Re: NY State Ed's New Religious Exemption Form/Questionaire

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheri,

Here's the hundred dollar revision to my original response to the three

questions on the new religious exemption form. I feel more like they were three

riddles... like from the Pucini Opera " Turandot " . Death to us all if we don't

answer each one correctly. Doug asked me to answer the questions honestly and

took my words and beliefs and made them safe (I can only hope). This definately

represents the truth and is very concise as my original answers were.

Weiner is an attorney, but clearly states he is not acting as one. He

and his wife provide advice from their personal experience with religious

exemption....Anita

Very nicely stated. Please note the recommendations I've made, which

emphasize Divine guidance rather than moral in the event a school official

attempts to distinguish, and deny. Please let me know if you have any

questions.

1. Explain in your own words why you are requesting this religious exemption.

I am requesting a religious exemption from mandatory vaccination for my son,

Henry Durney, because injecting man made vaccines into my God given child goes

against my religious beliefs.

3.Describe the religious principles that guide your objection to immunization.

I believe that God gives us His intrinsic ability to launch a defense against

illnesses. My trust in God prevents me from accepting vaccinations.

3. Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not, the

religious basis that prohibits particular immunizations.

For these reasons, I am opposed to all innoculations.

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Whewwwwwww

Good luck is all I can say

I have no idea and I'm sure Doug knows more

At least you have help if they don't like it.

Sounds clean and simple.

Keep us posted

Sheri

At 06:06 PM 10/10/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi Sheri,

>

> Here's the hundred dollar revision to my original response to the three

questions on the new religious exemption form. I feel more like they were

three riddles... like from the Pucini Opera " Turandot " . Death to us all if

we don't answer each one correctly. Doug asked me to answer the questions

honestly and took my words and beliefs and made them safe (I can only

hope). This definately represents the truth and is very concise as my

original answers were.

>

> Weiner is an attorney, but clearly states he is not acting as

one. He and his wife provide advice from their personal experience with

religious exemption....Anita

>

>

>

>

> Very nicely stated. Please note the recommendations I've made, which

emphasize Divine guidance rather than moral in the event a school official

attempts to distinguish, and deny. Please let me know if you have any

questions.

>

> 1. Explain in your own words why you are requesting this religious

exemption.

>

>

> I am requesting a religious exemption from mandatory vaccination for my

son, Henry Durney, because injecting man made vaccines into my God given

child goes against my religious beliefs.

>

>

> 3.Describe the religious principles that guide your objection to

immunization.

>

> I believe that God gives us His intrinsic ability to launch a defense

against illnesses. My trust in God prevents me from accepting vaccinations.

>

> 3. Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not,

the religious basis that prohibits particular immunizations.

>

>For these reasons, I am opposed to all innoculations.

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

OK - thanks. By the way, page two (for office use only) states:

To the building Principal:

If, after review of the parental statement, questions remain about the

existence of a sincerely held religious belief, Department of Health regulations

[10 NYCRR, Section 66-1.3(d)] permits the principal to request supporting

documents. Some examples are included. To answer an earlier question, that is

how he was given the right to be judge and jury.

Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

Whewwwwwww

Good luck is all I can say

I have no idea and I'm sure Doug knows more

At least you have help if they don't like it.

Sounds clean and simple.

Keep us posted

Sheri

At 06:06 PM 10/10/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi Sheri,

>

> Here's the hundred dollar revision to my original response to the three

questions on the new religious exemption form. I feel more like they were

three riddles... like from the Pucini Opera " Turandot " . Death to us all if

we don't answer each one correctly. Doug asked me to answer the questions

honestly and took my words and beliefs and made them safe (I can only

hope). This definately represents the truth and is very concise as my

original answers were.

>

> Weiner is an attorney, but clearly states he is not acting as

one. He and his wife provide advice from their personal experience with

religious exemption....Anita

>

>

>

>

> Very nicely stated. Please note the recommendations I've made, which

emphasize Divine guidance rather than moral in the event a school official

attempts to distinguish, and deny. Please let me know if you have any

questions.

>

> 1. Explain in your own words why you are requesting this religious

exemption.

>

>

> I am requesting a religious exemption from mandatory vaccination for my

son, Henry Durney, because injecting man made vaccines into my God given

child goes against my religious beliefs.

>

>

> 3.Describe the religious principles that guide your objection to

immunization.

>

> I believe that God gives us His intrinsic ability to launch a defense

against illnesses. My trust in God prevents me from accepting vaccinations.

>

> 3. Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not,

the religious basis that prohibits particular immunizations.

>

>For these reasons, I am opposed to all innoculations.

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

and what examples were included as supporting documents?

Sheri

At 07:17 AM 10/11/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>OK - thanks. By the way, page two (for office use only) states:

>

> To the building Principal:

>

> If, after review of the parental statement, questions remain about the

existence of a sincerely held religious belief, Department of Health

regulations [10 NYCRR, Section 66-1.3(d)] permits the principal to request

supporting documents. Some examples are included. To answer an earlier

question, that is how he was given the right to be judge and jury.

>

> Anita

>

>Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

> Whewwwwwww

>Good luck is all I can say

>I have no idea and I'm sure Doug knows more

>At least you have help if they don't like it.

>Sounds clean and simple.

>Keep us posted

>Sheri

>

>At 06:06 PM 10/10/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>>Hi Sheri,

>>

>> Here's the hundred dollar revision to my original response to the three

>questions on the new religious exemption form. I feel more like they were

>three riddles... like from the Pucini Opera " Turandot " . Death to us all if

>we don't answer each one correctly. Doug asked me to answer the questions

>honestly and took my words and beliefs and made them safe (I can only

>hope). This definately represents the truth and is very concise as my

>original answers were.

>>

>> Weiner is an attorney, but clearly states he is not acting as

>one. He and his wife provide advice from their personal experience with

>religious exemption....Anita

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Very nicely stated. Please note the recommendations I've made, which

>emphasize Divine guidance rather than moral in the event a school official

>attempts to distinguish, and deny. Please let me know if you have any

>questions.

>>

>> 1. Explain in your own words why you are requesting this religious

>exemption.

>>

>>

>> I am requesting a religious exemption from mandatory vaccination for my

>son, Henry Durney, because injecting man made vaccines into my God given

>child goes against my religious beliefs.

>>

>>

>> 3.Describe the religious principles that guide your objection to

>immunization.

>>

>> I believe that God gives us His intrinsic ability to launch a defense

>against illnesses. My trust in God prevents me from accepting vaccinations.

>>

>> 3. Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not,

>the religious basis that prohibits particular immunizations.

>>

>>For these reasons, I am opposed to all innoculations.

>>

>>

>>

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>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Here it is word for word:

*A letter from an authorized representative of the church, temple, rel

institution, etc, attended by the parnt/guargian that prohibit immunization

(Note: Parent/Guardians need not necessarily be a member of an organized

religion or religious institution to obtain a religious exemption);

*Other writings or sources upon which the parent/guardian relied in

formulating religious beliefs that prohibit immuniztion;

*A copy of and parental/guardian statements to healthcar providers or school

district officials in a direct or prior residence explaining the religious basis

for refusing immunizations;

*Any documents or other information the parent/guardian may be willing to

provide that reflect a sincerely held religious objection to immunization (for

example: disclosure of whether parent/guardain or other children have been

immunized, parent/guardian's current position on allowing himself or herself or

his or her children to receive or refuse other kinds of medical treatment.

Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

and what examples were included as supporting documents?

Sheri

At 07:17 AM 10/11/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>OK - thanks. By the way, page two (for office use only) states:

>

> To the building Principal:

>

> If, after review of the parental statement, questions remain about the

existence of a sincerely held religious belief, Department of Health

regulations [10 NYCRR, Section 66-1.3(d)] permits the principal to request

supporting documents. Some examples are included. To answer an earlier

question, that is how he was given the right to be judge and jury.

>

> Anita

>

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[Guest guest]

>

>Here it is word for word:

>

> *A letter from an authorized representative of the church, temple, rel

institution, etc, attended by the parnt/guargian that prohibit immunization

(Note: Parent/Guardians need not necessarily be a member of an organized

religion or religious institution to obtain a religious exemption);

>

> *Other writings or sources upon which the parent/guardian relied in

formulating religious beliefs that prohibit immuniztion;

>

> *A copy of and parental/guardian statements to healthcar providers or

school district officials in a direct or prior residence explaining the

religious basis for refusing immunizations;

>

> *Any documents or other information the parent/guardian may be willing

to provide that reflect a sincerely held religious objection to

immunization (for example: disclosure of whether parent/guardain or other

children have been immunized, parent/guardian's current position on

allowing himself or herself or his or her children to receive or refuse

other kinds of medical treatment.

>

> Anita

>

Oh man

I guess I better start a church - huh?

What shall we call it? Open for names! I will be the high priestess? ;-)

There are some out there but usually suggest people avoid that route, but

sounds like this might be the only way if they question what you have written.

Sheri

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I actually became an ordained minister to support my own religious exemption

claim.

Re: RE: NY State Ed's New Religious Exemption

Form/Questionaire

[Guest guest]

At 01:36 PM 10/11/2006 -0500, you wrote:

>I actually became an ordained minister to support my own religious

exemption claim.

what state?

Sheri

>

>

> Re: RE: NY State Ed's New Religious Exemption

Form/Questionaire

>

>

>

>>

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[Guest guest]

How did you do this? What group did you become an ordained minister for? I have

given this some thought myself.

Posted by: " listmail@... " listmail@...

mocksoup

Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:56 am (PST)

I actually became an ordained minister to support my own religious exemption

claim.

[Guest guest]

They could still back you into a corner if your'e not divinely convincing. Good

for you though...Anita

listmail@... wrote: I actually became an ordained minister to

support my own religious exemption claim.

Re: RE: NY State Ed's New Religious Exemption

Form/Questionaire

[Guest guest]

My concern for this is who actually determines if your religious reasons are

good enough? In my case, I really do believe that God is leading me away from

vaccines. Why? It's rather lengthy but when you start telling someone your

faith stories they tend to roll their eyes at you and think you're a nut job.

So what place does this sort of argument have in a court of law? I can see us

standing their before a judge saying, " Well, sir, you see I think God is telling

me in my heart and gut that I should no longer be injecting toxins into my

child's body " . Yeah - I can see that going over like a lead balloon. Yet it's

what I truly believe.

I've talked about it with my pastor and she knows how I feel, but how is that

going to make me more credible with the legal powers that be? Our religion has

nothing written or even spoken that admonishes vaccinations. So where does that

leave me?

While I'm glad that I can honestly use a religious waiver (for the time being)

I think it does not jive in a system where we're supposed to have a separation

of church and state. And I don't want to open up the religion discussion here -

just saying that if this is our only legal ground on which we can stand, it's

pretty flimsy if anyone really pushes it.

Sheri B.

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[Guest guest]

BLF asks the real question. What about " informed consent " and the right to make

medical decisions for our own children? Those words mean very little if

vaccinations are being forced. Maybe we could have enjoyed real consent and

choice if every one who opted out had good reasons for doing so whether

religious or otherwise. We know this is not the case for too many consequently

giving power to the " greater good " theory....Anita

" Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote: My concern for this is who actually

determines if your religious reasons are good enough? In my case, I really do

believe that God is leading me away from vaccines. Why? It's rather lengthy but

when you start telling someone your faith stories they tend to roll their eyes

at you and think you're a nut job. So what place does this sort of argument have

in a court of law? I can see us standing their before a judge saying, " Well,

sir, you see I think God is telling me in my heart and gut that I should no

longer be injecting toxins into my child's body " . Yeah - I can see that going

over like a lead balloon. Yet it's what I truly believe.

I've talked about it with my pastor and she knows how I feel, but how is that

going to make me more credible with the legal powers that be? Our religion has

nothing written or even spoken that admonishes vaccinations. So where does that

leave me?

While I'm glad that I can honestly use a religious waiver (for the time being) I

think it does not jive in a system where we're supposed to have a separation of

church and state. And I don't want to open up the religion discussion here -

just saying that if this is our only legal ground on which we can stand, it's

pretty flimsy if anyone really pushes it.

Sheri B.

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I actually became an ordained minister to support my own religious exemption

claim.

[Guest guest]

yeah, becoming an ordained minister does sound like

it may be a bit helpful.i'm not saying it would be

very helpful, because most likely these people will

still try to fry you even if you are a minister, but i

guess it could help when you have exhausted most other

options. I think i am interested in finding out how to

become an ordained minister.How do you become one?

question: but wouldn't they still deny you unless you

were a minister for the Christian Science Church?

Liz

--- Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

> They could still back you into a corner if your'e

> not divinely convincing. Good for you though...Anita

>

> listmail@... wrote: I actually

> became an ordained minister to support my own

> religious exemption claim.

>

>

> Re: RE: NY State Ed's New

> Religious Exemption Form/Questionaire

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am not a NY resident, but I'll share what I was told about religious exemption

forms in general.

From what I was told, you do NOT have to be a part of the Christian Science

church for the religious exemption. You can technically be a part of ANY

religion and still go w/ religious exemption.

The reason is that our gvt. does not/nor will it identify any ONE religion as

the true religion. So the gvt (aka those accepting the forms, etc) can not deny

you your religion, because they separate themselves from identifying one

specific religion. Make sense?

It made sense to me. I hope that is correct. Please let me know if the truth

is otherwise.

-Sharon

m p <zaynetp@...> wrote:

yeah, becoming an ordained minister does sound like

it may be a bit helpful.i'm not saying it would be

very helpful, because most likely these people will

still try to fry you even if you are a minister, but i

guess it could help when you have exhausted most other

options. I think i am interested in finding out how to

become an ordained minister.How do you become one?

question: but wouldn't they still deny you unless you

were a minister for the Christian Science Church?

Liz

--- Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

> They could still back you into a corner if your'e

> not divinely convincing. Good for you though...Anita

>

> listmail@... wrote: I actually

> became an ordained minister to support my own

> religious exemption claim.

>

>

> Re: RE: NY State Ed's New

> Religious Exemption Form/Questionaire

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am in NY and the superintendent called me to ask what my religion was,

which is none of his business, I asked him what his was and ALL the

employees were in the school. He replied that the school lawyer said he had

to find out if it was " a 'paper religion' like the Christian Science

Religion " .

Since I had a definition of " religion " from Blacks Law Dictionary IN my

exemption letter, I read it to him again and said it is the " " religion

and he said ok to that.

Weird!

Western NY

-- Re: RE: NY State Ed's New Religious Exemption

Form/Questionaire

I am not a NY resident, but I'll share what I was told about religious

exemption forms in general.

From what I was told, you do NOT have to be a part of the Christian

Science church for the religious exemption. You can technically be a part of

ANY religion and still go w/ religious exemption.

The reason is that our gvt. does not/nor will it identify any ONE religion

as the true religion. So the gvt (aka those accepting the forms, etc) can

not deny you your religion, because they separate themselves from

identifying one specific religion. Make sense?

It made sense to me. I hope that is correct. Please let me know if the

truth is otherwise.

-Sharon

m p <zaynetp@...> wrote:

yeah, becoming an ordained minister does sound like

it may be a bit helpful.i'm not saying it would be

very helpful, because most likely these people will

still try to fry you even if you are a minister, but i

guess it could help when you have exhausted most other

options. I think i am interested in finding out how to

become an ordained minister.How do you become one?

question: but wouldn't they still deny you unless you

were a minister for the Christian Science Church?

Liz

--- Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

> They could still back you into a corner if your'e

> not divinely convincing. Good for you though...Anita

>

> listmail@... wrote: I actually

> became an ordained minister to support my own

> religious exemption claim.

>

>

> Re: RE: NY State Ed's New

> Religious Exemption Form/Questionaire

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

>I am not a NY resident, but I'll share what I was told about religious

exemption forms in general.

> From what I was told, you do NOT have to be a part of the Christian

Science church for the religious exemption. You can technically be a part

of ANY religion and still go w/ religious exemption.

> The reason is that our gvt. does not/nor will it identify any ONE

religion as the true religion. So the gvt (aka those accepting the forms,

etc) can not deny you your religion, because they separate themselves from

identifying one specific religion. Make sense?

> It made sense to me. I hope that is correct. Please let me know if the

truth is otherwise.

> -Sharon

>

hi Sharon and welcome

It all depends on the state

You have to know the specific state's laws and they all vary

Some states you have to be a part of a specific religion, contrary to what

you would think.

They can do whatever they want.

Sheri

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sheri.

I'm curious- I know states only have to allow one of three exemptions. For

those that DO allow religious exemptions, how can they legally require you to

belong to a specific religion to qualify? Doesn't the separation of Church/state

issue prevent them from doing that?

And would you happen to know a site which lists which states require a certain

religion? We just moved to Ohio and I know they allow all 3 exemptions, but I

did not know that about the religious exemption.

Thanks again!

Sharon

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

>

>

>I am not a NY resident, but I'll share what I was told about religious

exemption forms in general.

> From what I was told, you do NOT have to be a part of the Christian

Science church for the religious exemption. You can technically be a part

of ANY religion and still go w/ religious exemption.

> The reason is that our gvt. does not/nor will it identify any ONE

religion as the true religion. So the gvt (aka those accepting the forms,

etc) can not deny you your religion, because they separate themselves from

identifying one specific religion. Make sense?

> It made sense to me. I hope that is correct. Please let me know if the

truth is otherwise.

> -Sharon

>

hi Sharon and welcome

It all depends on the state

You have to know the specific state's laws and they all vary

Some states you have to be a part of a specific religion, contrary to what

you would think.

They can do whatever they want.

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

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[Guest guest]

At 02:12 PM 10/12/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>Thanks, Sheri.

>

> I'm curious- I know states only have to allow one of three exemptions.

No, they don't have to do anything. Medical exemption is allowed in all

states but rare you will get a doc to do that for you

Religious exemption in 48 states (W. Virginia & Mississippi don't have that

- only a medical exemption)

Philosophical in 20+ states

>>For those that DO allow religious exemptions, how can they legally

require you to belong to a specific religion to qualify? Doesn't the

separation of Church/state issue prevent them from doing that?

You'd think, but they get away with it even with challenges

> And would you happen to know a site which lists which states require a

certain religion? We just moved to Ohio and I know they allow all 3

exemptions, but I did not know that about the religious exemption.

See here

http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm

Iowa - " b. The applicant, or if the applicant is a minor, the applicant's

parent or legal guardian, submits an affidavit signed by the applicant, or

if the applicant is a minor, the applicant's parent or legal guardian,

stating that the immunization conflicts with the tenets and practices of a

recognized religious denomination of which the applicant is an adherent or

member.

Kansas - " Submit a written statement signed by a parent that the parent is

an adherent of a religious denomination whose teachings are opposed to

immunizations "

>

> Thanks again!

> Sharon

>

>Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

> >

>>

>>I am not a NY resident, but I'll share what I was told about religious

>exemption forms in general.

>> From what I was told, you do NOT have to be a part of the Christian

>Science church for the religious exemption. You can technically be a part

>of ANY religion and still go w/ religious exemption.

>> The reason is that our gvt. does not/nor will it identify any ONE

>religion as the true religion. So the gvt (aka those accepting the forms,

>etc) can not deny you your religion, because they separate themselves from

>identifying one specific religion. Make sense?

>> It made sense to me. I hope that is correct. Please let me know if the

>truth is otherwise.

>> -Sharon

>>>

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

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[Guest guest]

Sheri,

My son isn't married yet, nor has children, but currently lives in

Iowa. I am looking ahead. Our religion is not one that states that

the immunization conflicts with their tenets and practices. Is he

just out of luck?

from Missouri

> >Thanks, Sheri.

> >

> > I'm curious- I know states only have to allow one of three

exemptions.

No, they don't have to do anything. Medical exemption is allowed in

all

states but rare you will get a doc to do that for you

Religious exemption in 48 states (W. Virginia & Mississippi don't

have that

- only a medical exemption)

Philosophical in 20+ states

> > >>For those that DO allow religious exemptions, how can they

legally

require you to belong to a specific religion to qualify? Doesn't the

separation of Church/state issue prevent them from doing that?

You'd think, but they get away with it even with challenges

And would you happen to know a site which lists which states require a

certain religion? We just moved to Ohio and I know they allow all 3

exemptions, but I did not know that about the religious exemption.

See here

http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm

Iowa - " b. The applicant, or if the applicant is a minor, the

applicant's

parent or legal guardian, submits an affidavit signed by the

applicant, or

if the applicant is a minor, the applicant's parent or legal guardian,

stating that the immunization conflicts with the tenets and practices

of a

recognized religious denomination of which the applicant is an

adherent or

member.

Kansas - " Submit a written statement signed by a parent that the

parent is

an adherent of a religious denomination whose teachings are opposed to

immunizations "

Thanks again!

Sharon

Sheri,

[Guest guest]

At 05:58 AM 10/13/2006 -0000, you wrote:

>Sheri,

>

>My son isn't married yet, nor has children, but currently lives in

>Iowa. I am looking ahead. Our religion is not one that states that

>the immunization conflicts with their tenets and practices. Is he

>just out of luck?

>

> from Missouri

Hi ,

I think we have discussed this before.

Hopefully things will have changed for the better by then.

I'm not sure how people do it in Iowa. Maybe state that they are a member

and maybe no one so far has asked for proof

I don't know

Sheri

>>

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>I am in NY and the superintendent called me to ask what my religion was,

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You go girl!

C.