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Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Angie - I agree with everything you said below, one question, how do you avoid sippy's for your toddlers? www.kleankanteen.com is designing a stainless steal sippy (with plastic lid of course) soon and that is the only alternative I know of. Any other products you have come across? Jen _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of Totten Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:46 AM Vaccinations Subject: Re: Ca: Oakland Trib's 'body burden' investigation gets scientific credential - EHP article - !!! There's a book called " Green Living " by the authors of E/Environmental Magazine (I believe) that talks about dangers out there and ways to avoid them. Also lists companies in each chapter that supply more environmentally-friendly items. This is in the U.S., since I know this group is international. Some things our family does: no plastic things given to baby to put in mouth. We buy unfinished wood furniture and finish ourselves with beeswax (to avoid bad chemicals in furniture finish). Eat organic. Try to avoid plastic ourselves. Avoid vinyl anything. We use as environmentally friendly cleaning products as possible. -Angie Totten p.s. I'm new here and will be posting some questions soon. So far I have been totally overwhelmed by the sheer number of posts and am having trouble just reading them and figuring out whether I should save them, print them out, research the topic more, etc. On Sunday, May 28, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Sheri B. wrote: > So does anyone have any valid ways we can decrease our kids' exposure > to some of these things? No shots, of course, but what about just > living in this crazy world? Any pointers? > > We try to do non-toxic cleaning but do use standard clothes washing > detgt. and dishwashing powder. > > We never microwave in plastic and try not to use the microwave much > at all (sometimes we just " have " to, but it's much rarer now). > > Any pointers? > Sheri B. > > Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > The newspaper's body burden project is available at > www.insidebayarea.com/bodyburden/ > > Children Show Highest Levels of Polybrominated Diphenyl Ethers (PBDEs) > in > a California Family of Four -- A Case Study Environ Health Perspect: > Fischer D et al. Online 25 May 2006] > http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2006/8554/abstract.html > > * * * * > > `Body burden' investigation gets scientific credential > > FROM STAFF REPORTS > http://www.insidebayarea.com/timesstar/localnews/ci_3869633 > > > The results of this newspaper's investigation that found high levels of > commercial flame retardants in the blood of the two children in a > fairly > typical Bay Area family got an extra endorsement from the scientific > community on Friday. > > The peer-reviewed journal Environmental Health Perspectives, published > by > the National Institute of Health, published a scientific write-up of > the > results online Thursday night. The article concludes children have > higher > levels of flame retardant in their blood and that those levels may be > high > enough to cause harm. > > ``This is a highly significant paper,'' wrote one of the anonymous > reviewers of the paper. ``We have a moral obligation to publish the > unfortunately high concentration in the toddler, (as) that should > prompt > more measurements and, perhaps more importantly, a revisiting of our > regulatory decisions.'' > > The paper details in more scientific terms the basic finding of the > newspapers' investigation that was first published in March 2005: In > tests > of a Berkeley family's blood, hair and urine for a variety of chemical > contaminants - plastics, PCBs, even the chemical precursors to Teflon > and > ScotchGuard - the two young children in many cases had higher levels > than > the parents. > > This was particularly - and, for researchers, alarmingly - true for a > class of flame retardants known as PBDEs, or polybrominated diphenyl > ethers. Used to suppress the ignition of foam, textiles, and certain > plastics, the chemicals have been showing up in blood and breast milk > samples at increasing rates in the United States. Almost everyone in > world > is thought to have some level of contamination, but levels in America > are > 10 > > Advertisement > > to 100 times higher than Europe and Japan. > > But only adults have been tested. This newspaper's investigation was > one > of the first to test children under the age of 5, and their levels were > two to five times higher than the parents. The youngest - Rowan Hammond > Holland - was 18 months old when initially tested, yet scientists > found a > PBDE concentration of almost 700 parts-per-billion in his blood. > > His sister, Mikaela, had nearly 400 ppb. Both parents were at about 100 > ppb, about normal for Californians. Scientists have found evidence of > behavioral and reproductive problems in rats at about 300 ppb. > > ``What we are seeing here is very serious,'' said Ake Bergman, a > co-author > on the study and a professor of environmental chemistry at Stockholm > University in Sweden who helped analyze the family's blood samples, in > an > interview last year. ``If in fact you have exposure the first few years > that is exceeding the parents' this may have - this may have - > implications for brain development.'' > > The scientific paper is available online at www.ehponline.org. The > newspaper project is available at www.insidebayarea.com/bodyburden/ > > * > > The material in this post is distributed without > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest > in receiving the included information for research > and educational purposes.For more information go to: > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html > http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this > email for purposes that go beyond 'fair use', you > must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account > earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm > Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm > Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Would love to know more about them C _____ From: Vaccinations [mailto:Vaccinations ] On Behalf Of Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 6:36 PM Vaccinations Subject: Re: avoiding plastic I don't know about sippies....but we just got some cool water bottles that look like plastic but are made from corn! And they have built in charcoal filters. Re: Ca: Oakland Trib's 'body burden' investigation gets scientific credential - EHP article - !!! There's a book called " Green Living " by the authors of E/Environmental Magazine (I believe) that talks about dangers out there and ways to avoid them. Also lists companies in each chapter that supply more environmentally-friendly items. This is in the U.S., since I know this group is international. Some things our family does: no plastic things given to baby to put in mouth. We buy unfinished wood furniture and finish ourselves with beeswax (to avoid bad chemicals in furniture finish). Eat organic. Try to avoid plastic ourselves. Avoid vinyl anything. We use as environmentally friendly cleaning products as possible. -Angie Totten p.s. I'm new here and will be posting some questions soon. So far I have been totally overwhelmed by the sheer number of posts and am having trouble just reading them and figuring out whether I should save them, print them out, research the topic more, etc. On Sunday, May 28, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Sheri B. wrote: > So does anyone have any valid ways we can decrease our kids' exposure > to some of these things? No shots, of course, but what about just > living in this crazy world? Any pointers? > > We try to do non-toxic cleaning but do use standard clothes washing > detgt. and dishwashing powder. > > We never microwave in plastic and try not to use the microwave much > at all (sometimes we just " have " to, but it's much rarer now). > > Any pointers? > Sheri B. > > Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > The newspaper's body burden project is available at > www.insidebayarea.com/bodyburden/ > > Children Show Highest Levels of Polybrominated Diphenyl Ethers (PBDEs) > in > a California Family of Four -- A Case Study Environ Health Perspect: > Fischer D et al. Online 25 May 2006] > http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2006/8554/abstract.html > > * * * * > > `Body burden' investigation gets scientific credential > > FROM STAFF REPORTS > http://www.insidebayarea.com/timesstar/localnews/ci_3869633 > > > The results of this newspaper's investigation that found high levels of > commercial flame retardants in the blood of the two children in a > fairly > typical Bay Area family got an extra endorsement from the scientific > community on Friday. > > The peer-reviewed journal Environmental Health Perspectives, published > by > the National Institute of Health, published a scientific write-up of > the > results online Thursday night. The article concludes children have > higher > levels of flame retardant in their blood and that those levels may be > high > enough to cause harm. > > ``This is a highly significant paper,'' wrote one of the anonymous > reviewers of the paper. ``We have a moral obligation to publish the > unfortunately high concentration in the toddler, (as) that should > prompt > more measurements and, perhaps more importantly, a revisiting of our > regulatory decisions.'' > > The paper details in more scientific terms the basic finding of the > newspapers' investigation that was first published in March 2005: In > tests > of a Berkeley family's blood, hair and urine for a variety of chemical > contaminants - plastics, PCBs, even the chemical precursors to Teflon > and > ScotchGuard - the two young children in many cases had higher levels > than > the parents. > > This was particularly - and, for researchers, alarmingly - true for a > class of flame retardants known as PBDEs, or polybrominated diphenyl > ethers. Used to suppress the ignition of foam, textiles, and certain > plastics, the chemicals have been showing up in blood and breast milk > samples at increasing rates in the United States. Almost everyone in > world > is thought to have some level of contamination, but levels in America > are > 10 > > Advertisement > > to 100 times higher than Europe and Japan. > > But only adults have been tested. This newspaper's investigation was > one > of the first to test children under the age of 5, and their levels were > two to five times higher than the parents. The youngest - Rowan Hammond > Holland - was 18 months old when initially tested, yet scientists > found a > PBDE concentration of almost 700 parts-per-billion in his blood. > > His sister, Mikaela, had nearly 400 ppb. Both parents were at about 100 > ppb, about normal for Californians. Scientists have found evidence of > behavioral and reproductive problems in rats at about 300 ppb. > > ``What we are seeing here is very serious,'' said Ake Bergman, a > co-author > on the study and a professor of environmental chemistry at Stockholm > University in Sweden who helped analyze the family's blood samples, in > an > interview last year. ``If in fact you have exposure the first few years > that is exceeding the parents' this may have - this may have - > implications for brain development.'' > > The scientific paper is available online at www.ehponline.org. The > newspaper project is available at www.insidebayarea.com/bodyburden/ > > * > > The material in this post is distributed without > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest > in receiving the included information for research > and educational purposes.For more information go to: > http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html > http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this > email for purposes that go beyond 'fair use', you > must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath > Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK > $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account > earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 > (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail > Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm > Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm > Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm > Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=124292 Earth Day Brings New Release of Environmentally-Friendly Better Water Bottle Filter and Corn-Based Bottle ENGLEWOOD, CO -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 04/21/2006 -- This Earth Day, with the care of the planet always at the forefront of their minds, New Wave Enviro Products® introduces their new Better Water Bottle FilterT and Corn-based Bottle. The Better Water Bottle FilterT provides pure, clean drinking water and can be reused up to 90 times. The Corn-based Bottle takes merely 80 days to dethe environment and providing healthy, good-tasting water! A recent report by the Earth Policy Institute found that bottled water requires over 2.7 million tons of plastic annually, taking between 400 and 1,000 years to decompose,(1) a major threat to the environment and a central issue this Earth Day. New Wave Enviro Products'® Corn Bottle (16.9 ounces) is made of the most renewable polymer available -- NatureWorks'® PLA -- through a fermentation process using corn, making it completely recyclable and compostable. In addition to environmental effects of water bottles going to landfills, concerns are also mounting about the health effect of chlorine in public water supplies. " Chlorine is a toxic gas which attacks living cells. Today, chlorine is used to treat municipal water supplies to kill micro-organisms, " explains Lee Archer, President of New Wave Enviro Products®. The Better Water Bottle FilterT and Corn-based Bottle allows the user to effortlessly obtain fresh, good-tasting drinking water while reducing plastic waste at the same time, a true celebration for Earth Day. At under $9.00 for the combination Corn Bottle and Better Water Bottle FilterT, the cost for filtered water is less than 5 cents per 8 ounce glass, making this product wallet-friendly as well as Earth-friendly. This compact 4 " x 1 1/4 " filter also fits any standard water bottle. New Wave Enviro Products® will contribute 3% of the gross profits from the sale of the bottles to Organic Farming Organizations to promote environmentally-friendly farming practices. New Wave Enviro Products® manufactures a line of high-quality, innovative products for chlorine-free living, including water filtration, dispensing and storage devices. For more information or to find the nearest store, please visit www.newwaveenviro.com, mail P.O. Box 4146, Englewood, CO 80155 or contact Amy Mutza at amutza@... or by phone at (805) 969-3744. (1) National Geographic, February 24, 2006. " Bottled Water Isn't Healthier than Tap, Report Reveals. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 This is condensed info from the book " Green Living " by the editors of E/Environmental Magazine: Baby bottles: In 1999, a study from Japan revealed that a chemical known as bisphenol A was leaching out of polycarbonate plastic bottles. Bisphenol A is considered dangerous to babies because it mimics the hormone estrogen, thereby upsetting the delicate hormone balance of developing infants. Steer clear of shiny baby bottles in favor of glass or less shiny plastic. Children's toys: Opt for toys made of wood, cloth, and rubber, not soft pliable plastic, such as that found in inflatable toys, squeeze toys, dolls, or items elsewhere in the home, such as the plastic shower curtain (Angie's note: we bought a polyester shower curtain liner from IKEA to replace our vinyl one). These soft plastics can contain hazardous chemicals called phthalates, which can leach out of the very toys chewed by investigative babies. The FDA concluded that exposure during gestation of a male fetus to one particular phthalate could harm the fetus's testicles. When Greenpeace tested 63 plastic toys for children under 3 yrs., scientists found that almost all contained between 10 and 40 percent of these hazardous softening additives by weight. Angie's note: you can buy non-plastic teethers online, or use frozen bagels (as long as they can't ingest any part of them). -Angie On Sunday, May 28, 2006, at 09:53 PM, Algaveda@... wrote: > what is wrong with plastic? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 :-) Good question. My baby is still only 3 months old so haven't had to deal with sippy cup issues yet. I'll see if the " Green Living " book says anything and report back if it does. The only thing that comes to mind... glass? I've been having trouble breastfeeding (we think it's a big thrush infection and are treating it as such) so I've been pumping and feeding my son out of bottles, and we've only gone with glass and natural (latex) nipples. -Angie On Sunday, May 28, 2006, at 09:17 PM, Jen Allbritton wrote: > Angie - I agree with everything you said below, one question, how do > you > avoid sippy's for your toddlers? www.kleankanteen.com is designing a > stainless steal sippy (with plastic lid of course) soon and that is > the only > alternative I know of. Any other products you have come across? > > > > Jen > > > > _____ > > From: Vaccinations > [mailto:Vaccinations ] On > Behalf Of Totten > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:46 AM > Vaccinations > Subject: Re: Ca: Oakland Trib's 'body burden' > investigation > gets scientific credential - EHP article - !!! > > > > There's a book called " Green Living " by the authors of E/Environmental > Magazine (I believe) that talks about dangers out there and ways to > avoid them. Also lists companies in each chapter that supply more > environmentally-friendly items. This is in the U.S., since I know this > group is international. Some things our family does: no plastic > things given to baby to put in mouth. We buy unfinished wood furniture > and finish ourselves with beeswax (to avoid bad chemicals in furniture > finish). Eat organic. Try to avoid plastic ourselves. Avoid vinyl > anything. We use as environmentally friendly cleaning products as > possible. > > -Angie Totten > > p.s. I'm new here and will be posting some questions soon. So far I > have been totally overwhelmed by the sheer number of posts and am > having trouble just reading them and figuring out whether I should save > them, print them out, research the topic more, etc. > > > > On Sunday, May 28, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Sheri B. wrote: > >> So does anyone have any valid ways we can decrease our kids' exposure >> to some of these things? No shots, of course, but what about just >> living in this crazy world? Any pointers? >> >> We try to do non-toxic cleaning but do use standard clothes washing >> detgt. and dishwashing powder. >> >> We never microwave in plastic and try not to use the microwave much >> at all (sometimes we just " have " to, but it's much rarer now). >> >> Any pointers? >> Sheri B. >> >> Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: >> The newspaper's body burden project is available at >> www.insidebayarea.com/bodyburden/ >> >> Children Show Highest Levels of Polybrominated Diphenyl Ethers (PBDEs) >> in >> a California Family of Four -- A Case Study Environ Health Perspect: >> Fischer D et al. Online 25 May 2006] >> http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2006/8554/abstract.html >> >> * * * * >> >> `Body burden' investigation gets scientific credential >> >> FROM STAFF REPORTS >> http://www.insidebayarea.com/timesstar/localnews/ci_3869633 >> >> >> The results of this newspaper's investigation that found high levels >> of >> commercial flame retardants in the blood of the two children in a >> fairly >> typical Bay Area family got an extra endorsement from the scientific >> community on Friday. >> >> The peer-reviewed journal Environmental Health Perspectives, published >> by >> the National Institute of Health, published a scientific write-up of >> the >> results online Thursday night. The article concludes children have >> higher >> levels of flame retardant in their blood and that those levels may be >> high >> enough to cause harm. >> >> ``This is a highly significant paper,'' wrote one of the anonymous >> reviewers of the paper. ``We have a moral obligation to publish the >> unfortunately high concentration in the toddler, (as) that should >> prompt >> more measurements and, perhaps more importantly, a revisiting of our >> regulatory decisions.'' >> >> The paper details in more scientific terms the basic finding of the >> newspapers' investigation that was first published in March 2005: In >> tests >> of a Berkeley family's blood, hair and urine for a variety of chemical >> contaminants - plastics, PCBs, even the chemical precursors to Teflon >> and >> ScotchGuard - the two young children in many cases had higher levels >> than >> the parents. >> >> This was particularly - and, for researchers, alarmingly - true for a >> class of flame retardants known as PBDEs, or polybrominated diphenyl >> ethers. Used to suppress the ignition of foam, textiles, and certain >> plastics, the chemicals have been showing up in blood and breast milk >> samples at increasing rates in the United States. Almost everyone in >> world >> is thought to have some level of contamination, but levels in America >> are >> 10 >> >> Advertisement >> >> to 100 times higher than Europe and Japan. >> >> But only adults have been tested. This newspaper's investigation was >> one >> of the first to test children under the age of 5, and their levels >> were >> two to five times higher than the parents. The youngest - Rowan >> Hammond >> Holland - was 18 months old when initially tested, yet scientists >> found a >> PBDE concentration of almost 700 parts-per-billion in his blood. >> >> His sister, Mikaela, had nearly 400 ppb. Both parents were at about >> 100 >> ppb, about normal for Californians. Scientists have found evidence of >> behavioral and reproductive problems in rats at about 300 ppb. >> >> ``What we are seeing here is very serious,'' said Ake Bergman, a >> co-author >> on the study and a professor of environmental chemistry at Stockholm >> University in Sweden who helped analyze the family's blood samples, in >> an >> interview last year. ``If in fact you have exposure the first few >> years >> that is exceeding the parents' this may have - this may have - >> implications for brain development.'' >> >> The scientific paper is available online at www.ehponline.org. The >> newspaper project is available at www.insidebayarea.com/bodyburden/ >> >> * >> >> The material in this post is distributed without >> profit to those who have expressed a prior interest >> in receiving the included information for research >> and educational purposes.For more information go to: >> http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html >> http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm >> If you wish to use copyrighted material from this >> email for purposes that go beyond 'fair use', you >> must obtain permission from the copyright owner. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath >> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK >> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account >> earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 >> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail >> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm >> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - >> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm >> Reality of the Diseases & Treatment - >> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm >> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Correction: the first blurb (about baby bottles) came from an article in USA Today. -Angie On Monday, May 29, 2006, at 01:39 AM, Totten wrote: > This is condensed info from the book " Green Living " by the editors of > E/Environmental Magazine: > > Baby bottles: In 1999, a study from Japan revealed that a chemical > known as bisphenol A was leaching out of polycarbonate plastic bottles. > Bisphenol A is considered dangerous to babies because it mimics the > hormone estrogen, thereby upsetting the delicate hormone balance of > developing infants. Steer clear of shiny baby bottles in favor of glass > or less shiny plastic. > > Children's toys: Opt for toys made of wood, cloth, and rubber, not soft > pliable plastic, such as that found in inflatable toys, squeeze toys, > dolls, or items elsewhere in the home, such as the plastic shower > curtain (Angie's note: we bought a polyester shower curtain liner from > IKEA to replace our vinyl one). These soft plastics can contain > hazardous chemicals called phthalates, which can leach out of the very > toys chewed by investigative babies. The FDA concluded that exposure > during gestation of a male fetus to one particular phthalate could harm > the fetus's testicles. When Greenpeace tested 63 plastic toys for > children under 3 yrs., scientists found that almost all contained > between 10 and 40 percent of these hazardous softening additives by > weight. > > Angie's note: you can buy non-plastic teethers online, or use frozen > bagels (as long as they can't ingest any part of them). > > -Angie > > > On Sunday, May 28, 2006, at 09:53 PM, Algaveda@... wrote: > >> what is wrong with plastic? >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 We're guilty of plastic cups. Uh oh. Sheri B. --------------------------------- Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 I think you do the best you can. -Angie On Monday, May 29, 2006, at 07:35 AM, Sheri B. wrote: > We're guilty of plastic cups. Uh oh. > Sheri B. > > > --------------------------------- > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. > Just radically better. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 What is IKEA, Angie? Kay Re: avoiding plastic (Angie's note: we bought a polyester shower curtain liner from IKEA to replace our vinyl one). -Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Oh, wow, I thought everybody knew what IKEA was. It's a Swedish-owned superstore that sells mostly (cosmopolitan, European-style, inexpensive) furniture but also household wares. You can get to it by going to www.ikea.com. Looks like you can do some online ordering, not sure what products exactly. We have an IKEA store not too far from us. -Angie On Monday, May 29, 2006, at 05:25 PM, Kay wrote: > What is IKEA, Angie? > > Kay > Re: avoiding plastic > > > (Angie's note: we bought a polyester shower curtain liner from > IKEA to replace our vinyl one). > > -Angie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Never heard of it. Of course I'm in rural Kentucky! LOL Kay Re: avoiding plastic Oh, wow, I thought everybody knew what IKEA was. It's a Swedish-owned superstore that sells mostly (cosmopolitan, European-style, inexpensive) furniture but also household wares. You can get to it by going to www.ikea.com. Looks like you can do some online ordering, not sure what products exactly. We have an IKEA store not too far from us. -Angie On Monday, May 29, 2006, at 05:25 PM, Kay wrote: > What is IKEA, Angie? > > Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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