Re: SKIN PROBLEMS...thin, dry, patchy, peeling...???

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Hi and thanks to everyone for their replies. I hope they'll keep coming.

, it think it is partially a psoriasis thing, but different in a way. No

itching, but

definitely drier over the hairier parts of my face. Still, it's very thin and

dry in other places

too, except my forehead which is always oily. But my eyebrows, dry and flaking

like crazy!

Thanks Marti for the recipe...I'll look into that.

And Nil, I haven't tried the blood pressure thing -- lying down and sitting up

-- but will if

I can get a doc's appt. She's only there twice a week, and it's been three

weeks and she

has yet to respond to my letter about my low iron levels. I'll call tomorrow.

But I'm sure adrenal problems are an issue...tons of stress over the last six

months, and

worse this past 4-5 days.

Still also looking into zinc deficiencies and fatty acid imbalances (per the

Kane Protocol).

If anyone else has any suggestions, I'm all ears!

Thanks again,

d.

>

> Hi Dan

>

> This is sign of low cortisol and/or DHEA.

>

> May I give you a simple test to check.

>

> put the BP monitor on

> lie down calmly for 10 minutes and rest

> than get your bp

> loosen the calf while lying down and rest for three more minutes for the

> veins to return normal

> stand up and take another reading immediately

> second reading should not be less than the first one. It actually should be

> higher by 10 points.Anything lower than that indicates adrenal problem.

> bw

> nil

> SKIN PROBLEMS...

>

>

> > Does anyone in the group suffer from suddenly thinning skin?

> >

> > It seems to be " Just " a problem on my face, and mostly around my eyebrows

> > and where I

> > shave, but also under the eyes.

> >

> > The skin...just over the last 3-4 months has become so thin and delicate,

> > that if I rub it

> > lightly, I can cause a small amount of bleeding.

> >

> > And before I shave (with an electric razor), sometimes if I rub my beard,

> > the skin just

> > PEELS off...again, almost bleeding.

> >

> > I was found to be deficient in copper and iron, so I stopped taking zinc

> > months ago. Does

> >

>

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>

>

> Thanks Marti for the recipe...I'll look into that.

>

Dan,

I am not sure that you should try the Epsom salts now, as I did

research and found that the salts are drying. I think that might

make it worse.

My skin feels the opposite - very hydrated but I would hate to make

this worse for you.

For the drying and flaking - have you tried vinegar. Sometimes, we

get fungus and bacteria and it is not bad enough to itch but bad

enough to be a problem. I love vinegar rinses - I used to be a dog

breeder and weimaraners have very sensitive skin and my puppies

would have skin issues in the humid early summer. Vinegar rinses

every day for 5 days and the fungus or whatever was gone.

Just another thought (for the dry, flaky hairy parts of your face

(not the thinning, sensitive parts))

Marti

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>

>

> Thanks Marti for the recipe...I'll look into that.

>

Dan,

I am not sure that you should try the Epsom salts now, as I did

research and found that the salts are drying. I think that might

make it worse.

My skin feels the opposite - very hydrated but I would hate to make

this worse for you.

For the drying and flaking - have you tried vinegar. Sometimes, we

get fungus and bacteria and it is not bad enough to itch but bad

enough to be a problem. I love vinegar rinses - I used to be a dog

breeder and weimaraners have very sensitive skin and my puppies

would have skin issues in the humid early summer. Vinegar rinses

every day for 5 days and the fungus or whatever was gone.

Just another thought (for the dry, flaky hairy parts of your face

(not the thinning, sensitive parts))

Marti

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Hi,Dan,

People who are " lactose-intolerant " have this skin problem too.

I had. Went away after only 3 days of diet.

Maybe good to look into?

Greetings,

Dirk

> >

> >

> > Thanks Marti for the recipe...I'll look into that.

> >

>

> Dan,

> I am not sure that you should try the Epsom salts now, as I did

> research and found that the salts are drying. I think that might

> make it worse.

>

> My skin feels the opposite - very hydrated but I would hate to make

> this worse for you.

>

> For the drying and flaking - have you tried vinegar. Sometimes, we

> get fungus and bacteria and it is not bad enough to itch but bad

> enough to be a problem. I love vinegar rinses - I used to be a dog

> breeder and weimaraners have very sensitive skin and my puppies

> would have skin issues in the humid early summer. Vinegar rinses

> every day for 5 days and the fungus or whatever was gone.

>

> Just another thought (for the dry, flaky hairy parts of your face

> (not the thinning, sensitive parts))

> Marti

>

[Guest guest]

That's interesting Dirk, I hadn't heard that.

I was wondering, do you take a calcium supplement (or supplements) in place of

any dairy

you were eating/drinking? Did you have a lot of gas or other problems when you

consumed dairy?

My problem is I haven't been able to find a calcium supplement that 'works'. If

I stop

drinking a glass of milk (mornings and evenings) then within a day or so I'll

bolt out of bed

with strong leg cramps.

I'd like to stop dairy, believe me, as I know it contributes to my

digestive/yeast issues, but

so far...I haven't found a replacement.

Any ideas would be sincerely appreciated!

Thanks Dirk,

Dan

p.s. Talked to a knowledgeable guy from the supplement store today and he

thought that

zinc and evening primrose or borage oil might help...I don't know, but

definitely haven't

taken zinc in months and months.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks Marti for the recipe...I'll look into that.

> > >

> >

> > Dan,

> > I am not sure that you should try the Epsom salts now, as I did

> > research and found that the salts are drying. I think that might

> > make it worse.

> >

> > My skin feels the opposite - very hydrated but I would hate to make

> > this worse for you.

> >

> > For the drying and flaking - have you tried vinegar. Sometimes, we

> > get fungus and bacteria and it is not bad enough to itch but bad

> > enough to be a problem. I love vinegar rinses - I used to be a dog

> > breeder and weimaraners have very sensitive skin and my puppies

> > would have skin issues in the humid early summer. Vinegar rinses

> > every day for 5 days and the fungus or whatever was gone.

> >

> > Just another thought (for the dry, flaky hairy parts of your face

> > (not the thinning, sensitive parts))

> > Marti

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hoi,Dan,

Sorry for the late reaction.

Many ME/CFS have " leaky gut " ...lactose/fructose intolerance or

glutenintolerance! (see DMl spoke in perth on this forum)

Idid a diet free of lactose/fructose which is difficult; everything

contains it!!

Found out that many types of food gave me problems :

Leek : sleepfor two days

onion : baked is no problem;cooked is big problem

paprika/nuts : my body don't diegest this.

So,basically,Ieat a lot of rice and fish and many vegetables; only

white bread (no dark breads);soy products:chicken/turkey (no porc or

beef); no vinegars (sauces!!)

Try to buy everything fresh so no processed food.

I got a " basic diet " which I had to follow(=toasten

dread;chicken/turkey products;some jam:soup with no herbs

or " bouillon " .

This you do for 3 weeks (called " the wash-out " ). after 3 week on day

1 you can ad something (say:carrots).

So day1 you eat :rice ,chicken,carrots

DAy 2/3 you eat the basic agian.

On day4 you can again ad something.

You write down the reactions you had on day 2/3

I foud out some crastrange stuff about food and my body!

Strange : i do good on thai food (rice,fish,chili,coconut milk,bamboo

....despite the doc saying chili is not good cause too strong on the

gut!

I do have 2 remarks :

if Rnase and PKR pathway are disturbed then the allergies change. So

one day you do fine on lettice and some days later not!

Read this on the internet end checked it on a forum and many people

have this problem!

A friend of mine is having spectacular results with a " acid-alkali

diet " ...less pain;more power and less brain fog.

he eats a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables;almost no meat (150gram a

day)

Again our CFS doc says it's not possible but we see the results

If anyone has an explanation for this please react?

I hope this helps you a bit

I don't take calciul nor magnesium. To me it's impossible to get this

at a normal level because of the mitochondria problems!!

Kalium/Natrium;calcium is a big problem there and leads to poor ATP

production! So we can not have energy!

If you're interested i e-mail you my diet (prescribed by a famous cfs

doc.

Greetings and sorry for the late reaction.

Dirk

>

> That's interesting Dirk, I hadn't heard that.

>

> I was wondering, do you take a calcium supplement (or supplements)

in place of any dairy

> you were eating/drinking? Did you have a lot of gas or other

problems when you

> consumed dairy?

>

> My problem is I haven't been able to find a calcium supplement

that 'works'. If I stop

> drinking a glass of milk (mornings and evenings) then within a day

or so I'll bolt out of bed

> with strong leg cramps.

>

> I'd like to stop dairy, believe me, as I know it contributes to my

digestive/yeast issues, but

> so far...I haven't found a replacement.

>

> Any ideas would be sincerely appreciated!

>

> Thanks Dirk,

>

> Dan

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey thanks Dirk. I know I have a slight wheat intolerance, and need to stay

away from

some spices, but I should have more of those you listed checked out.

Did you find that avoiding fructose helped? I don't eat very much, but do have

a spoon or

less of raw honey every now and then.

Thanks,

d.

p.s. The rest of your diet sounds the same as mine!

>

> Hoi,Dan,

>

> Sorry for the late reaction.

> Many ME/CFS have " leaky gut " ...lactose/fructose intolerance or

> glutenintolerance! (see DMl spoke in perth on this forum)

>

> Idid a diet free of lactose/fructose which is difficult; everything

> contains it!!

>

> Found out that many types of food gave me problems :

> Leek : sleepfor two days

> onion : baked is no problem;cooked is big problem

> paprika/nuts : my body don't diegest this.

>

> So,basically,Ieat a lot of rice and fish and many vegetables; only

> white bread (no dark breads);soy products:chicken/turkey (no porc or

> beef); no vinegars (sauces!!)

> Try to buy everything fresh so no processed food.

>

> I got a " basic diet " which I had to follow(=toasten

> dread;chicken/turkey products;some jam:soup with no herbs

> or " bouillon " .

> This you do for 3 weeks (called " the wash-out " ). after 3 week on day

> 1 you can ad something (say:carrots).

> So day1 you eat :rice ,chicken,carrots

> DAy 2/3 you eat the basic agian.

> On day4 you can again ad something.

> You write down the reactions you had on day 2/3

> I foud out some crastrange stuff about food and my body!

>

> Strange : i do good on thai food (rice,fish,chili,coconut milk,bamboo

> ...despite the doc saying chili is not good cause too strong on the

> gut!

>

> I do have 2 remarks :

> if Rnase and PKR pathway are disturbed then the allergies change. So

> one day you do fine on lettice and some days later not!

> Read this on the internet end checked it on a forum and many people

> have this problem!

>

> A friend of mine is having spectacular results with a " acid-alkali

> diet " ...less pain;more power and less brain fog.

> he eats a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables;almost no meat (150gram a

> day)

> Again our CFS doc says it's not possible but we see the results

> If anyone has an explanation for this please react?

>

> I hope this helps you a bit

> I don't take calciul nor magnesium. To me it's impossible to get this

> at a normal level because of the mitochondria problems!!

> Kalium/Natrium;calcium is a big problem there and leads to poor ATP

> production! So we can not have energy!

>

> If you're interested i e-mail you my diet (prescribed by a famous cfs

> doc.

>

> Greetings and sorry for the late reaction.

> Dirk

>

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> >

> > That's interesting Dirk, I hadn't heard that.

> >

> > I was wondering, do you take a calcium supplement (or supplements)

> in place of any dairy

> > you were eating/drinking? Did you have a lot of gas or other

> problems when you

> > consumed dairy?

> >

> > My problem is I haven't been able to find a calcium supplement

> that 'works'. If I stop

> > drinking a glass of milk (mornings and evenings) then within a day

> or so I'll bolt out of bed

> > with strong leg cramps.

> >

> > I'd like to stop dairy, believe me, as I know it contributes to my

> digestive/yeast issues, but

> > so far...I haven't found a replacement.

> >

> > Any ideas would be sincerely appreciated!

> >

> > Thanks Dirk,

> >

> > Dan

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi and thanks to everyone for their replies. I hope they'll keep

coming.

>

> , it think it is partially a psoriasis thing, but different in

a way. No itching, but

> definitely drier over the hairier parts of my face. Still, it's very

thin and dry in other places

> too, except my forehead which is always oily. But my eyebrows, dry

and flaking like crazy!> >

>

Maybe omega-3 oils will help? It helps me with my scaly patches on my

head.

[Guest guest]

The RAST blood test for food allergy helped me lots.  Some common foods such an

orange  juice were killing me.  Its an expensive test but if you have food

problems I recommend it.  I attempt to do the 4 day rotation so mine don't get

worse.

Alice

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Hey thanks Dirk.  I know I have a slight wheat intolerance, and need to stay

away from

some spices, but I should have more of those you listed checked out. 

Did you find that avoiding fructose helped?  I don't eat very much, but do

have a spoon or

less of raw honey every now and then.

Thanks,