Beta glucan

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Anyone know where to obtain this :

" Norweigian, micronized Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan "

....preferably at a less than the full-retail price ?

Thanks,

Bill

>Hi Mike: If you go to my site www.y2khealthanddetox.com and then

>click on Beta Glucan. I have a lot of info there as well as pages

>of research. I don't know if I would heat it for a solution. Most

>people make the mistake of not taking enough to effect everything

>they want..good rule of thumb would be 500 mg per day per 50 lbs.

>of body weight.

>

>Hope this helps..

>Dr. Deb.

>

> Dr. Deborah Baker

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[Guest guest]

Bill Kingsbury wrote:

>

> Anyone know where to obtain this :

>

> " Norweigian, micronized Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan "

>

> ...preferably at a less than the full-retail price ?

Bill,

First, it's a good opportunity for me to say a big " thank you " for all

the wonderful info you give to this list! Much of it has been very

helpful to me, personally.

For the Beta Glucan

Go to:

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/

this month their entire catalog is 30% off. They carry the NSC brand,

which is supposedly the one that most professionals use. The company

name is ...

----oh phooey.

I just went downstairs and dug it out. Good thing, too, because for some

reason they've dropped the " Beta Glucan " from the product description.

Nutrition Supply Co

HD-1002 NSC-100 10mg 30 caps retail 69.95 sale 48.96

HD-1003 NSC-100 10mg 60 caps 94.95 " 66.46

HD-1001 NSC-24 3mg 30 caps " 29.95 " 20.96

HD-1005 NSC-24 3mg 60 caps " 49.95 " 34.96

1-800-223-1216

I've been dealing with them (VS) for years and am a very satisfied

customer.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 02:42:17 -0400

> From: Bill Kingsbury <kingsbry@...>

> Subject: Re: Beta Glucan

>

> Hi,

>

> Anyone know where to obtain this :

>

> " Norweigian, micronized Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan "

>

> ...preferably at a less than the full-retail price ?

Some of this is made from rice bran, I believe.

Wayne ts

[Guest guest]

,

I'm interested in your offer and responded to you privately.

Lash

[Guest guest]

For those without a lot of money to burn, I need

to inform you that we sell the Metagenics brand out of

our office every day for about 30-50% of the prices I have

seen listed elsewhere.

Just one example, we sell the Metagenics Metagest 90 tabs

for $10.46. You can check the other sites for a comparison.

The suggested retail is $13.95, so if someone is selling it for

more than that, they're making major money on a large markup.

That goes for all the other Metagenics products.

I also sell the Immutol 425 Beta 1.3/1.6 Glucan (60 caps)

for $50. It is an excellent supplement for a cancer patient.

My wife's uncle had terminal lung cancer and is now in

total remission for a year after taking it plus Vit. O and

Flor-Essence tea.

I'm not in the mail-order business, but I have tried to save

you guys mucho bucks in the past by occasionally letting you

know about stuff. Trouble is, nobody ever follows through!

So I've been silent, not offering anything to you, but when I saw

prices listed elsewhere that were way too high.... I just thought

I would let you know, we're here. OK?

If you have a specific supplement you want, let me know.

Price

> Anyone know where to obtain this :

>

> " Norweigian, micronized Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan "

[Guest guest]

-

Hi! Is the beta glucan you have Norwegian processed? Those sound like

good prices.

I Bless You and Bless You with All Good,

Zell

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sharon. I know the NSC brand is marketed widely, but I've

found out it's not made by the improved Norwegian extraction process.

So, unless I uncover some important new evidence, I'm going to be

looking for the Norwegian Beta Glucan, as distributed by ImmunoCorp

in Irvine, CA (http://immunocorp.com) 1-800-446-3063.

Thanks for reminding me of the Vitamin Shoppe web site.

Bill

Sharon wrote:

>

>Bill Kingsbury wrote:

>> Anyone know where to obtain this :

>> " Norweigian, micronized Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan "

>> ...preferably at a less than the full-retail price ?

>

>Bill,

>

>First, it's a good opportunity for me to say a big " thank you " for all

>the wonderful info you give to this list! Much of it has been very

>helpful to me, personally.

>

>For the Beta Glucan

>

>Go to:

>

>http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/

>

>this month their entire catalog is 30% off. They carry the NSC brand,

>which is supposedly the one that most professionals use. The company

>name is ... ----oh phooey.

>

>I just went downstairs and dug it out. Good thing, too, because for some

>reason they've dropped the " Beta Glucan " from the product description.

>

>Nutrition Supply Co

>

>HD-1002 NSC-100 10mg 30 caps retail 69.95 sale 48.96

>

>HD-1003 NSC-100 10mg 60 caps 94.95 " 66.46

>

>HD-1001 NSC-24 3mg 30 caps " 29.95 " 20.96

>

>HD-1005 NSC-24 3mg 60 caps " 49.95 " 34.96

>

>

>1-800-223-1216

>

>I've been dealing with them (VS) for years and am a very satisfied

>customer.

>

>Sharon

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi, Anyone know where to obtain this :

> " Norweigian, micronized Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan "

> ...preferably at a less than the full-retail price ?

Is " Immutol 425 " one brand name for the genuine " Norweigian Beta

1,3/1,6 Glucan, " as distributed by ImmunoCorp, in Irvine, CA ?

Their phone line is totally jammed up -- 1-800-446-3063.

And they have no obvious distributors listed with any search

engine on the web. Very strange....

On another note, I just found out that " Norweigian Beta 1,3/1,6

Glucan " is definitely NOT " micronized " -- and that this is a

positive feature, which is apparently being misrepresented by their

major competitor.

To understand the larger context of " the facts, " check the last four

Q/A's on this page:

http://immunocorp.com/html/faq.html

IMO, don't spend your money on any " micronized " Beta Glucan, unless

you own stock in the Nevada Corporation that is promoting the

apparently less- bioactive, " micronized " formulation. Their appears

to be some very tricky propaganda in this attack article :

Will the Real Beta Glucan Please Stand Up! --

http://www.volatile.com/nsc/news/WilltheRealBetaGlucanPleaseStandUp.html

Again, read why micronizing is a BAD idea, with the VERY FRAGILE,

branched-chain, Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan molecule :

http://immunocorp.com/html/faq.html

- especially in the last section, titled: " If a Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan

product contains " micronized " particles, one micron or less, will it

be more effective and therefore require much smaller dosages? "

(The short answer is NO.)

By the time that other company gets done " micronizing " the fragile

molecules, what's left ? Mostly the inferior Beta 1,3 Glucan, and

other bio-inactive " fragments, " or what ? At least the Norwegian

Beta Glucan is delivered with a certificate of analysis, and

guaranteed to be 80% Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan -- with intact branching.

(The branching is absolutely necessary.)

Of course, " they " could argue that the " Beta 1,3 Glucan " (left over

from the grinding and blending of their micronizing) is a superb

product -- since THAT'S ALL they apparently advertised for sale

(two years ago), until the superior Norwegian Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan

became available in the U.S., and they suddenly had to " sing a new

tune " (and repackage their old product as " Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan " ?).

Now they have the gall (in the above attack article) to snidely

insinuate the Norwegian company can't be trusted, since they

allegedly changed their product's name, as any *honest* company

has every right to do.

Duplicitous dissembling and subterfuge ?

Give me Norwegian, any day.

Just help me find it, please.

Take care,

Bill

¡

[Guest guest]

,

So, the " Immutol 425 " is the Norwegian type ?

You called them, yes ?

The Norwegian type is from ImmunoCorp (Irvine, CA), as

developed by Biotec ASA (Norway) -- does that check ?

It's funny that no one is advertising Immutol 425

on the web !

I'll be sending a M.O.

Thank you,

Bill

9-18-2000, you wrote:

>

> Yoo Hoo, here it is! )

> P

>

>

> Give me Norwegian, any day.

> Just help me find it, please.

> Take care,

> Bill

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, Bill,

That's the number on this bottle that I'm holding here, the immutol, and

Irvine, CA is on the bottle too, so I guess this is what you're looking for!

Price, D.C.

Re: Beta Glucan

>

> Thanks, Sharon. I know the NSC brand is marketed widely, but I've

> found out it's not made by the improved Norwegian extraction process.

> So, unless I uncover some important new evidence, I'm going to be

> looking for the Norwegian Beta Glucan, as distributed by ImmunoCorp

> in Irvine, CA (http://immunocorp.com) 1-800-446-3063.

>

> Thanks for reminding me of the Vitamin Shoppe web site.

>

> Bill

>

>

> Sharon wrote:

> >

> >Bill Kingsbury wrote:

> >> Anyone know where to obtain this :

> >> " Norweigian, micronized Beta 1,3/1,6 Glucan "

> >> ...preferably at a less than the full-retail price ?

> >

> >Bill,

> >

> >First, it's a good opportunity for me to say a big " thank you " for all

> >the wonderful info you give to this list! Much of it has been very

> >helpful to me, personally.

> >

> >For the Beta Glucan

> >

> >Go to:

> >

> >http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/

> >

> >this month their entire catalog is 30% off. They carry the NSC brand,

> >which is supposedly the one that most professionals use. The company

> >name is ... ----oh phooey.

> >

> >I just went downstairs and dug it out. Good thing, too, because for some

> >reason they've dropped the " Beta Glucan " from the product description.

> >

> >Nutrition Supply Co

> >

> >HD-1002 NSC-100 10mg 30 caps retail 69.95 sale 48.96

> >

> >HD-1003 NSC-100 10mg 60 caps 94.95 " 66.46

> >

> >HD-1001 NSC-24 3mg 30 caps " 29.95 " 20.96

> >

> >HD-1005 NSC-24 3mg 60 caps " 49.95 " 34.96

> >

> >

> >1-800-223-1216

> >

> >I've been dealing with them (VS) for years and am a very satisfied

> >customer.

> >

> >Sharon

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yoo Hoo, here it is! )

P

Give me Norwegian, any day.

Just help me find it, please.

Take care,

Bill

[Guest guest]

Bill, wait until I see what the shipping will be before you send me a money

order, OK?

Re: Re: Beta Glucan

>

> ,

>

> So, the " Immutol 425 " is the Norwegian type ?

> You called them, yes ?

>

> The Norwegian type is from ImmunoCorp (Irvine, CA), as

> developed by Biotec ASA (Norway) -- does that check ?

>

> It's funny that no one is advertising Immutol 425

> on the web !

>

> I'll be sending a M.O.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Bill

>

>

> 9-18-2000, you wrote:

> >

> > Yoo Hoo, here it is! )

> > P

> >

> >

> > Give me Norwegian, any day.

> > Just help me find it, please.

> > Take care,

> > Bill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here

are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

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[Guest guest]

Bill Kingsbury wrote:

>

> Thanks, Sharon. I know the NSC brand is marketed widely, but I've

> found out it's not made by the improved Norwegian extraction process.

> So, unless I uncover some important new evidence, I'm going to be

> looking for the Norwegian Beta Glucan, as distributed by ImmunoCorp

> in Irvine, CA (http://immunocorp.com) 1-800-446-3063.

>

> Thanks for reminding me of the Vitamin Shoppe web site.

You're very welcome.

I'm now 'sitting up and taking notice' because I've used NSC's at the

higher strength and frankly didn't feel that I was getting any benefit

from it.

I was only dealing with something rather minor (I think), but I did

expect more of a " knockout " .

I'm saving Price's email with his offer in case I want to try this

again!

As always, a big thankyou Bill, for teaching me something new.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Anybody done well on Beta glucan to try to balance TH 1-TH2 imbalance?

After about two or three weeks, I started developing cold virus symptoms,

fevers at night and so on. Right now, I'm not strong enough to deal with

cold viruses on top of my osteomyelitis/dental nerve injury situation.

Thanks,

Du Pre

Poetry website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

" By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

Website for National Alliance for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis:

http://www.name-us.org

[Guest guest]

I, too, would love to get more information on this! Last year I took the new

Epicor, which seems to work in similar fashion to Beta Glucan.

By my 3rd week of taking Epicor daily, I came down with the worst case of

bronchitis imaginable. I rarely get colds/flus, and had not had bronchitis in 30

yrs.

I was so sick that I even took abx, which did not work. My Dr finally put me on

a week's worth of Prednisone as he said it would be the only thing to deal with

the inflammation in the bronchial tubes. It worked, fortunately.

I'm really afraid to take these " immune boosters " now.

Anyone?

Sharon M (fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue)

> Anybody done well on Beta glucan to try to balance TH 1-TH2 imbalance?

> After about two or three weeks, I started developing cold virus symptoms,

> fevers at night and so on. Right now, I'm not strong enough to deal with

> cold viruses on top of my osteomyelitis/dental nerve injury situation.

> Thanks,

> Du Pre

[Guest guest]

Here are some references on beta-glucans from a list that circulated a

year or so ago on indoor air.

Beta Glucans

1. Young SH, JR, Antonini JM. Pulmonary exposure to 1, 3-beta-glucan

alters adaptive immune responses in rats. Inhal Toxicol 2006; 18(11): 865-874.

2. Thorn J, Rylander R. Airways inflammation and glucan in a rowhouse area. Am J

Respir Crit Care Med 1998; 157: 1798-1803.

3. Young SH, JR, Antonini JM. Pulmonary exposure to 1, 3-B-glucan alters

adaptive immune responses in rats. Inhalation Toxicology 2006; 18: 865-874.

4. Brown GD. Dectin-1: a signaling non-TLR pattern-recognition receptor. Nature

Reviews Immunology 2006; 6: 33-43.

5. MJ, Sancho D, Slack EC, LeibundGut-Landmann S, Sousa CR.

Myeloid C-type lectins in innate immunity. Nature Immunology 2006; 7(12):

1258-1264.

6. McCann F, Carmona E, Puri V, Pagano RE, Limper AH. Macrophage

internalization of fungal-B-glucans is not necessary for initiation of related

inflammatory responses. Infection and Immunity 2005; 73(10): 6340-6349.

7. Kataoka K, Muta T, Yamazaki S, Takeshige K. Activation of macrophages by

linear (1,3)-beta-D-glucans. Implications for the recognition of fungi by innate

immunity. J Biol Chem 2002; 277(39): 36825-36831.

8. Palma AS, Feizi T, Zhang Y, Stoll MS, Lawson AM, - E,

Campanero- MA, Costa J, Gordon S, Brown GD, Chai W. Ligands for the

beta-glucan receptor, dectin-1, assigned using " designer " microarrays of

oligosaccharide probes (neoglycolipids) generated from glucan polysaccharides. J

Biol Chem 2006; 281(9): 5771-5779.

9. Herre J, Willment JA, Gordon S, Brown GD. The role of dectin-1 in antifungal

immunity. Crit Rev Immunol 2004; 24(3): 193-203.

10. PR, Tsoni SV, Willment JA, KM, s M, Findon H, Haynes

K, Steele C, Botto M, Gordon S, Brown GD. Dectin-1 is required for beta-glucan

recognition and control of fungal infection. Nat Immunol 2007; 8(1): 31-38.

11. Willment JA, Marshall AS, Reid DM, DL, Wong SY, Gordon S, Brown

GD. The human beta-glucan receptor is widely expressed and functionally

equivalent to murine dectin-1 on primary cells. Eur J Immunol 2005; 35(5): 1539-

1547.

12. PR, Brown GD, Reid DM, Willment JA, ez-Pomares L, Gordon S,

Wong SY. The beta-glucan receptor, dectin-1, is predominantly expressed on the

surface of cells of the monocyte/macrophage and neutrophil lineages. J Immunol

2002; 169(7): 3879-3882.

13. Brown GD, PR, Reid DM, Willment JA, DL, ez-Pomares

L, Wong SY, Gordon S. Dectin-1 is a major beta-glucan receptor on

macrophages. J Exp Med 2002; 196(3): 407-412.

14. Thornton BP, Vetvicka V, Pitman M, Goldman RC, Ross GD. Analysis of the

sugar specificity and molecular location of the beta-glucan-binding

lectin site of

complement receptor type 3 (CD11b/CD18). J Immunol 1996; 156(3): 1235-

1246.

15. Ozment-Skelton TR, Goldman MP, Gordon S, Brown GD, DL.

Prolonged reduction of leukocyte membrane-associated dectin-1 levels following

beta-glucan administration. J Pharmacol Exp Ther 2006; 318(2): 540-546.

16. Herre J, Gordon S, Brown GD. Dectin-1 and its role in the

recognition of betaglucans

by macrophages. Mol Immunol 2004; 40(12): 869-876.

17. Adachi Y, Ishii T, Ikeda Y, Hoshino A, Tamura H, Aketagawa J, Tanaka S, Ohno

N. Characterization of beta-glucan recognition site on C-type lectin, dectin 1.

Infect Immun 2004; 72(7): 4159-4171.

18. McGreal EP, s M, Brown GD, Zamze S, Wong SY, Gordon S, ez-

Pomares L, PR. The carbohydrate-recognition domain of dectin-2 is a Ctype

lectin with specificity for high mannose. Glycobiology 2006; 16(5): 422-430.

Inflammation

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Du Pre <isaiah9@...> wrote:

>

> Hello,

> Anybody done well on Beta glucan to try to balance TH 1-TH2 imbalance?

> After about two or three weeks, I started developing cold virus symptoms,

> fevers at night and so on. Right now, I'm not strong enough to deal with

> cold viruses on top of my osteomyelitis/dental nerve injury situation.

> Thanks,

> Du Pre

> Poetry website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

> " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

> Website for National Alliance for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis:

> http://www.name-us.org

>

>

[Guest guest]

i used it and had improvements on it and other immune modulators like

transfer factor and earth dragon. But it wasnt a long lasting

improvement. It just stopped working aftre a couple weeks.

>

>

> Hello,

> Anybody done well on Beta glucan to try to balance TH 1-TH2

imbalance?

> After about two or three weeks, I started developing cold virus

symptoms,

> fevers at night and so on. Right now, I'm not strong enough to deal

with

> cold viruses on top of my osteomyelitis/dental nerve injury situation.

> Thanks,

> Du Pre

> Poetry website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

> " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

> Website for National Alliance for Myalgic Encephalomyelitis:

> http://www.name-us.org

>

>

>