Re: bacterial meningitis

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- here is some info I found in my files on sinuses.

Your sinuses are hollow air-filled spaces within the bones of your face, behind and above your nose. Sinus means a cavity or hollow, but we see them as part of our breathing apparatus The lining of the sinuses produces a soft gel-like fluid called mucous, and tiny hairs, called cilia.

What is its function?

The mucous and cilia humidify and warm the air you breathe, aid your sense of smell, and improve the sound of your voice. There is a constant sweeping by theses cilia of mucus out of your sinuses and into your nose and throat through small openings which cleans and moisturizes your nasal passages.

Why is it a problem when the sinuses don't function properly?

When the sinus linings become infected, usually due to viruses or bacteria, they may swell, causing an obstruction and interfering with normal drainage of mucus. Infection causes swelling, which makes it even harder for your sinuses to drain, causing pressure pain headache fever, and local tenderness.

Things you can do to help yourself.

Drink plenty of liquids to help dilute the secretions. Have you ever "steamed" your face? It feels so good.

A quick method is to fill a sink with very nice warm water, gently put your head over the waves of steamy warm water, and place a towel over you and the sink. Inhale a couple of times, but don't prolong it. Just feel the warm breeze on your face. Applying warm facial packs work, too. Be careful not to scald yourself.

Avoid bending over with your head down. This can cause more pain and pressure.

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bacterial meningitis

Hi there !My name is and I am new to the group. Does anybody out there have survival experience with bacterial meningitis ? It put me into a coma for 3 days in April this year. I need sinus surgery which is to be done in 8-10months time.( that's the waiting list I'm on ) the specialists in my town had advised that it be done urgently as there is a high chance of recurrence and quite frankly I don't feel I could go through another bout of this stuff!( apparently it was a sinus abcess that burst and got into my bloodstream ) Meanwhile, the headaches are constant and I feel like this problem is really taking over my life. Any suggestions re' insomnia and pain relief other than the darn old pills? I feel like I am in limbo re' treatment . Anyone else been through something similar ?

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, I have been through 5 bouts with meningitis..mine being viral. I was diagnosed in 1998 with Mollaret's Meningitis..otherwise, recurring meningitis which is of unknown cause. Like you, I still deal with constanct headaches of varying degrees plus several other after affects. Most of which are downplayed by the drs. If you would like to talk about this, please email me at terribrew@.... Terri B

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julie can you email me about group homes josiedugan56@,com Hope <epilepsyhealth@...> wrote:Blank Welcome - I am and fairly new to the group also. I have Epilepsy and joined because

of it. It is a great group and will find many friends here. I have never had meningitis I have looked after people that have had it (I work in a group home part time as a caregiver) but is easily got when the immune/defence system is impaired. Is this why you have to have the sinus surgery? Do you have a lot of trouble with your sinuses? I have trouble with mine on occasion too and there is an old fashion method that I use for clearing them, you maybe have tried it. Put boiling water in a sink and with a towel over your head lowered to just above the water do deep breathing. This can take several times to do but sure does clear those clogged drainage ways. I do have info here on how to get your immune system back in shape if you would like it. Please feel free to ask. Take care and wish you the best and have a great holiday season. HopeDegenerative

Disease Informationhttp://www.2betrhealth.com epilepsyhealth@... Saskatchewan, Canada1 306 648-2642 (CST) Hi there !My name is and I am new to the group. Does anybody out there have survival experience with bacterial meningitis ? It put me into a coma for 3 days in April this year. I need sinus surgery which is to be done in 8-10months time.( that's the waiting list I'm on ) the specialists in my town had advised that it be done urgently as there is a high chance of recurrence and quite frankly I don't feel I could go through another bout of this stuff!( apparently it was a sinus abcess that burst and got into my bloodstream ) Meanwhile, the headaches are constant and I feel like this problem is really taking over my life. Any suggestions re' insomnia and

pain relief other than the darn old pills? I feel like I am in limbo re' treatment . Anyone else been through something similar ? HopeDegenerative Disease Informationhttp://www.2betrhealth.com epilepsyhealth@... Saskatchewan, Canada1 306 648-2642 (CST) __________________________________________________

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Hey ,

I haven't had bacterial meningitis but I did have viral meningitis this summer. I have since been diagnosed with post-meningitis syndrome of which the very painful headaches and stiff neck common to meningitis occurs frequently without the virus that causes meningitis. My doctor has put me on amitryptyline for the syndrome, might be something to talk to your doctor about.

Thursday, December 14, 2006, 7:38:20 PM, you wrote:

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Hi there !

My name is and I am new to the group. Does anybody out there

have survival experience with bacterial meningitis ? It put me into a

coma for 3 days in April this year. I need sinus surgery which is to

be done in 8-10months time.( that's the waiting list I'm on ) the

specialists in my town had advised that it be done urgently as there is

a high chance of recurrence and quite frankly I don't feel I could go

through another bout of this stuff!( apparently it was a sinus abcess

that burst and got into my bloodstream ) Meanwhile, the headaches are

constant and I feel like this problem is really taking over my life.

Any suggestions re' insomnia and pain relief other than the darn old

pills? I feel like I am in limbo re' treatment . Anyone else been

through something similar ?

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i recover from bacterial meningitis in my brain when I was a baby you are at risk getting again and thats what my doc said to my mom.

dawn

-- bacterial meningitis

Hi there !My name is and I am new to the group. Does anybody out there have survival experience with bacterial meningitis ? It put me into a coma for 3 days in April this year. I need sinus surgery which is to be done in 8-10months time.( that's the waiting list I'm on ) the specialists in my town had advised that it be done urgently as there is a high chance of recurrence and quite frankly I don't feel I could go through another bout of this stuff!( apparently it was a sinus abcess that burst and got into my bloodstream ) Meanwhile, the headaches are constant and I feel like this problem is really taking over my life. Any suggestions re' insomnia and pain relief other than the darn old pills? I feel like I am in limbo re' treatment . Anyone else been through something similar ?

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Hi Terri !

I'll just try this e-mail as a dry run. Sure would like to talk about

after effects of this sickness. Thanks for trying to connect !

Warm hugs from northern Ontario -- --

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I've tried replying back to you but it bounces back. Terri

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I wouldn't freak out. In the early '90's we lived in a

smallish town that had a break out of viral

meningitis, which is different from bacterial but the

results were very interesting.

They had over half the school kids out sick. After a

week they closed all the schools (4 elementry, a

middle and a high school). 1/3 of the kids were in the

hospital, so many that they had to move them to

hospitals in other areas. Most of the kids were sick

for an average of three weeks.

My three children and another family with two children

were the only unvaccinated kids in the district. My

son did get it BUT he was only sick for 3 days. One

child from the other family also got sick, he was sick

for 5 days.

Unfortunately 12 people died during this outbreak.

Three were very elderly and not well. Two were infants

that were very sick already.

The unvaccinated kids to fair pretty well. I believe

their immune systems could handle it better because it

had not been bombarded with toxic waste from

vaccinations.

Viral and bacterial meningitis have the same symptoms,

at least that's what we were told.

The over use of antibiotics in their life will also

make a big difference in how they fair with

meningitis.

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> Big story in SE Wisconsin. I have to say, this

> illness freaks me out the most and I'm pretty

> unshakeable with my convictions. I think it's how

> quickly these teens have died and the symptoms

> aren't much different from general flu symptoms. My

> daughter gets headaches and stiff necks with all her

> fevers. Now I'm paranoid.

> L.

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exactly

Sheri

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At 07:26 PM 2/27/2007 -0800, you wrote:

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>I wouldn't freak out. In the early '90's we lived in a

>smallish town that had a break out of viral

>meningitis, which is different from bacterial but the

>results were very interesting.

>They had over half the school kids out sick. After a

>week they closed all the schools (4 elementry, a

>middle and a high school). 1/3 of the kids were in the

>hospital, so many that they had to move them to

>hospitals in other areas. Most of the kids were sick

>for an average of three weeks.

>My three children and another family with two children

>were the only unvaccinated kids in the district. My

>son did get it BUT he was only sick for 3 days. One

>child from the other family also got sick, he was sick

>for 5 days.

>Unfortunately 12 people died during this outbreak.

>Three were very elderly and not well. Two were infants

>that were very sick already.

>The unvaccinated kids to fair pretty well. I believe

>their immune systems could handle it better because it

>had not been bombarded with toxic waste from

>vaccinations.

>Viral and bacterial meningitis have the same symptoms,

>at least that's what we were told.

>The over use of antibiotics in their life will also

>make a big difference in how they fair with

>meningitis.

>

>--- troy and jennifer lucas <tlucas@...> wrote:

>

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>http://www.myfoxmilwaukee.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=2515411 & ver

sion=1 & locale=EN-US & layoutCode=VSTY & pageId=3.1.1

>> Big story in SE Wisconsin. I have to say, this

>> illness freaks me out the most and I'm pretty

>> unshakeable with my convictions. I think it's how

>> quickly these teens have died and the symptoms

>> aren't much different from general flu symptoms. My

>> daughter gets headaches and stiff necks with all her

>> fevers. Now I'm paranoid.

>> L.

>>

>> [Non-text portions of this message have been

>> removed]

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Here's info I share with people in my Vaccine Dangers & Child Disease classes

Similar issues with this child - how have vaccines affected, how was other

health? On drugs, medications, drinking? Lots of antibiotics in life?

It is really hard to say.

This is mostly seen on College Campuses

Meningococcal Meningitis on Campus

The vaccines available only covers 4 strains they say - A, C, Y & W-135

The concern is that meningitis is seen in college students and blamed on

one of the above or other strains.

I would suggest that the bacteria may not 'cause' the disease, but the

situation of the student and the lifestyle and health of the student is the

issue

Students have already gotten a lot of vaccines pre-admission

Their immune systems are suppressed and injured due to this

Students are under a lot of stress

Students live in a crowded environment

Students often are not eating healthfully whether eating dorm food or on

their own

Drug use among college students

Many issues here and all is a bit confusing

To blame a certain bacteria does not get at the root of why they are

susceptible, if indeed the bacteria causes anything.

Or are they ill and the bacteria is only present doing a job.

Sheri

http://www.meningitis-trust.org/disease_info/meningococcal_meningitis.php?ca

tegory=19 & sub=60

The bacteria are very common and live naturally in the back of the nose and

throat, or the upper respiratory tract. People of any age can carry the

bacteria for days, weeks or months without becoming ill. In fact, being a

carrier helps to boost natural immunity. At any one time, around 10 to 25

per cent of the population are carriers of meningococcal bacteria. Only

rarely do the bacteria overcome the body's defences and cause meningitis.

http://www.acha.org/projects_programs/meningitis/disease_info.cfm#overview

Overview of Meningococcal Disease

Meningococcal disease is a potentially life-threatening bacterial infection

that can lead to meningococcal meningitis, an inflammation of the membranes

surrounding the brain and spinal cord, or meningococcal septicemia, an

infection of the blood.

Meningococcal disease, caused by bacteria called Neisseria meningitidis, is

the leading cause of bacterial meningitis in older children and young

adults in the United States. It strikes 1,400 to 3,000 Americans each year

and is responsible for approximately 150 to 300 deaths.

Adolescents and young adults account for nearly 30 percent of all cases of

meningitis in the United States. In addition, approximately 100 to 125

cases of meningococcal disease occur on college campuses each year, and

five to 15 students will die as a result. Evidence shows approximately 70

to 80 percent of cases in the college age group are caused by serogroup C,

Y, or W-135, which are potentially vaccine-preventable.

Vaccination Recommendations for College Students

On February 10, 2005, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices

(ACIP) for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) voted to

recommend that all incoming college freshmen living in dormitories be

vaccinated against meningococcal disease. The ACIP also recommended

vaccination for all adolescents at high school entry and during

pre-adolescent health care visits (11 to 12 years old).

The American College Health Association (ACHA) issued similar immunization

recommendations for all first-year students living in residence halls. The

ACIP and ACHA recommendations further state that other college students

under 25 years of age may choose to receive meningococcal vaccination to

reduce their risk for the disease.

ACHA and ACIP recommendations, coupled with the availability of a new

vaccine that may provide longer duration of protection, will help increase

rates of immunization against meningococcal disease and will give college

health professionals the guidance needed to help protect college students

against meningococcal disease.

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Meningococcal Disease Caused by Five Strains/Serogroups

Five predominant strains or serogroups of N. meningitidis account for most

cases of meningococcal disease. These are A, B, C, Y, and W-135. The

currently available vaccine protects against four of the five strains (A,

C, Y, and W-135), and evidence shows approximately 70 to 80 percent of

cases in the college age group are caused by serogroup C, Y or W-135, which

are potentially vaccine-preventable. No vaccine is available for widespread

vaccination against serogroup B.

Transmission and Symptoms of the Disease

Meningococcal disease is contagious and progresses very rapidly. The

bacteria are spread person-to-person through the air by respiratory

droplets (e.g., coughing, sneezing). The bacteria also can be transmitted

through direct contact with an infected person, such as oral contact with

shared items like cigarettes or drinking glasses, and through kissing.

Meningococcal bacteria attach to the mucosal lining of the nose and throat,

where they can multiply. When the bacteria penetrate the mucosal lining and

enter the bloodstream, they move quickly throughout the body and can cause

damage to various organs.

Many people in a population can be a carrier of meningococcal bacteria (up

to 11 percent) in the nose and back of the throat, and usually nothing

happens to a person other than acquiring natural antibodies.

Symptoms of meningococcal disease often resemble those of the flu or other

minor febrile illness, making it sometimes difficult to diagnose, and may

include high fever, severe headache, stiff neck, rash, nausea, vomiting,

fatigue, and confusion. Students who notice these symptoms - in themselves,

friends, or others - especially if the symptoms are unusually sudden or

severe, should contact their college health center or local hospital.

If not treated early, meningitis can lead to death or permanent

disabilities. One in five of those who survive will suffer from long-term

side effects, such as brain damage, hearing loss, seizures, or limb

amputation.

Persons at Risk for the Disease, Including College Students

Meningococcal disease can affect people at any age. Infants are at the

highest risk for getting the disease. Disease rates fall through later

childhood but begin to rise again in early adolescence, peaking between the

ages of 15 and 20 years.

Due to lifestyle factors, such as crowded living situations, bar patronage,

active or passive smoking, irregular sleep patterns, and sharing of

personal items, college students living in residence halls are more likely

to acquire meningococcal disease than the general college population.

Prior to 1971, military recruits experienced high rates of meningococcal

disease, particularly serotype C disease. The United States military now

routinely vaccinates new recruits. Since the initiation of routine

vaccination of recruits, there has been an 87 percent reduction in sporadic

cases and a virtual elimination of outbreaks of invasive meningococcal

disease in the military.

In addition to increased risk because of crowded living situations,

proximity to a person diagnosed with disease (e.g., being a household

contact) also increases one's risk of disease. Other factors also increase

risk, such as a compromised immune system (which might be caused by

HIV/AIDS or taking certain chemotherapy or immuno-suppressants) or having

no spleen. Even something as simple as a respiratory tract infection may

increase the risk of getting the disease. Certain genetic risk factors also

may increase susceptibility to infection.

Vaccination to Prevent Meningococcal Disease

Meningococcal vaccination is recommended for all first-year students living

in residence halls to protect against four of the five most common strains

(or types) of N. meningitidis (A, C, Y, and W-135). In persons 15 to 24

years of age, 70 to 80 percent of cases are caused by potentially

vaccine-preventable strains. All other college students younger than 25 who

wish to reduce their risk of infection may choose to be vaccinated.

Because disease rates begin to climb earlier in adolescence and peak

between the ages of 15 and 20 years, the vaccine also is recommended for

adolescents at high school entry and young adolescents at the

pre-adolescent health care visit (11 and 12 year-olds).

The American College Health Association

The American College Health Association, the nation's principal advocate

and leadership organization for college and university health, represents a

diverse membership that provides and supports the delivery of health care

and prevention and wellness services for the nation's 16 million college

students. The association provides advocacy, education, communications,

products, and services, as well as promotes research and culturally

competent practices to enhance its members' ability to advance the health

of all students and the campus community. For more information, visit

www.acha.org.

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http://www.meningitis-trust.org/disease_info/meningococcal_meningitis.php?ca

tegory=19 & sub=60

In the UK Groups A and Y rarely cause disease. Group B accounts for the

highest number of cases. Group C accounts for the majority of the remaining

cases and is the main cause of clusters or outbreaks of the disease. In

recent years group W135 has caused a small number of cases.

In Ireland Groups A and Y rarely cause disease. Group B accounts for the

highest number of cases. Group C accounts for the majority of the remaining

cases and is the main cause of clusters or outbreaks of the disease. In

recent years group W135 has caused a small number of cases.

In Australia Groups A and Y rarely cause disease. Group B accounts for the

highest number of cases. Group C accounts for the majority of the remaining

cases and is the main cause of clusters or outbreaks of the disease. In

recent years group W135 has caused a small number of cases.

In New Zealand group B meningococcal disease accounts for the majority of

cases (around 93%). Group C causes the highest number of remaining cases

(around 6%). Group Y accounts for a small number of cases each year. Group

A rarely causes disease.

Bacterial meningitis is fairly uncommon, but it can be extremely serious.

It is fatal in one in 10 cases and one in seven survivors is left with a

serious disability, such as deafness or brain damage.

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http://www.meningitis.org/index.jsp?page=/content.jsp?sectno=5 & subno=12 & page

no=11

Group W135 is rarer than other forms, with only a few dozen cases a year.

However, since 2000, cases of W135 have risen, so that we now see over 100

cases per year in the UK. This has coincided with Group W135 outbreaks in

Africa, and amongst visitors to Mecca on the Hajj pilgrimage, including

pilgrims from across Europe, especially the UK. Close family contacts of

pilgrims have often been affected.

Group A meningococcal infection is almost unknown in the UK and Ireland,

but is prevalent in sub-Saharan Africa, Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan and parts

of India.

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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I can understand how you feel. I have gotten over my fear of illness years ago

but this is the only one that still can get to me from time to time. But still,

it is good to put it into perspective. Even on the news when they were talking

about this story, the reporter said the disease is extremely rare and there have

only been a few cases in so many years and this is the only one that has been

fatal. So it is still so rare even among all the vaxed kids out there that have

weakened immune systems. I had a friend growing up who got it when he was 17. He

survived with no complications. I've never heard of anyone else having the

disease before or since then. My sister had viral meningitis 3 times but that

was after getting her immune system screwed up from her military vaxes.

Jodi

bacterial meningitis

http://www.myfoxmilwaukee.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=2515411 & version=\

1 & locale=EN-US & layoutCode=VSTY & pageId=3.1.1

Big story in SE Wisconsin. I have to say, this illness freaks me out the most

and I'm pretty unshakeable with my convictions. I think it's how quickly these

teens have died and the symptoms aren't much different from general flu

symptoms. My daughter gets headaches and stiff necks with all her fevers. Now

I'm paranoid.

L.