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Tacy- I've had wonderful results with chiropractic and I, like your

dh, started out as a major skeptic. My dh's good friend and old

roomie is a chiro. and when we got married I had just a terrible

right hip problem and I couldn't walk anywhere for more than 15 min.

without extreme pain. Dh said to go see 'Doc ' as we call him. I

did NOT want to--thought it was quackery. He helped where MD's NEVER

could. Also, my ds was a child who occasionally popped up with an

ear infection (yes, he was breastfed until he weened himself at 17

mos.) and I took him to the chiro after listening to him scream 3

nights in a row from pain. It took one adjustment and he NEVER had

another ear infection again. I also had all of newborns adjusted and

never had a problem or issue with it being too rough on them. Chiro

care in my experience has always been extremely gentle.

Take some info on chiro care from your Dr.'s office and bring it home

for your dh. He's just trying to be responsible which is great. And

maybe when he gets the info he needs then he'll be satisfied.

As far as techniques go, there are a lot of them. I didn't realize

this until we moved to Iowa. In Davenport is the very first

chiropractic college ever so I really got an education about it all

when we moved here. We had our guy from home and another guy I went

to when I couldn't get it to see my regular one and they were pretty

similar. When we moved down here most of the chiros down here use a

different technique called Gonstead which is very popular at Palmer--

the college in Davenport. When my dd showed up with her vax injury

we also starting see a Chriopractic Neurologist (even chiros can have

sub-specialties) and he does something even different from Gonstead

and our guys from home. So yes, shop around if you can and ask

questions about how and why they do their adjusting. I haven't met a

chiro yet who won't tell you all about it.

Hope that helps...

Kristi in IA

>

> VERY helpful about the state laws on vax! Thank you.

> So, here's my next line of research....took my baby to

chiropractor. I

> think it was helpful. Felt much better than after the md

prescribed

> some antibiotics. Anyway, my husband is great with trying all the

> natural remedies, but does not agree with popping (I know it is

> adjusting:) ears, backs, necks. He thinks it is not good for you-I

> can't say I have a good arguement for that...and I can't say I'm

sold

> on it either. So I need some good resources if any can point me

> there...opinions and personal stories would be great, too!!!

> The other downfall is that in many instances, it seems as though

> chiro.'s may lay on guilt trips if you don't come in regularly.

How

> much is too much and how much is enough. They may be a better

resource

> for care, but they are humans, too. And we still have to temper

their

> advice with our own knowledge and " gut " feelings. What do you

say???

> Thanks again, I am up late on Fri night for this- that's how much I

> appreciate it, Tacy

> p.s.This is on topic for me b/c it all connects for me right now-no

> more vax/caring for family naturally/making the best choices in

every

> area of our lives.

>

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Hi, Tacy,

Chiropractic is safe for babies. My son saw my chiro off and on his

first year (she didn't charge anything for his 1st year, since I was

already a patient!); nothing major, though.

The reason chiros have you come in often (at first, and then it

should taper off) is because most of us have had our maladjustments

(subluxations) for awhile and our muscles, tendons, etc. have become

accustomed to it being that way. When the chiro moves the bones to

where they are supposed to be, the muscles, etc. tend to pull them

back. That's why they usually see you 3x/week for the first week or

two, then 2x/week, 1x/week, etc.

With a baby, I don't know. I can't see why a baby would be as stuck

as an adult. If the chiro is pushing for the usual routine, it could

be several reasons: (a) he/she doesn't know of any other way to do

it, knows that routine works and so is reluctant to switch from it

(B) some babies may need more (again, I would be somewhat skeptical

of that, or © the chiro is lazy and/or wants the extra $$.

One last thing: when chiros " pop " your back, all they are doing is

releasing areas where the bones have gotten jammed. The natural state

of the joints is to move freely. When you've got a jam, the joint

doesn't move freely. All the chiro is doing is releasing it to move

freely again. So they aren't putting anything where it shouldn't go

or damaging anything.

As for getting info about chiro safety... I would do an internet

search for " safety " and " chiropractic " or something like that. Will

probably find lots of stuff from chiros and chiro association talking

about its safety. Good luck! -Angie

On Apr 14, 2007, at 2:25 AM, Tacy wrote:

> VERY helpful about the state laws on vax! Thank you.

> So, here's my next line of research....took my baby to chiropractor. I

> think it was helpful. Felt much better than after the md prescribed

> some antibiotics. Anyway, my husband is great with trying all the

> natural remedies, but does not agree with popping (I know it is

> adjusting:) ears, backs, necks. He thinks it is not good for you-I

> can't say I have a good arguement for that...and I can't say I'm sold

> on it either. So I need some good resources if any can point me

> there...opinions and personal stories would be great, too!!!

> The other downfall is that in many instances, it seems as though

> chiro.'s may lay on guilt trips if you don't come in regularly. How

> much is too much and how much is enough. They may be a better resource

> for care, but they are humans, too. And we still have to temper their

> advice with our own knowledge and " gut " feelings. What do you say???

> Thanks again, I am up late on Fri night for this- that's how much I

> appreciate it, Tacy

> p.s.This is on topic for me b/c it all connects for me right now-no

> more vax/caring for family naturally/making the best choices in every

> area of our lives.

>

>

>

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<<With a baby, I don't know. I can't see why a baby would be as stuck as

an adult. If the chiro is pushing for the usual routine, it could be

several reasons: (a) he/she doesn't know of any other way to do it,

knows that routine works and so is reluctant to switch from it (B) some

babies may need more (again, I would be somewhat skeptical of that, or

© the chiro is lazy and/or wants the extra $$.>>

I took my youngest to the chiro regularly when she was first born. I

can't remember how often she saw her at first, but my daughter did have

a traumatic birth that would have caused many subluxations so I was

happy to take her. (Quick version of her birth - Shayna was breech, dr

did a c-section, Shayna slid sideways and got stuck. The dr had to

wrestle with her for quite a while before she could get her turned one

way or the other and get her out. The dr bruised my ribs and Shayna's.)

I believe that any baby born via a c-section should be seen by a chiro

asap after birth and probably a few times a month for a month or two

after that depending on the complications of the c-section.

I'm planning on having this baby at a birthing center but I still plan

on taking him or her to the chiro. And I have been going to the chiro

throughout my pregnancy as well.

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 due 06/07.

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<OhioVaxInfo@...> wrote: <I believe that any baby born

via a c-section should be seen by a chiro

asap after birth and probably a few times a month for a month or two

after that depending on the complications of the c-section.

I only wish I had done that with my autistic son Henry. He had the most

violent birth via c-section. He never dropped and when they re-opened my bikini

cut, he was still way out of reach. They then did a " classic " cut that was

vertical and pulled and wiggled him out. I can remember my body thrashing from

side to side on that table; it was SO frightening.

We had a lot of challenges after his birth; I didn't get him chiro care until

months afterwards. As he became more autistic, it became more and more difficult

to get him adjusted and we finally gave up. I do regret it terribly....Anita

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do you guys see chiro's for your well baby checks of sort?

do you skip regular dr's ?

can a chiro write a medical exemption for vaccines? i'm guessing not

my PA gave me a video to watch on why i should vaccinate my 2 month old...i

watched it this weekend and i must say, it really wasn't convicing...the

best they had was a woman who didn't vax her child and got

menengitis......but that wasn't even very convincing the way they did it

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New here and jumped in in the middle, so tell me why should children see chiros?

I think may be if I take my 2 year old may be it will help with her

functional/cronic constipation. What do you think? I have just made the decision

to not vaccinate because of the problems my ids have experienced. Lets see next

week how my ped takes it. I an taking my 3 1/2 month old for her 4 month check

up! Can't wait for that.

Melody

Proud mommy of Tony 11, Breanna 6, Lilianna 2 years old, nna 3 1/2 months

old

Arlington, Tx

<OhioVaxInfo@...> wrote:

<<With a baby, I don't know. I can't see why a baby would be as stuck

as

an adult. If the chiro is pushing for the usual routine, it could be

several reasons: (a) he/she doesn't know of any other way to do it,

knows that routine works and so is reluctant to switch from it (B) some

babies may need more (again, I would be somewhat skeptical of that, or

© the chiro is lazy and/or wants the extra $$.>>

I took my youngest to the chiro regularly when she was first born. I

can't remember how often she saw her at first, but my daughter did have

a traumatic birth that would have caused many subluxations so I was

happy to take her. (Quick version of her birth - Shayna was breech, dr

did a c-section, Shayna slid sideways and got stuck. The dr had to

wrestle with her for quite a while before she could get her turned one

way or the other and get her out. The dr bruised my ribs and Shayna's.)

I believe that any baby born via a c-section should be seen by a chiro

asap after birth and probably a few times a month for a month or two

after that depending on the complications of the c-section.

I'm planning on having this baby at a birthing center but I still plan

on taking him or her to the chiro. And I have been going to the chiro

throughout my pregnancy as well.

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 due 06/07.

Vaccine free since 1999.

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My grandson, now 8 months old was taken early on to a chrio and he helped

his constipation after they told my daughter at the hospital that it was

normal for them not to go every day, should be after every meal especially

being breastfed. But, in his case after going to a homeopathic physician,

that he actually had an allergy to milk and she put him on a remedy for him

and that solved his problem. So if she is constipated, them there is a

reason for it.

The guy had three kids of his own, who were not vaccinated and he told my

daughter that he treated his last son who was a month old at the time, that

he had treated him before they even cut the cord because he would not stop

crying after he was born. I know that 25 years ago, I had my son there when

he was just three days old and my middle daughter at about a week because

she cried allot. They can treat an earache, cold or just about anything.

Bonnie

In New Hampshire

RE: I believe its on topic-let me know my boundaries

here

> New here and jumped in in the middle, so tell me why should children see

> chiros? I think may be if I take my 2 year old may be it will help with

> her functional/cronic constipation. What do you think? I have just made

> the decision to not vaccinate because of the problems my ids have

> experienced. Lets see next week how my ped takes it. I an taking my 3 1/2

> month old for her 4 month check up! Can't wait for that.

> Melody

> Proud mommy of Tony 11, Breanna 6, Lilianna 2 years old, nna 3 1/2

> months old

> Arlington, Tx

>

> <OhioVaxInfo@...> wrote:

> <<With a baby, I don't know. I can't see why a baby would be as

> stuck as

> an adult. If the chiro is pushing for the usual routine, it could be

> several reasons: (a) he/she doesn't know of any other way to do it,

> knows that routine works and so is reluctant to switch from it (B) some

> babies may need more (again, I would be somewhat skeptical of that, or

> © the chiro is lazy and/or wants the extra $$.>>

>

> I took my youngest to the chiro regularly when she was first born. I

> can't remember how often she saw her at first, but my daughter did have

> a traumatic birth that would have caused many subluxations so I was

> happy to take her. (Quick version of her birth - Shayna was breech, dr

> did a c-section, Shayna slid sideways and got stuck. The dr had to

> wrestle with her for quite a while before she could get her turned one

> way or the other and get her out. The dr bruised my ribs and Shayna's.)

> I believe that any baby born via a c-section should be seen by a chiro

> asap after birth and probably a few times a month for a month or two

> after that depending on the complications of the c-section.

>

> I'm planning on having this baby at a birthing center but I still plan

> on taking him or her to the chiro. And I have been going to the chiro

> throughout my pregnancy as well.

>

>

> )0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

> Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

> 06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 due 06/07.

> Vaccine free since 1999.

>

>

>

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I don't know if chiro's do well baby checks, but... if they're not

being vaxed, and your chiro doesn't vax, (mine didn't) they're a

GREAT reference of WHERE to find a dr. that doesn't push

vaccinations!! My chiro told me of when when my daughter was young,

and he just asked each visit if I still didn't want them. I

confirmed, and he moved on. No hassle, no harassment, etc. How

NICE!!! So... you might want to try that route. Or... I'm sure you

could call any chiro out of the phone book and just ask them if they

have any references to give you on a dr. that doesn't push

vaccinations. I'm thinking most chiros don't vaccinate, so.... After

a while, my daughter's ped. actually told me that if she's not

getting vaccinations, there's really no reason to keep coming in

unless I'm concerned about something, or she's having problems with

something. She was gaining weight just fine, etc. So.... After

hearing that from him, my boys have had well baby checks til like...

2 months old- just to check weights, and that was it! lol They are 3

1/2 years, and twins that are 18 months. They've only been to the

dr. for issues we've had.

Tara

> <<With a baby, I don't know. I can't see why a baby

would be as stuck as

> an adult. If the chiro is pushing for the usual routine, it could

be

> several reasons: (a) he/she doesn't know of any other way to do it,

> knows that routine works and so is reluctant to switch from it (B)

some

> babies may need more (again, I would be somewhat skeptical of

that, or

> © the chiro is lazy and/or wants the extra $$.>>

>

> I took my youngest to the chiro regularly when she was first born.

I

> can't remember how often she saw her at first, but my daughter did

have

> a traumatic birth that would have caused many subluxations so I was

> happy to take her. (Quick version of her birth - Shayna was

breech, dr

> did a c-section, Shayna slid sideways and got stuck. The dr had to

> wrestle with her for quite a while before she could get her turned

one

> way or the other and get her out. The dr bruised my ribs and

Shayna's.)

> I believe that any baby born via a c-section should be seen by a

chiro

> asap after birth and probably a few times a month for a month or

two

> after that depending on the complications of the c-section.

>

> I'm planning on having this baby at a birthing center but I still

plan

> on taking him or her to the chiro. And I have been going to the

chiro

> throughout my pregnancy as well.

>

>

> )0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

> Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

> 06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 due 06/07.

> Vaccine free since 1999.

>

>

>

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Tabitha- Here in IA you cannot use a chiro for a medical exemption.

I have tried. I do see the chiro for almost all of our medical

needs. My kids have not been back to the family MD since my dd's vax

injury although she has been seen over in Iowa City several times.

Your best bet is the religious exemption.

Kristi in IA

>

> do you guys see chiro's for your well baby checks of sort?

> do you skip regular dr's ?

> can a chiro write a medical exemption for vaccines? i'm guessing

not

>

> my PA gave me a video to watch on why i should vaccinate my 2 month

old...i

> watched it this weekend and i must say, it really wasn't

convicing...the

> best they had was a woman who didn't vax her child and got

> menengitis......but that wasn't even very convincing the way they

did it

>

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thank you kristi!

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>Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:22:50 -0000

>

>Tabitha- Here in IA you cannot use a chiro for a medical exemption.

>I have tried. I do see the chiro for almost all of our medical

>needs. My kids have not been back to the family MD since my dd's vax

>injury although she has been seen over in Iowa City several times.

>Your best bet is the religious exemption.

>

>Kristi in IA

>

>

> >

> > do you guys see chiro's for your well baby checks of sort?

> > do you skip regular dr's ?

> > can a chiro write a medical exemption for vaccines? i'm guessing

>not

> >

> > my PA gave me a video to watch on why i should vaccinate my 2 month

>old...i

> > watched it this weekend and i must say, it really wasn't

>convicing...the

> > best they had was a woman who didn't vax her child and got

> > menengitis......but that wasn't even very convincing the way they

>did it

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton .  Enter to win

>today.

> > http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline

> >

>

>

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WOW I am gonna look into finding a chiro that eill treat my 2 babies maybe even

the 2 older ones.

Melody

Bonnie <jennelle8@...> wrote:

My grandson, now 8 months old was taken early on to a chrio and he

helped

his constipation after they told my daughter at the hospital that it was

normal for them not to go every day, should be after every meal especially

being breastfed. But, in his case after going to a homeopathic physician,

that he actually had an allergy to milk and she put him on a remedy for him

and that solved his problem. So if she is constipated, them there is a

reason for it.

The guy had three kids of his own, who were not vaccinated and he told my

daughter that he treated his last son who was a month old at the time, that

he had treated him before they even cut the cord because he would not stop

crying after he was born. I know that 25 years ago, I had my son there when

he was just three days old and my middle daughter at about a week because

she cried allot. They can treat an earache, cold or just about anything.

Bonnie

In New Hampshire

RE: I believe its on topic-let me know my boundaries

here

> New here and jumped in in the middle, so tell me why should children see

> chiros? I think may be if I take my 2 year old may be it will help with

> her functional/cronic constipation. What do you think? I have just made

> the decision to not vaccinate because of the problems my ids have

> experienced. Lets see next week how my ped takes it. I an taking my 3 1/2

> month old for her 4 month check up! Can't wait for that.

> Melody

> Proud mommy of Tony 11, Breanna 6, Lilianna 2 years old, nna 3 1/2

> months old

> Arlington, Tx

>

> <OhioVaxInfo@...> wrote:

> <<With a baby, I don't know. I can't see why a baby would be as

> stuck as

> an adult. If the chiro is pushing for the usual routine, it could be

> several reasons: (a) he/she doesn't know of any other way to do it,

> knows that routine works and so is reluctant to switch from it (B) some

> babies may need more (again, I would be somewhat skeptical of that, or

> © the chiro is lazy and/or wants the extra $$.>>

>

> I took my youngest to the chiro regularly when she was first born. I

> can't remember how often she saw her at first, but my daughter did have

> a traumatic birth that would have caused many subluxations so I was

> happy to take her. (Quick version of her birth - Shayna was breech, dr

> did a c-section, Shayna slid sideways and got stuck. The dr had to

> wrestle with her for quite a while before she could get her turned one

> way or the other and get her out. The dr bruised my ribs and Shayna's.)

> I believe that any baby born via a c-section should be seen by a chiro

> asap after birth and probably a few times a month for a month or two

> after that depending on the complications of the c-section.

>

> I'm planning on having this baby at a birthing center but I still plan

> on taking him or her to the chiro. And I have been going to the chiro

> throughout my pregnancy as well.

>

>

> )0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

> Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

> 06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 due 06/07.

> Vaccine free since 1999.

>

>

>

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My children both go to a chiro, not so much anymore. My son was " adjusted "

regularly for a while, from around 3 weeks old, he was footling breech and had

issues wiht his hips.

My daughter was seen from around 5 weeks old or so... and we learned REAL quick

to take a diaper AND change of clothing, she'd POOP big time RIGHT after - so

I'm sure it did some great things right there. My daughter also had colic,

cried and cried all night, our first quiet night was after her first

adjustment.... but then it started again and we took her back for another

adjustment and there was NO more crying!

Niether child has had ear infections, no shots, no antibiotics. My son B/F till

6mnths (he is 7yrs old now), my daughter till she was 3 years old. (she's not

yet 4)

Chelly

RE: I believe its on topic-let me know my boundaries

here

> New here and jumped in in the middle, so tell me why should children see

> chiros? I think may be if I take my 2 year old may be it will help with

> her functional/cronic constipation. What do you think? I have just made

> the decision to not vaccinate because of the problems my ids have

> experienced. Lets see next week how my ped takes it. I an taking my 3 1/2

> month old for her 4 month check up! Can't wait for that.

> Melody

> Proud mommy of Tony 11, Breanna 6, Lilianna 2 years old, nna 3 1/2

> months old

> Arlington, Tx

>

> <OhioVaxInfo@...> wrote:

> <<With a baby, I don't know. I can't see why a baby would be as

> stuck as

> an adult. If the chiro is pushing for the usual routine, it could be

> several reasons: (a) he/she doesn't know of any other way to do it,

> knows that routine works and so is reluctant to switch from it (B) some

> babies may need more (again, I would be somewhat skeptical of that, or

> © the chiro is lazy and/or wants the extra $$.>>

>

> I took my youngest to the chiro regularly when she was first born. I

> can't remember how often she saw her at first, but my daughter did have

> a traumatic birth that would have caused many subluxations so I was

> happy to take her. (Quick version of her birth - Shayna was breech, dr

> did a c-section, Shayna slid sideways and got stuck. The dr had to

> wrestle with her for quite a while before she could get her turned one

> way or the other and get her out. The dr bruised my ribs and Shayna's.)

> I believe that any baby born via a c-section should be seen by a chiro

> asap after birth and probably a few times a month for a month or two

> after that depending on the complications of the c-section.

>

> I'm planning on having this baby at a birthing center but I still plan

> on taking him or her to the chiro. And I have been going to the chiro

> throughout my pregnancy as well.

>

>

> )0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

> Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

> 06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 due 06/07.

> Vaccine free since 1999.

>

>

>

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How do you go about getting a religious exemption?

clinstrom5 <clinstrom5@...> wrote: Tabitha- Here in IA you cannot

use a chiro for a medical exemption.

I have tried. I do see the chiro for almost all of our medical

needs. My kids have not been back to the family MD since my dd's vax

injury although she has been seen over in Iowa City several times.

Your best bet is the religious exemption.

Kristi in IA

>

> do you guys see chiro's for your well baby checks of sort?

> do you skip regular dr's ?

> can a chiro write a medical exemption for vaccines? i'm guessing

not

>

> my PA gave me a video to watch on why i should vaccinate my 2 month

old...i

> watched it this weekend and i must say, it really wasn't

convicing...the

> best they had was a woman who didn't vax her child and got

> menengitis......but that wasn't even very convincing the way they

did it

>

> __________________________________________________________

> MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton . Enter to win

today.

> http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline

>

May the Lord continue to bless you, more abundantly!

Love ya,

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We only needed a signed card when it came to school. We homeschool

but we still needed to fill out the card when we filed our paperwork

with the school district. For anything else we just told them that

we don't vax for religious reasons that was enough.

Kristi in IA

> >

> > do you guys see chiro's for your well baby checks of sort?

> > do you skip regular dr's ?

> > can a chiro write a medical exemption for vaccines? i'm guessing

> not

> >

> > my PA gave me a video to watch on why i should vaccinate my 2

month

> old...i

> > watched it this weekend and i must say, it really wasn't

> convicing...the

> > best they had was a woman who didn't vax her child and got

> > menengitis......but that wasn't even very convincing the way they

> did it

> >

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> >

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> May the Lord continue to bless you, more abundantly!

>

> Love ya,

>

> Melody

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