Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Anita, I thought SSPE was almost always fatal....? Is Dr Carley saying that autism is a milder presentation of SSPE - or have I got it wrong about the fatality of SSPE? And is she also saying that SSPE *only* occurs in children who have received the measles vax? Sorry if I am misunderstanding here.... Sue > > > I shared this article with Dr. Carley. With her permission, here > is her reply: > > > > It is so frustrating for me to read this, as my response to the > CDC proves from the medical books themselves that autism IS > subacute sclerosing panencephalitis from the measles vaccine. > > Dr C > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_a > rticle_id= > 388051 & in_page_id=1770 & ct=5 > > Mail on Sunday 28 May 2006 > > Scientists fear MMR link to autism > > 09:52am 28th May 2006 > > Comments Reader comments (0) > New American research shows that there could be a link between the > controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in > children. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Sue, I asked your question and this was what I got: My dear Anita, AUTISM IS SSPE. As far as SIDS, most cases of shaken baby syndrome, learning disabilities, ADD/ADHD, Guillan Barre, Tourettes, Lou Gehrig's disease, etc.; the medical books confirm these are all DEMYELINATING DISEASES, as proven in my CDC response. Both the measles vaccine & petussis vaccine cause demyelination. If your list members would read my CDC response, they would GET IT. Dr C mum2mishka <mum2mishka@...> wrote: Anita, I thought SSPE was almost always fatal....? Is Dr Carley saying that autism is a milder presentation of SSPE - or have I got it wrong about the fatality of SSPE? And is she also saying that SSPE *only* occurs in children who have received the measles vax? Sorry if I am misunderstanding here.... Sue > > > I shared this article with Dr. Carley. With her permission, here > is her reply: > > > > It is so frustrating for me to read this, as my response to the > CDC proves from the medical books themselves that autism IS > subacute sclerosing panencephalitis from the measles vaccine. > > Dr C > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_a > rticle_id= > 388051 & in_page_id=1770 & ct=5 > > Mail on Sunday 28 May 2006 > > Scientists fear MMR link to autism > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hi Anita, I have to put my two cents in here :-) Whilst I believe that there is evidence of demyelination in many cases of autism (and other disorders too), it is simplistic to think that a disorder with such a broad range of symptoms including those in the gut (which are every bit as important as those in the brain since a huge percentage of our central nervous system and immune system resides there), could have one single cause - demyelination of the nerves in the brain. Autism is a syndrome - it is multi-faceted and has many different symptom pictures and many different causes and treatments. You could repair the myelin sheath and still have children who are autistic because their gut is unhealed or because the blood-brain barrier has been pierced by vaccine viruses and bacteria or by heavy metals - all of which are capable of doing that - allowing whole proteins to enter via the bloodstream. Yes, autistic children are physically ill - not mentally ill as they were thought of for way too many years. But SSPE is not the cause of all autism any more than leaky gut, encepalitis or food allergies are the cause. Thanks, Meryl _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of mum2mishka Sent: Friday, 2 June 2006 12:15 AM Vaccinations Subject: RE: RE: Scientists Fear MMR Link to Autism Anita, I thought SSPE was almost always fatal....? Is Dr Carley saying that autism is a milder presentation of SSPE - or have I got it wrong about the fatality of SSPE? And is she also saying that SSPE *only* occurs in children who have received the measles vax? Sorry if I am misunderstanding here.... Sue > > > I shared this article with Dr. Carley. With her permission, here > is her reply: > > > > It is so frustrating for me to read this, as my response to the > CDC proves from the medical books themselves that autism IS > subacute sclerosing panencephalitis from the measles vaccine. > > Dr C > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_a > rticle_id= > 388051 & in_page_id=1770 & ct=5 > > Mail on Sunday 28 May 2006 > > Scientists fear MMR link to autism > > 09:52am 28th May 2006 > > Comments Reader comments (0) > New American research shows that there could be a link between the > controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in > children. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hi Meryl, I don't think there is one cause for autism either; never have. My son is an unvaccinated child with autism which has left me questioning so much. Dr.Carley has helped heal him twice; once from chronic diarrhea and another time from badly swollen adenoids that would have been cut out by the allopaths for sure. I greatly value her opinion, but do not always agree. For this reason, my son is no longer under her care, but we have remained friends. I don't doubt she is right about the cause of autism for at least part of the autistic population. Even though I believe the majority of autism is caused by varying degrees of encephaltis resulting from vaccinations, I think there are other causes to consider. May I share your opinion with her; annonymously if you prefer. You two have worked together before, haven't you? Or maybe she gave credit to you for your work and information as I know have seen your name appear somewhere while reading some of her material. Thank you, Anita Meryl Dorey <meryl@...> wrote: Hi Anita, I have to put my two cents in here :-) Whilst I believe that there is evidence of demyelination in many cases of autism (and other disorders too), it is simplistic to think that a disorder with such a broad range of symptoms including those in the gut (which are every bit as important as those in the brain since a huge percentage of our central nervous system and immune system resides there), could have one single cause - demyelination of the nerves in the brain. Autism is a syndrome - it is multi-faceted and has many different symptom pictures and many different causes and treatments. You could repair the myelin sheath and still have children who are autistic because their gut is unhealed or because the blood-brain barrier has been pierced by vaccine viruses and bacteria or by heavy metals - all of which are capable of doing that - allowing whole proteins to enter via the bloodstream. Yes, autistic children are physically ill - not mentally ill as they were thought of for way too many years. But SSPE is not the cause of all autism any more than leaky gut, encepalitis or food allergies are the cause. Thanks, Meryl _____ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hi Anita, Thanks for asking - and yes, you are free to share this with her and leave my name on. :-) We have published one of her articles in our magazine, Informed Voice before and I think she does a wonderful job of getting information out to the wider public about the dangers of vaccination. The fact that she is a medical doctor helps a lot there :-) Anyway, go ahead and share this and I would love to hear her feedback if she approves you sending it. All the best, Meryl _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of Anita Durney Sent: Friday, 2 June 2006 6:46 AM Vaccinations Subject: RE: RE: Scientists Fear MMR Link to Autism Hi Meryl, I don't think there is one cause for autism either; never have. My son is an unvaccinated child with autism which has left me questioning so much. Dr.Carley has helped heal him twice; once from chronic diarrhea and another time from badly swollen adenoids that would have been cut out by the allopaths for sure. I greatly value her opinion, but do not always agree. For this reason, my son is no longer under her care, but we have remained friends. I don't doubt she is right about the cause of autism for at least part of the autistic population. Even though I believe the majority of autism is caused by varying degrees of encephaltis resulting from vaccinations, I think there are other causes to consider. May I share your opinion with her; annonymously if you prefer. You two have worked together before, haven't you? Or maybe she gave credit to you for your work and information as I know have seen your name appear somewhere while reading some of her material. Thank you, Anita <http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=509 & lang=9> Add FUN to your email - CLICK HERE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Oh, she will, Meryl - I just don't know how soon I'll here back from her. I got lucky today. Thanks again, Anita Meryl Dorey <meryl@...> wrote: Hi Anita, Thanks for asking - and yes, you are free to share this with her and leave my name on. :-) We have published one of her articles in our magazine, Informed Voice before and I think she does a wonderful job of getting information out to the wider public about the dangers of vaccination. The fact that she is a medical doctor helps a lot there :-) Anyway, go ahead and share this and I would love to hear her feedback if she approves you sending it. All the best, Meryl __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Thanks Anita - do you have a link for Dr Carley's CDC response? I'm afraid I have so many bookmarked it would take me forever to go through them. I think I must get them organised sometime....( Sue > > Sue, > I asked your question and this was what I got: > > > My dear Anita, > > AUTISM IS SSPE. As far as SIDS, most cases of shaken baby > syndrome, learning disabilities, ADD/ADHD, Guillan Barre, > Tourettes, Lou Gehrig's disease, etc.; the medical books confirm > these are all DEMYELINATING DISEASES, as proven in my CDC > response. Both the measles vaccine & petussis vaccine cause > demyelination. If your list members would read my CDC response, > they would GET IT. > > Dr C > > > mum2mishka <mum2mishka@...> wrote: Anita, I thought SSPE > was almost always fatal....? Is Dr Carley saying that > autism is a milder presentation of SSPE - or have I got it wrong about the > fatality of SSPE? And is she also saying that SSPE *only* occurs in > children who have received the measles vax? > > Sorry if I am misunderstanding here.... > > Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Sadly, i dont know the entire story - but my husband told me that a few years back Dr. Wakefield retracted his statements and publicly announced he was wrong. What happened, and what part of hte story am i missing ? On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Mindy LeFort <decembermoon23@...> wrote: Â a friend of mine posted this study on facebook, and she got LOADS of backlash about how dr. wakefield rigged his findings.. which i didn't originally read the article until now so i never commented but hello this article isn't even about wakefield! oh their other complaint is that it was from 2006 so it was " old " and had been " disproven since then " i wanted to shake the person that said that. i guess they will change their mind when their kid gets sick from their vaccines.On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:57 PM, vaccinefreemommy <apmommy30@...> wrote: Â Wow! I knew this was the truth, but it's great to have another study showing it's true! > > Scientists fear MMR link to autism > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html > > By SALLY BECK, Mail on Sunday > > New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children. > > The study appears to confirm the findings of British doctor Wakefield, who caused a storm in 1998 by suggesting a possible link. > > Now a team from the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in North Carolina are examining 275 children with regressive autism and bowel disease - and of the 82 tested so far, 70 prove positive for the measles virus. -- www.discoverytoyslink.com/mlefortwww.juiceplus.com/+ml76732 mindy-lefort.barefootbooks.comwww.shopmonet.com/rep/store/mindysminerals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 That never happened. There were 13 authors of the original Lancet piece from 1998 - Wakefield was the lead author. They were basically told - retract now and you will be 'saved' - 10 of them did - 3 didn't and those 3 have been 'crucified' by the medical establishment. I am not even a Christian but I can't help but think of Jesus and the 12 apostles - it's almost like that only there was no Judas here - Judas is the GMC and Deer.On 18/04/2010, at 8:54 AM, Duby Litvin wrote: Sadly, i dont know the entire story - but my husband told me that a few years back Dr. Wakefield retracted his statements and publicly announced he was wrong. What happened, and what part of hte story am i missing ? On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Mindy LeFort <decembermoon23gmail> wrote: a friend of mine posted this study on facebook, and she got LOADS of backlash about how dr. wakefield rigged his findings.. which i didn't originally read the article until now so i never commented but hello this article isn't even about wakefield! oh their other complaint is that it was from 2006 so it was "old" and had been "disproven since then " i wanted to shake the person that said that. i guess they will change their mind when their kid gets sick from their vaccines.On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:57 PM, vaccinefreemommy <apmommy30hotmail> wrote: Wow! I knew this was the truth, but it's great to have another study showing it's true! > > Scientists fear MMR link to autism > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html > > By SALLY BECK, Mail on Sunday > > New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children. > > The study appears to confirm the findings of British doctor Wakefield, who caused a storm in 1998 by suggesting a possible link. > > Now a team from the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in North Carolina are examining 275 children with regressive autism and bowel disease - and of the 82 tested so far, 70 prove positive for the measles virus. -- www.discoverytoyslink.com/mlefortwww.juiceplus.com/+ml76732 mindy-lefort.barefootbooks.comwww.shopmonet.com/rep/store/mindysminerals Meryl Doreymeryl@...Australian Vaccination NetworkLiving Wisdom magazineInvestigate before you vaccinate02 6687 1699 - Work02 6687 2032 - FAXWHAT PART OF "PRO INFORMATION - PRO CHOICE" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?The AVN is a Charity Authority Holder (CFN11694).We rely on the help and support of our members and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and without prejudice.Please consider helping us by subscribing to Living Wisdom and joining as an AVN member. Go to http://www.avn.org.au to subscribeWe also sell books and information packs. Go to http://avn.org.au/catalog/ for more details.The information contained in this email communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, or act in reliance on this information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us by return email and destroy any electronic or paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this email communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of this organisation or its representative. The Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) and Living Wisdom magazine do not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. The AVN and Living Wisdom magazine are not responsible for the results of any actions taken on the basis of information in this email, nor for any error or omission and they expressly disclaim all and any liability to any person in respect of anything done or omitted to be done by any person in whole or partial reliance upon the whole or any part of the contents of this email. If medical advice is required the services of a competent professional should be sought. Remember - vaccination is not compulsory in Australia - the decision about whether to vaccinate is yours and yours alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 Aha,so just to clarify - basically Wakefield retracted his statements so the medical field wont crucify his career ? Can you tell me some more information - or is there a place that i can read more about this ? (my husband still has some small reservations about the anti vaccinations situation - and i like to have answers for him :) Thanks !!! deb On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Meryl Dorey <meryl@...> wrote:  That never happened. There were 13 authors of the original Lancet piece from 1998 - Wakefield was the lead author. They were basically told - retract now and you will be 'saved' - 10 of them did - 3 didn't and those 3 have been 'crucified' by the medical establishment. I am not even a Christian but I can't help but think of Jesus and the 12 apostles - it's almost like that only there was no Judas here - Judas is the GMC and Deer. On 18/04/2010, at 8:54 AM, Duby Litvin wrote:  Sadly, i dont know the entire story - but my husband told me that a few years back Dr. Wakefield retracted his statements and publicly announced he was wrong. What happened, and what part of hte story am i missing ? On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Mindy LeFort <decembermoon23@...> wrote:  a friend of mine posted this study on facebook, and she got LOADS of backlash about how dr. wakefield rigged his findings.. which i didn't originally read the article until now so i never commented but hello this article isn't even about wakefield! oh their other complaint is that it was from 2006 so it was " old " and had been " disproven since then " i wanted to shake the person that said that. i guess they will change their mind when their kid gets sick from their vaccines.On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:57 PM, vaccinefreemommy <apmommy30@...> wrote:  Wow! I knew this was the truth, but it's great to have another study showing it's true! > > Scientists fear MMR link to autism > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html > > By SALLY BECK, Mail on Sunday > > New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children. > > The study appears to confirm the findings of British doctor Wakefield, who caused a storm in 1998 by suggesting a possible link. > > Now a team from the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in North Carolina are examining 275 children with regressive autism and bowel disease - and of the 82 tested so far, 70 prove positive for the measles virus. -- www.discoverytoyslink.com/mlefortwww.juiceplus.com/+ml76732 mindy-lefort.barefootbooks.comwww.shopmonet.com/rep/store/mindysminerals Meryl Doreymeryl@...Australian Vaccination NetworkLiving Wisdom magazineInvestigate before you vaccinate 02 6687 1699 - Work02 6687 2032 - FAXWHAT PART OF " PRO INFORMATION - PRO CHOICE " DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? The AVN is a Charity Authority Holder (CFN11694).We rely on the help and support of our members and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and without prejudice. Please consider helping us by subscribing to Living Wisdom and joining as an AVN member. Go to http://www.avn.org.au to subscribe We also sell books and information packs. Go to http://avn.org.au/catalog/ for more details. The information contained in this email communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, or act in reliance on this  information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please  notify us by return email and destroy any electronic or paper copy of this message.  Any views expressed in this email communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of this organisation or its  representative. The Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) and Living Wisdom magazine do not represent, warrant or guarantee that the  integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free  of errors, virus or interference. The AVN and Living Wisdom magazine are not responsible for the results of any actions taken on the basis of information in this email, nor for any error or omission and they expressly disclaim all and any liability to any person in respect of anything done or omitted to be done by any person in whole or partial reliance upon the whole or any part of the contents of this email. If medical advice is required the services of a competent professional should be sought. Remember - vaccination is not compulsory in Australia - the decision about whether to vaccinate is yours and yours alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 No, sorry for not making that clear - 10 of the authors retracted - Wakefield, Murch and - did not and they were the 3 that were called before the GMC and whose careers have been destroyed.On 18/04/2010, at 10:29 AM, Duby Litvin wrote: Aha,so just to clarify - basically Wakefield retracted his statements so the medical field wont crucify his career ? Can you tell me some more information - or is there a place that i can read more about this ? (my husband still has some small reservations about the anti vaccinations situation - and i like to have answers for him :) Thanks !!! deb On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Meryl Dorey <meryl@....au> wrote: That never happened. There were 13 authors of the original Lancet piece from 1998 - Wakefield was the lead author. They were basically told - retract now and you will be 'saved' - 10 of them did - 3 didn't and those 3 have been 'crucified' by the medical establishment. I am not even a Christian but I can't help but think of Jesus and the 12 apostles - it's almost like that only there was no Judas here - Judas is the GMC and Deer. On 18/04/2010, at 8:54 AM, Duby Litvin wrote: Sadly, i dont know the entire story - but my husband told me that a few years back Dr. Wakefield retracted his statements and publicly announced he was wrong. What happened, and what part of hte story am i missing ? On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Mindy LeFort <decembermoon23gmail> wrote: a friend of mine posted this study on facebook, and she got LOADS of backlash about how dr. wakefield rigged his findings.. which i didn't originally read the article until now so i never commented but hello this article isn't even about wakefield! oh their other complaint is that it was from 2006 so it was "old" and had been "disproven since then " i wanted to shake the person that said that. i guess they will change their mind when their kid gets sick from their vaccines.On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:57 PM, vaccinefreemommy <apmommy30hotmail> wrote: Wow! I knew this was the truth, but it's great to have another study showing it's true! > > Scientists fear MMR link to autism > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html > > By SALLY BECK, Mail on Sunday > > New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children. > > The study appears to confirm the findings of British doctor Wakefield, who caused a storm in 1998 by suggesting a possible link. > > Now a team from the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in North Carolina are examining 275 children with regressive autism and bowel disease - and of the 82 tested so far, 70 prove positive for the measles virus. -- www.discoverytoyslink.com/mlefortwww.juiceplus.com/+ml76732 mindy-lefort.barefootbooks.comwww.shopmonet.com/rep/store/mindysminerals Meryl Doreymeryl@....auAustralian Vaccination NetworkLiving Wisdom magazineInvestigate before you vaccinate 02 6687 1699 - Work02 6687 2032 - FAXWHAT PART OF "PRO INFORMATION - PRO CHOICE" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? The AVN is a Charity Authority Holder (CFN11694).We rely on the help and support of our members and subscribers to continue offering our services freely and without prejudice. Please consider helping us by subscribing to Living Wisdom and joining as an AVN member. Go to http://www.avn.org.au to subscribe We also sell books and information packs. Go to http://avn.org.au/catalog/ for more details. The information contained in this email communication may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, re-transmit, copy, distribute, or act in reliance on this information if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us by return email and destroy any electronic or paper copy of this message. Any views expressed in this email communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of this organisation or its representative. The Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) and Living Wisdom magazine do not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. The AVN and Living Wisdom magazine are not responsible for the results of any actions taken on the basis of information in this email, nor for any error or omission and they expressly disclaim all and any liability to any person in respect of anything done or omitted to be done by any person in whole or partial reliance upon the whole or any part of the contents of this email. If medical advice is required the services of a competent professional should be sought. Remember - vaccination is not compulsory in Australia - the decision about whether to vaccinate is yours and yours alone. 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Any views expressed in this email communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of this organisation or its representative. The Australian Vaccination Network (AVN) and Living Wisdom magazine do not represent, warrant or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus or interference. The AVN and Living Wisdom magazine are not responsible for the results of any actions taken on the basis of information in this email, nor for any error or omission and they expressly disclaim all and any liability to any person in respect of anything done or omitted to be done by any person in whole or partial reliance upon the whole or any part of the contents of this email. If medical advice is required the services of a competent professional should be sought. 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Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 this is not what happened. Some of the researchers on the case study were convinced by the Lancet to retract an interpretation - not an interpretation the researchers put on it, but what the public was interpreting it as. How can anyone retract what the public things. The retraction stated: [40] " We wish to make it clear that in this paper no causal link was established between (the) vaccine and autism, as the data were insufficient. However the possibility of such a link was raised, and consequent events have had major implications for public health. In view of this, we consider now is the appropriate time that we should together formally retract the interpretation placed upon these findings in the paper, according to precedent. " [41] REMINDER.......contrary to how this has been portrayed in the media - the ONLY THING retracted was the interpretation attributed to it but others..............but because everyone is now blocked at every turn when trying to find the truth, trying to do more studies, we may never know until parents continue to demand truth in even larger numbers! Meantime children suffer. Sheri " We wish to make it clear that in this paper no causal link was established between MMR vaccine and autism as the data were insufficient. However, the possibility of such a link was raised and consequent events have had major implications for public health. In view of this, we consider now is the appropriate time that we should together formally retract the interpretation placed upon these findings in the paper, according to precedent.4 " http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol363/iss9411/full/llan.363.9411.editorial_and_review.28945.1 Retraction of an interpretation This statement refers to the Early Report " Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children " ,1 published in The Lancet in 1998. It is made by 10 of the 12 original authors who could be contacted. It should be noted that this statement does not necessarily reflect the views of the other co-authors. The main thrust of this paper1 was the first description of an unexpected intestinal lesion in the children reported. Further evidence has been forthcoming in studies from the Royal Free Centre for Paediatric Gastroenterology and other groups to support and extend these findings.2,3 While much uncertainty remains about the nature of these changes, we believe it important that such work continues, as autistic children can potentially be helped by recognition and treatment of gastrointestinal problems. We wish to make it clear that in this paper no causal link was established between MMR vaccine and autism as the data were insufficient. However, the possibility of such a link was raised and consequent events have had major implications for public health. In view of this, we consider now is the appropriate time that we should together formally retract the interpretation placed upon these findings in the paper, according to precedent.4 We were unable to contact Linnell. *Simon H Murch, , H Casson, Mohsin Malik, Mark Berelowitz, Amar P Dhillon, A Thomson, Alan Valentine, E Davies, A - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Centre for Paediatric Gastronenterology (SHM, MAT, JAW-S); and Departments of Histopathology (AA, APD), Child Psychiatry (MB), and Radiology (AV), Royal Free and University College Medical School, Royal Free Campus, London NW3 2PF, UK; Institute of Child Health, Royal Liverpool Children's Hospital, Liverpool (DHC); Department of Paediatrics, Queen the Queen Mother Hospital, Margate, Kent (MM); and Department of Histopathology and Cytology, Addenbrooke's Hospital, Cambridge, UK (SED) (e-mail:s.murch@...) 1 Wakefield AJ, Murch SH, A, Linnell J, Casson DM, Malik M, Berelowtiz M, Dhillon AP, Thomson MA, Harvey P, Valentine A, Davies SE, - JA. Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children. Lancet 1998; 351: 637-41. [Text] 2 Murch S. MMR and autism: the debate continues. Lancet 2004; 363: 568-69. [PubMed] 3 Horvath K, Perman JA. Autistic disorder and gastrointestinal disease. Curr Opin Pediatr 2002; 14: 583-87. [PubMed] 4 Zhang L, P, He T, Yu W, Ho DD. Retraction of an interpretation. Science 2004; 303: 467. http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/01/a-short-form-faq-about-the-wakefield-gmc-case.html If the Lancet case report did not say MMR vaccine causes autism, what did some of the co-authors partially retract in 2004? Nothing. Some of the original co-authors partially retracted an interpretation despite the fact that it never existed in the case report. The co-author's partial retraction reads, " We wish to make it clear that in this paper no causal link was established between MMR vaccine and autism as the data were insufficient. However, the possibility of such a link was raised and consequent events have had major implications for public health. In view of this, we consider now is the appropriate time that we should together formally retract the interpretation placed upon these findings in the paper, according to precedent. " Again, the original case report itself never interpreted the data as establishing a causal link between MMR and autism, so there was no " causal " interpretation to retract. Also I think info in here too: http://www.autismone.org/content/second-looking-case-dr-andrew-j-wakefield-william-long-mdiv-phd-jd On Second Looking into the Case of Dr. J. Wakefield by Long, MDiv, PhD, JD Sheri At 03:54 PM 4/17/2010, you wrote: Sadly, i dont know the entire story - but my husband told me that a few years back Dr. Wakefield retracted his statements and publicly announced he was wrong. What happened, and what part of hte story am i missing ? 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Guest guest Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 No Wakefield did NOT retract anything early on. You have to follow the whole story. I teach about this in my class and go step by step. It is a lot to follow and keep track of I will now send again several things that will help clear things up for you Sheri At 05:29 PM 4/17/2010, you wrote: Aha, so just to clarify - basically Wakefield retracted his statements so the medical field wont crucify his career ? Can you tell me some more information - or is there a place that i can read more about this ? (my husband still has some small reservations about the anti vaccinations situation - and i like to have answers for him :) Thanks !!! deb On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Meryl Dorey <meryl@...> wrote: That never happened. There were 13 authors of the original Lancet piece from 1998 - Wakefield was the lead author. They were basically told - retract now and you will be 'saved' - 10 of them did - 3 didn't and those 3 have been 'crucified' by the medical establishment. I am not even a Christian but I can't help but think of Jesus and the 12 apostles - it's almost like that only there was no Judas here - Judas is the GMC and Deer. On 18/04/2010, at 8:54 AM, Duby Litvin wrote: Sadly, i dont know the entire story - but my husband told me that a few years back Dr. Wakefield retracted his statements and publicly announced he was wrong. What happened, and what part of hte story am i missing ? On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Mindy LeFort <decembermoon23@... > wrote: a friend of mine posted this study on facebook, and she got LOADS of backlash about how dr. wakefield rigged his findings.. which i didn't originally read the article until now so i never commented but hello this article isn't even about wakefield! oh their other complaint is that it was from 2006 so it was " old " and had been " disproven since then " i wanted to shake the person that said that. i guess they will change their mind when their kid gets sick from their vaccines. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:57 PM, vaccinefreemommy <apmommy30@...> wrote: Wow! I knew this was the truth, but it's great to have another study showing it's true! > > Scientists fear MMR link to autism > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388051/Scientists-fear-MMR-link-autism.html > > By SALLY BECK, Mail on Sunday > > New American research shows that there could be a link between the controversial MMR triple vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children. > > The study appears to confirm the findings of British doctor Wakefield, who caused a storm in 1998 by suggesting a possible link. > > Now a team from the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in North Carolina are examining 275 children with regressive autism and bowel disease - and of the 82 tested so far, 70 prove positive for the measles virus. -- www.discoverytoyslink.com/mlefort www.juiceplus.com/+ml76732 mindy-lefort.barefootbooks.com www.shopmonet.com/rep/store/mindysminerals Meryl Dorey meryl@... 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