Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 Thank you, Gail, and everyone else who had some input on ASD sleep patterns. I like the idea of melatonin and had actually been considering it over the past couple days. Kathy T. > > My ASD son, who is almost fourteen, usually has difficulty settling > down to sleep at 10:00PM. > > It never occured to me that he may not need to be asleep so early. > > Could you elaborate? > > Thanks. > > Kathy T. > > **************Hi Kathy, I am way behind on reading e-mail so I do not > know if anyone mentioned Melatonin or not. For us it has been so great > to get sleep. My 12 year old son has been taking it for 3 years now and > asks for it. It is natural and over the counter and approved by all my > son's Dr.'s(he is on Med's) He takes 1 mg. and asks to go to bed in > about half an hour. If you do an internet search on autism/melatonin you > can read more. Many of our kids do not produce enough melatonin > naturally. It has made a huge difference in our lives..Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 We tried melatonin but were one of the few that didn't have much luck with it. DS would fall asleep easier, and sleep heavier for 2-3 hours, but then he was back up again and awake, moving, talking, etc. I've heard about timed-release melatonin, but I'm not sure of the safety for kids or how it is administered -- getting my 4 yos to take it meant I had to mix it in milk, and big pills were out of the question. Re: sleep Thank you, Gail, and everyone else who had some input on ASD sleep patterns. I like the idea of melatonin and had actually been considering it over the past couple days. Kathy T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 My son as well has done excellant with melatone. He is now fourteen, I startedlast year beginning of school year as I couldn't see how my son was going to make it on six or seven hours of interrupted sleep through the night. So I tried the melatone, I give Clint l/2 tablet crushed of the 3mg. He is asleep the first couple ofmonths withing 20 minutes, now it is within the hour. He sleeps all night ,stays in his bed..which he had never, ever done, and do not see side effectsof drowsines in the morning.. Verla Re: sleep Thank you, Gail, and everyone else who had some input on ASD sleep patterns. I like the idea of melatonin and had actually been considering it over the past couple days. Kathy T.> > My ASD son, who is almost fourteen, usually has difficulty settling > down to sleep at 10:00PM.> > It never occured to me that he may not need to be asleep so early.> > Could you elaborate?> > Thanks.> > Kathy T.> > **************Hi Kathy, I am way behind on reading e-mail so I do not> know if anyone mentioned Melatonin or not. For us it has been so great> to get sleep. My 12 year old son has been taking it for 3 years now and> asks for it. It is natural and over the counter and approved by all my> son's Dr.'s(he is on Med's) He takes 1 mg. and asks to go to bed in> about half an hour. If you do an internet search on autism/melatonin you> can read more. Many of our kids do not produce enough melatonin> naturally. It has made a huge difference in our lives..Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Hi - Has he had any weight gain with it? Thanks, Donna. sleep In a message dated 4/21/05 4:28:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Autism and Aspergers Treatment writes: My ASD son, who is almost fourteen, usually has difficulty settling down to sleep at 10:00PM.It never occured to me that he may not need to be asleep so early *********** My son has always gotten up, has an internal alarm clock inside himself, at 6 or 6:30 AM. He has to have 8-10 hours of sleep to not be irritable. He gets about that, when he gets to bed about 10 at night. He would not get to bed and used to have a rough time falling alseep. We did have him on Clonidine and we have tried Melatonin ( that worked some). He now has taken a smal dose or an Anti-D which he takes at night, and it is called Remeron. Remeron is a semi-- meanly, partly , an SSRI. Anyway, this helps him sleep and is wonderful. in IL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 you wrote: I lay with her. BAD habit but I really don't mind. 30 minutes she's asleep and I can sneak out. She's 9 now! We did this for years and years too. Sometimes she can read and go to sleep. For the last few months she has been sleeping on our floor in a sleeping bag or more recently on the futon in the living room (right next to our bedroom). Bedtime has always taken hours and we have done what we needed to to manage it for everyone. Peggy Peggy Olsen-Missildine, M.Ed, M.S. Mom to Haleigh and Washington Online Instructor Grays Harbor College and Walla Walla Community College ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace. Lennon (1940 - 1980) __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Something happened last nite that was very strange. I went to bed about 10, did some life lift breaths in bed, and nodded off. I woke briefly about 5, strained to see the time, as I couldn't get my eyes open far, and went back to sleep till 8am! I NEVER sleep more than 4 hours at a time..I worked midnite shifts for 31 years and my usual sleep pattern has been sleep 2-3 hours, up for 2-4 hours, back for another nap, and over and over, except the 8 hours I was at work. Never in my life do I remember sleeping 10 hours, not even when sick. I mentioned to Rashelle when I bought the dvds, that I am a very shallow breather..I take in only enough to actually stay alive. Maybe this oxygen really is good for you! ) Deanne Rashelle Haines <rashelle@...> wrote: Hello Pat, It truly is wonderful when you realize that it is oxygen that burns fat, reduces stress tones our muscles and makes us feel just plain good. I love knowing that I can control the way I look and feel so much by just adding some simple, nurturing LifeLift breaths to my day. I would never stop doing LifeLift and I LOVE knowing that you feel the same way. Your energy and enthusiasm is just so wonderful. I look so forward to your messages every day. I am so glad you found LifeLift. Be Healthy and take good care, Rashelle Harness the Powerful Benefits of Oxygen with LifeLift. Oxygen burns fat, tones muscles, reduces stress Be healthier with each breath you take with LifeLift www.oxygenlift.net. LifeLift is the Original Aerobic Breathing Re: Stretch band workout every day Thanks, Rashelle!! I love this Life Lift breathing so much that you wouldn't believe it. Never in my life did I ever consder the fact or the possibility that I could actually BREATHE my excess weight away!!!! NEVER!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Oh Deanne how wonderful for you. I know the feeling of not sleeping; I too work midnights; and with my daily home schedule I seldom get more than a total of 5hours per day of sleep; usually 2 hours in the morning and a couple more in the late afternoon. So many people do sleep better since doing LifeLift. That is a wonderful 'side effect' of oxygen in our bodies. As for me, I think the only thing that will make me stay asleep is a hit on the head! LOL I'm doing my happy dance for you! How rested you must feel. Take care, Wanda. > > Something happened last nite that was very strange. I went to bed about 10, did some life lift breaths in bed, and nodded off. > I woke briefly about 5, strained to see the time, as I couldn't get my eyes open far, and went back to sleep till 8am! > I NEVER sleep more than 4 hours at a time..I worked midnite shifts for 31 years and my usual sleep pattern has been sleep 2-3 hours, up for 2-4 hours, back for another nap, and over and over, except the 8 hours I was at work. > Never in my life do I remember sleeping 10 hours, not even when sick. > I mentioned to Rashelle when I bought the dvds, that I am a very shallow breather..I take in only enough to actually stay alive. > Maybe this oxygen really is good for you! ) > Deanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Hello Deanne, This is so wonderful. Sleep is so important to us for so many reasons. I wrote a whole article on the importance of sleep if you are trying to be healthy and lose weight. This is one of my favorite benefits of doing LifeLift. I have spoken with so many people over the years who say that LifeLift has helped them sleep so much better. I know many people in their 50's and 60's say they can't sleep, yet I sleep like a baby. Thanks for sharing this. I know there are many people who will read this and be helped by your message. There are a lot of sleep deprived people who could benefit so much from doing even 10 or 15 minutes of LifeLift daily. Be Healthy and take good care, Rashelle Harness the Powerful Benefits of Oxygen with LifeLift. Oxygen burns fat, tones muscles, reduces stress Be healthier with each breath you take with LifeLift www.oxygenlift.net. LifeLift is the Original Aerobic Breathing Re: Stretch band workout every day Thanks, Rashelle!! I love this Life Lift breathing so much that you wouldn't believe it. Never in my life did I ever consder the fact or the possibility that I could actually BREATHE my excess weight away!!!! NEVER!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Yes, I think sleep does help not only one's physical state of being but, also the mental & emotional states as well. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Hello Back when I was diagnosed with Congestive Heart Failure in 2001, I wasn't able to sleep at all because my lungs would fill up with blood as soon as I laid down.  The Doctors went on about how there's no cure, blah blah blah, I told them to just get me to the point where I could sleep and I would take care of the rest.  Well, they thought I would be dead within two to five years but I'm still kicking so sleeping does help...Regards,On Sep 25, 2006, at 8:28 AM, Granada Family wrote:Anyone else think that sleep helps you reset?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 That is good natural sleep, not sure about induced .I have terrible nights, the dogs want to go out at 4 am, I put them out and then return to bed, so I am only getting about 5 hours a night , then at 7 am the day starts ! An ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Absolutely. And without it you can spiral down into a hole really quickly. Willow --- Granada Family <robert_g54463@...> wrote: > Anyone else think that sleep helps you reset?? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Hello I've been using a device called a "Sleep Tracker".  It's a consumer version of an actigraph which monitors your movements while you sleep.  The "Sleep Tracker" is basically an alarm that will go off in a window of time if you are moving hence in a light sleep.  When you're in deep sleep, you don't move at all.  The idea is that you're awaken from light sleep gently rather than abruptly from deep sleep.  Seems to work though the controls are a bit bothersome as you have to press and hold a button for a long period of time (that's to avoid accidentally pressing buttons while you sleep).Regards,On Oct 6, 2006, at 7:50 AM, Granada Family wrote:Anyone else have problems with sleepand then you get migraines more so and they are always there so you need to sleep but end up messing up your sleep schedule or something like that due to you end up sleeping some daytime hours, etc. I keep getting told, do not sleep during the day, unless I take a 15 minute cat nap, which I haven't been able to do as yet I totally fall asleep. Any ideas? Granada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I have problems with sleep and bad headaches...it may be the weather change. Marely Granada Family <robert_g54463@...> wrote: Anyone else have problems with sleep and then you get migraines more so and they are always there so you need to sleep but end up messing up your sleep schedule or something like that due to you end up sleeping some daytime hours, etc. I keep getting told, do not sleep during the day, unless I take a 15 minute cat nap, which I haven't been able to do as yet I totally fall asleep. Any ideas? Granada Marely http://www.myspace.com/a_lil_bitter http://360./profile-wyydqJgwRKptNdnAbPNf1UmOi2E-?cq=1 Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Please explain to me how this helps with sleep, etc?? I am confused since I have never heard of it. I've been using a device called a " Sleep Tracker " . It's a consumer version of an actigraph which monitors your movements while you sleep. The " Sleep Tracker " is basically an alarm that will go off in a window of time if you are moving hence in a light sleep. When you're in deep sleep, you don't move at all. The idea is that you're awaken from light sleep gently rather than abruptly from deep sleep. Seems to work though the controls are a bit bothersome as you have to press and hold a button for a long period of time (that's to avoid accidentally pressing buttons while you sleep). Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I didn't think of that. I hope so because i have to get some sleep sometime and work on working this weekend for the first time, thankfully i only have like 2 1/2 hours at first so i can work myself into it. I just hate working with a bad h/a, migraine. g I have problems with sleep and bad headaches...it may be the weather change. Marely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I am the Universal Queen of Insomniacs <grin> and, yes, when I am sleep deprived I tend to have more migraines. I know all the sleep hygeine rules, but I have not been able to make them work for me because of chronic pain, fibromyalgia and other things that regularly interrupt my sleep. It would be great to go to bed at the same time each night and get up at the same time each day and not sleep in the day, but my life just doesn't work that way at this point in time. Willow --- Granada Family <robert_g54463@...> wrote: > Anyone else have problems with sleep > and then you get migraines more so and they are > always there so you need to sleep but end up messing > up your sleep schedule or something like that due to > you end up sleeping some daytime hours, etc. > > I keep getting told, do not sleep during the day, > unless I take a 15 minute cat nap, which I haven't > been able to do as yet I totally fall asleep. > > Any ideas? > Granada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Actually the shocker is their is actually a Dummie book on Sleeping, I was in shock, though that doesn't work always either. G I am the Universal Queen of Insomniacs <grin> and, yes, when I am sleep deprived I tend to have more migraines. I know all the sleep hygeine rules, but I have not been able to make them work for me because of chronic pain, fibromyalgia and other things that regularly interrupt my sleep. It would be great to go to bed at the same time each night and get up at the same time each day and not sleep in the day, but my life just doesn't work that way at this point in time. Willow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Hello It's more of a device to wake you up gently as well as a device to measure how well you slept since you can go through the memory and see the times when you were in light sleep or awake instead of deep sleep.  It's still up to you to keep a decent sleep schedule but this provides you with feedback on how well you're doing.  Having the alarm go off during a light sleep means that waking up is a lot more gentle and that you're not as likely to be groggy when you awake.Regards,On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:09 PM, Granada Family wrote:Please explain to me how this helps with sleep, etc?? I am confused since I have never heard of it.I've been using a device called a "Sleep Tracker". It's a consumer version of an actigraph which monitors your movements while you sleep. The "Sleep Tracker" is basically an alarm that will go off in a window of time if you are moving hence in a light sleep. When you're in deep sleep, you don't move at all. The idea is that you're awaken from light sleep gently rather than abruptly from deep sleep. Seems to work though the controls are a bit bothersome as you have to press and hold a button for a long period of time (that's to avoid accidentally pressing buttons while you sleep).Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 usually a person that wakes up to any noise heard or movement... What does that mean if I am a light sleeper?? "When life's problems seem overwhelming, look around and see what other people are coping with. You may consider yourself fortunate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 What does that mean if I am a light sleeper?? It's more of a device to wake you up gently as well as a device to measure how well you slept since you can go through the memory and see the times when you were in light sleep or awake instead of deep sleep. It's still up to you to keep a decent sleep schedule but this provides you with feedback on how well you're doing. Having the alarm go off during a light sleep means that waking up is a lot more gentle and that you're not as likely to be groggy when you awake. Regards, On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:09 PM, Granada Family wrote: Please explain to me how this helps with sleep, etc?? I am confused since I have never heard of it. I've been using a device called a " Sleep Tracker " . It's a consumer version of an actigraph which monitors your movements while you sleep. The " Sleep Tracker " is basically an alarm that will go off in a window of time if you are moving hence in a light sleep. When you're in deep sleep, you don't move at all. The idea is that you're awaken from light sleep gently rather than abruptly from deep sleep. Seems to work though the controls are a bit bothersome as you have to press and hold a button for a long period of time (that's to avoid accidentally pressing buttons while you sleep). Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Normally that means that I get that in the morning around there. Sometimes in the middle of the night, not normally every night though usually a person that wakes up to any noise heard or movement... What does that mean if I am a light sleeper?? "When life's problems seem overwhelming, look around and see what other people are coping with. You may consider yourself fortunate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 In a message dated 10/8/2006 4:41:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jwang@... writes: It would be better to just google on stages of sleep but there are five stages of sleep and in the deeper ones, you don't move at all. It's pretty much in the first stage that you would move. Everybody cycles through all five stages of sleep, if you believe yourself to be a light sleeper, then it's just that you remember more of the stage 1 periods (most people forget them right away) or you simply have more of them or shorter deep sleep periods but you still have deep sleep cycles. She needs to be tested for sleep apnea. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hello It would be better to just google on stages of sleep but there are five stages of sleep and in the deeper ones, you don't move at all.  It's pretty much in the first stage that you would move.  Everybody cycles through all five stages of sleep, if you believe yourself to be a light sleeper, then it's just that you remember more of the stage 1 periods (most people forget them right away) or you simply have more of them or shorter deep sleep periods but you still have deep sleep cycles.  It's in the deep sleep cycles that your body restores itself.  The sleep tracker will record when it detects movement and calculates an average duration of the inactive periods giving you an idea of how long your deep sleep cycles are, you want them to be 20 minutes or longer.  You will cycle through all the sleep cycles about four to five times in a night and if you are awaken by a slight noise at night, it's just that the noise happened while you were in stage 1 or 2 of one of those cycles.Each stage is characterized by a dominant brain wave, in the deepest sleep, it's called the Delta wave which is about 8 hertz.  There's a tape or CD out there of music designed to be mostly harmonics of the delta wave, the idea being that listening to the tape may help you get to sleep faster and or stay in Delta sleep longer.   I had the cassettes back before CD's were common, it would lull me almost to sleep and then there would be the clack of the tape deck reversing direction to play the other side.  Maybe I should try the CD now.They also have these blindfolds with coloured lights on the inside that are supposed to blink at harmonics of the desired sleep frequencies, the idea being that the visual cortex is a rather large proportion of the brain so it's easier to get the brain into delta waves by some visual stimulation.  These devices usually also plays some sort of music as well.  I suspect that it won't be long before electromagnetic versions of such sleep aids are available, something similar to the Shakti that a former grad student of Dr. Persing sells on the net, of course the Shakti and Dr. Persing's research was all aimed at stimulating unusual experiences, ranging from visitations by angels or ghosts to visitations by aliens.  Recently there was an epileptic patient who accidentally got that part of the brain switched on permanently after some treatments of some kind and she reports a constant presence, that was in the news. Regards,On Oct 7, 2006, at 10:13 PM, Granada Family wrote:What does that mean if I am a light sleeper??It's more of a device to wake you up gently as well as a device to measure how well you slept since you can go through the memory and see the times when you were in light sleep or awake instead of deep sleep. It's still up to you to keep a decent sleep schedule but this provides you with feedback on how well you're doing. Having the alarm go off during a light sleep means that waking up is a lot more gentle and that you're not as likely to be groggy when you awake.Regards,On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:09 PM, Granada Family wrote:Please explain to me how this helps with sleep, etc?? I am confused since Ihave never heard of it.I've been using a device called a "Sleep Tracker". It's a consumer versionof an actigraph which monitors your movements while you sleep. The "SleepTracker" is basically an alarm that will go off in a window of time if youare moving hence in a light sleep. When you're in deep sleep, you don'tmove at all. The idea is that you're awaken from light sleep gently ratherthan abruptly from deep sleep. Seems to work though the controls are a bitbothersome as you have to press and hold a button for a long period of time(that's to avoid accidentally pressing buttons while you sleep).Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 Hi Tiffani, use to get bad stomach aches and diarrhea from all the meds during an episode. A doctor told me to put " Culturelle " in his sippy cup twice a day during his episode. It really seemed to help. You can buy it at any pharmacy over the counter. Go-Gurts in a tube also helped his tummy and also children's gas drops helped at night-time. Other than that...I try and get food in his tummy during the episode. Which is sometimes impossible...right? Lately, he likes peanut butter and jelly on really soft bread during his episodes. He still gets stomach aches but not as severe as in earlier times. also has issues sleeping before the fever hits and after the fever stops. I attribute the sleep issues to him having pain somewhere even though the fevers are gone. Hope that helps! Amy- Mom to -age 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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