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Dale,

> My eyesight is really going south fast. I am farsighted with a slight

> astigmatism and am wonder if anyone has had any luck in slowing down the

> age related problem.

No luck so far in my case. I am slightly nearsighted in one eye and

seriously impaired in the other due to astigmatism. My good eye had perfect

vision until I was about 25, at which time I became slightly nearsighted and

started wearing glasses. I'd love to reverse this obvious age-related

decline but haven't yet found a way aside from surgery.

There is some hope that growth hormone can help with improving vision, as

Ellis mentioned. If nothing else the GH could help to keep the lens

hydrated, which should help.

> Also my MD says glasses don't accelerated the loss

> of, but my eyes sure get tired quicker wearing them and it seems to take

> longer to recover after reading for a while. I was wondering if others

> have noticed this.

If your eyes get tired quicker while wearing glasses then I think you might

want to double check your prescription.

-gts

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YES I experience vision problems that come and go!!! I went to an opthamologist

recently because I thought I needed new glasses. My RX did not change ...the

opthamologist sent me for an MRI because he thought my complaints did not match

his normal findings. I'm waiting for the final results...I was called back by

the MRI tech Thursday to come in for more tests. I'm thinking they are looking

for MS or white matter on the brain. I read on pub med that some CFIDS people

have white matter. With my nuerological symptoms so bad I read that white matter

is usually there. What this means...I'm not really sure. I've been sick since

1983 with CFIDS.....finding MS now?????? who knows. I can't see clearly when I

want to and I occasionally see yellow spots....and I have positional vertigo.

Now, I'm trying to understand what " white matter " is. With my nuerological

symptoms so bad and the vertigo I'm slow at trying to find this out. I got sick

in 1983 and my nuerological problems started ab

out 1997 which is when I had my first MRI ...they were looking for MS then too.

I'll deal with whatever is..isn't that what we do..... Mindy

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Yes mine does worsens too..be sure too tell your doc about it...worse thing

he/she will do is look at you weird and we are all used to that. Tell your doc

so he/she documents it...if ever needed in any type of review (SSD or long term

disability). Most in my support group complain of the same thing. Great that

you went to an opthamologist as I did...but mine has me going for MRI and to a

nuerologist. Hopefully it is all just CFIDS related......I do remember my great

doc, who retired, said...don't always attribute everything to CFIDS....rule

other things out.

Have you " ever " had an MRI? Probably a smart thing to do " if " you never did one.

Then, there would be a " baseline. "

Mindy

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> You need to see an opthamologist about that.

> Don't go risking your vision trying to save some money by asking on

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> write down every thing that happens to you. Fatigue can be a sign of

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> systemic illnesses. So can vision problems. Talk to a doctor.

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Hi

Do you take anything for the dizziness? I take meclizine every few hours which

is like bonine. It helps to keep the whirling at a minimum.

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Hi!!

I have FM for about 13 years.Since 1994 I had always problems with my

eyes.I have been checked and everything is OK with me.

My visual dizzness, this is the name I give to my visual

disturbances,is constant. I have only 2 or 3 days without dizness. I

think it could be related to neurological problems, to the nervous

system.

I hope it serves

hughs

carmen

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No, that actually was the first thing that *I* thought about, ,

but I am not him and my situation doesn't apply to everybody.

He didn't mention in his original post (the one that I replied to)

that he had already seen an eye doctor and that that hadn't been

helpful.

You know, I agree with you on a lot of what you say, but this isn't

one of them. I have no idea where he is either.

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> SickBuildings group discussions of Dr Shoemakers work, you would

> strangely neglect to mention that the VCS examination of retinal

> hypoperfusion is the very basis for suspecting the presence of biotoxin

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With the coagulation model it would makes sense. The micro-thrombosis

would increase, resulting in less oxygen reaching the eyes. So there

would a matching improvement or worsening of symptoms.

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gets worse and it gets better when your condition gets better? What

could be this related to? thanks.

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Strange. It seems to me that if a conventional opthalmologist found

nothing abnormal, the next step would be to consider some less known

eye condition that is mediated in direct correlation to illness

exacerbation.

You are aware biotoxin illness matches that description, yet you

feel that you shouldn't suggest it because this might not apply to

everybody?

If there is any chance it might apply in this case, don't you think

he'd like to hear about it?

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Hi Nil,

When I first read your post I immediately thought of the lack of

blood flow and oxygen to the brain. I think Ken is correct.

Have you tried using Dr. Cheney's Gookinaid or salt before or after

exertion? Are you on any blood thinners? You might experiment and see

if either or both help.

I also experience this and relate it to when my adrenals are

stressed. But, it has always felt like there wasn't enough

oxygen/energy to the eyes.

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Thank you all who have answered my inquiry.Another thing that comes to my

mind is weakening of muscles.could it be the cause?

Ken

I re read your site on anti coagulants.Thanks for the info you have given

there.

I am having bothering brain swelling problem. I need to increase brain

circulation.

I am regularly taking 1000 I.u. vit d3 per day.

also using some using turmeric with meals.

I added 2 capsules of bromelain per day. did not give sufficient help.

planning to add epo and ginkgo.

can I take bromelain,epo and ginkgo biloba in the same day safely?

you say at your site that one should not take ginkgo together with ginseng.

I guess this applies to rhodiola,too..Is that correct?

thanks alot.

nil

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I don't know the answer but I've been wearing glasses or contacts since I was 8.

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I don't think SMA has anything to do with it, but there are medications that can

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I don't take any medications. I don't know what could possibly be

wrong, but I really don't want to go to the eye doctor. My dad thinks

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I have bad eyesight as well. I started wearing glasses around the age

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Why don't you want to go to an eye doctor? Your eyesight can be

affected by problems with your general health (diabetes, high blood

pressure, etc.) as well as diseases of the eye. My son was diagnosed

with toxoplasmosis as an infant and couldn't tell us that there was a

problem. As a result, he has retinal scarring (can't be fixed) in the

macula of both eyes. He is legally blind in one eye because he has no

central vision. If the scars were in the center of both eyes, he

wouldn't be able to read, watch TV, play video games or use the

computer. Don't risk your vision. You are too young and the sooner a

diagnosis is made the better your chances are for a positive outcome.

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Thank you. You're right. If only I could convince my dad to take me to

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Depth and reading vision are effected by SMA according to my drs.

Get an eye exam.

Medications can affect eyesight too.

Ditropan affects mine, can't read during first 2 hrs after a dose do to

blurriness. Later in day I don't have blurry reading.

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> get worse, but things at a regular distance are just fine. Could this

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> of it. But I'm thinking maybe the muscles in my eyes are weakening?

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hi im 18 and got an eye test today iv always had 20/20 vision however was told i

now need reading glasses

 

From: Amy <charmedcripchic@...>

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Depth and reading vision are effected by SMA according to my drs.

Get an eye exam.

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Ditropan affects mine, can't read during first 2 hrs after a dose do to

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That's exactly how mine happened! Just so sudden. Oh well..

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