Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 So you're saying in a sense that: N-E-T NOT O-K for DC to TX OCD? ( E. Abrahamson, D.C.) Chiropractic physician Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic 315 Second Street Lake Oswego, OR 97034 503-635-6246 Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com > From: Snell <drpsnell@...> > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:44:52 -0700 > <drscott@...>, < > > Subject: Re: anxiety > > > Hey and Joe, > > I think I read a study in Northwest Brewing News about the hefeweizen > intervention. > > Exposure therapy has the best evidence in tx of anxiety. Hypericum (St. > 's Wort) may be helpful as well, just make sure they aren't concurrently > on an SSRI or you risk seratonin storm. Then refer to a good psychologist > and develop your referral network. > > I haven't seen or heard of any evidence that " adjustments " would be useful > in the treatment of aniety but I would love to hear from others what they > think of that. Excuse me while I move under my desk. I have to laugh as I > think about what may be going on in that patient's mind as they place their > head in the hands of a DC saying " Just relax " as they prepare to thrust on a > rotary break. > > Of note, consider that psychologists often take a dim view of untrained > professionals providing psychological services, much in the way that we may > object to untrained folks providing CMT. Indeed the OBCE apparently feels > similarly as I think I remember seeing in the recent Back Talk about a DC > who was reprimanded for such activities using NET. > > > > W. Snell, D.C. > 3343 SE Hawthorne Blvd. > Portland, OR 97214 > Ph. 503-235-5484 > Fax 503-235-3956 > > > > >> From: Abrahamson <drscott@...> >> " Dr. ph Medlin D.C. " >> <deadmed@...>,< > >> Subject: Re: anxiety >> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:02:07 -0700 >> >> 4 Bottles of Hefeweitzen taken orally will usually reduce anxiety >> substantially. >> It can have the side effect of making you think you are witty, good >> looking, >> and unusually strong. >> Many patients are willing to put up with the side effects. >> >> Seriously though, >> I have a pt. who is a shrink in anxiety specialty at Kaiser. >> (³Hello, you have reached the Kaiser Anxiety Clinic...lookout behind >> you!!!²) >> People call a lot when the temperature goes above 100 degrees. They think >> they will melt or explode. >> They are often told to ³belly breath². >> It is common to find that people who are attached to biosensors are found >> to >> breath poorly when they are anxious. One leads to the other and possibly >> the >> antithesis of of shallow breathing could calm the anxiety. >> The cost is low. >> >> ( E. Abrahamson, D.C.) >> Chiropractic physician >> Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic >> 315 Second Street >> Lake Oswego, OR 97034 >> 503-635-6246 >> Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com >> >> >> >> From: " Dr. ph Medlin D.C. " <deadmed@...> >> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:19:53 -0700 >> < > >> Subject: anxiety >> >> Colleagues, >> any good natural or homeopathic additions to adjustments for addressing >> anxiety??? >> thanks a million >> >> >> Dr. ph Medlin D.C. >> Spine Tree Chiropractic >> 1627 NE Alberta St. #6 >> Portland, OR 97211 >> Ph: 503-788-6800 >> c: 503-889-6204 >> >> >> OregonDCs rules: >> 1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to >> foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve >> members will be tolerated. >> 2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. >> 3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. However, >> it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or >> otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his >> or >> her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 , First of all if you havent noticed any stress reduction properties of your adjustments, I sympathize with you. Possibly your method is a bit more intimidating and stress inducing than most. Not to mention I am adjusting subluxations, not anxiety. Second of all, I'm not providing phychological services. I'm educating (as a physician should) on a condition in which the patient appears with in my office. Of course seeking out a Mental Health Professional is always an option, but not necessarily a necessity. I'm going to watch their progress. Many folks are looking for a natural way to take care of these types of problems. Again, I pity you if you cant' offer your patients any more than a psychological referral for a case of high stress and mild anxiety. I think we owe them much more than that and they wouldn't appear in your office if they didn't WANT something more and different. The case you mention that was on Back Talk, I believe was a case of the DC actually counseling etc. which would absolutely be a psychologists realm. Dr. ph Medlin D.C. Spine Tree Chiropractic 1627 NE Alberta St. #6 Portland, OR 97211 Ph: 503-788-6800 c: 503-889-6204 anxiety >> >> Colleagues, >>any good natural or homeopathic additions to adjustments for addressing >>anxiety??? >>thanks a million >> >> >>Dr. ph Medlin D.C. >>Spine Tree Chiropractic >>1627 NE Alberta St. #6 >>Portland, OR 97211 >>Ph: 503-788-6800 >>c: 503-889-6204 >> >> >>OregonDCs rules: >>1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to >>foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve >>members will be tolerated. >>2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. >>3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. >>However, >>it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or >>otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without his >>or >>her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Thanks, as always, for your pity Joe. W. Snell, D.C. 3343 SE Hawthorne Blvd. Portland, OR 97214 Ph. 503-235-5484 Fax 503-235-3956 >From: " deadmed " <deadmed@...> ><drscott@...>,< >, " >Snell " <drpsnell@...> >Subject: Re: anxiety >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:46:08 -0700 > >, > >First of all if you havent noticed any stress reduction properties of your >adjustments, I sympathize with you. Possibly your method is a bit more >intimidating and stress inducing than most. Not to mention I am adjusting >subluxations, not anxiety. Second of all, I'm not providing phychological >services. I'm educating (as a physician should) on a condition in which the >patient appears with in my office. Of course seeking out a Mental Health >Professional is always an option, but not necessarily a necessity. I'm >going >to watch their progress. Many folks are looking for a natural way to take >care of these types of problems. Again, I pity you if you cant' offer your >patients any more than a psychological referral for a case of high stress >and mild anxiety. I think we owe them much more than that and they wouldn't >appear in your office if they didn't WANT something more and different. >The >case you mention that was on Back Talk, I believe was a case of the DC >actually counseling etc. which would absolutely be a psychologists realm. > >Dr. ph Medlin D.C. >Spine Tree Chiropractic >1627 NE Alberta St. #6 >Portland, OR 97211 >Ph: 503-788-6800 >c: 503-889-6204 > anxiety > >> > >> Colleagues, > >>any good natural or homeopathic additions to adjustments for addressing > >>anxiety??? > >>thanks a million > >> > >> > >>Dr. ph Medlin D.C. > >>Spine Tree Chiropractic > >>1627 NE Alberta St. #6 > >>Portland, OR 97211 > >>Ph: 503-788-6800 > >>c: 503-889-6204 > >> > >> > >>OregonDCs rules: > >>1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to > >>foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve > >>members will be tolerated. > >>2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. > >>3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. > >>However, > >>it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or > >>otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without >his > >>or > >>her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Man...some days I feel more like a psychologist than a chiropractor! (especially around full moon... What, am I the only one?). (:-) R.R. anxiety > > >> > > >> Colleagues, > > >>any good natural or homeopathic additions to adjustments for addressing > > >>anxiety??? > > >>thanks a million > > >> > > >> > > >>Dr. ph Medlin D.C. > > >>Spine Tree Chiropractic > > >>1627 NE Alberta St. #6 > > >>Portland, OR 97211 > > >>Ph: 503-788-6800 > > >>c: 503-889-6204 > > >> > > >> > > >>OregonDCs rules: > > >>1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to > > >>foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve > > >>members will be tolerated. > > >>2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. > > >>3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. > > >>However, > > >>it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or > > >>otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without > >his > > >>or > > >>her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Is that because of other DC’s or your patients? Larry Lubcke Re: anxiety Man...some days I feel more like a psychologist than a chiropractor! (especially around full moon... What, am I the only one?). (:-) R.R. anxiety > > >> > > >> Colleagues, > > >>any good natural or homeopathic additions to adjustments for addressing > > >>anxiety??? > > >>thanks a million > > >> > > >> > > >>Dr. ph Medlin D.C. > > >>Spine Tree Chiropractic > > >>1627 NE Alberta St. #6 > > >>Portland, OR 97211 > > >>Ph: 503-788-6800 > > >>c: 503-889-6204 > > >> > > >> > > >>OregonDCs rules: > > >>1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is to > > >>foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on listserve > > >>members will be tolerated. > > >>2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. > > >>3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. > > >>However, > > >>it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or > > >>otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member without > >his > > >>or > > >>her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Oh I'm so glad to hear some else say that ... seems to me that at least 1/3 of what I do is psychological/cheer-leader based. Just part of the job from my point of view. It's what a health professional does. Sunny Sunny Kierstyn, RN DC Fibromyalgia Care Center of Oregon 56 Oakway Center Eugene, Oregon, 97401 541-683-5600 >From: " s, D.C. " <drbobdc@...> >< > >Subject: Re: anxiety >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 14:45:15 -0700 > >Man...some days I feel more like a psychologist than a chiropractor! >(especially around full moon... What, am I the only one?). (:-) > >R.R. > > > anxiety > > > >> > > > >> Colleagues, > > > >>any good natural or homeopathic additions to adjustments for >addressing > > > >>anxiety??? > > > >>thanks a million > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Dr. ph Medlin D.C. > > > >>Spine Tree Chiropractic > > > >>1627 NE Alberta St. #6 > > > >>Portland, OR 97211 > > > >>Ph: 503-788-6800 > > > >>c: 503-889-6204 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>OregonDCs rules: > > > >>1. Keep correspondence professional; the purpose of the listserve is >to > > > >>foster communication and collegiality. No personal attacks on >listserve > > > >>members will be tolerated. > > > >>2. Always sign your e-mails with your first and last name. > > > >>3. The listserve is not secure; your e-mail could end up anywhere. > > > >>However, > > > >>it is against the rules of the listserve to copy, print, forward, or > > > >>otherwise distribute correspondence written by another member >without > > >his > > > >>or > > > >>her consent, unless all personal identifiers have been removed. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Anxiety control...and Mg++CL liquid...Pain and Stress centers THEY ROCK!!!! 800 669-2256 Dennis Nowack DC > Colleagues, > any good natural or homeopathic additions to adjustments for addressing anxiety??? > thanks a million > > > Dr. ph Medlin D.C. > Spine Tree Chiropractic > 1627 NE Alberta St. #6 > Portland, OR 97211 > Ph: 503-788-6800 > c: 503-889-6204 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 My daughter had night terrors as an infant but seemed to grow out of them before her fevers began. However, her sleep is very disturbed just before a fever I've noticed. Often a bad night's sleep is the first signal that a fever is on the way. Audrey is three next week. --- n2biddy <n2biddy@...> wrote: > I would like to know if anybody notices an increase > in the anxiety > level of their child around the time of the fever > onset...especially > as the child grows older and is more aware of what > is going on with this > sydrome. I would also like to know if there seem to > be any nightmare > or night terrors seemingly associated with the > fevers. My son is > almost seven. He has been diagnosed with > since about the age of > 4. He went without a fever episode from late Sep 05 > to Apr 06 but now > they are back...but with the very scary (to him and > us) nightmares > and night terrors. I have just been wondering if > this is common...? > > ryder > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Hi, My son, 2.8, also suffers from night terrors right before, and during a fever episode. He also can get stuck in sleep too - where he wakes up but is not really awake sometimes for 1/2 hour or longer. When this happens he just cries the whole time. He is still young so I can't really speak to night mares or other things that might be going on. Good Luck, n2biddy <n2biddy@...> wrote: I would like to know if anybody notices an increase in the anxiety level of their child around the time of the fever onset...especially as the child grows older and is more aware of what is going on with this sydrome. I would also like to know if there seem to be any nightmare or night terrors seemingly associated with the fevers. My son is almost seven. He has been diagnosed with since about the age of 4. He went without a fever episode from late Sep 05 to Apr 06 but now they are back...but with the very scary (to him and us) nightmares and night terrors. I have just been wondering if this is common...? ryder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 HI Missy, FOr me, 5 HTP works really good for anxiety. And for Gavin, methionine does. His anxiety was usually a result of high histamines. So that's probably why the methionine was effective. I wonder if the anxiety has anything to do with detox. Have you tried giving activated charcoal an hour before bed to see if this helps calm him down? WHen I am not sure why Gavin's behaviors are off, I give activated charcoal. Goodluck no matter what you try. I hope Drew's better soon! Tami > > Drew is having or should I say has always had anxiety issues. I've > just recently put him on a Low Oxalate Diet and started him on > Kirkman's GABA. These two things have made a difference but his > anxiety is still pretty bad. Does anyone have any suggestions? He > takes 1mg. of Melatonin at bedtime but still has a hard time falling > asleep because of his anxiety. However, he finally is sleeping through > the night thanks to the LOD and GABA. > > He prefers to fall asleep in a sitting position. I'm wondering if > this is due to vestibular problems. Any suggestions? I just worry > that it is wreaking havoc on his spine! > > Thanks! > > Missy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 HI Missy, FOr me, 5 HTP works really good for anxiety. And for Gavin, methionine does. His anxiety was usually a result of high histamines. So that's probably why the methionine was effective. I wonder if the anxiety has anything to do with detox. Have you tried giving activated charcoal an hour before bed to see if this helps calm him down? WHen I am not sure why Gavin's behaviors are off, I give activated charcoal. Goodluck no matter what you try. I hope Drew's better soon! Tami > > Drew is having or should I say has always had anxiety issues. I've > just recently put him on a Low Oxalate Diet and started him on > Kirkman's GABA. These two things have made a difference but his > anxiety is still pretty bad. Does anyone have any suggestions? He > takes 1mg. of Melatonin at bedtime but still has a hard time falling > asleep because of his anxiety. However, he finally is sleeping through > the night thanks to the LOD and GABA. > > He prefers to fall asleep in a sitting position. I'm wondering if > this is due to vestibular problems. Any suggestions? I just worry > that it is wreaking havoc on his spine! > > Thanks! > > Missy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 MIssy, L-Theanine works really well for my sons anxiety. He hasn't had any sleep issues since we totally removed dairy from his diet, but he does have anxiety in school. We tried GABA and it didn't work. He actually had a negative results. So we went with L-Theanine and it's great. On a different path, have you tried a weighted blanket for a few minutes when your child first lays down for sleep? May help to "ground him" and calm him. My son used to love his weighted blanket! Trudy -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Tami WilkenSent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:12 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Anxiety HI Missy,FOr me, 5 HTP works really good for anxiety. And for Gavin, methionine does. His anxiety was usually a result of high histamines. So that's probably why the methionine was effective. I wonder if the anxiety has anything to do with detox. Have you tried giving activated charcoal an hour before bed to see if this helps calm him down? WHen I am not sure why Gavin's behaviors are off, I give activated charcoal. Goodluck no matter what you try. I hope Drew's better soon!Tami>> Drew is having or should I say has always had anxiety issues. I've> just recently put him on a Low Oxalate Diet and started him on> Kirkman's GABA. These two things have made a difference but his> anxiety is still pretty bad. Does anyone have any suggestions? He> takes 1mg. of Melatonin at bedtime but still has a hard time falling> asleep because of his anxiety. However, he finally is sleeping through> the night thanks to the LOD and GABA. > > He prefers to fall asleep in a sitting position. I'm wondering if> this is due to vestibular problems. Any suggestions? I just worry> that it is wreaking havoc on his spine!> > Thanks!> > Missy> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 MIssy, L-Theanine works really well for my sons anxiety. He hasn't had any sleep issues since we totally removed dairy from his diet, but he does have anxiety in school. We tried GABA and it didn't work. He actually had a negative results. So we went with L-Theanine and it's great. On a different path, have you tried a weighted blanket for a few minutes when your child first lays down for sleep? May help to "ground him" and calm him. My son used to love his weighted blanket! Trudy -----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Tami WilkenSent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:12 PMmb12 valtrex Subject: Re: Anxiety HI Missy,FOr me, 5 HTP works really good for anxiety. And for Gavin, methionine does. His anxiety was usually a result of high histamines. So that's probably why the methionine was effective. I wonder if the anxiety has anything to do with detox. Have you tried giving activated charcoal an hour before bed to see if this helps calm him down? WHen I am not sure why Gavin's behaviors are off, I give activated charcoal. Goodluck no matter what you try. I hope Drew's better soon!Tami>> Drew is having or should I say has always had anxiety issues. I've> just recently put him on a Low Oxalate Diet and started him on> Kirkman's GABA. These two things have made a difference but his> anxiety is still pretty bad. Does anyone have any suggestions? He> takes 1mg. of Melatonin at bedtime but still has a hard time falling> asleep because of his anxiety. However, he finally is sleeping through> the night thanks to the LOD and GABA. > > He prefers to fall asleep in a sitting position. I'm wondering if> this is due to vestibular problems. Any suggestions? I just worry> that it is wreaking havoc on his spine!> > Thanks!> > Missy> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I have a son that had a sudden & very severe onset of OCD at 16. His world of friends , school and sports was detroyed. I did everything to help protect him from anymore stress and sadness.He is finishing his 2years of college at home and will go away to college his junior year. I am so worried about him going away to college because he has become so dependent on us to make his world comfortable but he said he wants to try----- He is 25 years old . Take it from one mom who means well but hopefully has not crippled my son's ability to funtion independently. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I have a son that had a sudden & very severe onset of OCD at 16. His world of friends , school and sports was detroyed. I did everything to help protect him from anymore stress and sadness.He is finishing his 2years of college at home and will go away to college his junior year. I am so worried about him going away to college because he has become so dependent on us to make his world comfortable but he said he wants to try----- He is 25 years old . Take it from one mom who means well but hopefully has not crippled my son's ability to funtion independently. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 These are a couple of quotes from the book: If Your Adolexcent Has an Anxiety Disorder: " If something makes you anxious, you don't avoid it because that will just make the anxiety stronger. " This next one is what we are dealing with currently with our almost 19 yod. " Because you care so much about your child, you may also be tempted to become overly protective. It's natural to want to shield your child from things that cause distress. Many teens with GAD are especially good at bringing out the protector in people because they're constantly seeking reassurance that everything is all right. Unfortunately, by " rescuing " your teen from challenging situations, you're really depriving him or her of the chance to confront & overcome fears. Before long, you have a vicious cycle going in which your teen feels anxious, so you come to the rescue which just makes your teen feel more anxious & less self-assured. " Dd, was at a college not quite 2 hours away for the first semester. The cell phone became a life line to her. At least once a day, I was called and we had to discuss all her stresses. Sometimes I had to talk her through a meltdown. I figured she would eventually adjust. No such luck! She did end up finishing the semester but had to come home 3 weeks before it ended and finish from home. She is starting a new college just 30 min from home next week. This week she is away at a camp for their weeklong orientation. I had my first call on Monday, she was telling me everything that wasn't going well for her. Her therapist and I are trying to wean her off depending on me to talk her through everything. I sent off a quick email to her therapist and she told me how to handle the phone calls. One thing I am going to work on is not being quite so available by phone. Her therapist (whom we think the world of and has been with us from the beginning) is really pushing that dd, get more independent now or she is just always going to be dependent. I know she is right!!!! ALSO, regarding the scrupolosity that some have been discussing, this is also a big part of what dd deals with. Well, she is and was at a Christian college, how's that for exposure. This is where she wants to be. Sorry, this is so long! F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hi, . Everything you've said is exactly what the therapist has been saying too. As a Mom, it is exhausting to be their safety net, but I also find it hard to just turn if off. . ALTHOUGH, I know I NEED to for his sake. He's an only child so maybe that makes it worse. I remember when he was young, I kept thinking when he got older he would just outgrow it. And he did, to some degree. He used to not go anywhere without us, and refused to spend the night anywhere, when he was young. He wouldn't even go to other kid's houses to play, unless I could go too. It's only been in the last four years that he's somehow overcome all of that. But, he is still very dependent at 15. I can't wait until we get to this stuff in therapy. . . . Especially the scrupulosity that flares with church. Although that might be a while since we've been financially forced to cut back to once a month now. I want to see how the therapist suggests we deal with this, without causing complete meltdown. I hope your daughter does better closer to home. BJ > > These are a couple of quotes from the book: If Your Adolexcent Has > an Anxiety Disorder: > > " If something makes you anxious, you don't avoid it because that > will just make the anxiety stronger. " > > This next one is what we are dealing with currently with our almost > 19 yod. > " Because you care so much about your child, you may also be > tempted to become overly protective. It's natural to want to shield > your child from things that cause distress. Many teens with GAD > are especially good at bringing out the protector in people because > they're constantly seeking reassurance that everything is all right. > Unfortunately, by " rescuing " your teen from challenging situations, > you're really depriving him or her of the chance to confront & > overcome fears. Before long, you have a vicious cycle going in > which your teen feels anxious, so you come to the rescue which just > makes your teen feel more anxious & less self-assured. " > > Dd, was at a college not quite 2 hours away for the first semester. > The cell phone became a life line to her. At least once a day, I was > called and we had to discuss all her stresses. Sometimes I had to > talk her through a meltdown. I figured she would eventually adjust. > No such luck! She did end up finishing the semester but had to > come home 3 weeks before it ended and finish from home. She is > starting a new college just 30 min from home next week. This week > she is away at a camp for their weeklong orientation. I had my first > call on Monday, she was telling me everything that wasn't going well > for her. Her therapist and I are trying to wean her off depending on > me to talk her through everything. I sent off a quick email to her > therapist and she told me how to handle the phone calls. One thing > I am going to work on is not being quite so available by phone. Her > therapist (whom we think the world of and has been with us from the > beginning) is really pushing that dd, get more independent now or > she is just always going to be dependent. I know she is right!!!! > ALSO, regarding the scrupolosity that some have been discussing, > this is also a big part of what dd deals with. Well, she is and was at > a Christian college, how's that for exposure. This is where she > wants to be. > Sorry, this is so long! > F > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hi, . Everything you've said is exactly what the therapist has been saying too. As a Mom, it is exhausting to be their safety net, but I also find it hard to just turn if off. . ALTHOUGH, I know I NEED to for his sake. He's an only child so maybe that makes it worse. I remember when he was young, I kept thinking when he got older he would just outgrow it. And he did, to some degree. He used to not go anywhere without us, and refused to spend the night anywhere, when he was young. He wouldn't even go to other kid's houses to play, unless I could go too. It's only been in the last four years that he's somehow overcome all of that. But, he is still very dependent at 15. I can't wait until we get to this stuff in therapy. . . . Especially the scrupulosity that flares with church. Although that might be a while since we've been financially forced to cut back to once a month now. I want to see how the therapist suggests we deal with this, without causing complete meltdown. I hope your daughter does better closer to home. BJ > > These are a couple of quotes from the book: If Your Adolexcent Has > an Anxiety Disorder: > > " If something makes you anxious, you don't avoid it because that > will just make the anxiety stronger. " > > This next one is what we are dealing with currently with our almost > 19 yod. > " Because you care so much about your child, you may also be > tempted to become overly protective. It's natural to want to shield > your child from things that cause distress. Many teens with GAD > are especially good at bringing out the protector in people because > they're constantly seeking reassurance that everything is all right. > Unfortunately, by " rescuing " your teen from challenging situations, > you're really depriving him or her of the chance to confront & > overcome fears. Before long, you have a vicious cycle going in > which your teen feels anxious, so you come to the rescue which just > makes your teen feel more anxious & less self-assured. " > > Dd, was at a college not quite 2 hours away for the first semester. > The cell phone became a life line to her. At least once a day, I was > called and we had to discuss all her stresses. Sometimes I had to > talk her through a meltdown. I figured she would eventually adjust. > No such luck! She did end up finishing the semester but had to > come home 3 weeks before it ended and finish from home. She is > starting a new college just 30 min from home next week. This week > she is away at a camp for their weeklong orientation. I had my first > call on Monday, she was telling me everything that wasn't going well > for her. Her therapist and I are trying to wean her off depending on > me to talk her through everything. I sent off a quick email to her > therapist and she told me how to handle the phone calls. One thing > I am going to work on is not being quite so available by phone. Her > therapist (whom we think the world of and has been with us from the > beginning) is really pushing that dd, get more independent now or > she is just always going to be dependent. I know she is right!!!! > ALSO, regarding the scrupolosity that some have been discussing, > this is also a big part of what dd deals with. Well, she is and was at > a Christian college, how's that for exposure. This is where she > wants to be. > Sorry, this is so long! > F > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi, I think the severity of the ocd is best guaged by an informed parent, and you, as an informed parent (not isolated from advice regarding OCD and/or treatment suggestions-and having dealt with this for many years now) are there to help with guidance towards the best opportunities and choices for your son. If anyone tells you you have been overprotective or under assertive whatever (or my pet peeve phrase- co-dependent) they could well be wrong because they may be gjudging by a less severe case of OCD or by just generalized guidelines for OCD ERP etc. We cannot really expect our kids with OCD/spectrums to be on the same time-table as " normal " . OCD is going to interfere with development and independence. If your son wants to try I think that is what every parent with a severely OCD kid is hoping for, so maybe he has you, in part, to thank for supporting him so he could get to that point. I just think we have enough to struggle without always second guessing ourselves and wondering if we have contributed to the OCD or dependence or dysfunction, and don't need others suggesting that. A loving informed parent will try to make the best choices for their child/teen/adult with the knowledge and resources they have available. You can't ask for more really. nancy grace > > I have a son that had a sudden & very severe onset of OCD at 16. His world of > friends , school and sports was detroyed. I did everything to help protect > him from anymore stress and sadness.He is finishing his 2years of college at > home and will go away to college his junior year. I am so worried about him going > away to college because he has become so dependent on us to make his world > comfortable but he said he wants to try----- > He is 25 years old . Take it from one mom who means well but hopefully has > not crippled my son's ability to funtion independently. > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 , Thank you for your kind support and understanding . I really needed to hear your thoughts. If my son doesn't get his foot off of first base he will never get to second base. His maturity level and ability to mange stress and criticism is delayed due to OCD . I pray he will be functional at college. I am thinking if he lives alone and takes only two classes it will be a tremendous boost to his very low self esteem. ( before OCD he played three varsity sports and was an honor student) Thank you, Dana **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 > near time to go home and she started the too loud thing again. I don't think > it's 100% sensory because it comes and goes within the same setting. I know I know someone who is an expert in guns yet used to get scared of thunder. Some sensory issues are different, such as sometimes touching can be worse that getting a knee scraped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Just curious ... is Myah mainstreamed at school? Is she around other DS or MR children her age at all? granny Anxiety > >Hopefully this comes across as the way I intend it to... >Myah struggles with anxiety that keeps her from doing a lot of activities that the family does (basically she stays home). Tonight we went out to dinner (for the first time with Myah in YEARS!) She did pretty well until we were ready to walk into the restaurant (lol) and she said she wanted to go home. I talked her into going in where we were in a back room by ourselves. She was OK, then upset if anyone would laugh out loud. She became so overwhelmed that she put her head in my lap and asked to go home. About 15 minutes later my dad arrived and she sat up, ate and was fine until it was near time to go home and she started the too loud thing again. I don't think it's 100% sensory because it comes and goes within the same setting. I know some of you probably deal with this and I'm wondering what works. Myah has limited speech as compared to many. She was recently diagnosed with diabetes and has started sentences since she started getting insulin, but has some catching up to do. I'm wondering if anyone has given their kids meds to help with this. Of course we are willing to try behavior modification, but some anti-anxiety meds seems like it would help Myah. I have never taken them so of course that's just speculation so I'm hoping someone can enlighten me. > > > Spilios >Mom to Myah 7, DS, Shianne 3, and Isabella 6 mo. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 dear when did the anxiety behaviour start? Is it something that started suddenly (maybe some traumatic event that she hasn't been able to communicate?) Is ist something that might be connected to puberty and hormone levels? There are many reasons for anxiety. I would check them out first before trying medication. Medication is a good thing, but it is important to try to find the reason first. Maybe you can find a good solution without medication. All the best Gundula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 She is not mainstreamed. They even tried to have her on the playground with the rest of the first grade and she just sat in the corner, which is NOT her at all. Usually she's very outgoing-in smaller settings. Spilios Anxiety > >Hopefully this comes across as the way I intend it to... >Myah struggles with anxiety that keeps her from doing a lot of activities that the family does (basically she stays home). Tonight we went out to dinner (for the first time with Myah in YEARS!) She did pretty well until we were ready to walk into the restaurant (lol) and she said she wanted to go home. I talked her into going in where we were in a back room by ourselves. She was OK, then upset if anyone would laugh out loud. She became so overwhelmed that she put her head in my lap and asked to go home. About 15 minutes later my dad arrived and she sat up, ate and was fine until it was near time to go home and she started the too loud thing again. I don't think it's 100% sensory because it comes and goes within the same setting. I know some of you probably deal with this and I'm wondering what works. Myah has limited speech as compared to many. She was recently diagnosed with diabetes and has started sentences since she started getting insulin, but has some catching up to do. I'm wondering if anyone has given their kids meds to help with this. Of course we are willing to try behavior modification, but some anti-anxiety meds seems like it would help Myah. I have never taken them so of course that's just speculation so I'm hoping someone can enlighten me. > > > Spilios >Mom to Myah 7, DS, Shianne 3, and Isabella 6 mo. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 I think she's always had it, but just better able to express it now rather than just throwing a lay on the floor fit. Before she was diagnosed with diabetes we had taken her to every therapist, counselor and doctor in this area trying to get help with her behavior (tantrums and hitting, and so on). We tried charts and chairs and timers. Nothing worked. We then went to a neurologist who diagnosed her with ADHD, OCD and tourettes. She was put on meds and was like a new kid as far as the fits and aggression goes. Well jump six months and she was diagnosed with diabetes. We took her off of the meds because eating needs to be consistent when dealing with insulin which those meds did not allow. Just getting the insulin dramatically improved her behavior so we did not have to put her back on. Now here we are. Now that I'm writing this, maybe it's the OCD that is causing her this feeling? I guess all that I want to keep my mind open to is that I feel like we lost 4 years because we did not want to medicate Myah for her behavior in the past. Once we did, it was great. What I mean by lost 4 years is that her behavior was so bad that we could not take her anywhere and she would beat me up. It was not enjoyable at all. Now, that had subsided for the most part and I don't want to lose more time trying everything things if the root cause could just be helped by a small amount of medication. We are going on our first family vacation in June. I'm worried that she will be absolutely miserable all of the time. I mean she's 7 and never asks to go anywhere outside of her regular school routine with me because I think she knows she won't like it. She has not been to the store with me in about 7-8 months. Maybe there's just something that can be used when needed? All I really want is for her to be a part of the family and not constantly left behind. Thanks for all your input. Spilios Fw: Anxiety dear when did the anxiety behaviour start? Is it something that started suddenly (maybe some traumatic event that she hasn't been able to communicate?) Is ist something that might be connected to puberty and hormone levels? There are many reasons for anxiety. I would check them out first before trying medication. Medication is a good thing, but it is important to try to find the reason first. Maybe you can find a good solution without medication. All the best Gundula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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