Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Thanks for this Sheri. I worry about the strong emphasis in this article on screening for HPV, in other words smear tests, as they are called here in the UK. I have given up those kind of tests many years ago as I have read how useless they really are at detecting HPV and other dangerous side effects that the test has. I wonder if this article should really focus more on the healthy living part of the human body to prevent viruses causing illness instead of making the screening out to be the answer to the problem. All other aspects of the article are good, though. Ingrid > >Sheri, > > > > Are you going to add any new stuff on the HPV vaccine? I am trying to > talk to as many friends as I can since most of our daughters are fast > approaching this milestone. I would love to be able to point them to a > site that gives them several reputable articles. > > > > Thanks, > > Sheri B. > > > > For now use Suzannes article at JABS > > From: " jackie@jabs " <jackie@...> > > http://www.jabs.org.uk > > > > This article has just been published on the JABS website with thanks to > Suzanne . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 At 11:53 AM 9/27/2006 -0000, you wrote: >Thanks for this Sheri. I worry about the strong emphasis in this >article on screening for HPV, in other words smear tests, as they are >called here in the UK. I have given up those kind of tests many years >ago as I have read how useless they really are at detecting HPV and >other dangerous side effects that the test has. I wonder if this >article should really focus more on the healthy living part of the >human body to prevent viruses causing illness instead of making the >screening out to be the answer to the problem. >All other aspects of the article are good, though. >Ingrid I agree totally and I think Suzanne probably does too, but she was writing for mainstream and was providing a balance I think. Email her She's one of my vaccine dangers class students and an excellent writer and really aware and I'm sure she will have a chat with you In fact I am going to cc her this " Suzanne " <suzanne.nelson@...> Sheri > > >> >Sheri, >> > >> > Are you going to add any new stuff on the HPV vaccine? I am >trying to >> talk to as many friends as I can since most of our daughters are fast >> approaching this milestone. I would love to be able to point them to a >> site that gives them several reputable articles. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Sheri B. >> > >> >> For now use Suzannes article at JABS >> >> From: " jackie@jabs " <jackie@...> >> >> http://www.jabs.org.uk >> >> >> >> This article has just been published on the JABS website with thanks to >> Suzanne . >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 This was an EXCELLENT article and I just sent it to about 20 people. I hope they will forward and start people asking questions and saying NO to their doctors. Sheri B. --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Ingrid, Thank you for the constructive criticism. I agree with you on the PAP smears, but Sheri was right in that I was writing that article for a mainstream audience. Even my " holistic " friends freak out when I even allude to not needing or wanting to get such a test annually. It's often difficult when presenting an alternative view on health to find a starting point. To the best I can, I am trying to meet people where they are. For many, that is stuck in an allopathic frame of mind where every turn of life has to be accompanied by a doctor's visit. I also think it's interesting that even accepting the medical paradigm's assumptions (which I generally don't), we can still beat them with their own messed up logic. HPV infection is pervasive yet cervical cancer is listed as a rare disease by the US National Institutes of Health. Why? Ask that to any doctor. When you get the inevitable response that most people pass the virus naturally on their own, then the next question, of course, is why we are willing to risk harm or death by vaccinating everyone then? Like most " diseases " we vaccinate for these days, the chance of being harmed by the " cure " is higher than contracting the disease itself, in this case cervical cancer. I happen to believe that there is harm from every single shot to every single person, even if we don't see it or attribute the mental, emotional and physiological changes to other things. But again, even accepting the medical model and its limited view of what constitutes a vaccine reaction, the harm done by the HPV shot is likely to outpace the people it theoretically helps. Take care, Suzanne The article is available here: jabs.org.uk On 9/27/06, Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > At 11:53 AM 9/27/2006 -0000, you wrote: > >Thanks for this Sheri. I worry about the strong emphasis in this > >article on screening for HPV, in other words smear tests, as they are > >called here in the UK. I have given up those kind of tests many years > >ago as I have read how useless they really are at detecting HPV and > >other dangerous side effects that the test has. I wonder if this > >article should really focus more on the healthy living part of the > >human body to prevent viruses causing illness instead of making the > >screening out to be the answer to the problem. > >All other aspects of the article are good, though. > >Ingrid > > I agree totally and I think Suzanne probably does too, but she was writing > for mainstream and was providing a balance I think. > Email her > She's one of my vaccine dangers class students and an excellent writer and > really aware and I'm sure she will have a chat with you > > In fact I am going to cc her this > " Suzanne " <suzanne.nelson@...> > > Sheri > > > > > > > >> >Sheri, > >> > > >> > Are you going to add any new stuff on the HPV vaccine? I am > >trying to > >> talk to as many friends as I can since most of our daughters are fast > >> approaching this milestone. I would love to be able to point them to a > >> site that gives them several reputable articles. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Sheri B. > >> > > >> > >> For now use Suzannes article at JABS > >> > >> From: " jackie@jabs " <jackie@...> > >> > >> http://www.jabs.org.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Can you resend that information? It says that it has been removed. --- " Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote: > This was an EXCELLENT article and I just sent it to > about 20 people. I hope they will forward and start > people asking questions and saying NO to their > doctors. > Sheri B. > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. > We'll help. Small Business. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Excellent points, Suzanne. The big problem is, those mental, emotional, and physiological changes that occur after vaccinations never get tied to the source (the shots). More drugs are given to counteract the damaging results and the masses are none the wiser but just get sicker and sicker. I, too, believe vaccines are never justified. We'll never know the true damage they have caused and continue to cause in society. By allopathic thinking, people today should be the healthiest ever as a result of all the " medical advances " and new drugs. But the opposite is true, and the majority of people refuse to see it. Kay Re: HPV article from JABS When you get the inevitable response that most people pass the virus > naturally on their own, then the next question, of course, is why we are > willing to risk harm or death by vaccinating everyone then? Like most > " diseases " we vaccinate for these days, the chance of being harmed by the > " cure " is higher than contracting the disease itself, in this case > cervical > cancer. I happen to believe that there is harm from every single shot to > every single person, even if we don't see it or attribute the mental, > emotional and physiological changes to other things. But again, even > accepting the medical model and its limited view of what constitutes a > vaccine reaction, the harm done by the HPV shot is likely to outpace the > people it theoretically helps. > > Take care, > Suzanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Hi Suzanne, thank you for you clarifying this. I totally agree with you, I have not had smear tests in a long, long time now and won't talk about it to friends or relatives, except one, who is on the same wavelength as me. It is wonderful to see so many well informed people in the UK spreading the word. I will joing Sheri's hom. class as well. I have spent over 7 years researching vaccination. It all started when my son deveoped eczema at age 3 months, after his first baby jabs, in spite of excl. breastfeeding, late solids (at 8 months), elimination diet in me etc. I am so glad I found out in time about the dangers of vaccination and about true, real health that can only be achieved with a strong immune system. Since then I have also found out about dangers of allopathic medicine in general, including the smear test. You are right to write the article for mainstream audiences, at least this way you can reach a lot more people. Keep up the great work! Love, Ingrid > > Ingrid, > > Thank you for the constructive criticism. I agree with you on the PAP > smears, but Sheri was right in that I was writing that article for a > mainstream audience. Even my " holistic " friends freak out when I even allude > to not needing or wanting to get such a test annually. > > It's often difficult when presenting an alternative view on health to find a > starting point. To the best I can, I am trying to meet people where they > are. For many, that is stuck in an allopathic frame of mind where every turn > of life has to be accompanied by a doctor's visit. > > I also think it's interesting that even accepting the medical paradigm's > assumptions (which I generally don't), we can still beat them with their own > messed up logic. HPV infection is pervasive yet cervical cancer is listed as > a rare disease by the US National Institutes of Health. Why? Ask that to any > doctor. When you get the inevitable response that most people pass the virus > naturally on their own, then the next question, of course, is why we are > willing to risk harm or death by vaccinating everyone then? Like most > " diseases " we vaccinate for these days, the chance of being harmed by the > " cure " is higher than contracting the disease itself, in this case cervical > cancer. I happen to believe that there is harm from every single shot to > every single person, even if we don't see it or attribute the mental, > emotional and physiological changes to other things. But again, even > accepting the medical model and its limited view of what constitutes a > vaccine reaction, the harm done by the HPV shot is likely to outpace the > people it theoretically helps. > > Take care, > Suzanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 The article is still there - http://www.jabs.org.uk/pages/article3.doc Sue > Re: HPV article from JABS > > > Can you resend that information? It says that it has > been removed. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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