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At 04:28 PM 10/5/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>I received a call from the public school nurse where my 5yr-old attends a

kindergartan autism program. She said she would be sending home a yellow

form that she claims has been given to all schools in our county. The

Catholic school my other two sons attend did not called about it. I told

her I spoke with the Director of the NYS vaccination program in Albany back

in 03 about an " official " form; he said no such form existed and to use

what I had or write an exemption myself. I can't wait to see what this form

looks like. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to call Albany and check out her

story. Anyone else heard about this?

>

> Anita

>

Well, NY can be very tricky.

Since it is becoming an issue better contact some of these for help. There

is no form.

New York (Medical/Religious exemptions)

Joan Rosetta

L.I.V.I.N.G. (Long Island Vaccination Information Network Group)

PO Box 432 Centerport, NY 11721

(631)-757-5519

Bonnie Franz bpfc@...

Alan Sherr doctorwell@...

and Martha Fitzgerald frank@...

New Yorkers for Vaccination Information and Choice

P.O.Box 87 342 New York, NY 10128 http://www.goodlight.net/nyvic/

Don't try to do it yourself without some guidance

Sheri

>

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I certainly know a tricky form when I see one. I'll sign nothing I don't think

represents properly my reason for exemption which is my personally held

religious belief only; I will not explain myself or agree that I am putting my

child at risk or any of that nonsense. I'll ask my husband to help me scan it or

I'll just type it to the group if it's not too wordy which it should not be.

Thank you for the contacts. I have friends who take their children to Dr. Sherr

and only hear good things about him..Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: Well, NY can be very tricky.

Since it is becoming an issue better contact some of these for help. There

is no form.

New York (Medical/Religious exemptions)

Joan Rosetta

L.I.V.I.N.G. (Long Island Vaccination Information Network Group)

PO Box 432 Centerport, NY 11721

(631)-757-5519

Bonnie Franz bpfc@...

Alan Sherr doctorwell@...

and Martha Fitzgerald frank@...

New Yorkers for Vaccination Information and Choice

P.O.Box 87 342 New York, NY 10128 http://www.goodlight.net/nyvic/

Don't try to do it yourself without some guidance

Sheri

>

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

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Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

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Hi There,

I work as a first grade teacher in the California public school system.

Although I am not familiar with any other state's guidelines, we are led to

believe that a vaccination record is a mandatory component of accepting students

to our school, however upon further investigation, every child's cumulative

record has a blue form for the vaccination schedule, but when flipped to the

opposite side, there is a philosophical waiver that states that due to your own

personal beliefs you have chosen to exempt your child from receiving

vaccinations, and a place for a parent signature and a clause that states that

if there were an outbreak of any sort, you would be asked to come and pick your

child up from school. I don't know if this helps you at all!

le

Vaccinations@...: vaccineinfo@...: Fri, 6 Oct 2006

01:25:17 +0100Subject: Re: RE: Call From School /New Exemption

Form

At 04:28 PM 10/5/2006 -0700, you wrote:>I received a call from the public school

nurse where my 5yr-old attends akindergartan autism program. She said she would

be sending home a yellowform that she claims has been given to all schools in

our county. TheCatholic school my other two sons attend did not called about it.

I toldher I spoke with the Director of the NYS vaccination program in Albany

backin 03 about an " official " form; he said no such form existed and to usewhat

I had or write an exemption myself. I can't wait to see what this formlooks

like. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to call Albany and check out herstory. Anyone

else heard about this?> > Anita>Well, NY can be very tricky.Since it is becoming

an issue better contact some of these for help. Thereis no form.New York

(Medical/Religious exemptions)Joan Rosetta L.I.V.I.N.G. (Long Island Vaccination

Information Network Group)PO Box 432 Centerport, NY 11721(631)-757-5519Bonnie

Franz bpfc@... Sherr doctorwell@... and Martha Fitzgerald

frank@... Yorkers for Vaccination Information and ChoiceP.O.Box 87

342 New York, NY 10128 http://www.goodlight.net/nyvic/Don't try to do it

yourself without some

guidanceSheri>--------------------------------------------------------Sheri

Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice

Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by

Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561(go to

http://www.paypal.com) or by mailVaccines -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htmVaccine Dangers On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htmReality of the Diseases & Treatment

-http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htmHomeopathy On-Line course -

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At 08:27 PM 10/5/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi There,

>I work as a first grade teacher in the California public school system.

Although I am not familiar with any other state's guidelines, we are led to

believe that a vaccination record is a mandatory component of accepting

students to our school, however upon further investigation, every child's

cumulative record has a blue form for the vaccination schedule, but when

flipped to the opposite side, there is a philosophical waiver that states

that due to your own personal beliefs you have chosen to exempt your child

from receiving vaccinations, and a place for a parent signature and a

clause that states that if there were an outbreak of any sort, you would be

asked to come and pick your child up from school. I don't know if this

helps you at all!

>

>le

Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely.

Every state is very different.

Sheri

>>

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

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Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization Program.

He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He doesn't know what

the form looks like, only that it asks questions, must be notorized and approved

by the school principal. I asked, " approved that the form is filled properly or

approved for acceptance " , he said both. I don't like the sound of this at all.

Don't forget I'm in an already delicate situation with cross-contracting Henry

into another district. I'll share the wording and questions as promised as soon

as I get the form in the mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but

not mandated.

Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely.

Every state is very different.

Sheri

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yes and contact those organizations I shared with you to get their opinion

Sheri

At 07:27 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization

Program. He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He

doesn't know what the form looks like, only that it asks questions, must be

notorized and approved by the school principal. I asked, " approved that the

form is filled properly or approved for acceptance " , he said both. I don't

like the sound of this at all. Don't forget I'm in an already delicate

situation with cross-contracting Henry into another district. I'll share

the wording and questions as promised as soon as I get the form in the

mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but not mandated.

>

> Anita

>

>

>Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

> Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely.

>Every state is very different.

>Sheri

>>

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

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Sheri - I have emailed every contact you sent. The form came today; I need Owen

to scan it. There are three questions: Explain in your own words why you are

requesting this religious exemption. Describe the religious principals that

guide your objection to immunization. Indicate whether you are opposed to all

immunizations, and if not, the religious basis that prohibits certain

immunizations. Before approval, the principal has the right to request

supporting documents; from your church for example. That's about it.

Anita

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

yes and contact those organizations I shared with you to get their opinion

Sheri

At 07:27 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization

Program. He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He

doesn't know what the form looks like, only that it asks questions, must be

notorized and approved by the school principal. I asked, " approved that the

form is filled properly or approved for acceptance " , he said both. I don't

like the sound of this at all. Don't forget I'm in an already delicate

situation with cross-contracting Henry into another district. I'll share

the wording and questions as promised as soon as I get the form in the

mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but not mandated.

>

> Anita

>

>

>Sheri Nakken wrote:

> Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely.

>Every state is very different.

>Sheri

>>

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

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At 12:35 PM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>Sheri - I have emailed every contact you sent. The form came today; I need

Owen to scan it. There are three questions: Explain in your own words why

you are requesting this religious exemption. Describe the religious

principals that guide your objection to immunization. Indicate whether you

are opposed to all immunizations, and if not, the religious basis that

prohibits certain immunizations. Before approval, the principal has the

right to request supporting documents; from your church for example. That's

about it.

>

> Anita

They cannot ask that.

This is not the law in NY

The priniciple does not get to be judge and jury

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/exemptions.htm

but you need help from those people - phone them.

Did you look at the links

Sheri

>

>Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

> yes and contact those organizations I shared with you to get their opinion

>

>Sheri

>

>At 07:27 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:

>>Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization

>Program. He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He

>doesn't know what the form looks like, only that it asks questions, must be

>notorized and approved by the school principal. I asked, " approved that the

>form is filled properly or approved for acceptance " , he said both. I don't

>like the sound of this at all. Don't forget I'm in an already delicate

>situation with cross-contracting Henry into another district. I'll share

>the wording and questions as promised as soon as I get the form in the

>mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but not mandated.

>>

>> Anita

>>

>>

>>Sheri Nakken wrote:

>> Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely.

>>Every state is very different.

>>Sheri

>>>

>

>--------------------------------------------------------

>Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

>Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

>$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

>earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

>(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

>Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

>Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

>Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>

>

>

>

>

>

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At 09:12 PM 10/6/2006 -0000, you wrote:

>Is this just for religious exemptions or for philosophical as well?

>

>So now school principals are religious/medical/legal experts in charge

>of enforcing law?

Exactly

NY does not have philosophical exemption

Every state has specific laws and every state you have to follow the law

accordingly

>

>The form is not valid anyways as the word immunization is used. You'll

>have to use your own form with the correct language.

No, she needs to get expert help from those that know the ins and outs of

NY law

And this is the school her son goes to and she has to tread very lightly.

>

>I'd do everything possible to get around it rather than playing this

>stupid game with some fool for a judge. I'm sure the folks at

>http://www.famguardian.org/ would be helpful.>

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

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Thanks, Dan. I have to be super careful here. My son is in an out of district

school that my district is paying tuition for (we don't have an autism program).

He could end up in limbo which would be a major set-back for him. This could be

just awful!.....Anita

<vaccinegenocide@...> wrote: Is this just for religious

exemptions or for philosophical as well?

So now school principals are religious/medical/legal experts in charge

of enforcing law?

The form is not valid anyways as the word immunization is used. You'll

have to use your own form with the correct language.

I'd do everything possible to get around it rather than playing this

stupid game with some fool for a judge. I'm sure the folks at

http://www.famguardian.org/ would be helpful.

Dan

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On Friday, October 6, 2006, at 03:35 PM, Anita Durney wrote:

> Sheri - I have emailed every contact you sent. The form came today; I

> need Owen to scan it. There are three questions: Explain in your own

> words why you are requesting this religious exemption. Describe the

> religious principals that guide your objection to immunization.

> Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not, the

> religious basis that prohibits certain immunizations. Before approval,

> the principal has the right to request supporting documents; from your

> church for example. That's about it.

>

> Anita

>

> Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote:

> yes and contact those organizations I shared with you to get their

> opinion

>

> Sheri

>

> At 07:27 AM 10/6/2006 -0700, you wrote:

> >Sheri - I just got off the phone with the Director of NYS Immunization

> Program. He confirmed their is a new mandatory form from State Ed. He

> doesn't know what the form looks like, only that it asks questions,

> must be

> notorized and approved by the school principal. I asked, " approved

> that the

> form is filled properly or approved for acceptance " , he said both. I

> don't

> like the sound of this at all. Don't forget I'm in an already delicate

> situation with cross-contracting Henry into another district. I'll

> share

> the wording and questions as promised as soon as I get the form in the

> mail. Catholic schools are urged to use the form, but not mandated.

> >

> > Anita

> >

> >

> >Sheri Nakken wrote:

> > Yes that is true for California but NY is another case entirely.

> >Every state is very different.

> >Sheri

> >>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>

>

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hi guys, i just got my child into kindergarten in

brooklyn, i haven't heard of this yet.it doesn't sound

good. :( let me know if you hear of anything else

regarding this.

thanks

liz

--- maatian_ethic <maatian_ethic@...> wrote:

> Hi. I live in Upstate New York, and I've not heard

> of this. I'm

> interested in your experience. I'd like to know how

> it goes.

>

> Nia

>

>

> >

> > I received a call from the public school nurse

> where my 5yr-old

> attends a kindergartan autism program. She said she

> would be sending

> home a yellow form that she claims has been given to

> all schools in

> our county. The Catholic school my other two sons

> attend did not

> called about it. I told her I spoke with the

> Director of the NYS

> vaccination program in Albany back in 03 about an

> " official " form;

> he said no such form existed and to use what I had

> or write an

> exemption myself. I can't wait to see what this form

> looks like.

> Tomorrow morning, I'm going to call Albany and check

> out her story.

> Anyone else heard about this?

> >

> > Anita

> >

> >

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Henry is a new applicant to the school reguesting the form. This explains why

the school my other two sons attend has not sent home forms for them; they have

the originals on file. I guess I'll have to face this again when my oldest goes

to high school in a few years. Thanks very much, Dan.

Anita

<vaccinegenocide@...> wrote:

Found this searching around.

http://www.schoolhealthservices.org/faq.cfm?subpage=41

IMMUNIZATION

Question: With the new procedure for obtaining a religious exemption

from immunizations, do current students with an exemption need to

complete the form?

Answer: This new exemption requirement only applies to new entrants.

Students that currently attend school in your district and have a

religious exemption from immunization do not need to follow this new

procedure - their exemption continues to be valid. The procedure is

only completed once, upon entrance, and does not need to be renewed on

an annual basis.

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At 01:02 PM 10/12/2006 -0000, you wrote:

>Something is very wrong with this. What happened to being able to

>make your own medical decisions? Why should you have to explain

>yourself? In a country like ours, we should have the basic freedom to

>vax or not without having to have an exemption. This is just getting

>ridiculous. Something has got to change.

>

>Tara

That's the lie we've all been brainwashed with

'in a country like ours'

Time for all to wake up and look around and take charge

Sheri

>

>

>>

>> Sheri - I have emailed every contact you sent. The form came today;

>I need Owen to scan it. There are three questions: Explain in your own

>words why you are requesting this religious exemption. Describe the

>religious principals that guide your objection to immunization.

>Indicate whether you are opposed to all immunizations, and if not, the

>religious basis that prohibits certain immunizations. Before approval,

>the principal has the right to request supporting documents; from your

>church for example. That's about it.

>> >

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Reality of the Diseases & Treatment -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

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