Re: General vax question (was Info on New Cervical Vaccine)

[Guest guest]

Absolutely! There is no safe vaccine for anyone. I had a reaction to my

last tetanus booster about 8 years ago. I had severe pain in every joint in

my body for months. This was before I knew about the dangers of vaccines.

My MD at the time could find no reason for the pain. I have since learned

that is a side effect of that vaccine.

There are many many instances of adults being harmed by the tetanus booster,

MMR, Hep B vax, etc.

NO one is safe from the game of Vaccine Russian Roulette.

Check out this link: Vaccine Victim Testimonies

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/testimonies21.html Many are adults and teens.

Kay

General vax question (was Info on New Cervical

Vaccine)

>I have a general vax question: is it equally dangerous to get

> vaccinated as an adult? For some reason, I had been thinking that it

> was most dangerous or only dangerous in early childhood, when the

> central nervous system and immune systems are developing. -Angie

>

[Guest guest]

Angie,

This is purely my opinion and not based on anything scientific, but I would

say that it is still dangerous to get vaccines as an adult. Kay and others on

here can attest to bad reactions to shots.

Obviously a small child's immune system is still developing, so that is an

even worse time to administer a vaccine, but toxins are still toxins and just

because we're " big " doesn't make them less poisonous. They are more toxic in a

small child's body simply because they have less body mass to handle the load.

Again, just my speculation and reasoning.

Sheri B.

Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote:

I have a general vax question: is it equally dangerous to get

vaccinated as an adult? For some reason, I had been thinking that it

was most dangerous or only dangerous in early childhood, when the

central nervous system and immune systems are developing. -Angie

On Friday, June 9, 2006, at 05:02 PM, Kay wrote:

> It is mind boggling how so many are blinded by the true harm of these

> vaccines. Someone actually posted over there that she hoped they come

> up

> with a vaccine for EVERY type of cancer?!

>

> I posted there, and it was completely ignored. They've jumped on the

> morality bandwagon there and are completely ignoring the health dangers

> associated with another vaccine!

>

> I brought up the question as to why so many are getting cancer these

> days,

> and vaccines aren't the answer! Instead of people being responsible

> for a

> healthy lifestyle, we've become a people sold on the idea that the

> only way

> to health is through the use of shots and pills! It's much easier to do

> that than try to eat right, exercise, etc.

>

> When people eat junk, drink everything but clean water, consume drugs,

> drink

> too much alcohol, smoke, have promiscuous sex, etc. why are they

> surprised

> when they are diagnosed with cancer??

>

> And why are they surprised that childhood cancers are increasing when

> the

> number of vaccines children get keeps climbing higher and higher?!

>

> So say this new vaccine diminishes some cervical cancer numbers (and

> it's

> all a numbers game anyway.... the numbers WILL support what they're

> wanting

> to prove)... these women and their daughters may not be diagnosed with

> cervical cancer in the years to come, but what about other types of

> cancer

> or other chronic illnesses from the toxins in the vaccine?? People

> don't

> look at that though.

>

> I included in my post there links to Sheri's website and some of the

> others

> ie NVIC, ThinkTwice, Whale.to etc. If our comments get ONE woman to

> open

> her eyes and realize the absurdity of another vaccine, it will be

> worth it.

>

> Kay

>

> Re: Info on New Cervical Vaccine

>

> > This excerpt makes me think of this vax like the flu vax...what good

> is it

> > really? GEEZ! Sad to know many women will run out and get this vax

> > without

> > educating themselves...then since no symptoms exist they will assume

> they

> > didn't get HPV because they got vaxed. And just cuz they get vaxed

> > against

> > HPV, doesn't mean they wont get cervical cancer!

> >

> > * The second concern is that any advantage the vaccine provides in

> > protecting against the four virus types could be offset by infection

> by

> > any

> > of the multiple other types of HPV that the vaccine does not cover,

> > according to the FDA documents.

> >

> > Christy Putnam

>

>

**********

" At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

the ability. " -Ron White

[Guest guest]

With more than 40 cases of Alzheimers (sp?) being diagnosed EVERY day, I'd say

there are vaccine dangers. Yet they line these poor folks up, sick or not, like

clockwork each year to blast them with a flu shot. And that's just ONE of the

devastating problems associated with vaccines. The connections are NEVER made

and the nursing home industry is booming.

Anita

Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote:

I have a general vax question: is it equally dangerous to get

vaccinated as an adult? For some reason, I had been thinking that it

was most dangerous or only dangerous in early childhood, when the

central nervous system and immune systems are developing. -Angie

On Friday, June 9, 2006, at 05:02 PM, Kay wrote:

> It is mind boggling how so many are blinded by the true harm of these

> vaccines. Someone actually posted over there that she hoped they come

> up

> with a vaccine for EVERY type of cancer?!

>

> I posted there, and it was completely ignored. They've jumped on the

> morality bandwagon there and are completely ignoring the health dangers

> associated with another vaccine!

>

> I brought up the question as to why so many are getting cancer these

> days,

> and vaccines aren't the answer! Instead of people being responsible

> for a

> healthy lifestyle, we've become a people sold on the idea that the

> only way

> to health is through the use of shots and pills! It's much easier to do

> that than try to eat right, exercise, etc.

>

> When people eat junk, drink everything but clean water, consume drugs,

> drink

> too much alcohol, smoke, have promiscuous sex, etc. why are they

> surprised

> when they are diagnosed with cancer??

>

> And why are they surprised that childhood cancers are increasing when

> the

> number of vaccines children get keeps climbing higher and higher?!

>

> So say this new vaccine diminishes some cervical cancer numbers (and

> it's

> all a numbers game anyway.... the numbers WILL support what they're

> wanting

> to prove)... these women and their daughters may not be diagnosed with

> cervical cancer in the years to come, but what about other types of

> cancer

> or other chronic illnesses from the toxins in the vaccine?? People

> don't

> look at that though.

>

> I included in my post there links to Sheri's website and some of the

> others

> ie NVIC, ThinkTwice, Whale.to etc. If our comments get ONE woman to

> open

> her eyes and realize the absurdity of another vaccine, it will be

> worth it.

>

> Kay

>

> Re: Info on New Cervical Vaccine

>

> > This excerpt makes me think of this vax like the flu vax...what good

> is it

> > really? GEEZ! Sad to know many women will run out and get this vax

> > without

> > educating themselves...then since no symptoms exist they will assume

> they

> > didn't get HPV because they got vaxed. And just cuz they get vaxed

> > against

> > HPV, doesn't mean they wont get cervical cancer!

> >

> > * The second concern is that any advantage the vaccine provides in

> > protecting against the four virus types could be offset by infection

> by

> > any

> > of the multiple other types of HPV that the vaccine does not cover,

> > according to the FDA documents.

> >

> > Christy Putnam

>

>

**********

" At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

the ability. " -Ron White

[Guest guest]

OK, but you sure don't want to get tetanus either, right? What if you

step on a rusty nail? Who wants lockjaw? I don't know, people. I mean,

vaccines for things like the flu or measles for kids seem obviously

like overkill, able to do more damage than good. But things like

tetanus that are really bad?..... -Angie, still thinking it over

On Friday, June 9, 2006, at 07:36 PM, Kay wrote:

> Absolutely! There is no safe vaccine for anyone. I had a reaction to my

> last tetanus booster about 8 years ago. I had severe pain in every

> joint in

> my body for months. This was before I knew about the dangers of

> vaccines.

> My MD at the time could find no reason for the pain. I have since

> learned

> that is a side effect of that vaccine.

>

> There are many many instances of adults being harmed by the tetanus

> booster,

> MMR, Hep B vax, etc.

>

> NO one is safe from the game of Vaccine Russian Roulette.

>

> Check out this link: Vaccine Victim Testimonies

> http://www.whale.to/vaccine/testimonies21.html Many are adults and

> teens.

>

> Kay

>

> General vax question (was Info on New Cervical

> Vaccine)

>

> >I have a general vax question: is it equally dangerous to get

> > vaccinated as an adult? For some reason, I had been thinking that it

> > was most dangerous or only dangerous in early childhood, when the

> > central nervous system and immune systems are developing. -Angie

> >

>

>

**********

" At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

the ability. " -Ron White

[Guest guest]

I don't know......personally, I avoid situations where I'd be stepping on

rusty nails. My last tetanus booster was when I was 15 and I don't imagine

I'll ever have another. My only shot as an adult was the flu a few years

ago, before I knew better......and that was the ONE year I ended up getting

the flu. (They didn't even make me get Hep B for college, surprisingly!)

-Amy

General vax question (was Info on New Cervical

>> Vaccine)

>>

>> >I have a general vax question: is it equally dangerous to get

>> > vaccinated as an adult? For some reason, I had been thinking that it

>> > was most dangerous or only dangerous in early childhood, when the

>> > central nervous system and immune systems are developing. -Angie

>> >

>>

>>

> **********

> " At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

> the ability. " -Ron White

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're under the mistaken assumption that vaccines actually prevent

infectiona. They don't. Only a healthy immune system can do that. Health

doesn't come from a bottle or a shot.

Read Sheri N's website about tetanus. Tetanus shots do not prevent tetanus.

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm and more here:

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/tetanus.html

Kay

Re: General vax question (was Info on New Cervical

Vaccine)

> OK, but you sure don't want to get tetanus either, right? What if you

> step on a rusty nail? Who wants lockjaw? I don't know, people. I mean,

> vaccines for things like the flu or measles for kids seem obviously

> like overkill, able to do more damage than good. But things like

> tetanus that are really bad?..... -Angie, still thinking it over

>

[Guest guest]

You took the words right out of my mouth, Kay....)

Sue

You're under the mistaken assumption that vaccines actually prevent

infectiona. They don't. Only a healthy immune system can do that. Health

doesn't come from a bottle or a shot.

Read Sheri N's website about tetanus. Tetanus shots do not prevent tetanus.

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm and more here:

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/tetanus.html

Kay

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know how safe the tetanus immune globulin (given after possible

exposure) is compared to a vaccine?

General vax question (was Info on New Cervical

>> Vaccine)

>>

>> >I have a general vax question: is it equally dangerous to get

>> > vaccinated as an adult? For some reason, I had been thinking that it

>> > was most dangerous or only dangerous in early childhood, when the

>> > central nervous system and immune systems are developing. -Angie

>> >

>>

>>

> **********

> " At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

> the ability. " -Ron White

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Getting vaccinated as an adult too has the same effects. Some people

just cannot tolerate the toxins that come with it and maybe the serum

itself. I had a very severe vaccine reaction when I was 18. By the

time you are an adult you are through with the entire retinue of

vaccinations and maybe the next vaccine would just tip the scale.

The tetanus shot contains the same Thimerosal.

It is advisable not to treat the fever and rashes that may appear

after the vaccination. It is the bodies effort to throw out the

toxins. People with psoriasis, eczema, or any other major skin

trouble had better not get vaccinated against eruptive diseases.

Don't get vaccinated if you are ill.

I think we should ask Sheri if we can take a dose of Thuja right away

if we are forcibly vaccinated.

Regards,

Jag.

>

> I have a general vax question: is it equally dangerous to get

> vaccinated as an adult?

[Guest guest]

I doubt that the pooled blood products of many many people is 'safe' by

any standard really--and if 'they' say it is 'safe', it is probably

simply to mean 'it doesn't kill everyone it is given to within X

minutes'....

pubrel wrote:

>

> Does anyone know how safe the tetanus immune globulin (given after

> possible exposure) is compared to a vaccine?

>

> General vax question (was Info on New Cervical

> >> Vaccine)

> >>

> >> >I have a general vax question: is it equally dangerous to get

> >> > vaccinated as an adult? For some reason, I had been thinking that it

> >> > was most dangerous or only dangerous in early childhood, when the

> >> > central nervous system and immune systems are developing. -Angie

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> > **********

> > " At that point, I had the right to remain silent... but I didn't have

> > the ability. " -Ron White

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Not Sheri, but I know she has mentioned on numerous occasions that taking

Thuja after a vaccination is dangerous. IF the person's total symptom

picture eventually points to Thuja, absolutely, but you have to wait for

symptoms to appear before treating homeopathically. But not everyone is

going to exhibit Thuja symptoms.

Here is a quote from Sheri from a post here from message # 92444 when

someone had posed this very same question about giving Thuja after a

vaccine:

" This is ABSOLUTELY not true. There is no guarantee. If it were, we all

would be doing it for every vaccine and I wouldn't need to be here, day in

and day out. "

And this from message #65137 once again about using Thuja in a mechanical

way for warts:

" NOOOOOOOOOO

I know a lot of people think this but this is NOT how you use homeopathy

Thuja is just one remedy that may be the one. You have to look at the

whole symptom picture as this is a sign of a miasmatic disturbance

(difficult to explain). You could suppress the wart if it is not the right

remedy. When you stop a symptom or burn it off or cut it off, you are

stopping the body's way of dissipating a disturbance and then it has to

find another way.

Thuja may or may not be the one and its an example of someone who only

knows a little about homeopathy (your ped)

not really having a clue.

It may have been the right remedy for your daughter constitutionally or it

may have suppressed it.

Sorry to sound so harsh, but you just can't use one remedy for one

condition in chronic situations.

It just doesn't work that way.

Wish it did, but homepathy looks at the whole symptom picture and finds the

one substance that would produce the same set of symptoms that you are

experiencing, in a healthy person.

Thuja is often the remedy, but dangerous to be using without knowing for

sure "

Sheri

I hope that helps answer your question.

Kay

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Vaccine)

>> I think we should ask Sheri if we can take a dose of Thuja right away

> if we are forcibly vaccinated.

>

> Regards,

> Jag.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Kay.

Love,

Jag.

>

> Not Sheri, but I know she has mentioned on numerous occasions that

taking

> Thuja after a vaccination is dangerous.