Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Can anyone tell me which states are the best to live in regarding vaccination freedoms ? I'm interested in looking beyond whether or not there is a philosophical exemption allowed, into things like the state's requirements for written documentation, track record of harassment and intimidation, etc. Basically I'm interested in finding out which states are pretty good about just leaving parents alone. We may be in a good situation to move soon and I would like to find a state that is an excellent place to non-vax and homeschool. I know how to look up which states allow a philosophical exemption, but I am thinking this is not enough information to go by. If some of the states which allow a philosophical exemption have requirements that it be all or nothing or challenge you if you go in for other preventive care, or have requirements that the exemption actually be filed somewhere every year, or have a record of harassing parents who don't fully vax, then that exemption doesn't really indicate a good environment in that state for non-vaxing. I was just wondering if this has been discussed here and different states have been compared, or if someone has already dug into this and come up with a short list of good states for this type of personal freedom.... Thanks ! B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Ohio has been good. " B. " <llp33@...> wrote: Can anyone tell me which states are the best to live in regarding vaccination freedoms ? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 , this is just my opinion, so, take it for what it's worth. I live in MI which has all 3 exemption. Myself personally, I have an 11 month old, and will take the religious route. It's my personal belief that God has given us what we need to defend off diseases given our immune systems, and any alteration to that is a recipe for disaster. It's also my personal belief that a religious waiver will hold up much stronger than a philosophical one. There are many measures that are being taken which are trying to eliminate exemptions from states, and it is again, in my personal opinion, the religious one will be the hardest to eliminate. (albeit, not entirely). If anyone does not believe in abortion, then, they should take the religious exemption, given that aborted fetus's are used in some of the vaccinations given to our children. I know Sheri has some information on her site regarding exemptions, another site is: http:www.nvic.org, click on " state information " and there will be the exemptions and state codes for the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 California is excellent. I've never had a problem and have never heard of anyone else here having a problem with exemptions. All you need to do is sign the back of the vaccine card. The statement is already written on there that vaccines are against your philosophical beliefs. That's it. I signed it 8 years ago and have never been asked about it since. There's also a great homeschool community here and plenty of alternative schools. Jane Jane Sheppard Healthy Child http://www.healthychild.com > > Can anyone tell me which states are the best to live in regarding > vaccination freedoms ? I'm interested in looking beyond whether or not > there is a philosophical exemption allowed, into things like the > state's requirements for written documentation, track record of > harassment and intimidation, etc. Basically I'm interested in finding > out which states are pretty good about just leaving parents alone. We > may be in a good situation to move soon and I would like to find a > state that is an excellent place to non-vax and homeschool. > > I know how to look up which states allow a philosophical exemption, > but I am thinking this is not enough information to go by. If some of > the states which allow a philosophical exemption have requirements > that it be all or nothing or challenge you if you go in for other > preventive care, or have requirements that the exemption actually be > filed somewhere every year, or have a record of harassing parents who > don't fully vax, then that exemption doesn't really indicate a good > environment in that state for non-vaxing. > > I was just wondering if this has been discussed here and different > states have been compared, or if someone has already dug into this and > come up with a short list of good states for this type of personal > freedom.... > > Thanks ! > > B. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Hi Randi, I agree that a religious exemption is stronger than a philosophical exemption. Regarding the abortion issue, I must disagree. If you take that stance, you will only be setting yourself up for disaster. First, if your lucky, you'll only be exempt from the shots cultured in fetal cell lines which aren't that many. For example, you might get away with the rubella portion of the MMR, but you'll still have to give your child the vaccine for mumps and measles ( I think I got that right). Abortion, as horrible as it is, is not a good leg to stand on unless of course that is the only issue at hand. For some, this may be true. But not for me and mine. It's more like the " God has given us what we need to deal with illness " point you mentioned below in so many words.......Anita Randi Airola <randiceaj@...> wrote: , this is just my opinion, so, take it for what it's worth. I live in MI which has all 3 exemption. Myself personally, I have an 11 month old, and will take the religious route. It's my personal belief that God has given us what we need to defend off diseases given our immune systems, and any alteration to that is a recipe for disaster. It's also my personal belief that a religious waiver will hold up much stronger than a philosophical one. There are many measures that are being taken which are trying to eliminate exemptions from states, and it is again, in my personal opinion, the religious one will be the hardest to eliminate. (albeit, not entirely). If anyone does not believe in abortion, then, they should take the religious exemption, given that aborted fetus's are used in some of the vaccinations given to our children. I know Sheri has some information on her site regarding exemptions, another site is: http:www.nvic.org, click on " state information " and there will be the exemptions and state codes for the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 I'm in Kentucky and have had no trouble with our religious exemption. That could always change though, in any state. I have heard that New York, Mississippi and West Virginia (I think) are some of the states where it's more difficult to get exemptions. You can check all the exemptions here: http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/exemptions.htm Kay Best states ? > Can anyone tell me which states are the best to live in regarding > vaccination freedoms ? I'm interested in looking beyond whether or not > there is a philosophical exemption allowed, into things like the > state's requirements for written documentation, track record of > harassment and intimidation, etc. Basically I'm interested in finding > out which states are pretty good about just leaving parents alone. We > may be in a good situation to move soon and I would like to find a > state that is an excellent place to non-vax and homeschool. > > I know how to look up which states allow a philosophical exemption, > but I am thinking this is not enough information to go by. If some of > the states which allow a philosophical exemption have requirements > that it be all or nothing or challenge you if you go in for other > preventive care, or have requirements that the exemption actually be > filed somewhere every year, or have a record of harassing parents who > don't fully vax, then that exemption doesn't really indicate a good > environment in that state for non-vaxing. > > I was just wondering if this has been discussed here and different > states have been compared, or if someone has already dug into this and > come up with a short list of good states for this type of personal > freedom.... > > Thanks ! > > B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 I live in Wisconsin and have had no problems/hassles so far with not vaccinating. I don't homeschool but I know several friends who do and I was told that this state is excellent for that as well. Best states ? Can anyone tell me which states are the best to live in regarding vaccination freedoms ? I'm interested in looking beyond whether or not there is a philosophical exemption allowed, into things like the state's requirements for written documentation, track record of harassment and intimidation, etc. Basically I'm interested in finding out which states are pretty good about just leaving parents alone. We may be in a good situation to move soon and I would like to find a state that is an excellent place to non-vax and homeschool. I know how to look up which states allow a philosophical exemption, but I am thinking this is not enough information to go by. If some of the states which allow a philosophical exemption have requirements that it be all or nothing or challenge you if you go in for other preventive care, or have requirements that the exemption actually be filed somewhere every year, or have a record of harassing parents who don't fully vax, then that exemption doesn't really indicate a good environment in that state for non-vaxing. I was just wondering if this has been discussed here and different states have been compared, or if someone has already dug into this and come up with a short list of good states for this type of personal freedom.... Thanks ! B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 New York at least still has a religious exemption. I don't believe the other two states you mention do leaving only a medical exemption....Anita Kay <dr-ky@...> wrote: I'm in Kentucky and have had no trouble with our religious exemption. That could always change though, in any state. I have heard that New York, Mississippi and West Virginia (I think) are some of the states where it's more difficult to get exemptions. You can check all the exemptions here: http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/exemptions.htm Kay Best states ? > Can anyone tell me which states are the best to live in regarding > vaccination freedoms ? I'm interested in looking beyond whether or not > there is a philosophical exemption allowed, into things like the > state's requirements for written documentation, track record of > harassment and intimidation, etc. Basically I'm interested in finding > out which states are pretty good about just leaving parents alone. We > may be in a good situation to move soon and I would like to find a > state that is an excellent place to non-vax and homeschool. > > I know how to look up which states allow a philosophical exemption, > but I am thinking this is not enough information to go by. If some of > the states which allow a philosophical exemption have requirements > that it be all or nothing or challenge you if you go in for other > preventive care, or have requirements that the exemption actually be > filed somewhere every year, or have a record of harassing parents who > don't fully vax, then that exemption doesn't really indicate a good > environment in that state for non-vaxing. > > I was just wondering if this has been discussed here and different > states have been compared, or if someone has already dug into this and > come up with a short list of good states for this type of personal > freedom.... > > Thanks ! > > B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 That's true. But I do remember Sheri N. mentioning NY as being a difficult state for some reason. ?? Kay Re: Best states ? > New York at least still has a religious exemption. I don't believe the > other two states you mention do leaving only a medical exemption....Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Hi Kay, NYS Ed has recently put out a new " official " exemption form containing three questions to be notorized and then approved by the school principal for all new applicants. I just went through this with Henry because he was a new applicant to elementary school in September <sighing for the preschool days>. My other two boys were good to go because their existing exemption forms were still valid from years prior. It is getting harder here. Below is the form for anyone considering moving to or already living in NY..........Anita http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/sss/HealthServices/requestreligiousexemptimmunization.\ htm Kay <dr-ky@...> wrote: That's true. But I do remember Sheri N. mentioning NY as being a difficult state for some reason. ?? Kay Re: Best states ? > New York at least still has a religious exemption. I don't believe the > other two states you mention do leaving only a medical exemption....Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 What does the New York state law say? Just curious. ---- Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: > Hi Kay, > > NYS Ed has recently put out a new " official " exemption form containing three questions to be notorized and then approved by the school principal for all new applicants. I just went through this with Henry because he was a new applicant to elementary school in September <sighing for the preschool days>. My other two boys were good to go because their existing exemption forms were still valid from years prior. It is getting harder here. Below is the form for anyone considering moving to or already living in NY..........Anita > > > http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/sss/HealthServices/requestreligiousexemptimmunization.\ htm > > > > Kay <dr-ky@...> wrote: > That's true. But I do remember Sheri N. mentioning NY as being a difficult > state for some reason. ?? > > Kay > > Re: Best states ? > > > > New York at least still has a religious exemption. I don't believe the > > other two states you mention do leaving only a medical exemption....Anita > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Here is a link to New York's law: http://www.909shot.com/state-site/NewYork.htm Kay Re: Best states ? > What does the New York state law say? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Hi Anita, So it was up to the school principal to accept or reject Henry's exemption? Kay Re: Best states ? > Hi Kay, > > NYS Ed has recently put out a new " official " exemption form containing > three questions to be notorized and then approved by the school principal > for all new applicants. I just went through this with Henry because he was > a new applicant to elementary school in September <sighing for the > preschool days>. My other two boys were good to go because their existing > exemption forms were still valid from years prior. It is getting harder > here. Below is the form for anyone considering moving to or already living > in NY..........Anita > > > http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/sss/HealthServices/requestreligiousexemptimmunization.\ htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 the thing that always throws me off is that they state right on the top of the page.... current..... 2003... now how current could it really be, as in MD they just came up with the stupid idea that all students from grades 5-9 have to be vaccinated again Hepatitis B and Chicken Pox.... Why, then, are these not updated to 2006? Aldona Re: Best states ? > What does the New York state law say? Just curious. <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0; } #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both; } #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px; font-family:Verdana; font-size:77%; margin:0; } #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px; } #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both; margin:25px 0; white-space:nowrap; color:#666; text-align:right; } #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left; white-space:nowrap; } ..bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana; font-size:77%; padding:15px 0; } #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana; font-size:77%; border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px; } #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px; } #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%; font-family:Verdana; font-weight:bold; color:#333; text-transform:uppercase; } #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0; margin:2px 0; } #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none; clear:both; border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold; color:#ff7900; float:right; width:2em; text-align:right; padding-right:.5em; } #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold; } #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration:none; } #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline; } #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999; font-size:77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px; background-color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom:20px; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px; margin:0; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square; padding:6px 0; font-size:77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none; font-size:130%; } #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color:#eee; margin-bottom:20px; padding:0 8px; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial; font-weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size:100%; line-height:122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0; } o {font-size:0;} ..MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0; } #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%; } blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ..replbq {margin:4;} --> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 It was, Kay. I have to assume all principals in NY have been trained to read the language of the law and how to spot certain inappropriate reasoning that doesn't jibe with a true religious exemption. One would hope anyway. I am happy to report I heard nothing back from Henry's principal. Then again, I was super careful about the wording (the reasoning was my own) with a little help from local married non-vaxing parents who both happen to be attorney's. Sheri N. gave me the lead...of course. ;~).......Anita Hi Anita, So it was up to the school principal to accept or reject Henry's exemption? Kay __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 So glad it went smoothly for you, Anita. : ) Kay Re: Best states ? > It was, Kay. I have to assume all principals in NY have been trained to > read the language of the law and how to spot certain inappropriate > reasoning that doesn't jibe with a true religious exemption. One would > hope anyway. I am happy to report I heard nothing back from Henry's > principal. Then again, I was super careful about the wording (the > reasoning was my own) with a little help from local married non-vaxing > parents who both happen to be attorney's. Sheri N. gave me the lead...of > course. ;~).......Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 land's law on the website states it's up to date as of May 2005. Laws change frequently, and I suspect they don't have the manpower to keep the websites totally current. They do say on one of those sites to please double check the laws for your state. As long as they don't change the exemption status in your state, it doesn't matter how many vaccines they add to their " requirements. " Your exemption will stand. Kay Re: Best states ? > the thing that always throws me off is that they state right on the top of > the page.... current..... 2003... now how current could it really be, as > in MD they just came up with the stupid idea that all students from grades > 5-9 have to be vaccinated again Hepatitis B and Chicken Pox.... > > Why, then, are these not updated to 2006? > > Aldona > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 It seems so " open " , I can't think of any other way to describe it. In Michigan, it has been very easy for exemptions. We have philosophical and religious, I filed philosophical. I printed out the waiver from http://www.momvaccines.org/momform.pdf , signed it and turned it in. VOILA! I had two school secretaries try to tell me that I had to use the health department form, to which I told them that according to the law, I didn't. That was that. I have used it in two different daycares and for my son for kindegarten at one school and then for first grade in another district. I was torn over which exemption to use, as I do fear that the philosophical exemption might be taken away, but the woman I spoke to at MOMS felt that if there weren't enough people using it, then we could face losing it. I figure that I can always claim that my philosophical beliefs have turned into religious beliefs if they do find a way to take it away. Sara ---- Kay <dr-ky@...> wrote: > Here is a link to New York's law: > > http://www.909shot.com/state-site/NewYork.htm > > Kay > > > Re: Best states ? > > > > What does the New York state law say? Just curious. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Hi Anita. For most accounts, you are correct, however, you missed this part that I wrote: " It's my personal belief that God has given us what we need to defend off diseases given our immune systems, and any alteration to that is a recipe for disaster. " I will and do take the religious route on various grounds - 1) is that I'm very prolife (against abortion), and 2) see above..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Actually ALL children in grades K - 9 are supposed to have these vaccines. I live in Md and got a letter last summer telling me I had to prove that my children have these vaccines. I have yet to send anything at all in and haven't heard a word. My children are in grades 2 and 5. According to recent articles in the newspaper, it says that all the children in grades K-4 are up to date, but that many children in grades 5-9 have not been vaccinated. Lynn Re: Best states ? > What does the New York state law say? Just curious. <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0; } #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both; } #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px; font-family:Verdana; font-size:77%; margin:0; } #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px; } #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both; margin:25px 0; white-space:nowrap; color:#666; text-align:right; } #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left; white-space:nowrap; } .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana; font-size:77%; padding:15px 0; } #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana; font-size:77%; border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px; } #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom:20px; padding:2px 0 8px 8px; } #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%; font-family:Verdana; font-weight:bold; color:#333; text-transform:uppercase; } #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0; margin:2px 0; } #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none; clear:both; border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold; color:#ff7900; float:right; width:2em; text-align:right; padding-right:.5em; } #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold; } #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration:none; } #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline; } #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999; font-size:77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px; background-color:#e0ecee; margin-bottom:20px; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px; margin:0; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square; padding:6px 0; font-size:77%; } #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none; font-size:130%; } #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color:#eee; margin-bottom:20px; padding:0 8px; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial; font-weight:bold; color:#628c2a; font-size:100%; line-height:122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0; } o {font-size:0;} .MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0; } #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%; } blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq {margin:4;} --> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Yes, it is Anita had to have an attorney's help and other's have been harrassed terribly i wouldn't move to NY Sheri At 09:09 PM 12/28/2006 -0500, you wrote: >That's true. But I do remember Sheri N. mentioning NY as being a difficult >state for some reason. ?? > >Kay > > Re: Best states ? > > >> New York at least still has a religious exemption. I don't believe the >> other two states you mention do leaving only a medical exemption....Anita > >> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 when things don't change the date will be older You can always look fruther at the link for the law but NVIC's pages are usually as current as they are At 07:29 AM 12/29/2006 -0800, you wrote: >the thing that always throws me off is that they state right on the top of the page.... current..... 2003... now how current could it really be, as in MD they just came up with the stupid idea that all students from grades 5-9 have to be vaccinated again Hepatitis B and Chicken Pox.... > >Why, then, are these not updated to 2006? > >Aldona -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 At 07:29 AM 12/29/2006 -0800, you wrote: >the thing that always throws me off is that they state right on the top of the page.... current..... 2003... now how current could it really be, as in MD they just came up with the stupid idea that all students from grades 5-9 have to be vaccinated again Hepatitis B and Chicken Pox.... > >Why, then, are these not updated to 2006? > >Aldona > If you find the more current law email me and I will email NVIC But the exemptions are the same> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 You don't have to prove anything - you just take the exemption PERIOD Sheri At 11:32 AM 12/29/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Actually ALL children in grades K - 9 are supposed to have these vaccines. I live in Md and got a letter last summer telling me I had to prove that my children have these vaccines. I have yet to send anything at all in and haven't heard a word. My children are in grades 2 and 5. According to recent articles in the newspaper, it says that all the children in grades K-4 are up to date, but that many children in grades 5-9 have not been vaccinated. > >Lynn > > > Re: Best states ? > > > the thing that always throws me off is that they state right on the top of the page.... current..... 2003... now how current could it really be, as in MD they just came up with the stupid idea that all students from grades 5-9 have to be vaccinated again Hepatitis B and Chicken Pox.... > > Why, then, are these not updated to 2006? > > Aldona> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Hi Randi, I don't think I missed what you wrote. In fact, I gave you credit for it in a snip of my response below. This must be the crux of ones belief and reason for using a religious exemption. And I am prolife as well, but this has no place on an exemption form; you only weaken your legal religious right to exemption by using it. I'm not saying that people haven't used it and haven't had a problem with it. I'm only saying that it will most likely become more difficult to use exemptions in the future, so why take any unnecessary chances that may be used against you. Trust me when I tell you if I had included aborted fetal cell line use in my NY exemption, it would not have been approved. I would have been questioned and forced to produce documentation (which does not exist to be exempt from ALL vaccines) to support that reasoning. It drives me to tears that I have to justify my right to make these choices for my own children. I won't justify it to my family or friends, yet I am forced to justify it to the authorities. When you stop and think about the craziness of needing exemptions for medical procedures/interventions, it does leave one ( a thinking person of course) paused and puzzled. Freedom...my eye! >Abortion, as horrible as it is, is not a good leg to stand on unless of course that is the only >issue at hand. For some, this may be true. But not for me and mine. It's more like the > " God has given us what we need to deal with illness " point you mentioned below in so >many words.......Anita Randi Airola <randiceaj@...> wrote: Hi Anita. For most accounts, you are correct, however, you missed this part that I wrote: " It's my personal belief that God has given us what we need to defend off diseases given our immune systems, and any alteration to that is a recipe for disaster. " I will and do take the religious route on various grounds - 1) is that I'm very prolife (against abortion), and 2) see above..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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