Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Kay Siegrist wrote: > A couple of months ago, I posted that I had received the results of lab testing which showed biofilm colonies and a malaria like protazoan that hides within, discovered 2 years ago by Dr. Fry. I have been on his treatment to break down biofilm and knock down this protazoan which he has found in all of his CFS patients, for a little over 3 months. > > The protazoan which was called FL1953 has recently been renamed Protomyxazoa. Since discovering this group of protozoa, Dr. Fry has been a presenter at national and international conferences including Dr. Klinghardt's recent " Beyond Lyme " conference. He owns Fry Laboratory which is used by doctors in the US including Dr. Yasko and 8 other countries. I mention this because should any of you decide you would like get tested for Protomyxazoa and consider his treatment, you can contact his office in sdale, Arizona, 480-483-6550, to learn what doctors in your state or country use his lab and protocol. Why is there no scientific documentation of this two-year-old " discovery " ? Nothing comes up on Google, nor is there a single paper to be found on PubMed. No replication of Fry's work either. (In two years' time, there should be some independent research.) His own lab seems to be the only one that detects this organism. Something does not smell right to me. Jeri <teewinot13@...> @>--->---->-------------------<----<---<@ Dr. Pall's NO/ONOO- Theory/Treatment Discussion Group: TenthParadigmSociety @>----------<---------->-----------------------<----------<----------<@ The Tenth Paradigm - Dr. Pall's Website for CFS/MCS/FM/ETC.: http://www.thetenthparadigm.org @>----------<---------->-----------------------<----------<----------<@ MCS-Florida - For All Chemically Sensitive Floridians MCS-Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 The usual reason for not finding published material on new technologies is that they have been put through the patent process because of potential economic advantages. Given that Fry runs a private lab, I would be surprised if he did not patent his own discoveries long before they came under public scrutiny. That said, patents no longer are designed to inform the public of a particular discovery but to protect commercially relevant information by burying it in reasonably broad claims. Also, certain applications may be withheld from public scrutiny until they are granted so a search may be fruitless. I have searched Fry in both Patent applications and Patents with no success, this does not mean that they aren't there, it just means I have not got the search terms correct. R Re: CFS & Protomyxazoa > Kay Siegrist wrote: > >> A couple of months ago, I posted that I had received the results of lab >> testing which showed biofilm colonies and a malaria like protazoan that >> hides within, discovered 2 years ago by Dr. Fry. I have been on >> his treatment to break down biofilm and knock down this protazoan which >> he has found in all of his CFS patients, for a little over 3 months. >> >> The protazoan which was called FL1953 has recently been renamed >> Protomyxazoa. Since discovering this group of protozoa, Dr. Fry has >> been a presenter at national and international conferences including Dr. >> Klinghardt's recent " Beyond Lyme " conference. He owns Fry Laboratory >> which is used by doctors in the US including Dr. Yasko and 8 other >> countries. I mention this because should any of you decide you would >> like get tested for Protomyxazoa and consider his treatment, you can >> contact his office in sdale, Arizona, 480-483-6550, to learn what >> doctors in your state or country use his lab and protocol. > > Why is there no scientific documentation of this two-year-old > " discovery " ? Nothing comes up on Google, nor is there a single paper to > be found on PubMed. No replication of Fry's work either. (In two > years' time, there should be some independent research.) His own lab > seems to be the only one that detects this organism. Something does not > smell right to me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 I've just found this http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-pro\ tozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0 R > Why is there no scientific documentation of this two-year-old > " discovery " ? Nothing comes up on Google, nor is there a single paper to > be found on PubMed. No replication of Fry's work either. (In two > years' time, there should be some independent research.) His own lab > seems to be the only one that detects this organism. Something does not > smell right to me. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Dr. Klinghart's conference was just this month or last. I understand there will be something written about Dr. Fry's lecture but it isn't out yet. Have you listened to the radio interview yet? I'm interested in feedback from any of you who listen. I think it's great that we all inform each other of new possibilities and discuss them.  You're right. Dr. Fry owns the diagnostic innovation and biotechnology patents on his discoveries. To give you a little history, as a GP, he saw a broad spectrum of diseases. About 19 years ago, he became particularly interested in what could cause a group of diseases including CFS, MS, ALS, and RA to name a few, which had certain similarities. His primary interest was CFS. 10 years ago he bought microscopes, other equipment, and a lab, and started searching. He says he has simply gone where his research led. One of those places was to the discovery of this group of mutant malaria protozoan a little over 2 years ago.  As I understand it, he has spent the last 2 years testing and treating patients, watching results, and updating as he learned more. Learning 6 months ago that these protazoa feed on fat has made a huge difference. He found that a very lowfat diet gets faster results with patients in whom the disease is young, and gets results that weren't there before in his most difficult patients where the biofilm and protazoa are more entrenched. The most important factor in getting people well he feels, is diet. The rest of his treatment includes, enzymes for biofilm breakdown and malaria and antibiotic scrips specific to the bugs he finds and to patient history none of which come from his office. It's not a complicated, expensive, or lengthy treatment compared to many which keep patients on expensive drugs and procedures for life while they don't get well. That may be why other research institutions are not jumping at the chance to test his findings.  He orders a chem panel every 3 months and monthly test to monitor my liver enzymes to make sure my liver is handling the detox. Neither of those are expensive or done by his lab. The initial blood stain tests done by his lab to detect biofilm and protazoa is $295. He waits to do it again until the patient feels better at the end of treatment. He could certainly do his own test in the interum costing insurance companies and patients more and making more himself but doesn't. He says he prefers to keep things sensible.  I find that quite refreshing. If his findings get confirmed and become accepted on a broader scale, owning the patents he does will be a financial advantage. Considering his investment in money, time, and focus, I think he will deserve it if that happens.    In addition to his medical practice, he spends hours upon hours at microscopes, confers with particular doctors around the world, lectures, and runs a foundation to raise funds which when added to his own, helps him continue.  In the last 3 months, he received a private grant and has just begun a study that includes 30 CFS, 30 MS, and 30 ALS patients plus a 300 person control group.  I realized from the beginning of course the possible pitfalls of trusting research, test results, and treatment done by 1 person. I can also see why he may need to do this up to a certain stage on his own if it is going to get done and done right.  And there is enough in his theories and treatment that makes sense to me for me to believe it could actually work. If it's a viable treatment for me it will, if not, it won't. The first 3 months have symptoms and signs that it is certainly doing something. Since I'm breaking down and releasing biofilm and dead bugs, I'm exhausted. The reason I wanted to share the radio show link was so that you could listen and form your own opinions. And so you would know that there is one more possibility on the horizon for us.  Kay            From: Windsor <rwindsor@...> Subject: Re: CFS & Protomyxazoa Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 10:45 PM  I've just found this http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pamcrane/2011/05/19/1-step-blood-test-discovers-pro\ tozoa-under-biofilm-structure?sms_ss=email & at_xt=4dd6203db4259bdf,0 R > Why is there no scientific documentation of this two-year-old > " discovery " ? Nothing comes up on Google, nor is there a single paper to > be found on PubMed. No replication of Fry's work either. (In two > years' time, there should be some independent research.) His own lab > seems to be the only one that detects this organism. Something does not > smell right to me. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 This is fascinating Kay. Please keep us up to date on how you are feeling and responding to the protocol. Thanks for sharing the info about this treatment with us........you never know which of all the many approaches to treating CFS will be the one that works for your particular combo of CFS symptoms and causes so I think its best to share all and everything we try. > > A couple of months ago, I posted that I had received the results of lab testing which showed biofilm colonies and a malaria like protazoan that hides within, discovered 2 years ago by Dr. Fry. I have been on his treatment to break down biofilm and knock down this protazoan which he has found in all of his CFS patients, for a little over 3 months. > > The protazoan which was called FL1953 has recently been renamed Protomyxazoa. Since discovering this group of protozoa, Dr. Fry has been a presenter at national and international conferences including Dr. Klinghardt's recent " Beyond Lyme " conference. He owns Fry Laboratory which is used by doctors in the US including Dr. Yasko and 8 other countries. I mention this because should any of you decide you would like get tested for Protomyxazoa and consider his treatment, you can contact his office in sdale, Arizona, 480-483-6550, to learn what doctors in your state or country use his lab and protocol. > > I listened yesterday to a blogtalkradio.com show where he was interviewed. Googling 1 step blood test discovers protazoa takes you to the link. The show is about Mogollons Disease but because of the underlying pathology similarities between it and CFS, MS, ALS, etc. and Dr. Fry's experience and emphasis on CFS in particular, much of his comentary is about CFS. Fast forwarding 8 minutes into the show is where his interview begins. > > I will know my outcome from this treatment in about 3-5 months. In the meantime, those of you who are interested in his research, hypothesis, treatment, and results to date may find his radio interview interesting and informative. My body's reaction thus far has been what he describes and if after listening to his interview or reading other links, you have questions for me from the patient side, I'll be happy to answer what I can. > > Kay > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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