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- EFA's (Essential Fatty Acids), which are in unrefined, unfiltered,

cold-pressed vegetable oils (like Udo's oil), and which contain 9 calories

per gram, are used by our bodies for structural, hormonal and electrical

functions, rather than energy. Sometimes, at higher amounts, these EFA's

can actually INCREASE the body's metabolism, and thereby increase the fat

burn-off that results in weight loss. THESE ARE THE FATS THAT CAN HELP YOU

BECOME SLIM. They also keep you satisfied longer helping with cravings.

Pam

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> Thanks for the answer . How does the oil help with cravings?

> That's a definite plus.

> > > > Only take 1 tbsp per day. The 17oz bottle I have says that a

> serving

> > > > size is 1 tbs and there are 34 servings per container. That

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> > > > bottle usually lasts about 6 weeks, so an 8.5oz bottle would

> probably

> > > > be a little under 3 weeks (17 days of 1 tbsp).

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Hi Pam, after posting that question last night, I visited the Udo's

website, and was surpised at the benefits of this oil. I'm glad I

decided to take it. :)

> > > > > Only take 1 tbsp per day. The 17oz bottle I have says that

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> > > > > size is 1 tbs and there are 34 servings per container.

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I take 1 tablespoon of oil in the morning, and then I use the ground one

teaspoon of flaxseed on my vegetables for my lunch and dinner. So I

actually use it for 3 meals. Maybe it is all in my head since reading the

multitude of benefits, but I swear my skin looks better, who knows!

Pam

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> Hi Pam, after posting that question last night, I visited the Udo's

> website, and was surpised at the benefits of this oil. I'm glad I

> decided to take it. :)

> > > > > > Only take 1 tbsp per day. The 17oz bottle I have says that

> a

> > > serving

> > > > > > size is 1 tbs and there are 34 servings per container.

> That

> > > size

> > > > > > bottle usually lasts about 6 weeks, so an 8.5oz bottle

> would

> > > probably

> > > > > > be a little under 3 weeks (17 days of 1 tbsp).

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Hi I have been reaading some old threads on experimental...I am so confused on

the essential fatty acids thing...people say you gotta get the right combo of

omega 3 and omega 6 becuase omega 3 can block omega 6??!!!!!!

I was considering trying udos oil particularly becuase it seems a complete mix

with omega 9 too...

here is the ratio from the UDO website:

Udo's Choice® Ultimate Oil Blend is carefully formulated to contain a 2:1:1

ratio of Omega 3, 6 & 9 fatty acids, the ideal balance for today's low fat and

Omega 3 deficient diets.

but I cannot work out if this is the right mix for cfs/me people

I just want one single supplement to take to get my oils I dont want to take a

complicated cocktail...is the general consensus that udo's oil is good?

cheers jim

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Most people are going to get enough omega 6s in diet, even

too much. Omega 9s are in olive oil, which most people already use

in cooking. Supplementing Plain fish oil for omega 3s is

simple, practical, inexpensive.

Carol W.

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> Hi I have been reaading some old threads on experimental...I am so confused on

the essential fatty acids thing...people say you gotta get the right combo of

omega 3 and omega 6 becuase omega 3 can block omega 6??!!!!!!

> I was considering trying udos oil particularly becuase it seems a complete mix

with omega 9 too...

> here is the ratio from the UDO website:

>

> Udo's Choice® Ultimate Oil Blend is carefully formulated to contain a 2:1:1

ratio of Omega 3, 6 & 9 fatty acids, the ideal balance for today's low fat and

Omega 3 deficient diets.

>

> but I cannot work out if this is the right mix for cfs/me people

> I just want one single supplement to take to get my oils I dont want to take a

complicated cocktail...is the general consensus that udo's oil is good?

> cheers jim

>

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> one thing which this threw up though (just to add to the confusion) is Udo's

oil says it contains omega 3, 6 and 9 in a ratio 2.1.1 and the hemp oil bottle

says " hemp seed oil is renowned for having the perfect balance of omega oils for

the body " but whats wierd is it gives a break down of the content as 18% omega

3, 60% omega6, 3% GLA and 11% omega 9...I am not great at maths but those

percentages completely different to the Udo's 2.1.1 mix. interestingly both

claim to be the perfect balance!

You really should read up about oils. People eat way too much Omega 6

oils (corn, soy, etc.). They cause health problems. Omega 3 fatty

acids from fish are the most important of the oils. Plant Omega 3s are

not the same.

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hi thanks for your reply, I am trying to find good basic guidelines to follow,

hence trying the hemp oil and the Udo's becuase both claim to be " complete

formulas " ...on the fish oul front the reason I stopped fish oil was I was

getting a little worried about the possible heavy metal/mercury issue with fish,

as we often hear we have to limit our weekly intake of tuna for example, also I

have been chelating metals out for a year now after being found to have some

high levels. I guess I stopped the fish oil for this reason...becuase in my lay

mans thinking I figured fish oil is concentrated so perhaps the metal risk might

be higher...maybe the companys screen for metals?! but I wasnt sure..hence my

attempt to find the oils in vegetable form...

many thanks JIM

>

> > one thing which this threw up though (just to add to the confusion) is Udo's

oil says it contains omega 3, 6 and 9 in a ratio 2.1.1 and the hemp oil bottle

says " hemp seed oil is renowned for having the perfect balance of omega oils for

the body " but whats wierd is it gives a break down of the content as 18% omega

3, 60% omega6, 3% GLA and 11% omega 9...I am not great at maths but those

percentages completely different to the Udo's 2.1.1 mix. interestingly both

claim to be the perfect balance!

>

> You really should read up about oils. People eat way too much Omega 6

> oils (corn, soy, etc.). They cause health problems. Omega 3 fatty

> acids from fish are the most important of the oils. Plant Omega 3s are

> not the same.

>

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> hi thanks for your reply, I am trying to find good basic guidelines to follow,

hence trying the hemp oil and the Udo's becuase both claim to be " complete

formulas " ...on the fish oul front the reason I stopped fish oil was I was

getting a little worried about the possible heavy metal/mercury issue with fish,

as we often hear we have to limit our weekly intake of tuna for example, also I

have been chelating metals out for a year now after being found to have some

high levels. I guess I stopped the fish oil for this reason...becuase in my lay

mans thinking I figured fish oil is concentrated so perhaps the metal risk might

be higher...maybe the companys screen for metals?! but I wasnt sure..hence my

attempt to find the oils in vegetable form...

> many thanks JIM

Just remember that when it comes to supplements, anyone can claim

anything they want to claim. It's up to *you* to find out the truth.

You have a far better chance of getting what you pay for if you go with

well-known, certified companies.

You should never buy any fish oil that isn't free of PCBs, lead,

mercury, etc. That's why you need to do your homework instead of buying

just any old thing you happen to stumble across.

It's important to get DHA and EPA. You get those from fish oils. Olive

oil is also important. Buy good (not cheap) cold-pressed extra virgin

olive oil and use it in your food instead of butter or margarine. Flax

oil is also good to take.

Stay away from corn, soy, canola, sunflower, safflower, and cottonseed oils.

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> There are no heavy metals in Fish Oils; the metals are chelated out druing

manufacture and filtering and extraction of the fish oils; a.

That is not true. I have read testing that was done on various fish

oils that did find heavy metal contamination, along with PCBs.

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i guess as a CFS/ME community we need to somehow find a way of getting a list of

companies that do screen for these toxic substances, I guess as sufferers we

need a " safe list " of products that have measaures in place to prevent

contamination...this could be a mission for one of the CFS/ME charities???

cheers JIM

>

> > There are no heavy metals in Fish Oils; the metals are chelated out druing

manufacture and filtering and extraction of the fish oils; a.

>

> That is not true. I have read testing that was done on various fish

> oils that did find heavy metal contamination, along with PCBs.

>

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Nordic Naturals Fish Oils claim to be free of contaminents; I listen to the

president of Noridc naturals on the radio quite often; thx. a.

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> > > There are no heavy metals in Fish Oils; the metals are chelated out druing

manufacture and filtering and extraction of the fish oils; a.

> >

> > That is not true. I have read testing that was done on various fish

> > oils that did find heavy metal contamination, along with PCBs.

> >

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Hi Jim,

Well, one thing we know about Udo's oil is that it is fresh. He goes to great

lengths to keep it from going rancid during the manufacturing and marketing

stages.

Omega 3s and 6s go rancid easily. I take a brand of fish oil that has lots of

antioxidants in it to keep it fresh. It's also made from tiny fish, which are

less likely to contain mercury than bigger fish.

The amount of Omega 3s and 6s that each person needs can very. It depends partly

on how much of each you normally eat in your diet and how well your body does at

converting the EFAs in food into the super long chain fatty acids that it needs

to use as building blocks.

People do need more Omega 6s than Omega 3s, but it's much easier to eat the

Omega 6s in everyday foods. Udo is probably assuming that most of his customers

eat lots of Omega 6s, so they need more Omega 3s in their supplement.

The thing about people with CFS is that we are often low on the enzymes that are

needed to convert EFAs into the very long chain forms. So for example, I eat

plenty of Omega 6s, but I feel better if I take some Evening Primrose Oil, which

has Omega 6s that are already in very long chain form. That saves my body some

work.

So I would suggest trying different oils and different proportions of Omega 3s

and 6s and finding out what makes you feel the best. It can take some

experimenting to figure out what is best for you.

One other note: if you have low thyroid function, flax seed oil can be hard on

your thyroid and decrease your thyroid function further. You may want to avoid

it.

Forebearance

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> Hi I have been reaading some old threads on experimental...I am so confused on

the essential fatty acids thing...people say you gotta get the right combo of

omega 3 and omega 6 becuase omega 3 can block omega 6??!!!!!!

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<< if you have low thyroid function, flax seed oil can be hard on your thyroid

and decrease your thyroid function further>>

 

is this true for all omega 3 or just flax seed and why is this, that is why is

flax seed hard on thyroid assuming you have low thyroid function

 

thanks

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Subject: Re: UDO's OIL

Received: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 11:22 PM

Hi Jim,

Well, one thing we know about Udo's oil is that it is fresh. He goes to great

lengths to keep it from going rancid during the manufacturing and marketing

stages.

Omega 3s and 6s go rancid easily. I take a brand of fish oil that has lots of

antioxidants in it to keep it fresh. It's also made from tiny fish, which are

less likely to contain mercury than bigger fish.

The amount of Omega 3s and 6s that each person needs can very. It depends partly

on how much of each you normally eat in your diet and how well your body does at

converting the EFAs in food into the super long chain fatty acids that it needs

to use as building blocks.

People do need more Omega 6s than Omega 3s, but it's much easier to eat the

Omega 6s in everyday foods. Udo is probably assuming that most of his customers

eat lots of Omega 6s, so they need more Omega 3s in their supplement.

The thing about people with CFS is that we are often low on the enzymes that are

needed to convert EFAs into the very long chain forms. So for example, I eat

plenty of Omega 6s, but I feel better if I take some Evening Primrose Oil, which

has Omega 6s that are already in very long chain form. That saves my body some

work.

So I would suggest trying different oils and different proportions of Omega 3s

and 6s and finding out what makes you feel the best. It can take some

experimenting to figure out what is best for you.

One other note: if you have low thyroid function, flax seed oil can be hard on

your thyroid and decrease your thyroid function further. You may want to avoid

it.

Forebearance

>

> Hi I have been reaading some old threads on experimental. ..I am so confused

on the essential fatty acids thing...people say you gotta get the right combo of

omega 3 and omega 6 becuase omega 3 can block omega 6??!!!!!!

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hello; thanks for the info; I copied the ingredients in Udo's Oil: I bleeive

essential fatty acids are the missing link in man's diet; thx.

Where do we get Undamaged Essential Fats?

Oils made with health in mind come from organically grown seeds. They are

pressed under protection from heat, light, and oxygen; packaged in tightly

sealed brown glass bottles; placed in a light-excluding box; and stored in the

fridge. Oils made with this care - the highest possible quality - are mostly

found in health food stores and naturopathic physician offices, although some

department stores and specialty stores are now also servicing their customers.

Udo's Choice 3, 6, 9 Oil Blend Ingredients: (Click for new DHA OIL BLEND)

organic flax seed oil;

organic sunflower seed oil;

organic sesame seed oil;

rice and oat germ oils;

organic coconut oil;

organic evening primrose oil;

lecithin (guaranteed GMO-free);

vitamin E;

antioxidants (tocotrienols); and

rosemary oil.

Naturally Occurring " Minor Ingredients " :

65mg of phytosterols/tablespoon (lower cholesterol and normalize immune

function);

lignans (beneficial phytoestrogens from flax);

carotene; and

tocotrienols and other seed specific antioxidants.

hundreds of other oil-soluble, health-benefiting phytonutrients

> >

> > Hi I have been reaading some old threads on experimental...I am so confused

on the essential fatty acids thing...people say you gotta get the right combo of

omega 3 and omega 6 becuase omega 3 can block omega 6??!!!!!!

>

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Hi ,

I think it is the lignans in flax seed oil that are hard on the thyroid.

Other types of Omega 3 oils, like fish oil, don't have them. I take lots of fish

oil with no problems.

Forebearance

>

> << if you have low thyroid function, flax seed oil can be hard on your thyroid

and decrease your thyroid function further>>

>  

> is this true for all omega 3 or just flax seed and why is this, that is why is

flax seed hard on thyroid assuming you have low thyroid function

>  

> thanks

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I think the Flax Seed Oil is for vegetarians who cannot use Fish Oil; I

have heard Flax Seed Lingans help prevent breast and prostate

infalammations; here is Udo's DHA Oil from algae;vegan

> >

> > << if you have low thyroid function, flax seed oil can be hard on

your thyroid and decrease your thyroid function further>>

> >

> > is this true for all omega 3 or just flax seed and why is this, that

is why is flax seed hard on thyroid assuming you have low thyroid

function

> >

> > thanks

> >

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I second Nat's concerns. I took Udo's blend for about 8 months (sometimes every

day). The tinnitus in my ears got worse, my hair started falling out big time,

and even more telling, the hair loss decreased big time after I stopped taking

the oil.

I also found a website where someone complained that her hair loss started

within days of taking flax oil. There were over 100 replies, with 80-90 percent

of people saying the same thing. It could be the lectins or lignans in the

flax, or just the imbalance, I don't know, but I've stopped it for good.

It's important to get a fatty acid blood test if possible. I haven't been able

to afford it yet, but it's on my list when I win the lotto.

Dan

p.s. According to the Weston Price Foundation, EFA's won't work unless one is

eating enough saturated fats as well...provided they're from grass-fed animals.

>

> I took UDO oil for years including flaxseed oil and it was a complete waste of

money. My RBC Fatty Acid Test was the proof, read my earlier message.

>

> EPA's are the most susceptible to being depleted during oxidative stress

> and your best supplement for this is high quality Fish Oils.

>

> I also include Hempseed oil and a small amount of Organic Borage oil in my

diet.

>

> I'm not sure where Dr.Cheney is coming from with this.

>

> Nat

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Awhile back, I listened to a Dr Wong. His lectures are available online. he

believes that flax in particular, along with a long list of other things,

disrupts the hormone balance, decreasing androgens and increasing estrogens.

This in turn may cause hair loss and other

" estrogenic " changes to our bodies. Interesting...check it out....Deb

> >

> > I took UDO oil for years including flaxseed oil and it was a complete waste

of money. My RBC Fatty Acid Test was the proof, read my earlier message.

> >

> > EPA's are the most susceptible to being depleted during oxidative stress

> > and your best supplement for this is high quality Fish Oils.

> >

> > I also include Hempseed oil and a small amount of Organic Borage oil in my

diet.

> >

> > I'm not sure where Dr.Cheney is coming from with this.

> >

> > Nat

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" Debra " <dloven1@...> wrote:

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> Awhile back, I listened to a Dr Wong. His lectures are available

> online. he believes that flax in particular, along with a long

> list of other things, disrupts the hormone balance, decreasing

> androgens and increasing estrogens. This in turn may cause hair

> loss and other " estrogenic " changes to our bodies.

> Interesting...check it out....Deb

I find flaxseed oil to be inflammatory after an initial

honeymoon period of 2-4 weeks, possibly due to the the

" estrogenic " qualities mentioned by Wong. Estrogen has both

inflammatory and antiinflammatory properties.

Carol W.

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