is strong and everything has been stretched so maybe the next time you see

your

> doc, you will have the strongest VMOs he has ever seen and he will see

that

> you are desperately trying to help yourself and he will get off his @ss

and try

> something new to help you!

>

> Sis-Boom-Rah! We are all going to get better and find some relief!

> At least I hope so!

>

>

> http://plainjai.com/knee

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Ally}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Some

days are harder to get through than others, aren’t they? Keeping you in

the Light.

Nikki

Hi all... I know

I don't post much but really have no where else to post how I am feeling today. I just did my 47th shot.

I should be celebrating with one week to go but I am doing the full 72 weeks so

still have 25 more weeks. Maybe that

doesn't sound like a lot but I'm tired of doing this.

I'm tired of the 3 shots a week. I'm

tired of feeling tired and unmotivated.

I am normally a very, very active person and granted, I am probably doing more

then most on treatment with going to the gym all the time but I still spend the

majority of my time sitting on the couch doing nothing but watching TV. That is SO unlike me but it is becoming all I know. After doing this for nearly a year, I no longer

remember what life was like when I wasn't on treatment and I hate that. I'll be done with all this in August and really, I

guess that isn't too far away but looking out my window right now at all the

snow on the ground, it seems like forever.

I just want to be done with this, I want it all to be over with so I can get on

with my life. I know that I will

start feeling better in the Spring when I get back on my bicycle and get some

sun so I am just holding on for whenever that day comes.

Thanks for listening... Ally

[Guest guest]

(((((Ally))))) I hear you, friend! You are just plain tired of it and can't

wait to feel your

energy and your vibrant nature return. It will, but I am soooo glad in the

meantime you

are here with us. Would love to be able to drop by and make you a cup of gentle

tea, draw

you a warm bath, and just give you a shoulder to lean on. I know you know that

you are

going to make it. And I'm here for you - the spring will come with its singing

birds and

before we know it, you will be celebrating that last week! And in the meantime,

let it rip,

girl. You deserve the best and will get it. We love you.

A great big hug with love & light, karen

>

> Hi all... I know I don't post much but really have no where else to post how

> I am feeling today. I just did my 47th shot. I should be celebrating with

> one week to go but I am doing the full 72 weeks so still have 25 more weeks.

> Maybe that doesn't sound like a lot but I'm tired of doing this. I'm tired

> of the 3 shots a week. I'm tired of feeling tired and unmotivated. I am

> normally a very, very active person and granted, I am probably doing more

> then most on treatment with going to the gym all the time but I still spend

> the majority of my time sitting on the couch doing nothing but watching TV.

> That is SO unlike me but it is becoming all I know. After doing this for

> nearly a year, I no longer remember what life was like when I wasn't on

> treatment and I hate that. I'll be done with all this in August and really,

> I guess that isn't too far away but looking out my window right now at all

> the snow on the ground, it seems like forever. I just want to be done with

> this, I want it all to be over with so I can get on with my life. I know

> that I will start feeling better in the Spring when I get back on my bicycle

> and get some sun so I am just holding on for whenever that day comes.

>

> Thanks for listening... Ally

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Nikki.

On 2/23/07, Nikki Cowan <nikkicowan@...> wrote:

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Ally}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Some days are harder to get through than others, aren't they? Keeping you in the Light.

Nikki

Hi all... I know I don't post much but really have no where else to post how I am feeling today. I just did my 47th shot. I should be celebrating with one week to go but I am doing the full 72 weeks so still have 25 more weeks. Maybe that doesn't sound like a lot but I'm tired of doing this. I'm tired of the 3 shots a week. I'm tired of feeling tired and unmotivated. I am normally a very, very active person and granted, I am probably doing more then most on treatment with going to the gym all the time but I still spend the majority of my time sitting on the couch doing nothing but watching TV. That is SO unlike me but it is becoming all I know. After doing this for nearly a year, I no longer remember what life was like when I wasn't on treatment and I hate that. I'll be done with all this in August and really, I guess that isn't too far away but looking out my window right now at all the snow on the ground, it seems like forever. I just want to be done with this, I want it all to be over with so I can get on with my life. I know that I will start feeling better in the Spring when I get back on my bicycle and get some sun so I am just holding on for whenever that day comes.

Thanks for listening... Ally

[Guest guest]

Thanks , you know... a warm bath does sound good right about now and it does always make me feel better, thanks for the suggestion.

Ally

On 2/23/07, Checkers2001 <simplicity53@...> wrote:

(((((Ally))))) I hear you, friend! You are just plain tired of it and can't wait to feel your energy and your vibrant nature return. It will, but I am soooo glad in the meantime you are here with us. Would love to be able to drop by and make you a cup of gentle tea, draw you a warm bath, and just give you a shoulder to lean on. I know you know that you are going to make it. And I'm here for you - the spring will come with its singing birds and before we know it, you will be celebrating that last week! And in the meantime, let it rip, girl. You deserve the best and will get it. We love you.A great big hug with love & light, karen >> Hi all... I know I don't post much but really have no where else to post how> I am feeling today. I just did my 47th shot. I should be celebrating with> one week to go but I am doing the full 72 weeks so still have 25 more weeks.

> Maybe that doesn't sound like a lot but I'm tired of doing this. I'm tired> of the 3 shots a week. I'm tired of feeling tired and unmotivated. I am> normally a very, very active person and granted, I am probably doing more

> then most on treatment with going to the gym all the time but I still spend> the majority of my time sitting on the couch doing nothing but watching TV.> That is SO unlike me but it is becoming all I know. After doing this for

> nearly a year, I no longer remember what life was like when I wasn't on> treatment and I hate that. I'll be done with all this in August and really,> I guess that isn't too far away but looking out my window right now at all

> the snow on the ground, it seems like forever. I just want to be done with> this, I want it all to be over with so I can get on with my life. I know> that I will start feeling better in the Spring when I get back on my bicycle

> and get some sun so I am just holding on for whenever that day comes.> > Thanks for listening... Ally>

[Guest guest]

Ally,

I know what you mean. I didn't have to treat as long as you, but it

seemed that once I reached the halfway point time slowed

considerably. I was just sick of feeling bad. I finished two weeks

ago and still don't feel normal, yet. I know you are not going to

quit and I know how frustrating it can be, especially as you get

closer to the finish line.

I wanted to let you know that while I was doing treatment your

posts helped me through some difficult times that I had.

This is a hard thing to do but you will get there.

Lee

>

> Hi all... I know I don't post much but really have no where else

to post how

> I am feeling today. I just did my 47th shot. I should be

celebrating with

> one week to go but I am doing the full 72 weeks so still have 25

more weeks.

> Maybe that doesn't sound like a lot but I'm tired of doing this.

I'm tired

> of the 3 shots a week. I'm tired of feeling tired and unmotivated.

I am

> normally a very, very active person and granted, I am probably

doing more

> then most on treatment with going to the gym all the time but I

still spend

> the majority of my time sitting on the couch doing nothing but

watching TV.

> That is SO unlike me but it is becoming all I know. After doing

this for

> nearly a year, I no longer remember what life was like when I

wasn't on

> treatment and I hate that. I'll be done with all this in August

and really,

> I guess that isn't too far away but looking out my window right

now at all

> the snow on the ground, it seems like forever. I just want to be

done with

> this, I want it all to be over with so I can get on with my life.

I know

> that I will start feeling better in the Spring when I get back on

my bicycle

> and get some sun so I am just holding on for whenever that day

comes.

>

> Thanks for listening... Ally

>