Re: Vaccines & Painkillers Don't Mix

[Guest guest]

This is very interesting.

The Health Visitors,midwifes and GPs here in the UK routinely suggest

these kind of pain killers to new parents for their babies after

vaccination. I wonder what they think when reading this, if they ever

read it.

Imagine how many babies, children and adults have suffered even more

after a vaccine when taking pain killers as well and not realized that

it has weakened the vaccine. Not that I think vaccines do anything to

protect people from disease, far from it.

If a parent reads this, what will they think and what will they do? It

is so common to give these pain killers, at the first sign of a fever

or illness. They will feel even more confused.

Ingrid

[Guest guest]

I always thought that K had Autism because I gave her tylenol on those days-

Before and after her shots. I spaced the doses far enough apart but, still I

knocked out her glutathione synthesis while her body was suppose to be

protecting itself. I also breastfed her and was put on strong pain meds. due to

c-section. She was getting the pain killer in my milk the whole time. Something

strong too like perkaset(sp). I can only try to learn my lesson and nurse my

baby back to our world as much as I can everyday now. Jenn & K

Re: Vaccines & Painkillers Don't Mix

This is very interesting.

The Health Visitors,midwifes and GPs here in the UK routinely suggest

these kind of pain killers to new parents for their babies after

vaccination. I wonder what they think when reading this, if they ever

read it.

Imagine how many babies, children and adults have suffered even more

after a vaccine when taking pain killers as well and not realized that

it has weakened the vaccine. Not that I think vaccines do anything to

protect people from disease, far from it.

If a parent reads this, what will they think and what will they do? It

is so common to give these pain killers, at the first sign of a fever

or illness. They will feel even more confused.

Ingrid

[Guest guest]

Hi Jen,

It seems K has made a lot of progress since you've been posting on the group.

I know things move so slowly with autism, but can you still see her moving

forward? Didn't she have an incredible language breakthrough just before you

stopped posting for a while? How is that going?

Anita

Jim and Jen <jlessard1@...> wrote:

I always thought that K had Autism because I gave her tylenol on those days-

Before and after her shots. I spaced the doses far enough apart but, still I

knocked out her glutathione synthesis while her body was suppose to be

protecting itself. I also breastfed her and was put on strong pain meds. due to

c-section. She was getting the pain killer in my milk the whole time. Something

strong too like perkaset(sp). I can only try to learn my lesson and nurse my

baby back to our world as much as I can everyday now. Jenn & K

Re: Vaccines & Painkillers Don't Mix

This is very interesting.

The Health Visitors,midwifes and GPs here in the UK routinely suggest

these kind of pain killers to new parents for their babies after

vaccination. I wonder what they think when reading this, if they ever

read it.

Imagine how many babies, children and adults have suffered even more

after a vaccine when taking pain killers as well and not realized that

it has weakened the vaccine. Not that I think vaccines do anything to

protect people from disease, far from it.

If a parent reads this, what will they think and what will they do? It

is so common to give these pain killers, at the first sign of a fever

or illness. They will feel even more confused.

Ingrid

[Guest guest]

Anita,

Yes. I was on here earlier in the Spring and then, decided to stop paying

for internet & start paying for other things like supp's. Now, internet, phone &

cable tv is being pd. for for us by Lexington now. We didn't have a phone before

and they wanted us to have one for K. So, it was good timing because I need more

info. now.

She had started to talk around that time, copying words heard by others if asked

and sometimes a stray word would slip out now & then. Now, she's working on,

" I want... " Like some 2-3 word sentences. It's so sweet to hear her sometimes.

She has really started to pronounce words more clearly now.

Are you the Anita with Henry? The same Henry that is Autistic and didn't ever

get any vax? How is he doing now? I have asked on many message boards about

info. on healthier living, supp's to use to help build me up for pregnancy once

again. I am not pregnant but, we want to have one more child- no matter what we

get. But, I want to be healthy first. Do you know where I can get any info.

about this? Jenn & K

Re: Vaccines & Painkillers Don't Mix

This is very interesting.

The Health Visitors,midwifes and GPs here in the UK routinely suggest

these kind of pain killers to new parents for their babies after

vaccination. I wonder what they think when reading this, if they ever

read it.

Imagine how many babies, children and adults have suffered even more

after a vaccine when taking pain killers as well and not realized that

it has weakened the vaccine. Not that I think vaccines do anything to

protect people from disease, far from it.

If a parent reads this, what will they think and what will they do? It

is so common to give these pain killers, at the first sign of a fever

or illness. They will feel even more confused.

Ingrid

[Guest guest]

So this wouldn't include Tylenol? That is what I hear most parents saying that

they give after or even before shots.

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Their investigation reveals non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs),

like aspirin, Advil and Celebrex, actually inhibit the ability of the

vaccine to produce antibodies to the disease it is designed to protect

against.

[Guest guest]

At 08:24 PM 11/30/2006 -0500, you wrote:

>So this wouldn't include Tylenol? That is what I hear most parents saying

that they give after or even before shots.

That article doesn't include tylenol

But I will post my dangers of tylenol article again

sheri

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I am that Anita. Henry is working on " I want " sentences too! He says, " I

yunt " and then the reinforcer (mostly play doh for which he says " doh " ). Oh, and

he can say " cookie " perfectly! This language difficulty is a result of apraxia

as well as autism. We get a lot of fragmented and out of order words. For

example, he cannot say the word " bird " , it comes out " irbp " . His teacher has

just started having him call me in the kitchen from my bedroom on her cell phone

and we say " hi " and " bye " with a " I'm coming in there to kiss you " in between.

In a meeting with the school psychologist yesterday, I learned that Henry is

transitioning from one task to another nicely with minimal time spent on

avoidance behaviors. In fact, he is the least behavioral child in his class of 5

with similar disabilities ages 5 - 7. I am so happy and proud of him! I'm very

happy for you and K too!

Anita

Jenn wrote:

Now, she's working on, " I want... " Like some 2-3 word sentences. It's so sweet

to hear her sometimes. She has really started to pronounce words more clearly

now.

Are you the Anita with Henry? The same Henry that is Autistic and didn't ever

get any vax? How is he doing now?

Jenn & K

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[Guest guest]

Wow Anita! That's great! That's just about where K is. Her words came out

garbled like " irbp " (bird) only a short time ago. So, maybe Henry's language will

also pick up more CLEARLY also soon since he seems to be right where K was just

a couple of months ago! I will say a special prayer for him. K is also doing

well with transitioning and is also the least behavioral in her class of 5 kids.

It seems we have an aweful lot in common or at least the kids do.

I thought to myself just a short time ago, that if we had another child I would

do so many things differently. That would include not vaxxing but, I realize

that we still have a chance of having another ASD child if I don't take care of

myself also. Do you have other children besides for Henry? We are both 31 and K

is 6 and is our only one. I have always had the dream of having a boy & a girl.

It really would be ok though if it never happened for me. I have such a special

treasure right here! Jenn & K--- Original Message -----

From: Anita Durney

Vaccinations

Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Vaccines & Painkillers Don't Mix

Yes, I am that Anita. Henry is working on " I want " sentences too! He says, " I

yunt " and then the reinforcer (mostly play doh for which he says " doh " ). Oh, and

he can say " cookie " perfectly! This language difficulty is a result of apraxia

as well as autism. We get a lot of fragmented and out of order words. For

example, he cannot say the word " bird " , it comes out " irbp " . His teacher has

just started having him call me in the kitchen from my bedroom on her cell phone

and we say " hi " and " bye " with a " I'm coming in there to kiss you " in between.

In a meeting with the school psychologist yesterday, I learned that Henry is

transitioning from one task to another nicely with minimal time spent on

avoidance behaviors. In fact, he is the least behavioral child in his class of 5

with similar disabilities ages 5 - 7. I am so happy and proud of him! I'm very

happy for you and K too!

Anita

Jenn wrote:

Now, she's working on, " I want... " Like some 2-3 word sentences. It's so sweet

to hear her sometimes. She has really started to pronounce words more clearly

now.

Are you the Anita with Henry? The same Henry that is Autistic and didn't ever

get any vax? How is he doing now?

Jenn & K

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[Guest guest]

I noticed that advil inhibits the antibodies to vaccines that are given. If I

ever have to vax my kids I will give them advil because I dont want any

antibodies from a vaccine in my babies system. If anyone ever comes over with a

freshly vaxxed kid, I will give them advil because I believe vaccine antibodies

might be more harmful than natural antibodies. I could be wrong though. The main

thing I would not do is be left alone with a freshly vaccinated child. I dont

want to be convicted of murder. I hope every mom gives advil to their babies

after reading this. I dont think vaccines are effective anyway but I dont like

the idea of antibodies caused from a vaccine in the bloodstream. I want all the

antibodies that might exist in my body due to vaccines removed as well. I dont

know if this is true but I suspect they do nothing but harm to the human body.

Someone correct me if I am wrong in any way, I am very open to suggestion.

April

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[Guest guest]

I'm moving this to the OT list; see you there!............Anita

Jim and Jen <jlessard1@...> wrote: Wow Anita! That's great! That's

just about where K is. Her words came out garbled like " irbp " (bird) only a short

time ago. So, maybe Henry's language will also pick up more CLEARLY also soon

since he seems to be right where K was just a couple of months ago! I will say a

special prayer for him. K is also doing well with transitioning and is also the

least behavioral in her class of 5 kids. It seems we have an aweful lot in

common or at least the kids do.

I thought to myself just a short time ago, that if we had another child I would

do so many things differently. That would include not vaxxing but, I realize

that we still have a chance of having another ASD child if I don't take care of

myself also. Do you have other children besides for Henry? We are both 31 and K

is 6 and is our only one. I have always had the dream of having a boy & a girl.

It really would be ok though if it never happened for me. I have such a special

treasure right here! Jenn & K--- Original Message -----

From: Anita Durney

Vaccinations

Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Vaccines & Painkillers Don't Mix

Yes, I am that Anita. Henry is working on " I want " sentences too! He says, " I

yunt " and then the reinforcer (mostly play doh for which he says " doh " ). Oh, and

he can say " cookie " perfectly! This language difficulty is a result of apraxia

as well as autism. We get a lot of fragmented and out of order words. For

example, he cannot say the word " bird " , it comes out " irbp " . His teacher has

just started having him call me in the kitchen from my bedroom on her cell phone

and we say " hi " and " bye " with a " I'm coming in there to kiss you " in between.

In a meeting with the school psychologist yesterday, I learned that Henry is

transitioning from one task to another nicely with minimal time spent on

avoidance behaviors. In fact, he is the least behavioral child in his class of 5

with similar disabilities ages 5 - 7. I am so happy and proud of him! I'm very

happy for you and K too!

Anita

Jenn wrote:

Now, she's working on, " I want... " Like some 2-3 word sentences. It's so sweet

to hear her sometimes. She has really started to pronounce words more clearly

now.

Are you the Anita with Henry? The same Henry that is Autistic and didn't ever

get any vax? How is he doing now?

Jenn & K

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[Guest guest]

Sorry. I don't know about the OT list here. Jenn & K

Re: Re: Vaccines & Painkillers Don't Mix

Yes, I am that Anita. Henry is working on " I want " sentences too! He says, " I

yunt " and then the reinforcer (mostly play doh for which he says " doh " ). Oh, and

he can say " cookie " perfectly! This language difficulty is a result of apraxia

as well as autism. We get a lot of fragmented and out of order words. For

example, he cannot say the word " bird " , it comes out " irbp " . His teacher has

just started having him call me in the kitchen from my bedroom on her cell phone

and we say " hi " and " bye " with a " I'm coming in there to kiss you " in between.

In a meeting with the school psychologist yesterday, I learned that Henry is

transitioning from one task to another nicely with minimal time spent on

avoidance behaviors. In fact, he is the least behavioral child in his class of 5

with similar disabilities ages 5 - 7. I am so happy and proud of him! I'm very

happy for you and K too!

Anita

Jenn wrote:

Now, she's working on, " I want... " Like some 2-3 word sentences. It's so sweet

to hear her sometimes. She has really started to pronounce words more clearly

now.

Are you the Anita with Henry? The same Henry that is Autistic and didn't ever

get any vax? How is he doing now?

Jenn & K

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[Guest guest]

Sue or someone will send info soon, I'm sure......Anita

Jim and Jen <jlessard1@...> wrote: Sorry. I don't know about the OT

list here. Jenn & K

Re: Re: Vaccines & Painkillers Don't Mix

Yes, I am that Anita. Henry is working on " I want " sentences too! He says, " I

yunt " and then the reinforcer (mostly play doh for which he says " doh " ). Oh, and

he can say " cookie " perfectly! This language difficulty is a result of apraxia

as well as autism. We get a lot of fragmented and out of order words. For

example, he cannot say the word " bird " , it comes out " irbp " . His teacher has

just started having him call me in the kitchen from my bedroom on her cell phone

and we say " hi " and " bye " with a " I'm coming in there to kiss you " in between.

In a meeting with the school psychologist yesterday, I learned that Henry is

transitioning from one task to another nicely with minimal time spent on

avoidance behaviors. In fact, he is the least behavioral child in his class of 5

with similar disabilities ages 5 - 7. I am so happy and proud of him! I'm very

happy for you and K too!

Anita

Jenn wrote:

Now, she's working on, " I want... " Like some 2-3 word sentences. It's so sweet

to hear her sometimes. She has really started to pronounce words more clearly

now.

Are you the Anita with Henry? The same Henry that is Autistic and didn't ever

get any vax? How is he doing now?

Jenn & K

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