ugh

[Guest guest]

Already you're helping yourself " cross the abyss " by recognizing what

happened for what it is, a momentary slip, and moving on. I have

struggled through two challenges until I finally decided to " just do

it. " I finally had reached my breaking point and now the fat is

falling off, slowly but surely. Be patient with yourself and realize

that you have good days and bad.

> Yes, I disappeared for a day or two. After starting the week on

such

> a high note, I hit the wall HARD on Tuesday evening/all day

> Wednesday. I've been doing some soul searching, trying to figure

out

> what triggered this. Maybe if I can figure that out, I can avoid it

> happening in the future.

>

> On Tuesday I went to lunch with a co-worker. I found a good meal to

> have, and it would have been perfect if I'd eaten HALF of it.

> Unfortunately, I scarfed down all of it. I was stuffed and felt

kind

> of ill. I decided to look at it as meals 3 and 4 and go from there.

> Fine enough, but somehow my head got messed up. I started feeling

> really sick and kind of depressed by the time I left work. I ended

up

> going home and pigging out. Three bowls of pasta. A shot of

whiskey.

> Yuck.

>

> Wednesday I woke up with a pounding headache and totally depressed.

I

> blew off my workout - I blew off going to work - I blew off an

> appointment I had. I did manage to drag myself to school, only

> because I had a test. My eating was not too bad, if only because

> there is very little food in the house at the present. Water

> consumption was low.

>

> This morning, again with the headache. Again, no workout. I am at

> work however. Breakfast was ok, though bigger portions than they

> should be. Haven't eaten anything else since. I am going to stop by

> the store on the way home from work and stock up on good eats.

>

> All in all, I think somehow I got mentally freaked by " failing " at

> lunch on Tuesday. I need to find a better way to deal with these

> things. I need to let go and move forward.

>

> I am determined to get up and do cardio tomorrow morning, headache

or

> no. Send me " GET OUT OF BED NOW! " thoughts, ok? :-)

>

> Sorry if this is a bit of a downer... I am actually feeling better

> and more positive today.

>

> Redondo

[Guest guest]

> > All in all, I think somehow I got mentally freaked by " failing "

at lunch on Tuesday. I need to find a better way to deal with these

> things. I need to let go and move forward.

>

This has been one of the hardest things for me. My thought was oh

well, blew it, might as well keep on blowing it. One way to think of

it is that if you had one tire slashed, would you want to slash all

the other tires?? Nope, you'd want to do what you could to

mend/repair the first tire. It is hard but try to let it go and just

move on and make the best of the rest of the day.

Colleen

[Guest guest]

,

I had to reply, because I've been where you're at right now so many

times. I have a total all or nothing mentality. It usually serves

me well (I'm a dang good lawyer!) but it doesn't work well when it

comes to food, because if I perceive even a little bit that I've

blown it, I get really down on myself, and the shame sets in, and

then I just binge full force. It's a terrible cycle to get trapped

in. It really messes with your mind.

I like Colleen's analogy of the tire slashing. If you lost $20,

you wouldn't go and throw the rest of your money out, would you?

It's the same thing, really, when we end up bingeing because we had

one piece of candy or something. I'm sure the lunch you ate wasn't

that bad, even if you did eat too much. And even if you blew off

Tuesday and Thursday, well, that leaves so many days ahead of you.

Vow to get on track right now, and you'll be feeling better in no

time.

Devyn

> Yes, I disappeared for a day or two. After starting the week on

such

> a high note, I hit the wall HARD on Tuesday evening/all day

> Wednesday. I've been doing some soul searching, trying to figure

out

> what triggered this. Maybe if I can figure that out, I can avoid

it

> happening in the future.

>

> On Tuesday I went to lunch with a co-worker. I found a good meal

to

> have, and it would have been perfect if I'd eaten HALF of it.

> Unfortunately, I scarfed down all of it. I was stuffed and felt

kind

> of ill. I decided to look at it as meals 3 and 4 and go from

there.

> Fine enough, but somehow my head got messed up. I started feeling

> really sick and kind of depressed by the time I left work. I ended

up

> going home and pigging out. Three bowls of pasta. A shot of

whiskey.

> Yuck.

>

> Wednesday I woke up with a pounding headache and totally

depressed. I

> blew off my workout - I blew off going to work - I blew off an

> appointment I had. I did manage to drag myself to school, only

> because I had a test. My eating was not too bad, if only because

> there is very little food in the house at the present. Water

> consumption was low.

>

> This morning, again with the headache. Again, no workout. I am at

> work however. Breakfast was ok, though bigger portions than they

> should be. Haven't eaten anything else since. I am going to stop

by

> the store on the way home from work and stock up on good eats.

>

> All in all, I think somehow I got mentally freaked by " failing " at

> lunch on Tuesday. I need to find a better way to deal with these

> things. I need to let go and move forward.

>

> I am determined to get up and do cardio tomorrow morning, headache

or

> no. Send me " GET OUT OF BED NOW! " thoughts, ok? :-)

>

> Sorry if this is a bit of a downer... I am actually feeling better

> and more positive today.

>

> Redondo

[Guest guest]

Yeah, me too! Three days away from flying out and I have a wicked

sinus infection. I'm going to the doctor tomorrow though, since I've

been on the OTC Sinus Cold & Flu for four days and it's not getting any

better.

I hope you're feeling better soon. Don't hesitate to see your GP if

it gets too bad.

-Kendra

> i was soooo happy i`m healthy while everybody around are sick. and

i guess i was TOO happy. today i woke up with light headache and at

the afternoon runny nose let me know about itself. ugh... so...

please keep your fingers crossed for me - i want to get rid of this

asap

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Never ever " gloat " that you're not sick. That's just asking for it! ;o)

[Guest guest]

my gp is my mom lol. i took some medicines, but i feel worse today... i hope it

will pass soon

Re: ugh

Yeah, me too! Three days away from flying out and I have a wicked

sinus infection. I'm going to the doctor tomorrow though, since I've

been on the OTC Sinus Cold & Flu for four days and it's not getting any

better.

I hope you're feeling better soon. Don't hesitate to see your GP if

it gets too bad.

-Kendra

> i was soooo happy i`m healthy while everybody around are sick. and

i guess i was TOO happy. today i woke up with light headache and at

the afternoon runny nose let me know about itself. ugh... so...

please keep your fingers crossed for me - i want to get rid of this

asap

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

well, so i`m sick lol

Re: Re: ugh

Never ever " gloat " that you're not sick. That's just asking for it! ;o)

[Guest guest]

I'm right behind you ....

Ann

No offense Lenny...and you know I love ya, but I am so outta here.

This list is not a bit about Evidence of Harm and its impact on our

kids and our community. It is no longer about coming together and

building on the momentum of 's book to make a real difference in

our country. The accusations, innuendos and constant bickering is

pointless and accomplishing nothing productive for our children.

I'm switching to no mail and hoping that the tide turns soon.

[Guest guest]

I totally agree with . I thank you for all of the

great info in the beginning but I am desperately

trying to recover my ASD son and just don't have the

time for what this list has become.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hey ..and I hope the tide does turn..but I am staying to continue

posting what IS important and not let this contamination ruin what EOH

stands for.

In EOHarm , " Fournier " <@w...> wrote:

> No offense Lenny...and you know I love ya, but I am so outta here.

>

> This list is not a bit about Evidence of Harm and its impact on our

kids and our community. It is no longer about coming together and

building on the momentum of 's book to make a real difference in

our country. The accusations, innuendos and constant bickering is

pointless and accomplishing nothing productive for our children.

>

> I'm switching to no mail and hoping that the tide turns soon.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . I KNEW I could count on you!

Sylviaredhead60707 <redhead60707@...> wrote:

Hey ..and I hope the tide does turn..but I am staying to continueposting what IS important and not let this contamination ruin what EOHstands for.

[Guest guest]

Some

of these people want just that. They want people like and Ann to leave.

Pamela

" Courage is doing

what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker,

top US

fighter ace, WWI

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Fournier

Sent: Wednesday, September 14,

2005 7:46 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Ugh

No offense Lenny...and you know I

love ya, but I am so outta here.

This list is not a bit about Evidence of

Harm and its impact on our kids and our community. It is no

longer about coming together and building on the momentum

of 's book to make a real difference in our country. The

accusations, innuendos and constant bickering is pointless and accomplishing

nothing productive for our children.

I'm switching to no mail and hoping that

the tide turns soon.

[Guest guest]

There are options to leaving as was suggesting, daily digest and opting for no mail delivery. I use daily digest for a few other groups that have similar issues.

Sometimes though in general sometimes go in the direction this one has shown the last couple of weeks. With out any assistance from pharma.

I recall one time in this group I replied to a post and the return email was a "wythe" email addy. After an email or two back and forth I finally said something about the wythe reply email addy and never heard from them again.

Many parents simply want to cut out the "crud" and get read the beneficial emails. I know I dont have time to sit and dwell over who may or may not agree with me or who may or may not be linked to an outside aggitator.

Day before yesterday I found out one of my son's aides is teaching him a "pinching game". I wondered why the incodents of pinching at home greatly increased lately. Yesterday my husband witnessed another aide speaking inappropriately to for pinching her. Needless to say since I was at work I told my husband to removed from the class until further notice. When you have things like this going on everyday in a perfect world we would not have to sift through email that ulitmately doesnt have any positive impact to benefit our children.

Cheri

Pamela Leigh <pamelaleigh@...> wrote:

Some of these people want just that. They want people like and Ann to leave.

Pamela

"Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared."

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of FournierSent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 7:46 PMEOHarm Subject: Ugh

No offense Lenny...and you know I love ya, but I am so outta here.

This list is not a bit about Evidence of Harm and its impact on our kids and our community. It is no longer about coming together and building on the momentum of 's book to make a real difference in our country. The accusations, innuendos and constant bickering is pointless and accomplishing nothing productive for our children.

I'm switching to no mail and hoping that the tide turns soon.

[Guest guest]

Last night, instead of my regular brand of veggie burger I tried a new

recipe for home made ones. Yecch! They're still sitting in my gut this

morning!

Because of that, I'm sure, the scale is up a pound today. After rehab

and some shopping I'm going to be sure to flood my system with plenty of

cool, clear water and help it, um, move along, so to speak. Hopefully

the sale will be back down tomorrow.

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

Live n learn, huh Sue.... sometimes it's just not worth venturing from the tried and true.

Hope you are feeling better soon.

ugh

Last night, instead of my regular brand of veggie burger I tried a new

recipe for home made ones. Yecch! They're still sitting in my gut this

morning!

Because of that, I'm sure, the scale is up a pound today. After rehab

and some shopping I'm going to be sure to flood my system with plenty of

cool, clear water and help it, um, move along, so to speak. Hopefully

the sale will be back down tomorrow.

Sue in NJ

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I understand your frustration. It's so hard to remind yourself of how crappy

you'll feel afterwards when you're grappling with the urge to overeat/binge.

But this is just a small bump - a hiccup, like you said. Forgive yourself and

do something that will be self-renewing.

With love,

Yuna

>

> Well, I had a really stressful day today-I knew that this would be a trigger

for me. So when I came home I tried to set everything up so that I wouldn't

binge. I relaxed for 20 minutes, I did something I really enjoy, I thought about

if I was hungry-then I ate dinner. It was healthy and I probably had a larger

serving than I needed-but then after dinner-I had a small binge. I feel a little

sick and uncomfortable and this should be a reminder to myself-that it doesn't

feel good! Oh but it is hard when there are things that I have used to cope for

so long-the other stuff, just doesn't feel right yet.

> I want to see this as just a little bump or a hiccup but it is so challenging

when you feel in control and progressing and then, bam-your out of control

again. Maybe the lesson is for me to let all of it go. It helps to be able to

post here and I am grateful for that.

> Thank you.

>

[Guest guest]

This reminds me of the podcast about making each binge just a little bit

shorter, or less intense, not struggling for anything more than that. It sounds

like this is exactly what you did. You stopped way before you previously would

have done and noted how it made you feel. A definite success in your journal I

think!

Jilly

From: paperplanesabove <paperplanesabove@...>

Subject: Ugh

weightloss

Date: Thursday, March 10, 2011, 2:51 PM

 

Well, I had a really stressful day today-I knew that this would be a

trigger for me. So when I came home I tried to set everything up so that I

wouldn't binge. I relaxed for 20 minutes, I did something I really enjoy, I

thought about if I was hungry-then I ate dinner. It was healthy and I probably

had a larger serving than I needed-but then after dinner-I had a small binge. I

feel a little sick and uncomfortable and this should be a reminder to

myself-that it doesn't feel good! Oh but it is hard when there are things that I

have used to cope for so long-the other stuff, just doesn't feel right yet.

I want to see this as just a little bump or a hiccup but it is so challenging

when you feel in control and progressing and then, bam-your out of control

again. Maybe the lesson is for me to let all of it go. It helps to be able to

post here and I am grateful for that.

Thank you.

[Guest guest]

Yup--for me, letting it go is the key.

Because of all the years that food was my only tool for dealing with life's ups

and downs, it's still often the first thing I think of.

When I started letting go of the guilt after a binge, it became easier for me to

self correct, instead of letting one day turn into one week. Or worse.

When I started letting go of the guilt *during* a binge, it became easier for me

to stop the binge. It's an interesting process--noticing that I am eating *to

hurt myself*--and then saying, hey, this must mean I'm hurting about something,

even if I'm not sure what it is yet--and then saying well, instead of eating the

whole [whatever], what if I have just this much, enjoy it, then go do something

else?

At this point, I can often skip from noticing I'm eating to realizing the

problem. At which point, the desire to eat often (but not always) evaporates.

When I started letting go of the feeling that " shouldn't I have figured it out

by now? Shouldn't it be automatic already? " I started opening up to other

possibilities....Like maybe I can continue to learn all sorts of Life Lessons

from the weight loss journey, even if I'm not focused on the weight? Really, I

think part of my regain before I found IOWL was the feeling that OK, I lost the

weight, I maintained the loss (I think it was at least 2 years), so, now I can

stop, right?

But I've found that maintaining the right mindset, maintaining the right level

of self care, requires, well, maintenance. Just like you wouldn't stop taking

care of your car after your first scheduled oil change, right? So I can't stop

taking care of *me* just because the scale showed the right number one day.

I guess it's letting go of the destination mindset. That one day I'll have it

all figured out, the road will be smooth, with no bumps or blips. No, I'm no

longer expecting that. (Though if it happens, great!) What I do expect, however,

is that the more I let go of, the better I'll be able to travel along that road.

________________________________

From: paperplanesabove <paperplanesabove@...>

weightloss

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:51:51 PM

Subject: Ugh

Well, I had a really stressful day today-I knew that this would be a trigger for

me. So when I came home I tried to set everything up so that I wouldn't binge. I

relaxed for 20 minutes, I did something I really enjoy, I thought about if I was

hungry-then I ate dinner. It was healthy and I probably had a larger serving

than I needed-but then after dinner-I had a small binge. I feel a little sick

and uncomfortable and this should be a reminder to myself-that it doesn't feel

good! Oh but it is hard when there are things that I have used to cope for so

long-the other stuff, just doesn't feel right yet.

I want to see this as just a little bump or a hiccup but it is so challenging

when you feel in control and progressing and then, bam-your out of control

again. Maybe the lesson is for me to let all of it go. It helps to be able to

post here and I am grateful for that.

Thank you.