Re: Seriphos for adrenals...

[Guest guest]

Yes, Seriphos lowers cortisol so one takes it at night, but according to my

doctor, who

bases all of her work on studies, it also gradually helps to reset the circadian

rhythm, so

that if one can lower their high cortisol at night, the adrenals slowly build up

reserves so

those reserves are available when needed in the morning.

But it takes about a year to do this...

d.

>

> Seriphos is one of the brand names of phosphatidyl serine. Although I have

not seen

any clinical proofs of its usefulness, some people use phosphatidyl serine in

order to lower

high cortisol. It is most commonly used to boost the brain, often used by

Alzheimers'

patients. Those who use it to lower cortisol often take it at night because,

they say, it

tends to make them sleepy.

>

> The supplement that is used to conserve cortisol in the body, having the

effect of an

increase in cortisol, is licorice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I tried this one day and I got a huge mrigraine and my glands became swollen,

moreso than usual, and I felt very unwell the whole day and it took several days

to recover.

I didn't know that this product was supposed to lower cortisol. I thought it

was supportive. My cortisol levels are pretty low as it is. Is it possible

this is why I had a bad reaction to it?

My bio-identical hormone specialist wants to put me on natural cortisol to help

get my levels more stablized and to help my severe allergies. I have put this

off since I wanted to give the

Seriphos a try, but now that I read that it is suppose to lower cortisol, I

can't afford to have my levels go any lower. Any thoughts from anyone?

Thanks,

Dawn

Re: Seriphos for adrenals...

Yes, Seriphos lowers cortisol so one takes it at night, but according to my

doctor, who

bases all of her work on studies, it also gradually helps to reset the circadian

rhythm, so

that if one can lower their high cortisol at night, the adrenals slowly build up

reserves so

those reserves are available when needed in the morning.

But it takes about a year to do this...

d.

>

> Seriphos is one of the brand names of phosphatidyl serine. Although I have not

seen

any clinical proofs of its usefulness, some people use phosphatidyl serine in

order to lower

high cortisol. It is most commonly used to boost the brain, often used by

Alzheimers'

patients. Those who use it to lower cortisol often take it at night because,

they say, it

tends to make them sleepy.

>

> The supplement that is used to conserve cortisol in the body, having the

effect of an

increase in cortisol, is licorice.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not a doctor, but that could be why you felt worse -- if your cortisol was

low already,

then if it did lower them further, that could explain it.

It is in general considered supportive of the adrenals, but it does so by slowly

re-

regulating the natural circadian rhythm -- by lowering cortisol at night, so

that it isn't

wasted when it's supposed to be lower -- and thus gradually building up reserves

so that

one has more cortisol in the daytime, especially the morning.

d

>

>

> I tried this one day and I got a huge mrigraine and my glands became swollen,

moreso

than usual, and I felt very unwell the whole day and it took several days to

recover.

> I didn't know that this product was supposed to lower cortisol. I thought it

was

supportive. My cortisol levels are pretty low as it is. Is it possible this is

why I had a bad

reaction to it?

> My bio-identical hormone specialist wants to put me on natural cortisol to

help get my

levels more stablized and to help my severe allergies. I have put this off

since I wanted to

give the

> Seriphos a try, but now that I read that it is suppose to lower cortisol, I

can't afford to

have my levels go any lower. Any thoughts from anyone?

> Thanks,

> Dawn

>

[Guest guest]

" Supportive " is too vague a term to be useful in this context.

Public goes around thinking PS is " supportive of adrenals " .

The subject demands detail, as the alternative is harm from

allowing ignorance to flourish. :-(

" Suppportive " by itself sounds like a marketing term.

Carol

" kdrbrill " <kdrbrill@...> wrote:

>

> I'm not a doctor, but that could be why you felt worse -- if your

cortisol was low already,

> then if it did lower them further, that could explain it.

>

> It is in general considered supportive of the adrenals,

>but it does so by slowly re-

> regulating the natural circadian rhythm -- by

>lowering cortisol at night, so that it isn't

> wasted when it's supposed to be lower -- and

>thus gradually building up reserves so that

> one has more cortisol in the daytime, especially the morning.

>

> d

" Dawn V " <DMV3@> wrote:

> > I tried this one day and I got a huge mrigraine

>and my glands became swollen, moreso

> than usual, and I felt very unwell the whole day

>and it took several days to recover.

> > I didn't know that this product was supposed to lower cortisol.

I thought it was

> supportive. My cortisol levels are pretty

>low as it is. Is it possible this is why I had a bad

> reaction to it?

> > Dawn

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That's precisely why I went on to explain HOW it is considered supportive, by

gradually

resetting the body's circadian rhythm...by lowering nightime cortisol so that

the body can

build up reserves to be used in the morning.

> >

> > I'm not a doctor, but that could be why you felt worse -- if your

> cortisol was low already,

> > then if it did lower them further, that could explain it.

> >

> > It is in general considered supportive of the adrenals,

> >but it does so by slowly re-

> > regulating the natural circadian rhythm -- by

> >lowering cortisol at night, so that it isn't

> > wasted when it's supposed to be lower -- and

> >thus gradually building up reserves so that

> > one has more cortisol in the daytime, especially the morning.

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much, d. Yes, I used phosphatidyl serine for this very purpose--to

try to reset the circadian rhythm of my adrenal glands. Unfortunately it did

not work for me, perhaps because I did not use it for a year. I was

experimenting on my own and did not know that it would take a year. What I did

instead was to use Cortef, which appears to have reset my circadian rhythm.

I am amazed at the intelligence and knowledge of the people in this group. I

haven't found doctors who know this much. In fact I have been looking for a

good doctor for endocrine problems for at least a year, and I haven't found one

yet. You are very fortunate to have a doctor who knows this much. When I've

tried to discuss this with my own doctors, they just stare at me as if I were

speaking an unknown language. If you have any good ideas on how to find a good

doctor, I would be most eager to hear.

Re: Seriphos for adrenals...

Yes, Seriphos lowers cortisol so one takes it at night, but according to my

doctor, who

bases all of her work on studies, it also gradually helps to reset the

circadian rhythm, so

that if one can lower their high cortisol at night, the adrenals slowly build

up reserves so

those reserves are available when needed in the morning.

But it takes about a year to do this...

d.

>

> Seriphos is one of the brand names of phosphatidyl serine. Although I have

not seen

any clinical proofs of its usefulness, some people use phosphatidyl serine in

order to lower

high cortisol.

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[Guest guest]

Did the Cortef cause you to gain weight?? What dosage did you use??

Thank you for the help,

Janet

<retractap@...> wrote:

Thank you so much, d. Yes, I used phosphatidyl serine for this very

purpose--to try to reset the circadian rhythm of my adrenal glands.

Unfortunately it did not work for me, perhaps because I did not use it for a

year. I was experimenting on my own and did not know that it would take a year.

What I did instead was to use Cortef, which appears to have reset my circadian

rhythm.

I am amazed at the intelligence and knowledge of the people in this group. I

haven't found doctors who know this much. In fact I have been looking for a good

doctor for endocrine problems for at least a year, and I haven't found one yet.

You are very fortunate to have a doctor who knows this much. When I've tried to

discuss this with my own doctors, they just stare at me as if I were speaking an

unknown language. If you have any good ideas on how to find a good doctor, I

would be most eager to hear.

Re: Seriphos for adrenals...

Yes, Seriphos lowers cortisol so one takes it at night, but according to my

doctor, who

bases all of her work on studies, it also gradually helps to reset the circadian

rhythm, so

that if one can lower their high cortisol at night, the adrenals slowly build up

reserves so

those reserves are available when needed in the morning.

But it takes about a year to do this...

d.

>

> Seriphos is one of the brand names of phosphatidyl serine. Although I have not

seen

any clinical proofs of its usefulness, some people use phosphatidyl serine in

order to lower

high cortisol.

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[Guest guest]

There are two brands of products named Seriphos on the market, one

from InterPlexus and another from T.E. Neesby. [This was as of Feb/

2007, when I checked.] They seem to be two different products.

--The one from InterPlexus says it contains: " Proprietary Blend 1000mg

Phosphorylated, Serine/Ethanolamine "

--The one from T.E. Neesby just lists: Calcium 180 Mg; Magnesium 180

Mg; Phosphorus 760 Mg; L-Serine 180 Mg.

It may amount to the same thing, but they don't appear to be

identical. For one thing, the latter adds up to 1300 mg of active

ingredient, as opposed to 1000mg. And why aren't they more proud of

how Phosphorylated their Serine is?

The Neesby, sold by Vitamin Shoppe, among others, tends to be a little

cheaper, but I am not so comfortable with what's actually in it--even

though that could just be my biochemical ignorance. So: " For What It's

Worth. " I have no connection or interests with either these companies.

--

[Guest guest]

I would prefer Interplexus product as I am sensitive to hydrogenated

oils.According to label Interplexus product does not contain magnesium

stearate.

`How Much Hydrogenated Lubricant Oils Are You Getting With Your Supplements?

Up to 5% of the average 1000 mg capsule or tablet is magnesium stearate.

That's 50 milligrams. Suppose you take 8 capsules or tablets a day. That's

250 a month - or 12,500 mg of this hydrogenated oil, nearly half an ounce. `

http://www.drrons.com/beware-additives.htm

bw

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Re: Seriphos for adrenals...

> There are two brands of products named Seriphos on the market, one

> from InterPlexus and another from T.E. Neesby. [This was as of Feb/

> 2007, when I checked.] They seem to be two different products.

>

>

[Guest guest]

, thank you for your suggestions on the licorice ideas. My

bio-identical hormone specialist has prescribed

Cortef for me to help get my cortisol levels up, but I have not started on it

because I have read that some people with ME/CFS have

had adverse reactions to it, and I am one of those extremely sensitive

individuals that has had too many bad experiences

with steroids in the past. My doctor has tried to reassure me that this is

natural and my body makes it anyway. She also

believes that this will correct my severe allergies and MCS.

Since I read that you have been on Cortef, did you find it helpful for other

things besides re-setting your circadian rhythm?

I may go ahead and try the Cortef, but I like to get feedback from others who

have had experience with it.

Suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Dawn

Re: Seriphos for adrenals...

Yes, Seriphos lowers cortisol so one takes it at night, but according to my

doctor, who

bases all of her work on studies, it also gradually helps to reset the circadian

rhythm, so

that if one can lower their high cortisol at night, the adrenals slowly build up

reserves so

those reserves are available when needed in the morning.

But it takes about a year to do this...

d.

>

> Seriphos is one of the brand names of phosphatidyl serine. Although I have not

seen

any clinical proofs of its usefulness, some people use phosphatidyl serine in

order to lower

high cortisol.

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