What would you rather have?

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I was looking at the posts in one of the forums I am on and the mother there

said the reason why she chose to vaccinate was because she had family members

that had died from Polio and other diseases that were prevelant in the fifties

and how she believes that vaccination has wiped out Polio in the US. She went on

to say that the local Wal Mart in her area frequently has amish people visiting

and that they recently had an outbreak of polio there....

She also said that she was a bit unsure about her decision to vaccinate as one

of her friends has a child with autism.

Now, I wonder why she chose to " show solidarity " with her family members and

praise the polio vaccine but not show any solidarity towards her friends with

the autistic child? Fear can indeed be strong!

What would parents rather have? A child that has measles and needs bed rest and

lots of TLC for about 2 weeks or a child that has asthma, diabetes, life

threatening allergies, neurolgical problems, eczema, automimmune disease etc.

that need life long suprressive medication, stress for the whole family, missed

days at school, risk of being bullied, not being able to take part in certain

activities, living in a certain amount of fear and high costs for the NHS and

the social services?

I know what I would rather have...

Ingrid

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The thing is vaccines do not cause autism,or any other type of chronic

illness.Anything BUT vaccines can be the cause

As for the polio outbreak there was none as far as I know.There was a case of

an amish girl in medical care that had tests done which revealed she had be

exposed to the viruses from the ORAL POLIO VACCINE.That was still big news,but

had it been WILD polio there would have been far more of a push to promote

vaccines.Ofcourse there was when a student brough measles back from...India I

think it was.That caused a big vaccine push.

The complications from any disease can be severve if given the right

environment.Vaccines tend to cause complications every time,beause that is there

nature-to cause the body to react.

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> The thing is vaccines do not cause autism,or any other type of

chronic illness.Anything BUT vaccines can be the cause

I reread this several times and still don't know if it is a mistake or

not. Surely, we all know on this list that vaccines DO cause autism

and many chronic diseases, not in every case but in many of them.

There are many other causes of autism and disease of course, but

vaccination is a significant one for many chronic ones.

After all, this is why we joined the list, for support and to express

our views about this happening.

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> As for the polio outbreak there was none as far as I know.There

was a case of an amish girl in medical care that had tests done which

revealed she had be exposed to the viruses from the ORAL POLIO

VACCINE.That was still big news,but had it been WILD polio there would

have been far more of a push to promote vaccines.Ofcourse there was

when a student brough measles back from...India I think it was.That

caused a big vaccine push.

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Polio is misunderstood a lot, I think, by many people. Edda West from

VRAN wrote a very good article about Polio and the true origins of it.

Here is the link for it:

http://www.vran.org/vaccines/polio/vaccine-pol.htm

I believe that Polio is being kept " alive " in the developing world

because of the vaccine. And, let's not forget the main difference

between the US and countries like India; the US is develped with most

people having access to good living conditions and better nutrtion (

at least they should)and in India most people are poor, living in

dirty living conditions and no access to nutrtious food to keep their

systems strong. This is what kills them plus the vaccines, not Polio.

If you improve the living conditions and the food, you don't need

vaccines. But tell this to the big pharma companies, they would not

make any money from healthy people.

Forgive me if I sound disrespectful, maybe I misunderstood your words.

Ingrid

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ingrid5317 <ingrid_schebesch@...> wrote:

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> The thing is vaccines do not cause autism,or any other type of

chronic illness.Anything BUT vaccines can be the cause

I reread this several times and still don't know if it is a mistake or

not. Surely, we all know on this list that vaccines DO cause autism

and many chronic diseases, not in every case but in many of them.

There are many other causes of autism and disease of course, but

vaccination is a significant one for many chronic ones.

After all, this is why we joined the list, for support and to express

our views about this happening.>>>>

I was being sarcastic

I have been on this list since 1999,before it was this current list.I often

make such remarks.It helps keep me from being frustrated by the general

disregard I see for vaccine injury.

As a vaccine injured adult I know all to well that vaccines cause harm,BUT

even today, everything other than the vaccines will be blamed to explain issues

that arise anytime after vaccination.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for posting this, Ingrid. I am confused by that statement too and hope to

read a response soon.

Anita

MattEmma06 <mattemma06@...> wrote:

ingrid5317 wrote:

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> The thing is vaccines do not cause autism,or any other type of

chronic illness.Anything BUT vaccines can be the cause

I reread this several times and still don't know if it is a mistake or

not. Surely, we all know on this list that vaccines DO cause autism

and many chronic diseases, not in every case but in many of them.

There are many other causes of autism and disease of course, but

vaccination is a significant one for many chronic ones.

After all, this is why we joined the list, for support and to express

our views about this happening.>>>>

I was being sarcastic

I have been on this list since 1999,before it was this current list.I often make

such remarks.It helps keep me from being frustrated by the general disregard I

see for vaccine injury.

As a vaccine injured adult I know all to well that vaccines cause harm,BUT even

today, everything other than the vaccines will be blamed to explain issues that

arise anytime after vaccination.

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[Guest guest]

Absolutely, Ingrid! People don't want to be inconvenienced with a temporary

illness, though. A friend of mine had a brother with polio in the 50s. He

was in the hospital for a week, and came home just fine. There were 5 other

kids in the house. No one else came down with it.

I've heard that 95% of people with polio don't know it because it caused no

symptoms or serious effects. In the other 5% most have the " nonparalytic "

form. Makes you wonder how the ones who developed the more serious form

(paralytic) were treated. The word " suppression " comes to my mind. Even if

they were just treated with pain relievers, that would be enough to cause

serious effects in many.

Kay

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> What would parents rather have? A child that has measles and needs bed

> rest and lots of TLC for about 2 weeks or a child that has asthma,

> diabetes, life threatening allergies, neurolgical problems, eczema,

> automimmune disease etc. that need life long suprressive medication,

> stress for the whole family, missed days at school, risk of being bullied,

> not being able to take part in certain activities, living in a certain

> amount of fear and high costs for the NHS and the social services?

> I know what I would rather have...

> Ingrid

[Guest guest]

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> I was being sarcastic

I thought so.

Sorry if I sounded too blunt, just my strong feelings...

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> I have been on this list since 1999,before it was this current

list.I often make such remarks.It helps keep me from being frustrated

by the general disregard I see for vaccine injury.

Yes, I see what you mean. Me too!

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> As a vaccine injured adult I know all to well that vaccines cause

harm,BUT even today, everything other than the vaccines will be blamed

to explain issues that arise anytime after vaccination.

>

Very true!

Ingrid

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