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Hi Jan,

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I believe it's important to avoid blanket statements

are made about therapies. Always clarify that it is your experience only and

that other's experience may be different.

Also avoid comparison statements like

" more than any other therapy because it works and creates the wanted changes

better than anything else... "

That is a very subjective judgement. Creating a poll here, gives a more

objective measurement....

I'm glad it worked for you, but to say " it works...better than anything else " ,

makes it sound

like a fact, rather than saying it worked " for me " better than anything

else...you know? :)

I tried it for about 6 sessions about 4-5 years ago and found it didn't make any

difference

at all -- a total waste of time and money -- for me. I may be the practitioner,

but it may

also be because it may not address the core causes of our illness -- just parts

of it.

Anyway, glad to hear it helped you, and I know others have claimed similar

benefits!

Dan

>

> Hi Nil,

> In the past, I used EMDR extensively for myself and for clients (before this

relapse). I

found it to be very effective, but emotionally, it could be incredibly painful

to experience.

Not the kindest therapy. I stopped using it as a therapy method when I found

core

transformation and timeline therapy which achieved as good or better results

without

needing to re-experience any of the trauma or emotional pain. These are much

kinder

and more enjoyable therapies that relieve the suffering, and can be totally

transforming.

> Since then, as you know, I found EFT which is much quicker than any other

therapy I

have found, and is also seems to achieve results more reliably. It is easier to

learn and can

be done yourself more easily. I still like core transformation - I have had

some of the

most blissful, divine and wonderful experiences with core transformation. I

also still like

timeline therapy, but they are more time consuming and there have been times

with the

CFS that I was unable to do them because of the way my brain was working -

unable to

concentrate or think clearly enough. Most of the time these days, my husband,

who has

trained in these methods with me, will use EFT more than any other therapy

because it

works and creates the wanted changes better than anything else.

> Let me know if you have any questions about EMDR, or anything else I can help

you

with.

> Kindest regards,

> Jan

>

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Hi Dan

I am not Jan but i think she was comparing only emotional release therapies when

she wrote that and not other type of therapies.She is very experienced on those

type of therapies.I must also say that she later wrote me a private note stating

that she did not mean to send that note to the list but privately to me.She

mistakenly sent it to the list. So,please think as if she had not sent it to

the list.

" I may be the practitioner, but it may

also be because it may not address the core causes of our illness -- just parts

of it.

"

Also my original question was about releasing traumas and not curing CFS.So,

when she said it works better than any other therapies she meant trauma release

not CFS cure.

I thought i should write this as i know she is not feeling well and also has

computer problems at this point and she may not be able to answer you.

bw

nil

Re: off-topic/EFT...

Hi Jan,

[Moderator: Slight revisions to keep things cool...]

I believe it's important to avoid blanket statements

are made about therapies. Always clarify that it is your experience only and

that other's experience may be different.

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Thanks for the clarification Nil -- I understand now, and sincerely appreciate

what Jan's

talking about. These therapies can often be very helpful.

I guess my point was that what particular therapy works for one person may not

work for

another, so we all need to be careful when we post.

That being sad, silly me, I wasn't very careful myself! I meant to say " It may

be the

practitioner... " , instead of " I may be the practitioner " .

SORRY to all,

Dan

>

> Hi Dan

>

> I am not Jan but i think she was comparing only emotional release therapies

when she

wrote that and not other type of therapies.She is very experienced on those type

of

therapies.I must also say that she later wrote me a private note stating that

she did not

mean to send that note to the list but privately to me.She mistakenly sent it to

the list.

So,please think as if she had not sent it to the list.

>

> " I may be the practitioner, but it may

> also be because it may not address the core causes of our illness -- just

parts of it.

> "

> Also my original question was about releasing traumas and not curing CFS.So,

when she

said it works better than any other therapies she meant trauma release not CFS

cure.

>

> I thought i should write this as i know she is not feeling well and also has

computer

problems at this point and she may not be able to answer you.

>

> bw

> nil

> Re: off-topic/EFT...

>

>

> Hi Jan,

>

> [Moderator: Slight revisions to keep things cool...]

> I believe it's important to avoid blanket statements

> are made about therapies. Always clarify that it is your experience only and

that other's

experience may be different.

>

>

>

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