Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 My point was that I was told my children would not be admitted to school after Sept. 14. I haven't had them vaccinated, don't plan to, and have never claimed the exemption. I haven't done a thing. Now the county is saying that ALL children in grades K-4 have been vaccinated. Not true. Because my son hasn't been. So now they are saying that any child in grades 5-9 not vaccinated will not be admitted into school after January14. We'll see. Lynn Re: Best states ? You don't have to prove anything - you just take the exemption PERIOD Sheri At 11:32 AM 12/29/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Actually ALL children in grades K - 9 are supposed to have these vaccines. I live in Md and got a letter last summer telling me I had to prove that my children have these vaccines. I have yet to send anything at all in and haven't heard a word. My children are in grades 2 and 5. According to recent articles in the newspaper, it says that all the children in grades K-4 are up to date, but that many children in grades 5-9 have not been vaccinated. > >Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Hi Lynn, from experience, I'll say that it's normal for the school (any school) to tell you that. I haven't quite figured out whether teachers/school staff are misinformed or whether they're deliberately misleading parents. Find the relevant law for your state, follow it and write your religious or phil. exemption, and the school won't object. As long as YOU know the law, you're the better informed person and can tell whoever might raise objections at the school to educate themselves. When we moved to NC some years ago, I was harrassed on a daily basis by the school secretary for the first four weeks. She'd phone and tell me if I don't get my dd vaccinated, she'll be expelled after one month. On the twenty-ninth day I presented her with my written religious exemption, and her face dropped, but she grudgingly accepted it because she didn't have a choice, it's the law, after all. Don't let these bullies make you believe you those lies they tell. Find out the law yourself and follow it with regard to the exemption. They have no choice but to accept. Hth, --- Lynn Collea-Price <lhasaluvr@...> wrote: > My point was that I was told my children would not > be admitted to school after Sept. 14. I haven't had > them vaccinated, don't plan to, and have never > claimed the exemption. I haven't done a thing. Now > the county is saying that ALL children in grades K-4 > have been vaccinated. Not true. Because my son > hasn't been. So now they are saying that any child > in grades 5-9 not vaccinated will not be admitted > into school after January14. We'll see. > > Lynn > > > Re: Best states ? > > > You don't have to prove anything - you just take > the exemption PERIOD > Sheri > > At 11:32 AM 12/29/2006 -0500, you wrote: > >Actually ALL children in grades K - 9 are > supposed to have these vaccines. > I live in Md and got a letter last summer telling > me I had to prove that my > children have these vaccines. I have yet to send > anything at all in and > haven't heard a word. My children are in grades 2 > and 5. According to > recent articles in the newspaper, it says that all > the children in grades > K-4 are up to date, but that many children in > grades 5-9 have not been > vaccinated. > > > >Lynn > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 'If you steal from one author, it's plagiarism; if you steal from many, it's research' - Mizner http://lady-karelia.livejournal.com/ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Another approach to explaining vaccine refusal is to place the religious matter upon the vaccinator rather than yourself. Instead of claiming that vaccines violate your religion, which makes you and your religion the problem, emphasize that you refuse to partake in the vaccination rite of the vaccinator's religion. Just because allopaths see their craft as secular and supposedly outside of religion doesn't mean it is so. Whatever you care to label their religion is up to you. This can be done with friends and family as well, just turn it all around on these people. For the formal legal exemption simply do what the law says and state you object for religious reasons and don't do any unnecessary explaining. My suggestion above is just another line of reasoning to use against those that launch an attack. Have some fun with it. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 At 09:26 PM 12/29/2006 -0500, you wrote: >My point was that I was told my children would not be admitted to school after Sept. 14. I haven't had them vaccinated, don't plan to, and have never claimed the exemption. I haven't done a thing. Now the county is saying that ALL children in grades K-4 have been vaccinated. Not true. Because my son hasn't been. So now they are saying that any child in grades 5-9 not vaccinated will not be admitted into school after January14. We'll see. > >Lynn > You have to claim the exemption or they can throw your children out. That is their right according to their law. Its easy, just do the exemption and stay out of the line of fire. Sheri > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 As a public school teacher in a big city, most likely the district had some sort of audit and got in trouble for not having all of their paperwork in order-- In Wisconsin, you can't even enroll a child without the birth certificate and the vaccine records. On the form for enrollment they had a boxes to check off for medical, religious, and philosophical so for us it wasn't a problem. What I have seen as a HUGE problem is that the district will automatically send parents these threatening letters from the district attorney as soon as the child is near the next shot due date--even if they still have time according to their doctors etc. It says that if they don't comply that they will be fined $25 or 50 a day until they do and their child will be barred from school etc. Sometimes the secretaries have just lost the original paperwork and what do the parents do? Instead of getting a new copy from doctors (which is a huge pain if you've moved--lots of my students are from Mexico or Puerto Rico) so they just get them re-vaccinated! Man talk about bad! And usually I don't find out as the teacher until after it's already happened and they are asking me to make sure the form doesn't get lost again.... so sad. Jen L. Re: Best states ? > My point was that I was told my children would not be admitted to school > after Sept. 14. I haven't had them vaccinated, don't plan to, and have > never claimed the exemption. I haven't done a thing. Now the county is > saying that ALL children in grades K-4 have been vaccinated. Not true. > Because my son hasn't been. So now they are saying that any child in > grades 5-9 not vaccinated will not be admitted into school after > January14. We'll see. > > Lynn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 ly, this is a good tactic except for the fact that most doctors have the law on their side, so they can sic the police or DCFS social workers on your @$$. So telling them that they are practicing an unfounded belief (quackery) or behaving as a priest of the religion of modern medicine is in truth factual but will not, in my ever so humble opinion, get you anywhere. --- <vaccinegenocide@...> wrote: > Another approach to explaining vaccine refusal is to > place the > religious matter upon the vaccinator rather than > yourself. Instead of > claiming that vaccines violate your religion, which > makes you and your > religion the problem, emphasize that you refuse to > partake in the > vaccination rite of the vaccinator's religion. Just > because allopaths > see their craft as secular and supposedly outside of > religion doesn't > mean it is so. Whatever you care to label their > religion is up to you. > This can be done with friends and family as well, > just turn it all > around on these people. > > For the formal legal exemption simply do what the > law says and > state you object for religious reasons and don't do > any unnecessary > explaining. My suggestion above is just another line > of reasoning to > use against those that launch an attack. Have some > fun with it. > > Dan > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 So sorry, I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death - but, I've been gone the past week, and am now just getting a chance to get caught up on email (everything else is another matter) - So, last I'll say on this - and I apologize Anita, I was just giving my " personal religious beliefs " - those however are something I would never use in an exemption for claiming religious grounds. With that, and I'd strongly recommend it for anyone, I will use what's required for MI law. I know there's a difference between my beliefs and the law - and I'll do what's legit. Hope everyone had a very Merry Christmas and wonderful new year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Hey Randi, I'm glad that's message at the end of it. Wouldn't want to steer anyone in the wrong direction..... Anita Randi Airola <randiceaj@...> wrote: So sorry, I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death - but, I've been gone the past week, and am now just getting a chance to get caught up on email (everything else is another matter) - So, last I'll say on this - and I apologize Anita, I was just giving my " personal religious beliefs " - those however are something I would never use in an exemption for claiming religious grounds. With that, and I'd strongly recommend it for anyone, I will use what's required for MI law. I know there's a difference between my beliefs and the law - and I'll do what's legit. Hope everyone had a very Merry Christmas and wonderful new year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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