Re: Reverse-therapy - not that i agree with this .

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Hmm, pretty offensive stuff!

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Well, I don't think following his 10 things would cure a single soul, but SOME

of it makes sense in terms of greater comfort.

Adrienne

Re: Reverse-therapy - not that i agree with this

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Hmm, pretty offensive stuff!

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Ditto,

Rosie

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not that i agree with it either.

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When will these psuedo psychologists and NLP practitioners come to the

simple understanding that it is common sense that those of us with CFS

have had to develop many coping strategies and psychological

mechanisms for dealing with CFS. We have all faced the loss of hopes

and expectations, careers, relationships, etc. etc., as a result of

having CFS. There is a perfectly normal adaptation process that goes

with chronic, debilitating, progressive disease, not just CFS but all

chronic diseases have this characteristic. Coping with 'incurable'

disease can be devastating and we all are knocked down by it at some

time or another, at the very least it gets depressing on our bad days.

But any idiot can see that the psychological issues that arise within

the context of chronic disease is not the cause of the disease. My

sister died from breast cancer and in the last phases of her life she

suffered from extreme fear reactions and panic attacks, what fool

would say the panic attacks were the cause of her disease. Yet

charlatans of all types come forward with the idea that the cause of

CFS is the reactions we have to our disease. Most of them are only

trying to sell something, ignore it. If you are having difficulty

dealing with CFS then please contact someone who can destinguish

between CFS and psychological reactions. There are many trying to cash

in on the desperation that many with CFS feel, try to avoid it, it is

a loss of money, plus it puts you in the wrong mental state to really

deal with the hard facts of having CFS. Developing the mentality that

you are to blame for your disease simply becuase of wrong thinking is

not intelligent and goes against everything known about CFS. Liz

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Extremely well put, and a joy to read!

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> When will these psuedo psychologists and NLP practitioners come to

the

> simple understanding that it is common sense that those of us with

CFS

> have had to develop many coping strategies and psychological

> mechanisms for dealing with CFS. We have all faced the loss of hopes

> and expectations, careers, relationships, etc. etc., as a result of

> having CFS. There is a perfectly normal adaptation process that goes

> with chronic, debilitating, progressive disease, not just CFS but

all

> chronic diseases have this characteristic. Coping with 'incurable'

> disease can be devastating and we all are knocked down by it at some

> time or another, at the very least it gets depressing on our bad

days.

> But any idiot can see that the psychological issues that arise

within

> the context of chronic disease is not the cause of the disease. My

> sister died from breast cancer and in the last phases of her life

she

> suffered from extreme fear reactions and panic attacks, what fool

> would say the panic attacks were the cause of her disease. Yet

> charlatans of all types come forward with the idea that the cause of

> CFS is the reactions we have to our disease. Most of them are only

> trying to sell something, ignore it. If you are having difficulty

> dealing with CFS then please contact someone who can destinguish

> between CFS and psychological reactions. There are many trying to

cash

> in on the desperation that many with CFS feel, try to avoid it, it

is

> a loss of money, plus it puts you in the wrong mental state to

really

> deal with the hard facts of having CFS. Developing the mentality

that

> you are to blame for your disease simply becuase of wrong thinking

is

> not intelligent and goes against everything known about CFS. Liz

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To think about it logically; if you have measured problems with NK cells,

ATP levels, ANA levels, de-myelination in the brain/ spinal cord, or all of

the other myriad physical SIGNS that have been established as being part of

the ME picture, then thinking about it differently isn't going to make one

happ'orth of difference. If you feel better with this sort of therapy then

a diagnosis of ME in the first place MUST have been wrong.

Rosie

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[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Liz A Hall

Sent: 08 May 2007 20:34

Subject: Re: Reverse-therapy - not that i agree with

this .

When will these psuedo psychologists and NLP practitioners come to the

simple understanding that it is common sense that those of us with CFS

have had to develop many coping strategies and psychological

mechanisms for dealing with CFS. We have all faced the loss of hopes

and expectations, careers, relationships, etc. etc., as a result of

having CFS. There is a perfectly normal adaptation process that goes

with chronic, debilitating, progressive disease, not just CFS but all

chronic diseases have this characteristic. Coping with 'incurable'

disease can be devastating and we all are knocked down by it at some

time or another, at the very least it gets depressing on our bad days.

But any idiot can see that the psychological issues that arise within

the context of chronic disease is not the cause of the disease. My

sister died from breast cancer and in the last phases of her life she

suffered from extreme fear reactions and panic attacks, what fool

would say the panic attacks were the cause of her disease. Yet

charlatans of all types come forward with the idea that the cause of

CFS is the reactions we have to our disease. Most of them are only

trying to sell something, ignore it. If you are having difficulty

dealing with CFS then please contact someone who can destinguish

between CFS and psychological reactions. There are many trying to cash

in on the desperation that many with CFS feel, try to avoid it, it is

a loss of money, plus it puts you in the wrong mental state to really

deal with the hard facts of having CFS. Developing the mentality that

you are to blame for your disease simply becuase of wrong thinking is

not intelligent and goes against everything known about CFS. Liz

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--- In , " Liz A Hall "

This appears to be just another " snake oil " salesman yet again blaming

the illness on mental disorder...

" Essentially the treatment works by getting to the heart of the problem

or the emotional and psychological reasons behind the symptoms of

illnesses such as ME, depression and anxiety. "

I just wish he would turn up on my doorstep I would find just enough

energy to #*($(@!_+$**#@!:*# his *#*@. The only reason that I ever get

depressed is by reading this sort of stuff all the time.

S