Any Dr. Chia Patients Out there Who've Tried Oxymatrine or Equilibrant?

[Guest guest]

I've had CFS for 15 yrs and tested + for Enterovirus on biopsy at Dr. Chia's

lab. I'm about to make an appointment with Dr. Chia to get his input and try

Equilibrant and/or Oxymatrine. I would love to hear from any of Dr. Chia's

patients out there to see what your experience with him and

Oxymatrine/Equilibrant has been like (whether it helped you or not). I would

greatly appreciate your input.

Thanks!

naturefreak

[Guest guest]

Naturefreak...Chia found acute Enterovirus infection in my stomach biopsy ...

went on maximum dose of Oxymatrine for 8 months...no effect...I am a little

concerned about them selling Equilibrant which is considerably more expensive

than Oxymatrine imported from China .. conflict of interest when doctors sell

their own products

Walter

>

> I've had CFS for 15 yrs and tested + for Enterovirus on biopsy at Dr. Chia's

lab. I'm about to make an appointment with Dr. Chia to get his input and try

Equilibrant and/or Oxymatrine. I would love to hear from any of Dr. Chia's

patients out there to see what your experience with him and

Oxymatrine/Equilibrant has been like (whether it helped you or not). I would

greatly appreciate your input.

>

> Thanks!

> naturefreak

>

[Guest guest]

I'm surprised I've had only one response (Thanks Walter!) to my initial post

(see below). Dr. Chia has apparently treated something like 200 patients with

this treatments and reportedly 52% of them improved. Yet so far in my search

I've ben able to identify very few of his patients who've tried it, and only one

who it benefited. Any Chia patients out there I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks!

naturefreak

>

> I've had CFS for 15 yrs and tested + for Enterovirus on biopsy at Dr. Chia's

lab. I'm about to make an appointment with Dr. Chia to get his input and try

Equilibrant and/or Oxymatrine. I would love to hear from any of Dr. Chia's

patients out there to see what your experience with him and

Oxymatrine/Equilibrant has been like (whether it helped you or not). I would

greatly appreciate your input.

>

> Thanks!

> naturefreak

>

[Guest guest]

Naturefreak,

I am also a patient of Dr Chia. I tried oxymatrine, but was unable to

tolerate it. My symptoms are severe as it is. I have been dizzy/lightheaded

every minute of everyday for the last 6 years. The most I was able to work up to

was 2 pills a day. Once I took 3 pills I felt like I was going to die. I am also

blood positive for sackie B4 1:640, every 6 months I get retested and its

definitely chronic. Total time I spent trying oxymatrine was 5 months, but I had

to give up because it was too difficult for me. Dr Chia does sell the

equilibrant, but its only because he has to control its quality. Everyday we

hear of questionable/contaminated products coming out of China, therefore he had

to have it manufactered here in the US under strict quality standards and its

only $45/box of 90 tablets. You have to ask for it at the front desk, he does

not have it up on display like most docs who sell their own stuff. By the way, I

posted his presentation at the NIH up on youtube.com. Just search his name...

Rick

> >

> > I've had CFS for 15 yrs and tested + for Enterovirus on biopsy at Dr. Chia's

lab. I'm about to make an appointment with Dr. Chia to get his input and try

Equilibrant and/or Oxymatrine. I would love to hear from any of Dr. Chia's

patients out there to see what your experience with him and

Oxymatrine/Equilibrant has been like (whether it helped you or not). I would

greatly appreciate your input.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > naturefreak

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi RoosterRick,

Has Dr. Chia started testing that Hep-c antiviral you mentioned

in a past report ?

Thanks,

Al

>

> Naturefreak,

> I am also a patient of Dr Chia. I tried oxymatrine, but was unable to

tolerate it. My symptoms are severe as it is. I have been dizzy/lightheaded

every minute of everyday for the last 6 years. The most I was able to work up to

was 2 pills a day. Once I took 3 pills I felt like I was going to die. I am also

blood positive for sackie B4 1:640, every 6 months I get retested and its

definitely chronic. Total time I spent trying oxymatrine was 5 months, but I had

to give up because it was too difficult for me. Dr Chia does sell the

equilibrant, but its only because he has to control its quality. Everyday we

hear of questionable/contaminated products coming out of China, therefore he had

to have it manufactered here in the US under strict quality standards and its

only $45/box of 90 tablets. You have to ask for it at the front desk, he does

not have it up on display like most docs who sell their own stuff. By the way, I

posted his presentation at the NIH up on youtube.com. Just search his name...

> Rick

[Guest guest]

Naturefreak, you might want to try the Phoenixrising list serve...it looks

pretty active .. maybe not as many people on cfsExperimental anymore ...

> >

> > I've had CFS for 15 yrs and tested + for Enterovirus on biopsy at Dr. Chia's

lab. I'm about to make an appointment with Dr. Chia to get his input and try

Equilibrant and/or Oxymatrine. I would love to hear from any of Dr. Chia's

patients out there to see what your experience with him and

Oxymatrine/Equilibrant has been like (whether it helped you or not). I would

greatly appreciate your input.

> >

> > Thanks!

> > naturefreak

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Im not sure. Next time I see him is in August, then ill know. But I was looking

into it and Hep C is an enterovirus, therefore the new Hep C drug might just

work...

> >

> > Naturefreak,

> > I am also a patient of Dr Chia. I tried oxymatrine, but was unable to

tolerate it. My symptoms are severe as it is. I have been dizzy/lightheaded

every minute of everyday for the last 6 years. The most I was able to work up to

was 2 pills a day. Once I took 3 pills I felt like I was going to die. I am also

blood positive for sackie B4 1:640, every 6 months I get retested and its

definitely chronic. Total time I spent trying oxymatrine was 5 months, but I had

to give up because it was too difficult for me. Dr Chia does sell the

equilibrant, but its only because he has to control its quality. Everyday we

hear of questionable/contaminated products coming out of China, therefore he had

to have it manufactered here in the US under strict quality standards and its

only $45/box of 90 tablets. You have to ask for it at the front desk, he does

not have it up on display like most docs who sell their own stuff. By the way, I

posted his presentation at the NIH up on youtube.com. Just search his name...

> > Rick

>

[Guest guest]

{Moderator: Here is the link to Cort's new forum:

http://aboutmecfs.org.violet.arvixe.com/index.aspx

)

do you have a link for that group? tia,gail

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> > > I've had CFS for 15 yrs and tested + for Enterovirus on biopsy at Dr.

Chia's lab. I'm about to make an appointment with Dr. Chia to get his input and

try Equilibrant and/or Oxymatrine. I would love to hear from any of Dr. Chia's

patients out there to see what your experience with him and

Oxymatrine/Equilibrant has been like (whether it helped you or not). I would

greatly appreciate your input.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > > naturefreak

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Is the new Hep C drug Victrelis/Boceprevir?

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> > > Naturefreak,

> > > I am also a patient of Dr Chia. I tried oxymatrine, but was unable to

tolerate it. My symptoms are severe as it is. I have been dizzy/lightheaded

every minute of everyday for the last 6 years. The most I was able to work up to

was 2 pills a day. Once I took 3 pills I felt like I was going to die. I am also

blood positive for sackie B4 1:640, every 6 months I get retested and its

definitely chronic. Total time I spent trying oxymatrine was 5 months, but I had

to give up because it was too difficult for me. Dr Chia does sell the

equilibrant, but its only because he has to control its quality. Everyday we

hear of questionable/contaminated products coming out of China, therefore he had

to have it manufactered here in the US under strict quality standards and its

only $45/box of 90 tablets. You have to ask for it at the front desk, he does

not have it up on display like most docs who sell their own stuff. By the way, I

posted his presentation at the NIH up on youtube.com. Just search his name...

> > > Rick

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Is the new Hep C drug Victrelis/Boceprevir?

> > >

> > > Naturefreak,

> > > I am also a patient of Dr Chia. I tried oxymatrine, but was unable to

tolerate it. My symptoms are severe as it is. I have been dizzy/lightheaded

every minute of everyday for the last 6 years. The most I was able to work up to

was 2 pills a day. Once I took 3 pills I felt like I was going to die. I am also

blood positive for sackie B4 1:640, every 6 months I get retested and its

definitely chronic. Total time I spent trying oxymatrine was 5 months, but I had

to give up because it was too difficult for me. Dr Chia does sell the

equilibrant, but its only because he has to control its quality. Everyday we

hear of questionable/contaminated products coming out of China, therefore he had

to have it manufactered here in the US under strict quality standards and its

only $45/box of 90 tablets. You have to ask for it at the front desk, he does

not have it up on display like most docs who sell their own stuff. By the way, I

posted his presentation at the NIH up on youtube.com. Just search his name...

> > > Rick

> >

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