RE: On the topic of Oprah's show today....

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In a message dated 4/5/2007 8:38:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

taralowen@... writes:

I'm curious if ANY of you, who have not vaccinated, have ever had a

child with Autism??

has had no vaccines, and is not autistic. I've read a story about the

Amish and autism. Supposedely they have no autism. It is an article you

might be interested in. I don't have the link.

Holly

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I have an unvaccinated son who experienced early onset autism. I feel so alone

and have only found one other person, a chiropractor down south somewhere, with

the same situation....Anita

" Tara O. " <taralowen@...> wrote: I'm curious if ANY of you, who have not

vaccinated, have ever had a

child with Autism?? We do not vaccinate, and my mom was VERY curious

about this. Or, if your child does have autism, were they vaccinated?

Does anyone know why there isn't a " poll " option here like most

groups have?? I think that would be a GREAT tool to have! Just

curious. Thanks!

Tara

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I want to add that autism is not the only negative long-term illness to come

from vaccines. My son suffered epilepsy and we believe vaccines had a role. Kids

with the same disease as him started the day of vaccination, that we know. And

many of them are much worse off than my son.

Steph

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: I have an unvaccinated son who

experienced early onset autism. I feel so alone and have only found one other

person, a chiropractor down south somewhere, with the same situation....Anita

Read about my Adventures In Babywearing here:

http://adventuresinbabywearing.blogspot.com/

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Absolutely, . The damage comes in many forms with a litany of excuses

for where it came from and why....Anita

Precourt <jsprecourt@...> wrote: I want to add that autism is

not the only negative long-term illness to come from vaccines. My son suffered

epilepsy and we believe vaccines had a role. Kids with the same disease as him

started the day of vaccination, that we know. And many of them are much worse

off than my son.

Steph

Anita Durney wrote: I have an unvaccinated son who experienced early onset

autism. I feel so alone and have only found one other person, a chiropractor

down south somewhere, with the same situation....Anita

Read about my Adventures In Babywearing here:

http://adventuresinbabywearing.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

<<I want to add that autism is not the only negative long-term illness

to come from vaccines. My son suffered epilepsy and we believe vaccines

had a role. Kids with the same disease as him started the day of

vaccination, that we know. And many of them are much worse off than my

son. >>

I'd like to add Type 1 Diabetes to that list. I cannot prove that my

daughter's vaccinations directly caused her Diabetes, however, it is

listed as a possible side effect from the MMR vaccine in the package

insert. (I didn't know that until over a year after she was dx'd.) I

find the rapidly rising rate of Type 1 Diabetes extremely alarming along

with all the other chronic illnesses that have been on the rise lately.

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 due 06/07.

Vaccine free since 1999.

[Guest guest]

Some good info at the below web site.

Joe

http://www.mercola.com/2005/may/4/amish_autism.htm

mensrea320@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/5/2007 8:38:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

taralowen@... writes:

I'm curious if ANY of you, who have not vaccinated, have ever had a

child with Autism??

has had no vaccines, and is not autistic. I've read a story about the

Amish and autism. Supposedely they have no autism. It is an article you

might be interested in. I don't have the link.

Holly

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

Well I'm with you in that boat because our 4 yo dd was just diagnosed

(finally!) with a form of polio caused by her attenuated polio

vaccination. And this is something that (at least right now with

what we know of) can't be cured. It's permanent. I just think that

autism happens to have a pretty high profile in relation to

vaccnations so it gets discussed more often. But hey, I'm in favor

of anything that sheds light on the dangers of vaxes. Anything to

help get a dialogue started works for me.

Kristi in IA

I have an unvaccinated son who

experienced early onset autism. I feel so alone and have only found

one other person, a chiropractor down south somewhere, with the same

situation....Anita

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[Guest guest]

I'd be really curious to know of any child who is unvaxed and has

the " regressive " type of autism.

Amy

[Guest guest]

At 03:32 AM 4/7/2007 -0000, you wrote:

>I'd be really curious to know of any child who is unvaxed and has

>the " regressive " type of autism.

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>Amy

I know of none that have regressive type.

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At 01:08 AM 4/7/2007 -0000, you wrote:

>Well I'm with you in that boat because our 4 yo dd was just diagnosed

>(finally!) with a form of polio caused by her attenuated polio

>vaccination. And this is something that (at least right now with

>what we know of) can't be cured. It's permanent.

I would not accept that. Homeopathic treatment can be very miraculous in

the hands of the right practitioner.

I would never accept that just because they tell you that. They also told

you the vaccine was safe.

There is another realm outside of allopathy that they know nothing about

nor do they want to know.

What are your daughter's symptoms?

I know it took you a long time to get them to admit it was the vaccine, but

I think there also has to be a toxic state also.

Anyting else toxic in the environment around your daughter about the same

time?

Sheri

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

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[Guest guest]

Hey, I've never been one to say that we wouldn't try other avenues of

treatment. I'm just saying what we know right now is that the damage

is permanent.

Her symptoms...(did you receive these in an offlist email? or am I

losing my mind which is totally possible...)

1. tight heel chord on the right side so much so that she is unable

to put her foot down without advancing it.

2. sciatic nerve damage below the knee to the extent that the right

calf muscle is wasting away-this is visible to the eye.

3. right foot is smaller in mass

We also live in a town with an ADM refinery (corn) that often

pollutes the town with a horrid smell, a Purina plant and Lyondell

chemical plant.

We have detoxed her with a Heel detox formulated for vaxes. I can

find the bottles of exactly what we used if you'd like. That detox

did nothing for the leg and foot that we could detect.

Let me know what you make of all of this. Any insight is always

appreciated.

Thanks, Kristi in IA

> >Well I'm with you in that boat because our 4 yo dd was just

diagnosed

> >(finally!) with a form of polio caused by her attenuated polio

> >vaccination. And this is something that (at least right now with

> >what we know of) can't be cured. It's permanent.

>

> I would not accept that. Homeopathic treatment can be very

miraculous in

> the hands of the right practitioner.

> I would never accept that just because they tell you that. They

also told

> you the vaccine was safe.

> There is another realm outside of allopathy that they know nothing

about

> nor do they want to know.

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> What are your daughter's symptoms?

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> I know it took you a long time to get them to admit it was the

vaccine, but

> I think there also has to be a toxic state also.

> Anyting else toxic in the environment around your daughter about

the same

> time?

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> Sheri

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> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>