Re: off topic/osteoporosis--Simon

[Guest guest]

Simon,

I'm sorry you too have Osteoporosis. I believe my being sedentary is at least

part of the reason why I got it. I've also taken asthma meds. and Neurontin for

years. Nice of the doctors to let you know they could cause this!

Like I said, I've been very sedentary, for years, because of the extreme

exhaustion. Finding out this week that I have Osteoporosis was a wake-up call

for me though. Do I want to risk continuing to lose bone at the rate I am.

No!! I started exercising yesterday. I have a Weslo CardioFit machine. I

hadn't been on it in many years. I forced myself to yesterday. I used it for 5

minutes at the least tension possible. It was a long 5 minutes!! I will

continue to force myself to exercise, to try to build new bone and decrease the

bone loss. If it is possible for you, I encourage you to do some sort of weight

bearing exercise, even if it's walking.

My doctor prescribed Fosamax. I'm not going to take it though. He's also

referring me to the Metabolic Bone Clinic. I'm going to wait to see what my

other options are, before using Fosamax. I'm scared by what I'm reading about

it. Have you heard about the thigh fractures?

Best of luck to you.

Sue

>

> I also have osteoporosis for at least 7 years, I am only 58 now and this is

very unusual for a man. My enforced sedentary lifestyle may be partly

responsible but i suspect that the cfs is the main cause and would recommend a

dexa scan for long term sufferers.

> My Doctor prescribed fosamax which I take, But I also take strontium 4000iu d3

and cal/mag supplements.

> I am concerned that the long term effects of fosamax may leave the bones

brittle following a recent study.

>

> Simon

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue thanks for the reply,

I am aware of the thigh fractures plus other side effects and it worries me

about long term use of these drugs. I must discuss it further with my doctor to

see what he thinks. I would recommend vit d, cal/mag and strontium supplements

in conjunction with your doctor, as I can see no down side from this.

Best to you

Simon

[Guest guest]

There is quite a lot of research on maintaining an alkaline system

balance to keep calcium in the bones rather than leaching it out to

balance an acidic system. I've been trying this for about a month, not

easy for the standard American diet, though. 80% fruits vegetables

seeds nuts. 20% meat or carbs. Check out Vivian Goldschmidt

saveourbones.com as just one of many. Not recommending her, but there

are lists of alkaline diet items on the net.

Exercise isn't an option for me, and i don't tolerate the drugs, so this

is my main focus.

Good luck!

> (snip))

>

> My doctor prescribed Fosamax. I'm not going to take it though. He's

> also referring me to the Metabolic Bone Clinic. I'm going to wait to

> see what my other options are, before using Fosamax. I'm scared by

> what I'm reading about it. Have you heard about the thigh fractures?

>

> Best of luck to you.

>

> Sue

>

>

[Guest guest]

" sb2boys " <sb2boys@...> wrote:

> I'm sorry you too have Osteoporosis. I believe my being

> sedentary is at least part of the reason why I got it.

> I've also taken asthma meds. and Neurontin for years.

> Nice of the doctors to let you know they could cause this!

>

> Like I said, I've been very sedentary, for years, because

> of the extreme exhaustion.

Much depends on the person's weight. Being heavier is, in effect,

weight bearing exercise. It's probably good to be 10-20%

heavier from perimeno onward vs. the usually lighter weight

of the younger adult. This tends to happen naturally after

menopause.

Asthma meds are often steroids, which deplete bone and muscle.

This is one reason I'm down on the use of HC and other

corticosteroids for adrenal fatigue, but would rather build

up the system from within indirectly with vitamins and

chinese medicine (which btw also addresses bones). Hormones

and TCM factors play a large role in energy, bones, functionality

and outlook.

Carol W.

willis_protocols

[Guest guest]

Strontium competes with calcium for the same bone receptors, so

although Dr. does recommend its use, it may have no

better effect than the fosamax type drugs, merely filling in the outer

layer of bone making it denser, and thus more brittle. Same way fosamax

works. However, I'm not sure...have used it and stopped but may begin

again.

As well as calcium and magnesium, the bones need boron (about 3 mg),

some manganese and zinc, but mostly vitamin K2 helps absorption

This would all be more interesting if it were merely academic and not

vitally important to our health. (smile)

J.

On 12/12/2010 8:00 PM, Simon wrote:

>

>

> Hi Sue thanks for the reply,

>

> I am aware of the thigh fractures plus other side effects and it

> worries me about long term use of these drugs. I must discuss it

> further with my doctor to see what he thinks. I would recommend vit d,

> cal/mag and strontium supplements in conjunction with your doctor, as

> I can see no down side from this.

>

> Best to you

>

> Simon

>

>

[Guest guest]

JL <jlynch@...> wrote:

>

> There is quite a lot of research on maintaining an

> alkaline system balance to keep calcium in the bones

> rather than leaching it out to balance an acidic system.

Hard water and calcium are both very alkaline.

Carol W.

[Guest guest]

My mom has been on Fosamax for years and was recently switched to Boniva. I

don't think she should be on either but I can't convince her otherwise. Her endo

put her on Vit D3 (not enough so I asked her to increase to 4,000 -5,000 units

daily.

Doing a bit of research, I found that I like Jarrow Bone Up. It seems to have

the ingredients that you mention (not enough D3 but she is supplementing the

remaining 4000 units. I will look into strontium/calcium. I didn't know that

they competed for the same receptors. Thanks for that info.

I have my son (21) on this as well since he has various allergies and is not

eating a balanced diet (college cafeteria).

I will start on it when finances allow as a preventative (last bone scan showed

excellent results but that was ten years ago).

Marti

> >

> >

> > Hi Sue thanks for the reply,

> >

> > I am aware of the thigh fractures plus other side effects and it

> > worries me about long term use of these drugs. I must discuss it

> > further with my doctor to see what he thinks. I would recommend vit d,

> > cal/mag and strontium supplements in conjunction with your doctor, as

> > I can see no down side from this.

> >

> > Best to you

> >

> > Simon

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> the bones need boron (about 3 mg)

Boron especially at 3 mg is estrogenic and that's probably why

it's helpful in bone density, but taking anything estrogenic

by itself and without testing + a natural protesterone balance

is very questionable longterm, and for many women even short-term

due to estrogen-excess symptoms.

And men don't want the extra estrogen.

[Ref: my article " dexa " at url below]

Carol W.

willis_protocols

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