Re: mopping oxalates/releasing biofilm

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

Very interesting post on the biofilms. What is the protocol that you

are following to treat the biofilms? What products are you taking, when

and how often? I would love to hear more about it.

Yannick

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

I 'm very interested in your treatment.

Just wondering what you are using to break down the biofilm.

Regards,

Mersan

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> Hi Dolores,

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> You mentioned mopping up oxalates.  To recap;  Since calcium and magnesium

form part of biofilm structure, taking either to bind with oxalates and carry

them out of the body probably means we would be creating more biofilm.

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> Before starting Sutherlandia OPC last fall, Dr. Swanepoel recommended the

epsom salts liver/gb cleanse to clear that detox pathway.  To my surprise, I

passed at least 100  greenish grey gallstones, a dozen of 1/2 - 3/4 in.

diameter, and some gall sand.  The 2nd time, I passed 2 bunches of stones held

together with thick slime.  The 3rd time, I was clear.  Although the urine is

where high oxalate levels show, I think clearing any detox pathway helps our

bodies.  Have you considered a bladder cleanse.  Since biofilm leaves the body

in our stool, I'm so glad I got rid of those gallstones.  My poo and the stool

water when I poo is full of mucous since I began breaking down biofilm.  (please

forgive the not so palatable subject matter but I think this is important)  I

have recently released pieces 7-8 inches long that is thicker than kitchen

string with even thicker parts here and there.  The first time it happened, I

picked it up with a

> paper towel and examined it.  I had never seen anything like that come out of

me before.  It is thicker and stronger than regular mucous.  No wonder it clogs

our blood vessels, hides a variety of bugs, causes problems, and takes time to

break down and get rid of.  I don't want to create more of that stuff.  I want

it out of me.  I think it clogging my blood vessels may be at least part of the

cause of the tingling, numbness, hurting, tightness, and other " unexplainable "

sensations in my limbs and elsewhere.  It restricts normal bloodflow.  In the

last month of Dr. Fry's protocal, partiular spots on my arms and legs that had

hurt constantly and a right ankle that felt sprained keeping me from wearing

shoes with a heel, are fine now.  Maybe it's because biofilm no longer is

restricting bloodflow there.  I'm postulating.  What I know for sure though is

that spots that had hurt for years, don't anymore.

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> Now back to releasing oxolates without increasing biofilm.  Dr Usman's

protocal mentions a group of products to mop up oxalates.  www.autismpedia.org. 

Of those I used activated charcoal, specifically liquid Great Plains Bentonite,

1 t. in 8 oz. between meals.  Sip it a bit at a time to avoid a stomach ache. 

And pectin.  That worked for me.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Yannick,  I take Lumbrokinnaise to break down the biofilm, 1/2 hour before

lunch then a malaria med with lunch to kill the protozoa.  And since

magnesium and calcium form part of biofilm structure, I no longer take either. 

Dr. Fry was very clear at my first appointment that if I took either, he could

not get me well.    

 

I think it's very advisable to get tested first to see how much biofilm is in

your blood and which protozoa if any, you have.  I will relay what Dr. Fry told

me.  This biofilm is sticky and the mutant malaria protozoa are hard to

kill.  If a patient has biofilm with protozoa inside, other bacteria, fungi,

and pathogens have become stuck in it as well.  Breaking down the biofilm

releases whatever is within.  It's important when breaking down biofilm, to

simultaneously take the meds to kill specific bugs.  Otherwise one is just

freeing them to move to and inhabit new places.  I have done a lot on my own

but not this.  Individual patient history and test results seem to me, very

important if this is part of your illness.

 

Kay   

 

Hi Kay,

Very interesting post on the biofilms. What is the protocol that you

are following to treat the biofilms? What products are you taking, when

and how often? I would love to hear more about it.

Yannick

[Guest guest]

Interesting...

I'm just about to start a similar protocal. Plus a couple antibiotics as well,

and a product calledInterfase Plus from Klaire labs which is also supposed to

help break down the biofilm.

She didn't mention not taking magnesium and calcium though. Perhaps I'll just

stop that now!

The whole biofilm thing has got me thinking. After drinking from a cup for a day

or so, there's a slimy film on the inside of the cup. I drink reverse osmosis

water, so it seems unlikely that it's something in the water. I wonder if it's

something coming out of me. (yes gross backwash...)

best,

ra

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> Hi Yannick,  I take Lumbrokinnaise to break down the biofilm, 1/2 hour

before lunch then a malaria med with lunch to kill the protozoa.  And since

magnesium and calcium form part of biofilm structure, I no longer take either. 

Dr. Fry was very clear at my first appointment that if I took either, he could

not get me well.    

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> I think it's very advisable to get tested first to see how much biofilm is in

your blood and which protozoa if any, you have.  I will relay what Dr. Fry told

me.  This biofilm is sticky and the mutant malaria protozoa are hard to

kill.  If a patient has biofilm with protozoa inside, other bacteria, fungi,

and pathogens have become stuck in it as well.  Breaking down the biofilm

releases whatever is within.  It's important when breaking down biofilm, to

simultaneously take the meds to kill specific bugs.  Otherwise one is just

freeing them to move to and inhabit new places.  I have done a lot on my own

but not this.  Individual patient history and test results seem to me, very

important if this is part of your illness.

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> Very interesting post on the biofilms. What is the protocol that you

> are following to treat the biofilms? What products are you taking, when

> and how often? I would love to hear more about it.

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[Guest guest]

H Kay

You seem to know a lot about biofilms. Where do they come from? I'm familiar

with the biofilms that form in the nose in people with mold illness. It is

because the immune system isn't working right due to the mold illness. What

other causes of biofilms are there? Also, how did you get mutant malaria

protozoa?

Thanks

Doris

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay

Thanks for the reply.

Just out of curiosity...what else did he give you to take other than

lumbrokinase?

Do you have to go see him at his office or does he do long-distance

consultations and follow-up?

Yannick

[Guest guest]

I did some web searching and found these sites:

DVDs from a Biofilm conference with Dr. Fry as a speaker.

https://www.researchednutritionals.com/store/item.cfm?code=CEDU01 & cat=43

Link to Fry Labs in sdale, AZ

http://www.frylabs.com/

Thanks, Kay, for posting about biofilm. It's interesting and new to me. I plan

to phone Dr. Fry's office about getting tested.

Jan

[Guest guest]

a systemic dentist tested my saliva and said I have 5x the normal biofilms?

amy