Re: a child died from measles in canada

[Guest guest]

The thing is, you don't know. You don't know his diet. You don't know if the

parents had him on other medications. You don't know if it is even a true

account. You don't know if he had any underlying conditions that may have

contributed to his death.

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

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From: " Sara " <nurturinghome@...>

In another group a nurse working in university hospital HARTFORD

HOSPITAL reported a 12 year old child was brought to the emergency

room he had high fever 104.5. he had measles rash. (but the doctors

never saw it, it was the first time they saw it) he started to

convulse, and the doctors tried to get him to breath.

The mother claimed her child was fully unvaccinated. His body systems

shut down due to infection shock. The doctors tried to revive him 5

hours. In the end the child died.

I wonder, why did he die? Could this death prevented?? Do vaccines

help after all?

[Guest guest]

>His body systems

shut down due to infection shock. The doctors tried to revive him 5

hours. In the end the child died.

This poor child did not have enough power and strength in his life force to

overcome the measles if that, in fact, was what his body was trying to process.

I think it is safe to say he did have underlying issues that put him in grave

danger at the time of this infection.

Anita

Sara <nurturinghome@...> wrote:

In another group a nurse working in university hospital HARTFORD

HOSPITAL reported a 12 year old child was brought to the emergency

room he had high fever 104.5. he had measles rash. (but the doctors

never saw it, it was the first time they saw it) he started to

convulse, and the doctors tried to get him to breath.

The mother claimed her child was fully unvaccinated. His body systems

shut down due to infection shock. The doctors tried to revive him 5

hours. In the end the child died.

I wonder, why did he die? Could this death prevented?? Do vaccines

help after all?

[Guest guest]

A child of similar age died in England a few weeks ago from measles. He was

part of a travelling community and had underlying lung issues which gave him

no resistance and no strength to overcome it. I believe he had medication

issues too.

You just don't know. Nobody ever said measles couldn't kill - but it's

usually the complications of measles that kill. And complications are

something that can never be predicted. It happens - it's tragic. Doesn't

mean that it justifies assaulting and damaging other children by poisoning

them.

Sue

p.s. sorry - have changed preferences but can't get my brain round snipping

these damned mails.

Re: a child died from measles in canada

>His body systems

shut down due to infection shock. The doctors tried to revive him 5

hours. In the end the child died.

This poor child did not have enough power and strength in his life force

to overcome the measles if that, in fact, was what his body was trying to

process. I think it is safe to say he did have underlying issues that put

him in grave danger at the time of this infection.

Anita

Sara <nurturinghome@...> wrote:

In another group a nurse working in university hospital HARTFORD

HOSPITAL reported a 12 year old child was brought to the emergency

room he had high fever 104.5. he had measles rash. (but the doctors

never saw it, it was the first time they saw it) he started to

convulse, and the doctors tried to get him to breath.

The mother claimed her child was fully unvaccinated. His body systems

shut down due to infection shock. The doctors tried to revive him 5

hours. In the end the child died.

I wonder, why did he die? Could this death prevented?? Do vaccines

help after all?

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I totally agree. We've never said on this group that there is no danger from

illness or that there are never complications. But I think most people on here

would agree that the risks of complications from the mandated vaccines far

outweigh the rare complications we hear about from the actual disease.

Interestingly enough, I was listening to NPR here in the States at the time

they broadcast their BBC news. There was a segment about how driving (or riding

in a car) in most third world countries is far more dangerous than disease.

I'll try to see if I can find a sound bite on their web site to share.

Sheri B.

mum2mishka <mum2mishka@...> wrote:

A child of similar age died in England a few weeks ago from measles.

He was

part of a travelling community and had underlying lung issues which gave him

no resistance and no strength to overcome it. I believe he had medication

issues too.

You just don't know. Nobody ever said measles couldn't kill - but it's

usually the complications of measles that kill. And complications are

something that can never be predicted. It happens - it's tragic. Doesn't

mean that it justifies assaulting and damaging other children by poisoning

them.

Sue

p.s. sorry - have changed preferences but can't get my brain round snipping

these damned mails.

Re: a child died from measles in canada

>His body systems

shut down due to infection shock. The doctors tried to revive him 5

hours. In the end the child died.

This poor child did not have enough power and strength in his life force

to overcome the measles if that, in fact, was what his body was trying to

process. I think it is safe to say he did have underlying issues that put

him in grave danger at the time of this infection.

Anita

Sara <nurturinghome@...> wrote:

In another group a nurse working in university hospital HARTFORD

HOSPITAL reported a 12 year old child was brought to the emergency

room he had high fever 104.5. he had measles rash. (but the doctors

never saw it, it was the first time they saw it) he started to

convulse, and the doctors tried to get him to breath.

The mother claimed her child was fully unvaccinated. His body systems

shut down due to infection shock. The doctors tried to revive him 5

hours. In the end the child died.

I wonder, why did he die? Could this death prevented?? Do vaccines

help after all?

[Guest guest]

I used the " driving in a car risk " thing when I told my ped why we

didn't want to vax. He was going on about the risks of the diseases,

blah, blah, blah. And, I said there is a great chance that I could

have an accident everytime I go somewhere in the car, but I still

drive. They don't ban driving?!?!

>

> Sue,

>

> I totally agree. We've never said on this group that there is no

danger from illness or that there are never complications. But I

think most people on here would agree that the risks of complications

from the mandated vaccines far outweigh the rare complications we

hear about from the actual disease.

>

> Interestingly enough, I was listening to NPR here in the States

at the time they broadcast their BBC news. There was a segment about

how driving (or riding in a car) in most third world countries is far

more dangerous than disease. I'll try to see if I can find a sound

bite on their web site to share.

>

> Sheri B.

>

[Guest guest]

that nurse I 'know' her from other group. I asked her if the child had

any underlying health issues and how did the mother try to treat him

before bringing him to emergency room. I didn't get answer for these

questions.

[Guest guest]

I did have measles too but I was 18 months too, arguably a difficult age too to

get it, as ususually children get it at an older age and this is when their

bodies can cope with it much better and there rarely are complications.

I have done some investigations into my own case and found out that my younger

sister was born around the time I got measles and that she had received the

measles vaccine plus I had been vaccinated with other vaccines not long before I

became ill (I have got my original vaccination records).

My mother only breasatfed me for 2 weeks. The maesles went into my lungs and

gave me pneumonia. This resulted in me getting lots and lots of penicilin, I

still remember the injections in both my thighs, every single day for a very

long time. My mum had to carry me to the nurse as my legs were too sore to walk

from all the punctures in my thighs... I get upset even thinking about this.

Anyway, I was four and had been in and out of hospital for 3 years ( I still

remember the noise of the ambulance to come and pick me up when I couldn't

breathe) and eventually my parents decided (on the doctors advice) to take my

tonsils out.

They did so, with no anesathetic, my dad and a nurse were holding my legs and

arms whilst this doctor was cutting my tonsils out, I was covered in blood. They

put a rubber apron on me and I was screaming my head off.

This was of course very traumatic for me and could all have been avoided NOT by

a vaccine but by breastfeeding (I am not blaming my mum, but the culture at the

time and the lack of support) and by proper managent and NO antibiotics.

The antibiotics discoulored my teeth ( to this day I have discoulored teeth...)

and gave me vaginal thrush plus candida and made me look bloated and fat so that

my friends made fun of me.

So, this is my long story about measles. When a child dies of Measles, you need

to ask a lot of questions. This 12 year old child should have gotten the measles

at a much earlier age, when the body is more likely to cope with it. WHY did he

not get them? Because it is no longer around in enough numbers for children to

get at that appropriate age as they all get the vaccine.

The same goes for Rubella, children don't naturally get it any more and then

girls are not natuarally immune any more when they reach child bearing age and

get the vaccine before becoming pregnant and we all know what this can do to a

developing foetus. There is sooo much that you don't get told when a child dies

from meases. You really need to look very deeply to get all the answers. And no,

vaccines are NEVER the answer!!!

In a way I am glad I got the Measles as it made me strong and prevented me from

developing allergies.

I am very healthy now except candida, which is hard to get rid off for me, but I

blame myself as well for eating too much bread...

I am glad I can share my story with you, it is personal but I think it helps to

know some personal stories to learn more about this very important issue.

Love to you all,

Ingrid

[Guest guest]

if a child gets it at age 12,what can be done to protect from

complications?

[Guest guest]

liver cleanse and 'zapper' can get rid of candida

[Guest guest]

ingrid and Olga, isn't it abusive? why do 'they' do this to children?!

it enraged and shocked me to read this so much until I couldn't

respond and symphatize with you.

[Guest guest]

>

> Yes, that's what Sheri N. has mentioned, too (the Vit A and of course

> homeopathy).

>

> Kay

the nurse replied saying the mother took her sick child to 2 differnt

homeopaths in the week he was sick. they said his high fever is 'good'

for him which shows his body is fighting against the disease. So from

her story it seemingly the homeopaths didn't help her child. Again I

don't know if they were classical homeopaths.. still not enough info!

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,and others,

thank you very much for you kind words with regards to my tonsils

operation and measles.

I know about all the candida treatments but I am plain lazy at times

to do them. At least I eat plenty of organic veg and non sugary/yeasty

foods.

Love,

Ingrid