Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 At 04:28 PM 10/5/2006 -0700, you wrote: >I received a call from the public school nurse where my 5yr-old attends a kindergartan autism program. She said she would be sending home a yellow form that she claims has been given to all schools in our county. The Catholic school my other two sons attend did not called about it. I told her I spoke with the Director of the NYS vaccination program in Albany back in 03 about an " official " form; he said no such form existed and to use what I had or write an exemption myself. I can't wait to see what this form looks like. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to call Albany and check out her story. Anyone else heard about this? > > Anita > Well, NY can be very tricky. Since it is becoming an issue better contact some of these for help. There is no form. New York (Medical/Religious exemptions) Joan Rosetta L.I.V.I.N.G. (Long Island Vaccination Information Network Group) PO Box 432 Centerport, NY 11721 (631)-757-5519 Bonnie Franz bpfc@... Alan Sherr doctorwell@... and Martha Fitzgerald frank@... New Yorkers for Vaccination Information and Choice P.O.Box 87 342 New York, NY 10128 http://www.goodlight.net/nyvic/ Don't try to do it yourself without some guidance Sheri > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 I certainly know a tricky form when I see one. I'll sign nothing I don't think represents properly my reason for exemption which is my personally held religious belief only; I will not explain myself or agree that I am putting my child at risk or any of that nonsense. I'll ask my husband to help me scan it or I'll just type it to the group if it's not too wordy which it should not be. Thank you for the contacts. I have friends who take their children to Dr. Sherr and only hear good things about him..Anita Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: Well, NY can be very tricky. Since it is becoming an issue better contact some of these for help. There is no form. New York (Medical/Religious exemptions) Joan Rosetta L.I.V.I.N.G. (Long Island Vaccination Information Network Group) PO Box 432 Centerport, NY 11721 (631)-757-5519 Bonnie Franz bpfc@... Alan Sherr doctorwell@... and Martha Fitzgerald frank@... New Yorkers for Vaccination Information and Choice P.O.Box 87 342 New York, NY 10128 http://www.goodlight.net/nyvic/ Don't try to do it yourself without some guidance Sheri > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 Hi There, I work as a first grade teacher in the California public school system. Although I am not familiar with any other state's guidelines, we are led to believe that a vaccination record is a mandatory component of accepting students to our school, however upon further investigation, every child's cumulative record has a blue form for the vaccination schedule, but when flipped to the opposite side, there is a philosophical waiver that states that due to your own personal beliefs you have chosen to exempt your child from receiving vaccinations, and a place for a parent signature and a clause that states that if there were an outbreak of any sort, you would be asked to come and pick your child up from school. I don't know if this helps you at all! le Vaccinations@...: vaccineinfo@...: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 01:25:17 +0100Subject: Re: RE: Call From School /New Exemption Form At 04:28 PM 10/5/2006 -0700, you wrote:>I received a call from the public school nurse where my 5yr-old attends akindergartan autism program. She said she would be sending home a yellowform that she claims has been given to all schools in our county. TheCatholic school my other two sons attend did not called about it. I toldher I spoke with the Director of the NYS vaccination program in Albany backin 03 about an " official " form; he said no such form existed and to usewhat I had or write an exemption myself. I can't wait to see what this formlooks like. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to call Albany and check out herstory. Anyone else heard about this?> > Anita>Well, NY can be very tricky.Since it is becoming an issue better contact some of these for help. Thereis no form.New York (Medical/Religious exemptions)Joan Rosetta L.I.V.I.N.G. (Long Island Vaccination Information Network Group)PO Box 432 Centerport, NY 11721(631)-757-5519Bonnie Franz bpfc@... Sherr doctorwell@... and Martha Fitzgerald frank@... Yorkers for Vaccination Information and ChoiceP.O.Box 87 342 New York, NY 10128 http://www.goodlight.net/nyvic/Don't try to do it yourself without some guidanceSheri>--------------------------------------------------------Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mailVaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htmVaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htmReality of the Diseases & Treatment -http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htmHomeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 At 08:27 PM 10/5/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Hi There, >I work as a first grade teacher in the California public school system. Although I am not familiar with any other state's guidelines, we are led to believe that a vaccination record is a mandatory component of accepting students to our school, however upon further investigation, every child's cumulative record has a blue form for the vaccination schedule, but when flipped to the opposite side, there is a philosophical waiver that states that due to your own personal beliefs you have chosen to exempt your child from receiving vaccinations, and a place for a parent signature and a clause that states that if there were an outbreak of any sort, you would be asked to come and pick your child up from school. I don't know if this helps you at all! > >le Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely. Every state is very different. Sheri >> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization Program. He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He doesn't know what the form looks like, only that it asks questions, must be notorized and approved by the school principal. I asked, " approved that the form is filled properly or approved for acceptance " , he said both. I don't like the sound of this at all. Don't forget I'm in an already delicate situation with cross-contracting Henry into another district. I'll share the wording and questions as promised as soon as I get the form in the mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but not mandated. Anita Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely. Every state is very different. Sheri --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 yes and contact those organizations I shared with you to get their opinion Sheri At 07:27 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization Program. He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He doesn't know what the form looks like, only that it asks questions, must be notorized and approved by the school principal. I asked, " approved that the form is filled properly or approved for acceptance " , he said both. I don't like the sound of this at all. Don't forget I'm in an already delicate situation with cross-contracting Henry into another district. I'll share the wording and questions as promised as soon as I get the form in the mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but not mandated. > > Anita > > >Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely. >Every state is very different. >Sheri >> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Sheri - I have emailed every contact you sent. The form came today; I need Owen to scan it. There are three questions: Explain in your own words why you are requesting this religious exemption. Describe the religious principals that guide your objection to immunization. Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not, the religious basis that prohibits certain immunizations. Before approval, the principal has the right to request supporting documents; from your church for example. That's about it. Anita Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: yes and contact those organizations I shared with you to get their opinion Sheri At 07:27 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization Program. He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He doesn't know what the form looks like, only that it asks questions, must be notorized and approved by the school principal. I asked, " approved that the form is filled properly or approved for acceptance " , he said both. I don't like the sound of this at all. Don't forget I'm in an already delicate situation with cross-contracting Henry into another district. I'll share the wording and questions as promised as soon as I get the form in the mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but not mandated. > > Anita > > >Sheri Nakken wrote: > Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely. >Every state is very different. >Sheri >> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 At 12:35 PM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Sheri - I have emailed every contact you sent. The form came today; I need Owen to scan it. There are three questions: Explain in your own words why you are requesting this religious exemption. Describe the religious principals that guide your objection to immunization. Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not, the religious basis that prohibits certain immunizations. Before approval, the principal has the right to request supporting documents; from your church for example. That's about it. > > Anita They cannot ask that. This is not the law in NY The priniciple does not get to be judge and jury http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/exemptions.htm but you need help from those people - phone them. Did you look at the links Sheri > >Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > yes and contact those organizations I shared with you to get their opinion > >Sheri > >At 07:27 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote: >>Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization >Program. He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He >doesn't know what the form looks like, only that it asks questions, must be >notorized and approved by the school principal. I asked, " approved that the >form is filled properly or approved for acceptance " , he said both. I don't >like the sound of this at all. Don't forget I'm in an already delicate >situation with cross-contracting Henry into another district. I'll share >the wording and questions as promised as soon as I get the form in the >mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but not mandated. >> >> Anita >> >> >>Sheri Nakken wrote: >> Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely. >>Every state is very different. >>Sheri >>> > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK >$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account >earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 >(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail >Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm >Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm >Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm >Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 At 09:12 PM 10/6/2006 -0000, you wrote: >Is this just for religious exemptions or for philosophical as well? > >So now school principals are religious/medical/legal experts in charge >of enforcing law? Exactly NY does not have philosophical exemption Every state has specific laws and every state you have to follow the law accordingly > >The form is not valid anyways as the word immunization is used. You'll >have to use your own form with the correct language. No, she needs to get expert help from those that know the ins and outs of NY law And this is the school her son goes to and she has to tread very lightly. > >I'd do everything possible to get around it rather than playing this >stupid game with some fool for a judge. I'm sure the folks at >http://www.famguardian.org/ would be helpful.> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Thanks, Dan. I have to be super careful here. My son is in an out of district school that my district is paying tuition for (we don't have an autism program). He could end up in limbo which would be a major set-back for him. This could be just awful!.....Anita <vaccinegenocide@...> wrote: Is this just for religious exemptions or for philosophical as well? So now school principals are religious/medical/legal experts in charge of enforcing law? The form is not valid anyways as the word immunization is used. You'll have to use your own form with the correct language. I'd do everything possible to get around it rather than playing this stupid game with some fool for a judge. I'm sure the folks at http://www.famguardian.org/ would be helpful. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Creepy. On Friday, October 6, 2006, at 03:35 PM, Anita Durney wrote: > Sheri - I have emailed every contact you sent. The form came today; I > need Owen to scan it. There are three questions: Explain in your own > words why you are requesting this religious exemption. Describe the > religious principals that guide your objection to immunization. > Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not, the > religious basis that prohibits certain immunizations. Before approval, > the principal has the right to request supporting documents; from your > church for example. That's about it. > > Anita > > Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > yes and contact those organizations I shared with you to get their > opinion > > Sheri > > At 07:27 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote: > >Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization > Program. He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He > doesn't know what the form looks like, only that it asks questions, > must be > notorized and approved by the school principal. I asked, " approved > that the > form is filled properly or approved for acceptance " , he said both. I > don't > like the sound of this at all. Don't forget I'm in an already delicate > situation with cross-contracting Henry into another district. I'll > share > the wording and questions as promised as soon as I get the form in the > mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but not mandated. > > > > Anita > > > > > >Sheri Nakken wrote: > > Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely. > >Every state is very different. > >Sheri > >> > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account > earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm > Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm > Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 hi guys, i just got my child into kindergarten in brooklyn, i haven't heard of this yet.it doesn't sound good. let me know if you hear of anything else regarding this. thanks liz --- maatian_ethic <maatian_ethic@...> wrote: > Hi. I live in Upstate New York, and I've not heard > of this. I'm > interested in your experience. I'd like to know how > it goes. > > Nia > > > > > > I received a call from the public school nurse > where my 5yr-old > attends a kindergartan autism program. She said she > would be sending > home a yellow form that she claims has been given to > all schools in > our county. The Catholic school my other two sons > attend did not > called about it. I told her I spoke with the > Director of the NYS > vaccination program in Albany back in 03 about an > " official " form; > he said no such form existed and to use what I had > or write an > exemption myself. I can't wait to see what this form > looks like. > Tomorrow morning, I'm going to call Albany and check > out her story. > Anyone else heard about this? > > > > Anita > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make > PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Henry is a new applicant to the school reguesting the form. This explains why the school my other two sons attend has not sent home forms for them; they have the originals on file. I guess I'll have to face this again when my oldest goes to high school in a few years. Thanks very much, Dan. Anita <vaccinegenocide@...> wrote: Found this searching around. http://www.schoolhealthservices.org/faq.cfm?subpage=41 IMMUNIZATION Question: With the new procedure for obtaining a religious exemption from immunizations, do current students with an exemption need to complete the form? Answer: This new exemption requirement only applies to new entrants. Students that currently attend school in your district and have a religious exemption from immunization do not need to follow this new procedure - their exemption continues to be valid. The procedure is only completed once, upon entrance, and does not need to be renewed on an annual basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 At 01:02 PM 10/12/2006 -0000, you wrote: >Something is very wrong with this. What happened to being able to >make your own medical decisions? Why should you have to explain >yourself? In a country like ours, we should have the basic freedom to >vax or not without having to have an exemption. This is just getting >ridiculous. Something has got to change. > >Tara That's the lie we've all been brainwashed with 'in a country like ours' Time for all to wake up and look around and take charge Sheri > > >> >> Sheri - I have emailed every contact you sent. The form came today; >I need Owen to scan it. There are three questions: Explain in your own >words why you are requesting this religious exemption. Describe the >religious principals that guide your objection to immunization. >Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not, the >religious basis that prohibits certain immunizations. Before approval, >the principal has the right to request supporting documents; from your >church for example. That's about it. >> > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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