Re: Re: Metagenics Mitochondrial Resucitate.. anyone tried?

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Hey

Below this post I put the basic ingredients for NT Factor. The link under it

has more detail. I want to clarify a bit, but will try to be brief. I know

it's hard getting past the first few sentences, let alone following links when

your so damn sick. It rips my heart & I wish you and everyone else speedy

recoveries. My I's....

I hope I'm not being misleading, NT Factor was NOT my cure all, it just helped

towards the end of a phased recovery.

I basically treated myself in this order:

1) Viruses / 1 month

2) Brief detox / 1 week

3) Methylation cycle / 4 diligent months

4) Lyme, fungus, parasites and other unknown infections/infestations / about 5

diligent months

5) Began exercise / 1 month graded, next month was full steam

6) On maintenance doses for all of the above, ready to go back to work

7) Blew out my back and live on prednisone!

NT Factor came between 3 & 4, and was helpful to get through the infectious

treatments. BUT, I HIGHLY doubt that it would have done any real good unless I

had treated viruses and my methylation cycle first. That'd been like trying to

fix a car's engine while locked in the trunk.

Since genetics are only treatable with Cheney's buffalo genes, I blame viruses

for everything. They started too much oxidative stress that caused my

methylation cycle to partially block when I was 5 years old, some call it ME, FM

or CFS etc., whatever. Viruses and their damage account for 9 months out of

every year of my life being miserable. I say kill 'em all, but antivirals side

effects kill quality of life. We don't know any better when we're severely ill,

but once better, a few days of an antiviral will have you calling Social

Security for an appointment. Gradually introducing stuff like lysine, inosine

etc...then building up to a strong maintenance dose seems to do well. I did

initially slam the viruses for a month Rx. I just prefer persistent antiviral

treatment with supplements now.

Without treating the methylation cycle, I could have never moved on successfully

It would have made every treatment or supplement like a one-legged chair. Once

the viruses were quelled & my methylation cycle started unblocking, the rest

came hard earned and by Faith, but was then possible.

Info below and best wishes, R

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Basic NT Factor, 2 Tablets info

Vitamin E: 20 IU

Calcium: 160 mg

Phosporous: 50 mg

Magnesium: 50 mg

Alpha-Ketoglutaric: Acid 120 mg

L-Carnipur, L-Carnitine, L-Tartrate: 90mg

L-Tyronsine: 60 mg

Pantethine: 50 mg

Sulfur: 11.15 mg

NT Factor: 1,350 mg (proprietary ingredient)

On this link, towards the bottom is the nutritional info in more detail:

http://www.ntfactor.com/our-brands/buy-nt-factor/

From: csharpham

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:04 PM

Subject: Re: Metagenics Mitochondrial Resucitate.. anyone

tried?

Hi . Interesting! Would be worth trying. I am however sensitive to certain

B vitamins, and can only tolerate them in very small doses - say 5-10mg without

getting a big headache. Therefore I only take B complex every 3rd day or so,

which helps avoid the headache but does give benefit.

Awesome that its benefited you so much! Im about 90% bedbound at the moment, due

to my adrenals crashing totally late 08. Its taken over a YEAR just to get some

minimal function back - i can finally cook most nights, which is still an

effort, do light cleaning now and then, and work a bit late at nite on various

things. All day though I have my eyes shut and cannot do anything, very

frustrating. I dont process drugs well at all (very poor liver detox), but need

HC to live, therefore im in a bit of a situation unfortunately.

In all that info (which im too tired to read all of right now, but will!) I

couldnt find a list of ingredients WITH amounts.. i clicked on some other NT

factor advanced but it doesnt seem like the same formula? No phos chol etc. Can

you point me to a link to the specific product with the nutritional info etc?

Cheers, Chris.

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> I haven't tried that Metagenics product, but see similarities to NT Factor, in

that it's intended to reduce mitochondrial oxidative damage. I have taken NT

Factor intermittently for the past 9 months. Initial reaction was like speed,

which cranked me to crash in a few days. Starting the NT Factor over, slowly, I

was able to get my butt moving a lot better after a few weeks. After 3 months,

combined with exercise I stopped the NT Factor and noticed no difference, but

was in excellent health. Then I resumed it and noticed more stable energy levels

and maintained it at three a day until a recent unrelated adrenal/thyroid crash.

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> NT Factor runs me $30 a for #90 w/ their auto-ship every three weeks. I take 2

to 3 a day (normally) so it piles up and I stopped the shipping for a while

until I worked through the remainder.

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> http://www.ntfactor.com/our-science/mitochondrial-function/ has some more

specific info &

http://www.ntfactor.com/our-science/mitochondrial-function-and-supplements/ is

more general.

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> HTH,

> R

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> From: csharpham

> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:52 PM

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> This I think is a newish product from Metaganics. Ive read about all these

ingredients for mito function and tried most of them separately. Some with good

and not so good results.

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> This formula however may work better in combination? i tend to trust

metagenics for high quality being practitioner products, they often work better

than others.

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> It's an expensive supp but im considering trying it. Anyone else tried it yet?

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http://www.metadocs.com/PDF/dr_brochures/MET807%20Mitochondrial%20Res%20Dr%20Bro\

chure.pdf

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> Chris.

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