Guest guest Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Hi Marcia Have you considered chronic infection? I was am still on the methylation protocol and it helped me but I plateaued I am now addressing Chronic Chlamydia Pneumonia and getting rapid results Steve On Apr 22, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Marcia on wrote: > I'm glad mikem got better with amalgam removal (I am inferring from > the post). > > My own experience is that 2 years ago I spent a lot of money to go to > a holistic dentist who removed all my mercury amalgam fillings, using > the most careful of procedures to limit my exposure to the material as > they were being removed. The dentist then replaced them with composite > material which had been matched to my personal sensitivities, as > determined by blood test. > > Didn't make a bit of difference to my long-term ME/CFS. I'm not really > sorry that I had it done, as it seemed like the logical thing to do at > the time, but I was not one of the people who has been helped by that. > > Just letting you know that experiences (like mileage!) may vary. > > Best wishes, > > Marcia on > in Salem, Massachusetts > > On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:04 AM, delilahsdaddi wrote: > > > I have literally dozens of mercury fillings. When I was 15, I had 12 > > cavities filled with mercury in a 4 week period. > > > > -Steve in PA > > > > > > > > > > > > well after ten years of being bedridden with CFS i'm feeling > > better and will be testifying soon before the FDA about dental > > mercury. an uphill battle to be sure as 90 percent of americans have > > dental mercury and there would be millions upon millions of lawsuits > > if FDA admitted this " crime against humanity " . (someone famous said > > that but can't remember who) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Steve, How are you doing that? Thanks, Ellen > > I am now addressing Chronic Chlamydia Pneumonia and getting rapid > results > > Steve < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Hello Ellen My protocol is as follows Doxycycline 200 mg a day Azithromyacin 250 mg three times a week Flagyl once a week one to 1.5 grams This is just my thing but I may skip a day of antibiotics if I am experiencing kidney pain I also use Pyruvate (which helps to kill Cpn in conjunction with abx) and energy and I use NAC with helps kills Cpn in one of it's forms probiotics too The Flagyl is the strongest of the three that is why it is done once a week but it gets the quickest results I prefer to avoid abx but according to what I have read antibiotics are the only way to kill this infection Some people think Cpn is the underlying cause of CFS Steve On Apr 23, 2011, at 7:37 AM, ellen wrote: > Steve, > > How are you doing that? > > Thanks, > Ellen > >> >> I am now addressing Chronic Chlamydia Pneumonia and getting rapid >> results >> >> Steve < > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Hi Steve, I am sure I have multiple chronic infections. The methylation protocol helped me get 20%-30% better while I was on it, but the expense and the logistics of so many pills was overwhelming (I was on the full Yasko protocol at the time). I've backed off to about 7 or 8 supplements per day at this point. I've seen Dr Klimas in Miami, and she has started me on Imunovir, an Rx which must be purchased from Canada. I definitely feel a reaction to the Imunovir, flu-type symptoms. I can't yet say I'm feeling better though. What does the chronic chlamydia protocol involve? Thanks, Marcia on in Salem, Massachusetts On Apr 22, 2011, at 4:05 PM, S B wrote: > Hi Marcia > > Have you considered chronic infection? > > I was am still on the methylation protocol and it helped me but I > plateaued > > I am now addressing Chronic Chlamydia Pneumonia and getting rapid > results > > Steve > On Apr 22, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Marcia on wrote: > >> I'm glad mikem got better with amalgam removal (I am inferring from >> the post). >> >> My own experience is that 2 years ago I spent a lot of money to go to >> a holistic dentist who removed all my mercury amalgam fillings, using >> the most careful of procedures to limit my exposure to the material >> as >> they were being removed. The dentist then replaced them with >> composite >> material which had been matched to my personal sensitivities, as >> determined by blood test. >> >> Didn't make a bit of difference to my long-term ME/CFS. I'm not >> really >> sorry that I had it done, as it seemed like the logical thing to do >> at >> the time, but I was not one of the people who has been helped by >> that. >> >> Just letting you know that experiences (like mileage!) may vary. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Marcia on >> in Salem, Massachusetts >> >> On Apr 22, 2011, at 9:04 AM, delilahsdaddi wrote: >> >>> I have literally dozens of mercury fillings. When I was 15, I had 12 >>> cavities filled with mercury in a 4 week period. >>> >>> -Steve in PA >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> well after ten years of being bedridden with CFS i'm feeling >>> better and will be testifying soon before the FDA about dental >>> mercury. an uphill battle to be sure as 90 percent of americans have >>> dental mercury and there would be millions upon millions of lawsuits >>> if FDA admitted this " crime against humanity " . (someone famous said >>> that but can't remember who) >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Hi Marcia The Cpn protocol is pretty much what I wrote Different Doctors have a little different combinations of abx It seems to be working Steve On Apr 23, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Marcia on wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I am sure I have multiple chronic infections. > > The methylation protocol helped me get 20%-30% better while I was on > it, but the expense and the logistics of so many pills was > overwhelming (I was on the full Yasko protocol at the time). I've > backed off to about 7 or 8 supplements per day at this point. I've > seen Dr Klimas in Miami, and she has started me on Imunovir, an > Rx which must be purchased from Canada. I definitely feel a reaction > to the Imunovir, flu-type symptoms. I can't yet say I'm feeling better > though. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Thanks for posting your regimen, Steve. You must be working with a doctor on this, as these are Rx's? When you say you are making rapid progress, could you describe your progress? Thanks, M. On Apr 23, 2011, at 1:55 PM, S B wrote: > Hello Ellen > > My protocol is as follows > Doxycycline 200 mg a day > Azithromyacin 250 mg three times a week > Flagyl once a week one to 1.5 grams > This is just my thing but I may skip a day of antibiotics if I am > experiencing kidney pain > > I also use Pyruvate (which helps to kill Cpn in conjunction with abx) > and energy > and I use NAC with helps kills Cpn in one of it's forms > probiotics too > > The Flagyl is the strongest of the three that is why it is done once a > week but it gets the quickest results > > I prefer to avoid abx but according to what I have read antibiotics > are the only way to kill this infection > Some people think Cpn is the underlying cause of CFS > > Steve > > On Apr 23, 2011, at 7:37 AM, ellen wrote: > > > Steve, > > > > How are you doing that? > > > > Thanks, > > Ellen > > > >> > >> I am now addressing Chronic Chlamydia Pneumonia and getting rapid > >> results > >> > >> Steve < > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Each time I pulse ( which is once a week using Flagyl) I feel a marked improvement a couple days after it's over I am ballparking but I probably get 3 to 5% improvement with each pulse I recover from PEM quicker I have more stamina and less cravings for junk food Most people pulse for at least a couple years so I have a way to go Yes I am working with a Doc in Sacramento who specailises in CFS Steve On Apr 23, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Marcia on wrote: > Thanks for posting your regimen, Steve. You must be working with a > doctor on this, as these are Rx's? > > When you say you are making rapid progress, could you describe your > progress? > > Thanks, > > M. > > On Apr 23, 2011, at 1:55 PM, S B wrote: > > > Hello Ellen > > > > My protocol is as follows > > Doxycycline 200 mg a day > > Azithromyacin 250 mg three times a week > > Flagyl once a week one to 1.5 grams > > This is just my thing but I may skip a day of antibiotics if I am > > experiencing kidney pain > > > > I also use Pyruvate (which helps to kill Cpn in conjunction with > abx) > > and energy > > and I use NAC with helps kills Cpn in one of it's forms > > probiotics too > > > > The Flagyl is the strongest of the three that is why it is done > once a > > week but it gets the quickest results > > > > I prefer to avoid abx but according to what I have read antibiotics > > are the only way to kill this infection > > Some people think Cpn is the underlying cause of CFS > > > > Steve > > > > On Apr 23, 2011, at 7:37 AM, ellen wrote: > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > How are you doing that? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Ellen > > > > > >> > > >> I am now addressing Chronic Chlamydia Pneumonia and getting rapid > > >> results > > >> > > >> Steve < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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