Protomyxzoa/Dr Fry treatment

[Guest guest]

http://www.iadvocatehealth.org/protozoal_infection0.aspx

Hi Everyone,

As some of you may remember, I tested positive last year for protomyxzoa, the

malaria-like protozoa discovered by Dr. Fry.  He believes that this

pathogen is the cause of CFS and that various forms of it may cause other

chronic inflamatory diseases.  The above link is an interview with Dr. Fry that

I wanted to pass along to any of you who relate to a pathogen connection.

Kay 

[Guest guest]

I read this, this is so amazing. It also makes me understand why I LOVE

heat and feel better (the protmyxzoa does not have heat tolerance!). I

am anxious to hear more. I also feel better on antibiotics, especially

azithromycin. Got bit a LOT with mosquitos all my life.

in La Selva Beach CA

On 6/20/2012 3:48 PM, Kay Siegrist wrote:

>

> http://www.iadvocatehealth.org/protozoal_infection0.aspx

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> As some of you may remember, I tested positive last year for

> protomyxzoa, the malaria-like protozoa discovered by Dr. Fry.

> He believes that this pathogen is the cause of CFS and that various

> forms of it may cause other chronic inflamatory diseases. The above

> link is an interview with Dr. Fry that I wanted to pass along to any

> of you who relate to a pathogen connection.

>

> Kay

>

[Guest guest]

if you feel better on antibiotics, that is definitely a good clue. i never have

felt anything on antibiotics myself but CFS specialists often ask that question.

________________________________

From: Schmidt <schmidtmba@...>

Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:24:46 AM

Subject: Re: Protomyxzoa/Dr Fry treatment

 

I read this, this is so amazing. It also makes me understand why I LOVE

heat and feel better (the protmyxzoa does not have heat tolerance!). I

am anxious to hear more. I also feel better on antibiotics, especially

azithromycin. Got bit a LOT with mosquitos all my life.

in La Selva Beach CA

On 6/20/2012 3:48 PM, Kay Siegrist wrote:

>

> http://www.iadvocatehealth.org/protozoal_infection0.aspx

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> As some of you may remember, I tested positive last year for

> protomyxzoa, the malaria-like protozoa discovered by Dr. Fry.

> He believes that this pathogen is the cause of CFS and that various

> forms of it may cause other chronic inflamatory diseases. The above

> link is an interview with Dr. Fry that I wanted to pass along to any

> of you who relate to a pathogen connection.

>

> Kay

>

[Guest guest]

I started Dr. Fry's treatment in March 2011, only took antibiotics the first 6

months, didn't feel better for those months due to Herxing, and believe along

with Dr. Fry that the lowfat diet part of his treatment that is the most

important part.  It is the whole of his treatment that makes it work.

 Lumbrokinaise to break down biofilm exposing the protomyxaoa so that medicine

can reach it, is essential.  Then once it's exposed, malarone (in my case) to

kill it, and the lowfat diet (15 grams/day or less) to starve it and help with

other CFS symptoms.  Earlier this year I got to where I could no longer

tolerate the malarone.  It's an aggressive strong malaria drug.  After web

searching natural anti-malarials, I started taking the herbal elecampane.  It

is effective.  I can tell because my morning urine is brown.  That's the

decomposed protomyxzoa flushing out.  And the elecampane is easier for my body

to handle.

The long term antibiotics were the only part of his treatment plan that gave me

pause.  I've experienced high oxalate levels due to the overuse of particular

antibiotics.  It took me many months to get that turned around.  And I've

experienced other issues due to overuse of antibiotics too.  I decided to try

tetracycline for the first few months as a support for the rest of the treatment

because I wanted to give this treatment every possible chance to work.  After

the initial " push " though, I stopped it and Dr. Fry was fine with it.  He knows

that some of us don't want more antibiotics.  On the remainder of his treatment

protocol minus the antibiotics, I have still experienced much progress.  In the

last few months especially, my physical and mental fatigue feels gone or almost

gone.  It is so amazing and freeing to me, to no longer have extreme brain fog

and brain fatigue.  I still have some on occasion but not much.  And my pain

and aching

levels are much much less.  I'm still tired from the die-off and the action of

the treatment itself.  But as you all know, being tired and fatigue are 2

entirely different things.  I still experience Herxes but they're gentler.

 And when the signs come, I just stop taking everything for about a week then

start my treatment again.  I've had CFS for almost 30 years and am in my 60s.

 This process is faster and easier the younger the patient and the fewer years

with CFS.

I wanted to answer your email Sue because I didn't want you all to think

antibiotics made me feel better.  They didn't.  If they make some of you feel

better, great.  But for me, it is the rest of the treatment, that has made the

biggest difference.

Kay    

________________________________

From: Sue <suebackagain123@...>

" " < >

Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:00 AM

Subject: Re: Protomyxzoa/Dr Fry treatment

I am 

 

if you feel better on antibiotics, that is definitely a good clue. i never have

felt anything on antibiotics myself but CFS specialists often ask that question.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

Do you think one can tackle this protozoa without antibiotics.

I am in India and dont have access to these doctors who know so much about

these things so i was wondering if you think I could do the lumbrokinase

and the herbal malarial medicine and see if I herx ?

How much does the test for this cost ?

Love,

deepak

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Kay Siegrist <ksiegr@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> I started Dr. Fry's treatment in March 2011, only took antibiotics the

> first 6 months, didn't feel better for those months due to Herxing, and

> believe along with Dr. Fry that the lowfat diet part of his treatment that

> is the most important part. It is the whole of his treatment that makes it

> work. Lumbrokinaise to break down biofilm exposing the protomyxaoa so that

> medicine can reach it, is essential. Then once it's exposed, malarone (in

> my case) to kill it, and the lowfat diet (15 grams/day or less) to starve

> it and help with other CFS symptoms. Earlier this year I got to where I

> could no longer tolerate the malarone. It's an aggressive strong malaria

> drug.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

The test costs about $300.  Yes, I do think this protozoa can be handled

without antibiotics.  I know it can. I'm doing it.  If you have protomyxzoa, a

lowfat diet, lumbrokinase, and elecampane may give you results.  When your

morning urine turns brown, you will know elecampane is the effective herbal for

you. It will take a while.  That part varies person to person.  If you are

taking magnesium and calcium, they need to be discontinued. I stopped.  Dr. Fry

cannot get people well if they take magnesium.  The protomyxzoa uses it and

calcium to build the biofilm.

If you have protomyxzoa, the lowfat diet plus lumbrokinase and elecampane when

they get rolling, will give you herxes.  Herxes are a given immune response

when there's die-off, particles in the blood.  Once you become familiar with

the herx signs though, you will learn your time frame and can minimize or even

avoid them.  If you discover for instance, that your herxes occur after about 4

weeks on the treatment, take the treatment for 3 weeks then stop for a week to

let your body catch up, then begin again.  This is not a treatment that

patients start and continue without breaks.  It is a treatment that one starts

and stops, starts and stops according to the time frame of herxes/flare-ups in

your body.  One simply needs to listen to their body and learn their own

pattern then adapt the treatment to it.  Bentonite clay helped reduce my

toxicity after a herx started.

Kay  

________________________________

From: Deepak L <deepak0625@...>

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:52 AM

Subject: Re: Protomyxzoa/Dr Fry treatment

 

Hi Kay,

Do you think one can tackle this protozoa without antibiotics.

I am in India and dont have access to these doctors who know so much about

these things so i was wondering if you think I could do the lumbrokinase

and the herbal malarial medicine and see if I herx ?

How much does the test for this cost ?

Love,

deepak

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Kay Siegrist <ksiegr@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> I started Dr. Fry's treatment in March 2011, only took antibiotics the

> first 6 months, didn't feel better for those months due to Herxing, and

> believe along with Dr. Fry that the lowfat diet part of his treatment that

> is the most important part. It is the whole of his treatment that makes it

> work. Lumbrokinaise to break down biofilm exposing the protomyxaoa so that

> medicine can reach it, is essential. Then once it's exposed, malarone (in

> my case) to kill it, and the lowfat diet (15 grams/day or less) to starve

> it and help with other CFS symptoms. Earlier this year I got to where I

> could no longer tolerate the malarone. It's an aggressive strong malaria

> drug.

[Guest guest]

Dear Kay,

Thanks for the reply.

Would you know how much the test costs for this ?

Also does elecampane have any side effects ?

I do take 1000 mg magnesium and 500 mg calcium to help with my FM symptoms.

Thanks for helping me.

Love,

Deepak

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Kay Siegrist <ksiegr@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Hi Kay,

>

> The test costs about $300. Yes, I do think this protozoa can be handled

> without antibiotics. I know it can. I'm doing it. If you have

> protomyxzoa, a lowfat diet, lumbrokinase, and elecampane may give you

> results. When your morning urine turns brown, you will know elecampane is

> the effective herbal for you. It will take a while. That part varies

> person to person.

[Guest guest]

How does one get this?

Is is related to lyme/tick or insect co-infection?

amy

[Guest guest]

You're welcome Deepak.  The test cost is $300.  In my researching elecampane,

I found no mention of side effects and don't know of any.  I've been taking it

now for 5 months.  This treatment is only effective when one stops magnesium

and calcium supplements.  It's a choice.  Kay 

________________________________

From: Deepak L <deepak0625@...>

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:41 PM

Subject: Re: Protomyxzoa/Dr Fry treatment

 

Dear Kay,

Thanks for the reply.

Would you know how much the test costs for this ?

Also does elecampane have any side effects ?

I do take 1000 mg magnesium and 500 mg calcium to help with my FM symptoms.

Thanks for helping me.

Love,

Deepak

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Kay Siegrist <ksiegr@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> Hi Kay,

>

> The test costs about $300. Yes, I do think this protozoa can be handled

> without antibiotics. I know it can. I'm doing it. If you have

> protomyxzoa, a lowfat diet, lumbrokinase, and elecampane may give you

> results. When your morning urine turns brown, you will know elecampane is

> the effective herbal for you. It will take a while. That part varies

> person to person.

[Guest guest]

The test kit is free if you have them mail it to your doctor. Then it costs $299

to have the blood analyzed. Fry Laboratories charge you for the test kit if they

mail it to your home. I don't know how much that is.

On Jun 22, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Deepak L <deepak0625@...> wrote:

> Dear Kay,

>

> Thanks for the reply.

>

> Would you know how much the test costs for this ?

>

> Also does elecampane have any side effects ?

>

> I do take 1000 mg magnesium and 500 mg calcium to help with my FM symptoms.

>

> Thanks for helping me.

>

> Love,

> Deepak

>

[Guest guest]

Kay,

Could you describe the lowfat diet...especially how much fat (and what kind?)

you are allowed.

Re: Protomyxzoa/Dr Fry treatment

Hi Kay,

Do you think one can tackle this protozoa without antibiotics.

I am in India and dont have access to these doctors who know so much about

these things so i was wondering if you think I could do the lumbrokinase

and the herbal malarial medicine and see if I herx ?

How much does the test for this cost ?

Love,

deepak

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Kay Siegrist <ksiegr@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> I started Dr. Fry's treatment in March 2011, only took antibiotics the

> first 6 months, didn't feel better for those months due to Herxing, and

> believe along with Dr. Fry that the lowfat diet part of his treatment that

> is the most important part. It is the whole of his treatment that makes it

> work. Lumbrokinaise to break down biofilm exposing the protomyxaoa so that

> medicine can reach it, is essential. Then once it's exposed, malarone (in

> my case) to kill it, and the lowfat diet (15 grams/day or less) to starve

> it and help with other CFS symptoms. Earlier this year I got to where I

> could no longer tolerate the malarone. It's an aggressive strong malaria

> drug.

[Guest guest]

{Moderator} Please trim your posts!}

Hi ,

Dr. Fry recommends 15 grams of fat/day or less.  No dairy products to minimize

fat and calcium and only occasional meat.  There are a few meats that have 5

grams of fat or fewer per serving.  I stick to those and have learned that my

digestion is best with only occasional meat. My diet consists of mostly whole

grains, vegetables, and fruits.  Protomyxzoa likes the argenine in wheat, so

reducing wheat, in particular what flour, is also helpful.  Lowfat though is

the most important.

Smoothies make a good breakfast, made with rice milk as it is lowest in fat of

the non-dairy milks.  Also oatmeal.  Regular oatmeal only takes 10 minutes.

 Adding cinnamon to the cooking water, then after cooking, raisins, vanilla,

maple syrup, and rice milk is a staple for me. Salads (no avocado as 1 = 30 fat

grams) with a few garbanzos or other beans and a variety of fresh veggies or

fruit are good.  My favorite fat-free salad dressings are Annie's and Walden

Farms.  Walden Farms Ranch and Honey Mustard dressings are what I often use on

sandwiches like veggie burgers.  I sometimes use grilled portabellos for the

bun.  Yum!  Fantastic brand vegetarian taco filling from the healthfood store

is a staple for me.  I use it with sprouted corn tortias, chopped romaine, and

diced fresh tomatoes to make tacos and use it in spaghetti sauce and chili.

 And instead of saute'ing or stir frying veggies in oil, I start them in tamari

and broth.  Without

fat, I use tamari, bullion, spices, herbs, garlic, ginger, etc. to add flavor.

In the beginning, I went to my healthfood market and supermarket when I had

enough time to cruise the isles reading labels and looking for pantry items,

ingredients, snacks, etc. that were lowfat and low in calcium.  I actually

discovered some things I really like that I wouldn't have otherwise tried.  It

takes some adjustment time but I'm now cooking foods that are delicious and

satisfying.  And every couple weeks, I take myself out for lunch or breakfast

and splurge a bit.    

If you google " food fat content " , there are links listing the fat grams/serving

of many foods.  Hope this helps.

Kay

________________________________

From: jbclem <jbclem1@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: Protomyxzoa/Dr Fry treatment

 

Kay,

Could you describe the lowfat diet...especially how much fat (and what kind?)

you are allowed.

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I'm curious about the brown urine. How did you determine it was the decomposed

parasite ? I would have thought it would have been broken down in the body and

eliminated like many other toxins/products are.

>

> I started Dr. Fry's treatment in March 2011, only took antibiotics the first 6

months, didn't feel better for those months due to Herxing, and believe along

with Dr. Fry that the lowfat diet part of his treatment that is the most

important part.  It is the whole of his treatment that makes it work.

 Lumbrokinaise to break down biofilm exposing the protomyxaoa so that medicine

can reach it, is essential.  Then once it's exposed, malarone (in my case) to

kill it, and the lowfat diet (15 grams/day or less) to starve it and help with

other CFS symptoms.  Earlier this year I got to where I could no longer

tolerate the malarone.  It's an aggressive strong malaria drug.  After web

searching natural anti-malarials, I started taking the herbal elecampane.  It

is effective.  I can tell because my morning urine is brown.  That's the

decomposed protomyxzoa flushing out.