Re: Human Dormancy Syndrome- Have you seen that?

[Guest guest]

I wonder if this is the same (see bio below) who is

listed on the patent referenced by the URL you provided? It was hard

to decipher but it looks like they are trying to patent a treatment

using antibiotics and Curcumin (or Iodorol, et al) together to treat

cancer (and/or other conditions?) that are caused by/related to

mycoplasma, fungi, etc...

<<Mike , PhD

Board Member, Sofinnova Ventures

, PhD, joined Sofinnova Ventures in 1997. In his 20

years of pharmaceutical development experience, he has worked on close

to 20 clinical products and authored almost 100 papers. Prior to

joining Sofinnova Ventures, he was Group Leader of Drug Delivery at

Genentech (1990-97) where his focus was developing new therapeutics.

In 1987 he was part of the founding team of Cytel; as Director of

Product Development, he was responsible for the company's early growth

that culminated in a successful IPO. Before this he was Scientist and

Project Team Leader at Syntex Research, where he held several

positions that provided an appreciation and overview of the many

aspects of traditional drug development. Dr. is a Fellow of the

American Association of Pharmaceutical Scientists. He is Adjunct

Professor at the University of Kansas, an Editorial Board Member of J.

Pharm. Sci., a Scientific Advisor to the Controlled Release Society,

and a Board Member for AVAC (AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition). He

received his Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry from the University of

Toronto in 1981, and completed his post-doctorate work in Bio-organic

Chemistry at the University of California, where he was subsequently a

faculty member (1981-84).>>

What lead you to search for/find this patent?

Kendra

On 2/20/09, Nil <yildiz22@...> wrote:

>

http://www.patentspring.com/20080160007

> bw

> nil

[Guest guest]

The who owns the patent Nil posted is my doctor. He is

not the same in the bio that Kendra listed.

My Dr. (he's a D.O.) has evolved his treatment a lot since

he obtained his patent on the Human Dormancy Syndrome. So, what you

read in the patent as treatment is not what he's using with patients these

days.

Amy

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Kendra <KCuyler@...> wrote:

> I wonder if this is the same (see bio below) who is

> listed on the patent referenced by the URL you provided? It was hard

> to decipher but it looks like they are trying to patent a treatment

> using antibiotics and Curcumin (or Iodorol, et al) together to treat

> cancer (and/or other conditions?) that are caused by/related to

> mycoplasma, fungi, etc...

>

> <<Mike , PhD

> Board Member, Sofinnova Ventures

>

> , PhD, joined Sofinnova Ventures in 1997. In his 20

> years of pharmaceutical development experience, he has worked on close

> to 20 clinical products and authored almost 100 papers. Prior to

> joining Sofinnova Ventures, he was Group Leader of Drug Delivery at

> Genentech (1990-97) where his focus was developing new therapeutics.

> In 1987 he was part of the founding team of Cytel; as Director of

> Product Development, he was responsible for the company's early growth

> that culminated in a successful IPO. Before this he was Scientist and

> Project Team Leader at Syntex Research, where he held several

> positions that provided an appreciation and overview of the many

> aspects of traditional drug development. Dr. is a Fellow of the

> American Association of Pharmaceutical Scientists. He is Adjunct

> Professor at the University of Kansas, an Editorial Board Member of J.

> Pharm. Sci., a Scientific Advisor to the Controlled Release Society,

> and a Board Member for AVAC (AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition). He

> received his Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry from the University of

> Toronto in 1981, and completed his post-doctorate work in Bio-organic

> Chemistry at the University of California, where he was subsequently a

> faculty member (1981-84).>>

>

> What lead you to search for/find this patent?

> Kendra

>

>

> On 2/20/09, Nil <yildiz22@... <yildiz22%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> http://www.patentspring.com/20080160007

>

> > bw

> > nil

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Amy

Thanks for clarifying this - after my brief search I feared that big

pharma was trying to hijack the alternative combo approach to treating

Lyme, et al.

Can you provide any more details on his current treatment protocol?

Is it working for you?

tia

Kendra

On 2/20/09, Pwr2Heal <pwr2heal@...> wrote:

>

The who owns the patent Nil posted is my doctor. He is

> not the same in the bio that Kendra listed.

>

> My Dr. (he's a D.O.) has evolved his treatment a lot since

> he obtained his patent on the Human Dormancy Syndrome. So, what you

> read in the patent as treatment is not what he's using with patients these

> days.

>

> Amy

>

> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Kendra <KCuyler@...> wrote:

>

> > I wonder if this is the same (see bio below) who is

> > listed on the patent referenced by the URL you provided? It was hard

> > to decipher but it looks like they are trying to patent a treatment

> > using antibiotics and Curcumin (or Iodorol, et al) together to treat

> > cancer (and/or other conditions?) that are caused by/related to

> > mycoplasma, fungi, etc...

[Guest guest]

Amy

Is he using t3 at your treatment?

bw

nil

Re: Human Dormancy Syndrome- Have you seen that?

The who owns the patent Nil posted is my doctor. He is

not the same in the bio that Kendra listed.

My Dr. (he's a D.O.) has evolved his treatment a lot since

he

[Guest guest]

Hi Nil,

Yes, he's using T3 as part of my treatment.

Amy

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Nil <yildiz22@...> wrote:

> Amy

>

> Is he using t3 at your treatment?

> bw

> nil

>

> Re: Human Dormancy Syndrome- Have you seen

> that?

>

> The who owns the patent Nil posted is my doctor. He is

> not the same in the bio that Kendra listed.

>

> My Dr. (he's a D.O.) has evolved his treatment a lot since

> he

>

>

[Guest guest]

Could you mention a bit more about this if you have energy?

What is your dose? do you use slow release or straight t3? Are you pulsing?

thanks

nil

Re: Human Dormancy Syndrome- Have you seen

> that?

>

> The

[Guest guest]

Hi nil,

Dr. uses serum free T3 and reverse T3 levels to calculate a ratio:

fT3/rT3

I believe this ratio is discussed in his patent. Healthy women have a ratio

of less

than 6. Most patients in their practice are 6 to 10. Mine was originally

11.4.

prescribes T3 from the compounding pharmacy The Wellness Pharmacy.

I think it's time release but I'm not positive. He has his patients slowly

ramp up

on T3 until they have a " small increase " in body temp or heart rate and then

that

is their top dosage. The starting dose is 7.5 mcg. My friends who are also

patients

seemed to have a top dosage of 15 mcg in the AM and 15 mcg in the PM.

Others

need a lot more, it just depends on the person. My situation is a bit

complex and

I am currently taking 45 mcg in the AM and 37.5 mcg in the PM. This is one

of

the higher dosages that I've heard of.

The idea, of course, is that the body got stuck on high creating too much

rT3

(rT3 shuts the body down, metabolism, body temp, immune system, etc). So,

taking T3 resets the body by telling it to stop making rT3. After awhile on

your

highest dose (a pretty short amount of time for some people, like a few

months)

you back down off the T3 until you stop taking it entirely. And hopefully

your

body is no longer making too much rT3.

I'm a complex case, I believe due to heavy metal toxicity as well as Lyme

and

co-infections, and parasites. I had issues getting up to my full dose

initially due

to heart issues and then when I got up to my full dose my fT3/rT3 ratio

dropped

to 4.2 which was great. Shortly after that it shot back up to 12.8,

though. Dr.

had seen this in some of his patients and believes that was due to

vitamin

A in the liver being used up by the body making T3 (I may not have the

mechanism

exactly correct). So, without enough vitamin A available my rT3 level shot

up

again. He then started me on 50k IU of vitamin a day (this high amount is

NOT

recommended unless you are under the care of a doctor). I've not retested

my

ratio yet but will get a lab order on Wednesday to retest fT3 and rT3 and

should

know by early next week if my ratio is where it should be again.

An interesting thing to note is that killing pathogens tends to increase the

fT3/rT3

ratio (I believe the endotoxins put out by the pathogens are able to

increase rT3

levels). I think this is what's happening when " healthy " people get a

sub-normal

temp after having a fever. Thing is, healthy people recover and don't get

rT3 stuck

on high. Whenever I take things that cause die-off I can tell my rT3 is

going up

because my hands and feet get cold again and I feel more sluggish, less

energy,

etc. Dr. said I can increase my T3 during those times to help

counter the

die-off, and it definitely helps.

Well, I probably told more than you wanted to know, lol. Hope it helps

some.

Amy

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Nil <yildiz22@...> wrote:

> Could you mention a bit more about this if you have energy?

>

> What is your dose? do you use slow release or straight t3? Are you pulsing?

>

> thanks

>

> nil

> Re: Human Dormancy Syndrome- Have you seen

> > that?

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> > The

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amy,

Yes,this was helpful.i was wondering if he was using pulsing method like Dr.

wilson uses for WTS but it seems that he does not.Thank you for giving this

information.I am thinking ratio should be rt3/ft3 and not ft3/rt3. I that

correct?

I started to learn about this subject. I am not an expert but i have couple of

ideas.According to what i deducted from what i read rt3 may also increase in

times of stress(I think high cortisol occuring during stress is causing that ).

So, clearing it once may not be total solution. This is my thought.

Thank you for giving your time.

best wishes.

nil

Re: Human Dormancy Syndrome- Have you seen

> > that?

> >

> > The

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Nil,

Yes, of course you're right, it's rT3/fT3. I was going by memory which

doesn't

work too well these days and also clearly didn't think about what I was

writing.

Thanks for catching that.

Yea, Dr. doesn't use the pulsing method that is used in WTS. I am

glad that 's approach is working for me because it's less involved

than

's is (for example, doesn't require such precise timing in

taking

the T3, although I imagine taking it exactly 12 hours apart would be

helpful,

but I seem to do okay without having to do that).

Yes, high levels of cortisol (from stress, chronic infection, etc) causes

fT4

to be shunted to rT3 instead of fT3. So, clearing it once may not stick, so

to speak, especially if you don't clear the cause of it. But, healthy

people

are able to go through periods of high cortisol resulting in high rT3 and

are

able to recover (have rT3 go back down once the stress has passed). This

is what we're aiming for as well.

Best wishes, Amy

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Nil <yildiz22@...> wrote:

> Amy,

>

> Yes,this was helpful.i was wondering if he was using pulsing method like

> Dr. wilson uses for WTS but it seems that he does not.Thank you for giving

> this information.I am thinking ratio should be rt3/ft3 and not ft3/rt3. I

> that correct?

>

> I started to learn about this subject. I am not an expert but i have couple

> of ideas.According to what i deducted from what i read rt3 may also increase

> in times of stress(I think high cortisol occuring during stress is causing

> that ). So, clearing it once may not be total solution. This is my thought.

>

> Thank you for giving your time.

> best wishes.

>

> nil

>

> Re: Human Dormancy Syndrome- Have you seen

> > > that?

> > >

> > > The

> >

> >