Re: Major changes in the 2007 Pediatric Vaccine Schedule

[Guest guest]

BTW, nature may have the last laugh after all. After all the

antibiotics and vaccinations that we've poured into the populace, it's

only a matter of time for the bugs to get stronger and disease us into

a smaller population. However, better to prevent the births ahead of

time than to make people suffer as they watch their loved ones die of

disease. -Angie

On Sunday, January 7, 2007, at 03:24 PM, Anita Durney wrote:

>

>

> Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote:

> I'm also curious as to why you consider anybody trying to control world

> population sinister.

>

>

>

> Isn't that a job for God and nature, not man?....Anita

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

OK, so you're talking about multiple strains of virus in each shot. Now

those numbers make sense to me. I didn't know what you were saying.

-Angie

On Sunday, January 7, 2007, at 03:48 PM, Anita Durney wrote:

> You are right about the final number, kay. Actually, Tenpenny said 77

> in all by age 5 and 95 if you give the flu shot each year that

> contains 3 viruses per shot. We forget that Prevnar contains several

> different viruses in one shot. Now add the new ones and we are looking

> at more......Anita

>

> Kay <dr-ky@...> wrote: I did a quick count of the CDCs

> recommended pediatric immunization schedule.

> I came up with 70 diseases total (20 different diseases/strains given

> multiple times before age 5). 42 diseases injected by 6 months (7

> diseases

> given multiple times).

>

> Kay

>

> Re: Re: Major changes in the 2007 Pediatric

> Vaccine

> Schedule

>

> >I mean injections containing a hundred diseases, many of them

> repeats. But

> >a hundred nonetheless and everytime you return for more of the same,

> they

> >come from different lots. Essentially, that could mean 100 slightly

> altered

> >diseases by the time a child is five...couldn't it? Maybe that's a

> bit of

> >stretch. But there are such things called Hot Lots that can be traced

> when

> >adverse reaction takes place.

> >

> > Sheri Tenpenny lays all out very nicely. Try to watch the video Dan

> > posted. i know it's long, but can be watched in segments.

> >

> > Totten wrote:

> > Anita,

> >

> > Can you show the math on that? I hear people give these figures all

> the

> > time and they confuse me. You don't mean 100 diseases... because

> vaxxes

> > aren't for that many... what exactly do you mean? Thx -Angie

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, I can see where the numbers are derived from if you count every single

possible vax that COULD be given. The Hep. A and meningococcal (MPSV4) are

not routinely given in my area (yet). So, I didn't count those initially.

And the chicken pox vax has a booster now at age 5, so that's one additional

one to add to your list below. And if you count a flu shot every year

starting at 6 mos. that would equal 15 total, bringing the number up to 92

(almost Dr. Tenpenny's number).

Thanks for helping me sort this out, Anita.

Kay

Re: Re: Major changes in the 2007 Pediatric Vaccine

Schedule

> Sheri and Kay,

>

> I just got off the phone with the pediatrician's office with the CDC

> schedule in my hand for children 0 - 6 yrs. This is what I came up with:

>

> HepB - 1 vaccine per shot - 3 shot series = 3

>

> Rota - 1 vaccine per shot - 3 shot series = 3

>

> DTaP - 3 vaccines per shot - 5 shots series = 15

>

> Hib - 1 vaccine per shot - 4 shot series/possible 5 for high risk = 4

> for argument sake

>

> PCV - 7 vaccines per shot - 4 shot series = 28

>

> IPV - 3 vaccines per shot - 4 shots series = 16

>

> MMR - 3 vaccines per shot - 2 shot series = 6

>

> Varicella - 1 vaccine per shot - 1 shot = 1

>

> FLU - 3 vaccines per shot - 1 shot = 3

>

> HepA - 1 vaccine per dose - 2 shot series = 2

>

> MPSV4 - 1 vaccine per shot - 1 shot = 1

>

> That's 11 different shots total with 8 being mandatory, though my ped's

> office strongly recommends all 11. I would imagine more children are

> getting 11 than are getting 8. If my calculations are correct, that adds

> up to 76 vaccines for the first 8 mandatory plus additional 6 for the

> final three. 82 is not 95 (all inclusive) Sheri Tenpenny talked about.

> Please go over my vaccines per shot; I'm not entirely sure I got that

> right. If this is correct, we need to find out where Tenpenny is getting

> her numbers from. I sent those out to some pretty important people.

>

> Thanks,

> Anita

[Guest guest]

Once I watched Tenpenny's video again, I remembered how she described it by

using the word vaccines to describe the strains, viruses, diseases, whatever you

want to call them. Prevnar has 7 vaccines in one shot. That was much better and

made more sense than the way I was describing it. Although most of you knew what

I was trying to say, I think.

Anita

Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote:

OK, so you're talking about multiple strains of virus in each shot. Now

those numbers make sense to me. I didn't know what you were saying.

-Angie

On Sunday, January 7, 2007, at 03:48 PM, Anita Durney wrote:

> You are right about the final number, kay. Actually, Tenpenny said 77

> in all by age 5 and 95 if you give the flu shot each year that

> contains 3 viruses per shot. We forget that Prevnar contains several

> different viruses in one shot. Now add the new ones and we are looking

> at more......Anita

>

> Kay wrote: I did a quick count of the CDCs

> recommended pediatric immunization schedule.

> I came up with 70 diseases total (20 different diseases/strains given

> multiple times before age 5). 42 diseases injected by 6 months (7

> diseases

> given multiple times).

>

> Kay

>

> Re: Re: Major changes in the 2007 Pediatric

> Vaccine

> Schedule

>

> >I mean injections containing a hundred diseases, many of them

> repeats. But

> >a hundred nonetheless and everytime you return for more of the same,

> they

> >come from different lots. Essentially, that could mean 100 slightly

> altered

> >diseases by the time a child is five...couldn't it? Maybe that's a

> bit of

> >stretch. But there are such things called Hot Lots that can be traced

> when

> >adverse reaction takes place.

> >

> > Sheri Tenpenny lays all out very nicely. Try to watch the video Dan

> > posted. i know it's long, but can be watched in segments.

> >

> > Totten wrote:

> > Anita,

> >

> > Can you show the math on that? I hear people give these figures all

> the

> > time and they confuse me. You don't mean 100 diseases... because

> vaxxes

> > aren't for that many... what exactly do you mean? Thx -Angie

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

So, wait, do ALL of you believe this??!!! Seriously?!! People!!!

Anybody intent on controlling world population is failing miserably, as

any glance at world population figures will tell you.

Guys, this really undermines my faith in you and this list. -Angie

On Monday, January 8, 2007, at 07:27 AM, ingrid5317 wrote:

>

> >

> > I'm also curious as to why you consider anybody trying to control

> world

> > population sinister.

> >

> > -Angie

>

> There is lots of good info about this, based on facts, in this book.

> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Emerging-Viruses-Vaccinations-REGION-NTSC/dp/

> B000FS2WKI/sr=8-2/qid=1168259182/ref=sr_1_2/026-5435095-

> 7989227?ie=UTF8 & s=dvd

> It is not sinister, it is true!

> Ingrid

> >

>

>

**********

" At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

the ability. " -Ron White

[Guest guest]

No problem, Kay. I forgot about the Varicella booster. Yikes! That actually

brings it up to 98 if you take them all. I can tell you they are and have been

pushing the HepB, Influenza and Meningoccocal vaccines in my neck of the woods.

I'm sure most people are going for the whole set to " protect " their children.

Although, I think I read somewhere the MPSV4 is quite expensive. What do you

know about it?....Anita

Kay <dr-ky@...> wrote: Ok, I can see where the numbers are derived

from if you count every single

possible vax that COULD be given. The Hep. A and meningococcal (MPSV4) are

not routinely given in my area (yet). So, I didn't count those initially.

And the chicken pox vax has a booster now at age 5, so that's one additional

one to add to your list below. And if you count a flu shot every year

starting at 6 mos. that would equal 15 total, bringing the number up to 92

(almost Dr. Tenpenny's number).

Thanks for helping me sort this out, Anita.

Kay

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I agree with you that something does need to be done about this ever growing

population! I think that there are people who are intent on trying to control

the population, but I don't believe that it includes our current administration.

We have people in power who are doing whatever they can to limit a woman's right

to abortion and to limit their access to birth control, both of which help to

control the number of children a woman gives birth to. I could see the

government wanting to get rid of the poor or other " undesirables " though. I

heard a theory that aids was created as a means of getting rid of some of those,

who knows?

---- Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote:

> So, wait, do ALL of you believe this??!!! Seriously?!! People!!!

>

> Anybody intent on controlling world population is failing miserably, as

> any glance at world population figures will tell you.

>

> Guys, this really undermines my faith in you and this list. -Angie

>

>

>

> On Monday, January 8, 2007, at 07:27 AM, ingrid5317 wrote:

>

> >

> > >

> > > I'm also curious as to why you consider anybody trying to control

> > world

> > > population sinister.

> > >

> > > -Angie

> >

> > There is lots of good info about this, based on facts, in this book.

> > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Emerging-Viruses-Vaccinations-REGION-NTSC/dp/

> > B000FS2WKI/sr=8-2/qid=1168259182/ref=sr_1_2/026-5435095-

> > 7989227?ie=UTF8 & s=dvd

> > It is not sinister, it is true!

> > Ingrid

> > >

> >

> >

> **********

> " At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

> the ability. " -Ron White

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As much as I would have loved to have a bus load of children, we did the zero

population growth thing by just replacing ourselves. I have a child from a

relationship before my marriage so I was lucky enough to have three.

;~).....Anita

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: No problem, Kay. I forgot about the

Varicella booster. Yikes! That actually brings it up to 98 if you take them all.

I can tell you they are and have been pushing the HepB, Influenza and

Meningoccocal vaccines in my neck of the woods. I'm sure most people are going

for the whole set to " protect " their children. Although, I think I read

somewhere the MPSV4 is quite expensive. What do you know about it?....Anita

Kay wrote: Ok, I can see where the numbers are derived from if you count every

single

possible vax that COULD be given. The Hep. A and meningococcal (MPSV4) are

not routinely given in my area (yet). So, I didn't count those initially.

And the chicken pox vax has a booster now at age 5, so that's one additional

one to add to your list below. And if you count a flu shot every year

starting at 6 mos. that would equal 15 total, bringing the number up to 92

(almost Dr. Tenpenny's number).

Thanks for helping me sort this out, Anita.

Kay

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

Either way, the intentions of the those in power will leave us to suffer. I

don't think vaccines are meant to kill us off as much as they are meant to keep

us sick in order to keep feeding the money machine. I can't say the same for the

poor folks in third world countries that are given certain vaccines we wouldn't

dream of giving our own; not anymore, anyway.

There we may see an ugliness we don't want to face. You can't sleep thinking

about all the hungry children that you believe shouldn't have been born in the

first place. I couldn't sleep if I had anything to do with their elimination

after the fact. Once they are here, they are not disposable or meant for

experimentation....Anita

Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote:

BTW, nature may have the last laugh after all. After all the

antibiotics and vaccinations that we've poured into the populace, it's

only a matter of time for the bugs to get stronger and disease us into

a smaller population. However, better to prevent the births ahead of

time than to make people suffer as they watch their loved ones die of

disease. -Angie

On Sunday, January 7, 2007, at 03:24 PM, Anita Durney wrote:

>

>

> Totten wrote:

> I'm also curious as to why you consider anybody trying to control world

> population sinister.

>

>

>

> Isn't that a job for God and nature, not man?....Anita

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, the 70s was the high water mark for concern about population

growth -- and I recall this being across the board, not just with

Kissinger, as the conspiracy theory article mentioned. Most people I

knew had 2 kids in their families, but U.S. # of kids is increasing

again for the first time in a while, and not because of immigration,

but because American women are having more kids. This subject came up

on another board, this is where I got that info. In my own experience,

every mom I know has at LEAST 3 kids, 3, not 2, being the preferred

number these days. In the homebirth, crunchy community I hang with, the

tendency is to have even MORE kids. -Angie

On Monday, January 8, 2007, at 08:51 PM, Anita Durney wrote:

> As much as I would have loved to have a bus load of children, we did

> the zero population growth thing by just replacing ourselves. I have a

> child from a relationship before my marriage so I was lucky enough to

> have three. ;~).....Anita

>

> Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: No problem, Kay. I forgot

> about the Varicella booster. Yikes! That actually brings it up to 98

> if you take them all. I can tell you they are and have been pushing

> the HepB, Influenza and Meningoccocal vaccines in my neck of the

> woods. I'm sure most people are going for the whole set to " protect "

> their children. Although, I think I read somewhere the MPSV4 is quite

> expensive. What do you know about it?....Anita

>

> Kay wrote: Ok, I can see where the numbers are derived from if you

> count every single

> possible vax that COULD be given. The Hep. A and meningococcal (MPSV4)

> are

> not routinely given in my area (yet). So, I didn't count those

> initially.

>

> And the chicken pox vax has a booster now at age 5, so that's one

> additional

> one to add to your list below. And if you count a flu shot every year

> starting at 6 mos. that would equal 15 total, bringing the number up

> to 92

> (almost Dr. Tenpenny's number).

>

> Thanks for helping me sort this out, Anita.

>

> Kay

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

On Monday, January 8, 2007, at 09:28 PM, Anita Durney wrote:

> Hi Angie,

>

> Either way, the intentions of the those in power will leave us to

> suffer.

I'm not so sure. Check out this website: www.fews.net and look at all

the effort at least ONE agency is putting out to figure out food

crises, etc. in recipient nations. I don't think everyone who goes into

government/business has only evil intentions; that would not be

realistic, anyway. Nobody is completely evil. Do some of their good

intentions lead us into suffering... yeah, probably.

> I don't think vaccines are meant to kill us off as much as they are

> meant to keep us sick in order to keep feeding the money machine.

They're keeping us sick, but I don't think the people making them

realize what they're doing. Denial or whatever. Wait a minute, I think

we've had this conversation before.

> I can't say the same for the poor folks in third world countries that

> are given certain vaccines we wouldn't dream of giving our own; not

> anymore, anyway.

>

> There we may see an ugliness we don't want to face. You can't sleep

> thinking about all the hungry children that you believe shouldn't have

> been born in the first place. I couldn't sleep if I had anything to do

> with their elimination after the fact. Once they are here, they are

> not disposable or meant for experimentation....Anita

Agree 100% -Angie

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

I promise to look at the website you sent; I'm not very informed in this area.

Just a few comments below.

Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote:

I don't think everyone who goes into

government/business has only evil intentions; that would not be

realistic, anyway. Nobody is completely evil. Do some of their good

intentions lead us into suffering... yeah, probably.

>No argument there. The way I see it, many who go into govenrment/business are

bought and controlled by the elite. Like the general public, these poor bastards

are also " herded " and caught up in the " evil " which is a byproduct of greed.

Hey, Angie, this is just how I feel; no need to debate; I'm not saying you're

wrong. You have opened my eyes a lot since I met you. I hope you can see that I

don't believe every doctor (really the nurses) running around with a needle or

prescribing drugs has " evil " intentions. They too are victims in many ways.

Money distorts everything......Anita

They're keeping us sick, but I don't think the people making them

realize what they're doing. Denial or whatever. Wait a minute, I think

we've had this conversation before.

>Yeah babe, we had this one before. Please consider one last thing. If the

billionaire drugmakers KNOW that their drugs are doing NOTHING to promote health

and breaking us down and making us sick and medically dependant, how can you say

they don't know what they are doing? Maybe you speak of all the folks (starting

in high places) that fall under these superpowers....Anita

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Actually, we discussed this in my environmental science class and my professor

has said that the growth is from immigration, not that I think that immigration

is a bad thing, but the number of children per family is still low. According

to the 2000 census, the only state that has a per family average over 2 is Utah

and that is 2.21 per family. Of course, there will be some families with more

and some with less. There are more women who are choosing to not have children,

as it isn't seen as such a taboo anymore, as women are realizing that they do

not need to have children to lead a fulfilled life.

I also think that another cause of the population growth is that people are

living longer. They may be sicker and on more drugs than they used to be, but

they are living longer.

---- Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote:

> Yes, the 70s was the high water mark for concern about population

> growth -- and I recall this being across the board, not just with

> Kissinger, as the conspiracy theory article mentioned. Most people I

> knew had 2 kids in their families, but U.S. # of kids is increasing

> again for the first time in a while, and not because of immigration,

> but because American women are having more kids. This subject came up

> on another board, this is where I got that info. In my own experience,

> every mom I know has at LEAST 3 kids, 3, not 2, being the preferred

> number these days. In the homebirth, crunchy community I hang with, the

> tendency is to have even MORE kids. -Angie

>

>

> On Monday, January 8, 2007, at 08:51 PM, Anita Durney wrote:

>

> > As much as I would have loved to have a bus load of children, we did

> > the zero population growth thing by just replacing ourselves. I have a

> > child from a relationship before my marriage so I was lucky enough to

> > have three. ;~).....Anita

> >

> > Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: No problem, Kay. I forgot

> > about the Varicella booster. Yikes! That actually brings it up to 98

> > if you take them all. I can tell you they are and have been pushing

> > the HepB, Influenza and Meningoccocal vaccines in my neck of the

> > woods. I'm sure most people are going for the whole set to " protect "

> > their children. Although, I think I read somewhere the MPSV4 is quite

> > expensive. What do you know about it?....Anita

> >

> > Kay wrote: Ok, I can see where the numbers are derived from if you

> > count every single

> > possible vax that COULD be given. The Hep. A and meningococcal (MPSV4)

> > are

> > not routinely given in my area (yet). So, I didn't count those

> > initially.

> >

> > And the chicken pox vax has a booster now at age 5, so that's one

> > additional

> > one to add to your list below. And if you count a flu shot every year

> > starting at 6 mos. that would equal 15 total, bringing the number up

> > to 92

> > (almost Dr. Tenpenny's number).

> >

> > Thanks for helping me sort this out, Anita.

> >

> > Kay

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

yes

At 05:32 PM 1/8/2007 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Sheri,

>

>Nope, I sure didn't. That could be what I'm missing in the count. Is it

>for 3 different strains of polio per shot?

>

>Kay

>

> Re: Re: Major changes in the 2007 Pediatric Vaccine

>Schedule

>

>

>> did you count 3 for each polio vaccine?

--------------------------------------------------------

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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[Guest guest]

>They're keeping us sick, but I don't think the people making them

>realize what they're doing. Denial or whatever. Wait a minute, I think

>we've had this conversation before.

>

They know what they are doing

Remember those tobacco guys standing up before Congress with their hands up

swearing truth?

They knew.......

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

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Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

[Guest guest]

The only time the MPSV4 is recommended around here is before attending

college. I've not heard of any children receiving it, and I've been through

all 700+ vax records at the school where I work.

I don't know of any children around here getting the Hep A vaxes either.

Hep B, yes, but not the Hep A. Maybe in other parts of the country. ??

Kay

Re: Re: Major changes in the 2007 Pediatric Vaccine

Schedule

> No problem, Kay. I forgot about the Varicella booster. Yikes! That

> actually brings it up to 98 if you take them all. I can tell you they are

> and have been pushing the HepB, Influenza and Meningoccocal vaccines in my

> neck of the woods. I'm sure most people are going for the whole set to

> " protect " their children. Although, I think I read somewhere the MPSV4 is

> quite expensive. What do you know about it?....Anita

[Guest guest]

I was wondering when somebody was going to bring this (the tobacco

company issue) up. A " pleasure " product is different from something

touted as helping children, I think. Attracts different sorts of

people, permits you to operate with less of a conscience. I'm going to

allow that there might be one or two people (or maybe 3 or 4) who know

that their product (vaccines) is causing harm, but most people are not

going to be able to live with themselves harming babies (as opposed to

tobacco, where the youngest harmed are teens). Anyway, I'm just not

going to believe in a conspiracy about this to the extent many of you

are. I just don't think it's realistic, I think it shows a lack of

understanding of how the world really works (in contrast to what

believers in conspiracies usually think, which is that they have a

unique grip on how the world " really " works) and I think it actually

undermines the real evil that's going on, which is the collective

belief in a falsehood. Vets can admit that certain vaccines are leading

to carcinoma (as they have)in pets, but doctors admitting that

children's vaccines are causing harm would be admitting something too

horrifying for most of them to live with.

Sorry, lots of annoying parentheses in this email. -Angie

On Tuesday, January 9, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

> They know what they are doing

>

> Remember those tobacco guys standing up before Congress with their

> hands up

> swearing truth?

> They knew.......

[Guest guest]

> Hey, Angie, this is just how I feel; no need to debate;

I know; I don't like rehashing stuff either.

> You have opened my eyes a lot since I met you.

Really? Thanks. That's really nice of you to say.

Take care, Angie

[Guest guest]

At 06:31 PM 1/10/2007 -0500, you wrote:

>The only time the MPSV4 is recommended around here is before attending

>college. I've not heard of any children receiving it, and I've been through

>all 700+ vax records at the school where I work.

>

>I don't know of any children around here getting the Hep A vaxes either.

>Hep B, yes, but not the Hep A. Maybe in other parts of the country. ??

yes, other parts get hep a

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

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Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

[Guest guest]

At 01:30 PM 1/11/2007 -0500, you wrote:

>I was wondering when somebody was going to bring this (the tobacco

>company issue) up. A " pleasure " product is different from something

>touted as helping children, I think. Attracts different sorts of

>people, permits you to operate with less of a conscience. I'm going to

>allow that there might be one or two people (or maybe 3 or 4) who know

>that their product (vaccines) is causing harm, but most people are not

>going to be able to live with themselves harming babies (as opposed to

>tobacco, where the youngest harmed are teens). Anyway, I'm just not

>going to believe in a conspiracy about this to the extent many of you

>are. I just don't think it's realistic, I think it shows a lack of

>understanding of how the world really works (in contrast to what

>believers in conspiracies usually think, which is that they have a

>unique grip on how the world " really " works) and I think it actually

>undermines the real evil that's going on, which is the collective

>belief in a falsehood. Vets can admit that certain vaccines are leading

>to carcinoma (as they have)in pets, but doctors admitting that

>children's vaccines are causing harm would be admitting something too

>horrifying for most of them to live with.

Sorry don't agree

We have people who want to be whistleblowers but can't for fear for their

families and lives

You give people at the head of the corporations too much credit.

>

Doctors is another issue.

Sheri

>

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[Guest guest]

They are recommended in Suffolk County, NY.....Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At 06:31 PM 1/10/2007 -0500, you

wrote:

>The only time the MPSV4 is recommended around here is before attending

>college. I've not heard of any children receiving it, and I've been through

>all 700+ vax records at the school where I work.

>

>I don't know of any children around here getting the Hep A vaxes either.

>Hep B, yes, but not the Hep A. Maybe in other parts of the country. ??

yes, other parts get hep a

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>

> We have people who want to be whistleblowers but can't for fear for

> their

> families and lives

Can you be more specific? Do you mean people you know, or...? What

exactly are they afraid of or what will happen to their families and

lives? Do you have any examples of whistleblowers (besides Dr.

Wakefield) who have suffered grave harm?

>

> You give people at the head of the corporations too much credit.

>

Perhaps. But just because you're the head of a corporation doesn't mean

you're automatically bad.

-Angie

[Guest guest]

At 11:55 PM 1/11/2007 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>> We have people who want to be whistleblowers but can't for fear for

>> their

>> families and lives

>

>Can you be more specific? Do you mean people you know, or...? What

>exactly are they afraid of or what will happen to their families and

>lives? Do you have any examples of whistleblowers (besides Dr.

>Wakefield) who have suffered grave harm?

There are people that I and another know that are fearful to come forward.

That is all I can say and that probably is not enough. I have been sworn

to secrecy.

>

>>

>> You give people at the head of the corporations too much credit.

>>

>Perhaps. But just because you're the head of a corporation doesn't mean

>you're automatically bad.

>-Angie

No one said that it did. But once you have been immersed in this field for

15+ years, as I have, you see the underbelly of the beast.

Take it or leave it. Read all that I and others have had gathered for that

long and you will begin to see.

Sheri

>>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> > We have people who want to be whistleblowers but can't for fear for

> > their

> > families and lives

>

> Can you be more specific? Do you mean people you know, or...? What

> exactly are they afraid of or what will happen to their families and

> lives? Do you have any examples of whistleblowers (besides Dr.

> Wakefield) who have suffered grave harm?

It sounds like " Just a little prick " by is a good read

for more info on this subject, she has evidence and references, lots

of them, in her book. Can highly recommend it.

I know of doctors that don't vaccinate their own kids and warn parents

of the MMR but would not admit it in public. I wonder how they can

live with such a conciense.

Ingrid

[Guest guest]

> 15+ years, as I have, you see the underbelly of the beast.

> Take it or leave it. Read all that I and others have had gathered

for that

> long and you will begin to see.

> Sheri

>

Totally, Sheri! I agree! I have spent my last 7 years doing just this

and it is very sobering to " wake up " !

It takes courage to accept it but it sets you free!

Ingrid