Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Yes . . . Methylating the mercury helps pull it from the tissues but it can also redistribute it at the same time especially the fatty brain . . you need something like chlorella to help absorb the HG and hopefully bind and pull it out through the stools..Some people may try RLA or ALA if they do not have issues with the CBS+ snp. Sue T kdrbrill <kdrbrill@...> wrote: This will sound bizarre, but does methylating the mercury help remove it from the tissues, and eventually the body? And if so, could perhaps this be the reason you've had such strong reactions from your probiotics? ??? Dan > > Hi All, > > Just wanted to share this paragraph from > www.tuberose.com/mercury.html. > > " Bacteria and Yeast > When people have mercury amalgams or just has elevated mercury in > their > body, the friendly bacteria (probiotics) will convert the mercury > into > methyl mercury, which is at least 100 times more toxic than ordinary > mercury. Research shows that oral bacteria, yeast and probiotics all > methylate mercury, so you should minimize any contact between the > bacteria and your mercury. The methylation of mercury could explain > some of the adverse reactions reported by parents and patients who > have > begun detox with massive doses of probiotics to correct dysbiosis. " > > Every night I take my probiotics I have terrible nausea and neruo > problems . . same when I take MB12 shots . . I truly believe that > the > probiotics and Methyl B12 is making my HG problems in my brain worse. > > Just wanted to share. The whole article is interesting . . lots of > us > already know this, but found it a nice review of HG. > > Best wishes, Sue T > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Hi Per, Yes it is . . Dr. Pimentel who wrote the " A New IBS Solution " does not recommend probiotics out right either . . and is doing a study of a form of Bifidus as a possibility to maybe help with Dysbiosis. Not sure if results are available yet. I do take probiotics but I do not over do them . . . I now make sure I take 2 grams of Chlorella all at once per doc in between supps and meals to help mop up any Mercury etc . . . it seems to help some. Sue T per h <pehan03@...> wrote: Hi, Interesting article and a possible explanation of why some seem to get really much worse on probiotics. Ive also been thinking of possible autoimmunity or herxheimer or that the probiotics can become food for bad bacteria if there is a real bad dysbiosis. A difficult issue for sure. Per > Hi All, > > Just wanted to share this paragraph from > www.tuberose.com/mercury.html. > > " Bacteria and Yeast > When people have mercury amalgams or just has elevated mercury in > their > body, the friendly bacteria (probiotics) will convert the mercury > into > methyl mercury, which is at least 100 times more toxic than ordinary > mercury. Research shows that oral bacteria, yeast and probiotics all > methylate mercury, so you should minimize any contact between the > bacteria and your mercury. The methylation of mercury could explain > some of the adverse reactions reported by parents and patients who > have > begun detox with massive doses of probiotics to correct dysbiosis. " > > Every night I take my probiotics I have terrible nausea and neruo > problems . . same when I take MB12 shots . . I truly believe that > the > probiotics and Methyl B12 is making my HG problems in my brain worse. > > Just wanted to share. The whole article is interesting . . lots of > us > already know this, but found it a nice review of HG. > > Best wishes, Sue T > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 I had a terrible leaky gut problem,constipation. I could not eat animal protein for minimum two years. Whenever I had it i was having skin eruptions at soles of my hands and feet.Started developing B12 deficiency anemia.Probiotics helped me greatly to get out of this. At this point I started being able to have some animal protein. Gained some weight. While my digestive system was getting better and I was gaining weight my neurological problems increased terribly. I must say that I was also taking methylcobalamin during that time.So,I am not sure if it was methylcobalamin or probiotics which made my neurological problems worse. I was intolerant of chlorella. Would activated charcoal help? thanks Nil Re: Re: Probiotics methylate Mercury . . .?? > Hi Per, > > Yes it is . . Dr. Pimentel who wrote the " A New IBS Solution " does not > recommend probiotics out right either . . and is doing a study of a form > of Bifidus as a possibility to maybe help with Dysbiosis. Not sure if > results are available yet. > > > I do take probiotics but I do not over do them . . . I now make sure I > take 2 grams of Chlorella all at once per doc in between supps and meals > to help mop up any Mercury etc . . . it seems to help some. > > Sue T > > > > per h <pehan03@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > Interesting article and a possible explanation of why some seem to > get really much worse on probiotics. > > Ive also been thinking of possible autoimmunity or herxheimer or > that the probiotics can become food for bad bacteria if there is a > real bad dysbiosis. > > A difficult issue for sure. > > Per > >> Hi All, >> >> Just wanted to share this paragraph from >> www.tuberose.com/mercury.html. >> >> " Bacteria and Yeast >> When people have mercury amalgams or just has elevated mercury in >> their >> body, the friendly bacteria (probiotics) will convert the mercury >> into >> methyl mercury, which is at least 100 times more toxic than ordinary >> mercury. Research shows that oral bacteria, yeast and probiotics all >> methylate mercury, so you should minimize any contact between the >> bacteria and your mercury. The methylation of mercury could explain >> some of the adverse reactions reported by parents and patients who >> have >> begun detox with massive doses of probiotics to correct dysbiosis. " >> >> Every night I take my probiotics I have terrible nausea and neruo >> problems . . same when I take MB12 shots . . I truly believe that >> the >> probiotics and Methyl B12 is making my HG problems in my brain worse. >> >> Just wanted to share. The whole article is interesting . . lots of >> us >> already know this, but found it a nice review of HG. >> >> Best wishes, Sue T >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Thanks , BUT, lots of us cannot tolerate Glutathione . . . so I use the chlorella to mop up the GUT when microbes are destroyed by other means and when probiotics methylate the HG . . Remember . . .the CBS+ people usually cannot handle the glutathione including myself . . causes huge yeast issues, too for some. . . it's a bit of a catch-22. . . very fine balancing act which is different for most of us. It has really been trial and error with me and following docs advice many times has been very dangerous for me . there has been a lot of ups and downs including wrong advice often. At this point I am combining lots of Yasko(my own personal version) and going after my Babesia WA-1 and feeling pretty darn good . . I must say. Methyl B12 shots were a disaster for me causing lots of neuro symptoms for over a year . . once I stopped and went to hydroxy I am feeling SO much better .Back to walking a lot and lifting weights again . . tolerating it. Thyroid and adrenal support has helped a lot, too. Best wishes, Sue T davidhall2020 <david-hall@...> wrote: BUT, chlorella is a notorious failure in this respect. It's probably good at gut pathway mopping up of HG, but deep tissue stuff like the brain as happens in many with CFS, no. The good news is it is glutathione's job to conjugate and remove HG from the body after it has been grabbed or chelated from tissue. Sufficient levels of glutathione prevent troublesome redistribution of chelated mercury and bind it out of the body. I've done aggressive chelation with high dose DMPS and had no problems because my glutathione levels I had raised before starting that therapy. <morabshadow@...> wrote: > > Yes . . . Methylating the mercury helps pull it from the tissues but it can also redistribute it at the same time especially the fatty brain . . you need something like chlorella to help absorb the HG and hopefully bind and pull it out through the stools..Some people may try RLA or ALA if they do not have issues with the CBS+ snp. > Sue T > > kdrbrill <kdrbrill@...> wrote: > This will sound bizarre, but does methylating the mercury help remove it from the tissues, > and eventually the body? And if so, could perhaps this be the reason you've had such > strong reactions from your probiotics? > > ??? > > Dan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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