The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill

April 1, 2006

Brilliant work again by Mr. Olmsted. I am sure that the PR machine

at the CDC will be doing everything in their power to get public

opinion on there side in the next few months.

>

> http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060331-

111327-8105r

>

> The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill By DAN OLMSTED

> UPI Senior Editor

> The newly proposed legislation to study the autism rate in

never-vaccinated American kids could settle the debate over

vaccines and autism once and for all. Does that mean it will never

happen?

> This week U.S. Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., stepped out

front on the issue. She announced at a briefing at the National

Press Club that she is drafting legislation to mandate that the

federal government find the answer to that question.

> Notice the word " mandate " -- as in " direct, " which is the

language the bill uses. As in, quit making excuses and just do it.

> Bureaucrats and lobbyists and " experts " sometimes forget that

the power in this country resides with the people, who express

their will through their elected representatives. This may sound

rather grand, but the point is that legislators are not

some " special interest " who must be humored while the permanent

ruling class goes on its merry way.

> That's why putting a bill before the Congress -- which

Maloney says she will do by the end of April after getting as much

public comment as possible -- could be a bigger threat than people

realize.

> After all, as Maloney said this week, " Maybe someone in the

medical establishment will show me why this study is a bad idea,

but they haven't done it yet. "

> Maloney, who credits this column with the idea to look at

the never-vaccinated, also critiqued the studies that supposedly

have ruled out any link between vaccines -- particularly the

mercury-based preservative thimerosal -- and autism.

> " The one major government study to date, the Institute of

Medicine's 2004 review, has been met with skepticism from a lot of

people, " she said. " There are serious questions about the data set

and methodology.

> " Meanwhile, there is new biological evidence published in

top journals, and from major U.S. universities, to support the

mercury-autism hypothesis. Just last week we saw the study out of

UC , which found that thimerosal disrupts normal biological

signals within cells, causes inflammation and even cell death.

> " In short, " the congresswoman concluded, " I believe that

there are still more questions than answers. But answers are what

we desperately need. "

> Surely everyone's in favor of answers, aren't they? Well,

no, they're not. Already, doubts are being raised about whether

there are enough never-vaccinated kids to do such a study (there

are); whether it's worth doing (it is); and what the results would

really show (well, let's find out).

> In fact, if the feds hadn't been contentedly dozing for the

last decade as the autism rate inexplicably soared, we'd already

have our answer.

> Back in 2002 a woman named Sandy Gottstein, who does not even

have an affected child, came all the way from Anchorage, Alaska, to

raise this issue at a congressional hearing.

> " My question is, is the National Institutes of Health ever

planning on doing a study using the only proper control group, that

is, never-vaccinated children? " Gottstein asked.

> Dr. Steve Foote of NIH responded: " I am not aware of a

proposed study to use a suitably constructed group of never-

vaccinated children. ... Now CDC would be more likely perhaps to be

aware of such an opportunity. "

> Responded Dr. Melinda Wharton of the CDC: " The difficulty

with doing such a study in the United States, of course, is that a

very small portion of children have never received any vaccines,

and these children probably differ in other ways from vaccinated

children. So performing such a study would, in fact, be quite

difficult. "

> Another futile effort is recounted in Kirby's

book, " Evidence of Harm, " which recounts parents' compelling

stories that their children's regressive autism was triggered by

vaccine reactions.

> The book -- just out in paperback and winner of this year's

prize from the prestigious Investigative Reporters and Editors --

describes how in 2004 Lyn Redwood of the advocacy group SafeMinds

sent a list of proposed studies to Rep. Dave Weldon, R-Fla.

> Weldon, a strong advocate of banning thimerosal, sent the

list on to Dr. Gerberding, director of the Centers for

Disease Control and Prevention. Redwood's proposal No. 1: " An

investigation into the rates of neurodevelopmental disorders

including autism in vaccinated and unvaccinated populations (e.g.,

Amish, Christian Scientists.) "

> Last year this column set out to test that theory among the

Amish, in an unvaccinated subset of homeschooled kids and in a

large medical practice in Chicago with thousands of never-

vaccinated children. In this admittedly unscientific and anecdotal

reporting, we didn't find very many kids with autism.

> That's certainly not conclusive, but we did conclude there

are plenty of never-vaccinated kids in this country, and not all of

them are riding around in buggies and reading by candlelight. The

total number of appropriate " controls " -- reasonably typical never-

vaccinated kids -- is well into the tens of thousands, at least.

> Nor is the issue pro-vaccines vs. no vaccines, as some who

oppose such a study are subtly suggesting. It's safety vs.

complacency.

> After all, the CDC switched to an inactivated polio vaccine

in 2000 when it became clear that the live polio virus was causing

a handful of polio cases each year. And kids today are still

protected from polio -- only now with zero chance of actually

contracting it from the vaccine.

> Switching to a safer vaccine did not cause a collapse in

public confidence in childhood immunizations -- probably quite the

contrary.

> Expect to hear all kinds of excuses, including that one, from

the powers that be as to why such a conclusive study couldn't,

shouldn't and really mustn't be done. Then ask yourself, Why?

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April 1, 2006

Cant wait to hear more on this. My boy was never vaccinated. Any

others here who didnt vaccinate?

>

> The Age of Autism: Hot Potato on the Hill

>

> By DAN OLMSTED

> The newly proposed legislation to study the autism rate in never-

vaccinated

> American kids could settle the debate over vaccines and autism

once and for

> all. Does that mean it will never happen?

> This week U.S. Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., stepped out front on

the issue.

> She announced at a briefing at the National Press Club that she is

drafting

> legislation to mandate that the federal government find the answer

to that

> question.

> Notice the word mandate -- as in direct, which is the language the

bill uses.

> As in, quit making excuses and just do it.

> Bureaucrats and lobbyists and experts sometimes forget that the

power in this

> country resides with the people, who express their will through

their

> elected representatives. This may sound rather grand, but the

point is that

> legislators are not some special interest who must be humored

while the permanent

> ruling class goes on its merry way.

> That's why putting a bill before the Congress -- which Maloney

says she will

> do by the end of April after getting as much public comment as

possible --

> could be a bigger threat than people realize.

> After all, as Maloney said this week, Maybe someone in the

medical

> establishment will show me why this study is a bad idea, but they

haven't done it yet.

>

> Maloney, who credits this column with the idea to look at the

> never-vaccinated, also critiqued the studies that supposedly have

ruled out any link

> between vaccines -- particularly the mercury-based preservative

thimerosal -- and

> autism.

> The one major government study to date, the Institute of

Medicine's 2004

> review, has been met with skepticism from a lot of people, she

said. " There are

> serious questions about the data set and methodology.

> " Meanwhile, there is new biological evidence published in top

journals, and

> from major U.S. universities, to support the mercury-autism

hypothesis. Just

> last week we saw the study out of UC , which found that

thimerosal

> disrupts normal biological signals within cells, causes

inflammation and even cell

> death.

> In short, the congresswoman concluded, I believe that there are

still more

> questions than answers. But answers are what we desperately need.

> Surely everyone's in favor of answers, aren't they? Well, no,

they're not.

> Already, doubts are being raised about whether there are enough

> never-vaccinated kids to do such a study (there are); whether

it's worth doing (it is); and

> what the results would really show (well, let's find out).

> In fact, if the feds hadn't been contentedly dozing for the last

decade as

> the autism rate inexplicably soared, we'd already have our

answer.

> Back in 2002 a woman named Sandy Gottstein, who does not even have

an

> affected child, came all the way from Anchorage, Alaska, to raise

this issue at a

> congressional hearing.

> My question is, is the National Institutes of Health ever planning

on doing a

> study using the only proper control group, that is, never-

vaccinated

> children? Gottstein asked.

> Dr. Steve Foote of NIH responded: I am not aware of a proposed

study to use a

> suitably constructed group of never-vaccinated children. ... Now

CDC would

> be more likely perhaps to be aware of such an opportunity.

> Responded Dr. Melinda Wharton of the CDC: The difficulty with

doing such a

> study in the United States, of course, is that a very small

portion of children

> have never received any vaccines, and these children probably

differ in

> other ways from vaccinated children. So performing such a study

would, in fact,

> be quite difficult.

> Another futile effort is recounted in Kirby's book, Evidence

of Harm,

> which recounts parents' compelling stories that their children's

regressive

> autism was triggered by vaccine reactions.

> The book -- just out in paperback and winner of this year's prize

from the

> prestigious Investigative Reporters and Editors -- describes how

in 2004 Lyn

> Redwood of the advocacy group SafeMinds sent a list of proposed

studies to Rep.

> Dave Weldon, R-Fla.

> Weldon, a strong advocate of banning thimerosal, sent the list on

to Dr.

> Gerberding, director of the Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention.

> Redwood's proposal No. 1: An investigation into the rates of

neurodevelopmental

> disorders including autism in vaccinated and unvaccinated

populations (e.g.,

> Amish, Christian Scientists.)

> Last year this column set out to test that theory among the Amish,

in an

> unvaccinated subset of homeschooled kids and in a large medical

practice in

> Chicago with thousands of never-vaccinated children. In this

admittedly

> unscientific and anecdotal reporting, we didn't find very many

kids with autism.

> That's certainly not conclusive, but we did conclude there are

plenty of

> never-vaccinated kids in this country, and not all of them are

riding around in

> buggies and reading by candlelight. The total number of

appropriate controls

> -- reasonably typical never-vaccinated kids -- is well into the

tens of

> thousands, at least.

> Nor is the issue pro-vaccines vs. no vaccines, as some who oppose

such a

> study are subtly suggesting. It's safety vs. complacency.

> After all, the CDC switched to an inactivated polio vaccine in

2000 when it

> became clear that the live polio virus was causing a handful of

polio cases

> each year. And kids today are still protected from polio -- only

now with zero

> chance of actually contracting it from the vaccine.

> Switching to a safer vaccine did not cause a collapse in public

confidence in

> childhood immunizations -- probably quite the contrary.

> Expect to hear all kinds of excuses, including that one, from the

powers that

> be as to why such a conclusive study couldn't, shouldn't and

really mustn't

> be done. Then ask yourself, Why?

> E-mail: dolmsted@...

> Source: United Press International

>

April 2, 2006

In a message dated 02/04/2006 13:51:47 GMT Daylight Time, gail@... writes:

Yes - Tom isn't vaccinated either.Gail>> Cant wait to hear more on this. My boy was never vaccinated. Any > others here who didnt vaccinate?

>>>Sharon is away but her boy has not been vaccinated either

Sharon has amlagams fillings (not as many as me when pregnant) - do you both have fillings?

I rember way back when Jon Tommey was working on a database of history and stuff (maybe he still is - we should ask) that maternal amalgams featured in nearly all cases

Mandi x - two to go - only one after Tuesday - ouch my pocket!

April 2, 2006

Yes - Tom isn't vaccinated either.

Gail

> >

> > The Age of Autism: Hot Potato on the Hill

> >

> > By DAN OLMSTED

> > The newly proposed legislation to study the autism rate in never-

> vaccinated

> > American kids could settle the debate over vaccines and autism

> once and for

> > all. Does that mean it will never happen?

> > This week U.S. Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., stepped out front

on

> the issue.

> > She announced at a briefing at the National Press Club that she

is

> drafting

> > legislation to mandate that the federal government find the

answer

> to that

> > question.

> > Notice the word mandate -- as in direct, which is the language

the

> bill uses.

> > As in, quit making excuses and just do it.

> > Bureaucrats and lobbyists and experts sometimes forget that the

> power in this

> > country resides with the people, who express their will through

> their

> > elected representatives. This may sound rather grand, but the

> point is that

> > legislators are not some special interest who must be humored

> while the permanent

> > ruling class goes on its merry way.

> > That's why putting a bill before the Congress -- which Maloney

> says she will

> > do by the end of April after getting as much public comment as

> possible --

> > could be a bigger threat than people realize.

> > After all, as Maloney said this week, Maybe someone in the

> medical

> > establishment will show me why this study is a bad idea, but

they

> haven't done it yet.

> >

> > Maloney, who credits this column with the idea to look at the

> > never-vaccinated, also critiqued the studies that supposedly

have

> ruled out any link

> > between vaccines -- particularly the mercury-based preservative

> thimerosal -- and

> > autism.

> > The one major government study to date, the Institute of

> Medicine's 2004

> > review, has been met with skepticism from a lot of people, she

> said. " There are

> > serious questions about the data set and methodology.

> > " Meanwhile, there is new biological evidence published in top

> journals, and

> > from major U.S. universities, to support the mercury-autism

> hypothesis. Just

> > last week we saw the study out of UC , which found that

> thimerosal

> > disrupts normal biological signals within cells, causes

> inflammation and even cell

> > death.

> > In short, the congresswoman concluded, I believe that there are

> still more

> > questions than answers. But answers are what we desperately

need.

> > Surely everyone's in favor of answers, aren't they? Well, no,

> they're not.

> > Already, doubts are being raised about whether there are enough

> > never-vaccinated kids to do such a study (there are); whether

> it's worth doing (it is); and

> > what the results would really show (well, let's find out).

> > In fact, if the feds hadn't been contentedly dozing for the last

> decade as

> > the autism rate inexplicably soared, we'd already have our

> answer.

> > Back in 2002 a woman named Sandy Gottstein, who does not even

have

> an

> > affected child, came all the way from Anchorage, Alaska, to

raise

> this issue at a

> > congressional hearing.

> > My question is, is the National Institutes of Health ever

planning

> on doing a

> > study using the only proper control group, that is, never-

> vaccinated

> > children? Gottstein asked.

> > Dr. Steve Foote of NIH responded: I am not aware of a proposed

> study to use a

> > suitably constructed group of never-vaccinated children. ...

Now

> CDC would

> > be more likely perhaps to be aware of such an opportunity.

> > Responded Dr. Melinda Wharton of the CDC: The difficulty with

> doing such a

> > study in the United States, of course, is that a very small

> portion of children

> > have never received any vaccines, and these children probably

> differ in

> > other ways from vaccinated children. So performing such a study

> would, in fact,

> > be quite difficult.

> > Another futile effort is recounted in Kirby's book,

Evidence

> of Harm,

> > which recounts parents' compelling stories that their children's

> regressive

> > autism was triggered by vaccine reactions.

> > The book -- just out in paperback and winner of this year's

prize

> from the

> > prestigious Investigative Reporters and Editors -- describes how

> in 2004 Lyn

> > Redwood of the advocacy group SafeMinds sent a list of proposed

> studies to Rep.

> > Dave Weldon, R-Fla.

> > Weldon, a strong advocate of banning thimerosal, sent the list

on

> to Dr.

> > Gerberding, director of the Centers for Disease Control

and

> Prevention.

> > Redwood's proposal No. 1: An investigation into the rates of

> neurodevelopmental

> > disorders including autism in vaccinated and unvaccinated

> populations (e.g.,

> > Amish, Christian Scientists.)

> > Last year this column set out to test that theory among the

Amish,

> in an

> > unvaccinated subset of homeschooled kids and in a large medical

> practice in

> > Chicago with thousands of never-vaccinated children. In this

> admittedly

> > unscientific and anecdotal reporting, we didn't find very many

> kids with autism.

> > That's certainly not conclusive, but we did conclude there are

> plenty of

> > never-vaccinated kids in this country, and not all of them are

> riding around in

> > buggies and reading by candlelight. The total number of

> appropriate controls

> > -- reasonably typical never-vaccinated kids -- is well into the

> tens of

> > thousands, at least.

> > Nor is the issue pro-vaccines vs. no vaccines, as some who

oppose

> such a

> > study are subtly suggesting. It's safety vs. complacency.

> > After all, the CDC switched to an inactivated polio vaccine in

> 2000 when it

> > became clear that the live polio virus was causing a handful of

> polio cases

> > each year. And kids today are still protected from polio --

only

> now with zero

> > chance of actually contracting it from the vaccine.

> > Switching to a safer vaccine did not cause a collapse in public

> confidence in

> > childhood immunizations -- probably quite the contrary.

> > Expect to hear all kinds of excuses, including that one, from

the

> powers that

> > be as to why such a conclusive study couldn't, shouldn't and

> really mustn't

> > be done. Then ask yourself, Why?

> > E-mail: dolmsted@

> > Source: United Press International

> >

>

April 2, 2006

In a message dated 02/04/2006 16:40:36 GMT Daylight Time, bbrowne123@... writes:

Had fillings since i was 6 years old. Most of them in the last 10 years when i switched to an NHS vs private dentist who insisted my teeth were bad, yeah right. In 7 years i must had 15 fillings from this guy! I didnt know any better.

>>>well, I had two courses of HEP B.........................sigh - ex dental nurse who went to be the manager of GP surgery and showed my loyalty by having my flu jab in front of waiting room of pateints for 14 years and 5 yearly Tetanus......................bigger sigh

Mandi x

April 2, 2006

In a message dated 02/04/2006 17:57:25 GMT Daylight Time, jacqui@... writes:

My daughter is/was vaccinated but (how crazy does this sound) I swallowed a filling which came out early during my pregnancy - I am also a terrible nighttime teeth grinder which presumably would be filing more mercury off also!!

>>>I have been a grinder since about age 5 ( I had my first amalgams by then BTW) but voila, since the majority of fillings out I don;t do it anymore, niether do I chew the inside of my cheeks - there used to be a nice chewables rdige there when UI was grinding. Didn;rt even realized I'd stopped until about 4 months ago...................

Mandi x

April 2, 2006

Had fillings since i was 6 years old. Most of them in the last 10

years when i switched to an NHS vs private dentist who insisted my

teeth were bad, yeah right. In 7 years i must had 15 fillings from

this guy! I didnt know any better.

Also had a hep b injection years ago.

> >

> > Cant wait to hear more on this. My boy was never vaccinated.

Any

> > others here who didnt vaccinate?

>

> >>>Sharon is away but her boy has not been vaccinated either

>

> Sharon has amlagams fillings (not as many as me when pregnant) -

do you both

> have fillings?

>

> I rember way back when Jon Tommey was working on a database of

history and

> stuff (maybe he still is - we should ask) that maternal amalgams

featured in

> nearly all cases

>

> Mandi x - two to go - only one after Tuesday - ouch my pocket!

>

April 2, 2006

So what do you think

caused your children’s autism? I think my son Tom was born autistic but I had a

filling when I was pregnant – I think all the other vaccines made him worse. Would

love to know what you think. Sara

Re:

Re: The Age of Autism: Hot Potato on the Hill

In a

message dated 02/04/2006 13:51:47 GMT Daylight Time, gail@... writes:

Yes -

Tom isn't vaccinated either.

Gail

>

> Cant wait to hear more on this. My boy was never vaccinated. Any

> others here who didnt vaccinate?

>>>Sharon

is away but her boy has not been vaccinated either

Sharon

has amlagams fillings (not as many as me when pregnant) - do you both have

fillings?

I

rember way back when Jon Tommey was working on a database of history and stuff

(maybe he still is - we should ask) that maternal amalgams featured in nearly

all cases

Mandi x

- two to go - only one after Tuesday - ouch my pocket!

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April 2, 2006

In a message dated 02/04/2006 20:59:58 GMT Daylight Time, Moroza-@... writes:

The increase in America goes hand in hand with the increase in the number of childhood vaccinations, but thatâ€™s not true here is it? What do any of you attribute the epidemic in Britain to?

>>>We moved ours forward so the kids got them earlier then they used to and they gwet more than they did now

Mandi x

April 2, 2006

Thats what always makes it so hard to explain, reading about la Westbrook the other day and her snorting lines of coke all the way through pregnancy and then having a perfectly normal baby.

My sister in law only ever buys Tesco stripey cheap food and both her kids are tall, strong and extremely bright.

This must be where genetics meets environmental insult, that's my best guess.

Doesen't help much when you are at a family function with a bag full of organic healthy options and all the rest with their very normals are tucking into sugar laden, high phenol, cassein filled, junk laced with e numbers and msg, with the odd bit of aspartame just for good measure [sigh] lol.

Vicky

April 2, 2006

I had at least 2 amalgam fillings while pregnant and in my 1st

trimester. Our dr said that my baby would have been exposed to about

300 micrograms of mercury. Not much hope of him being NT then! Even

though we didn't think Charlie was autistic at birth our dr said he

would definitely have had a problem.

I have just written a letter to my dentist asking why she didn't

warn me and follow the governments guidelines to avoid giving

amalgam fillings to pregnant woman. These were written in 1997 and I

was given the fillings in 2000 - nothing like having a dentist on

the ball! I know I can't sue or anything but I need to do something

about the anger I feel towards her - especially as she doesn't

believe me. Our old ABA tutor was told 27 years ago by her dentist

that he couldn't give her any fillings while she was pregnant so

it's not exactly new! Rant Rant!

Peta -

-- In Autism Treatment , " Sass and Rem "

<Moroza-@...> wrote:

>

> So what do you think caused your children's autism? I think my son

Tom was

> born autistic but I had a filling when I was pregnant – I think

all the

> other vaccines made him worse. Would love to know what you think.

Sara

>

> Re: Re: The Age of Autism: Hot

Potato on

> the Hill

>

> In a message dated 02/04/2006 13:51:47 GMT Daylight Time, gail@...

> writes:

>

> Yes - Tom isn't vaccinated either.

> Gail

>

> >

> > Cant wait to hear more on this. My boy was never vaccinated. Any

> > others here who didnt vaccinate?

>

> >>>Sharon is away but her boy has not been vaccinated either

>

> Sharon has amlagams fillings (not as many as me when pregnant) -

do you both

> have fillings?

>

> I rember way back when Jon Tommey was working on a database of

history and

> stuff (maybe he still is - we should ask) that maternal amalgams

featured in

> nearly all cases

>

> Mandi x - two to go - only one after Tuesday - ouch my pocket!

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as

medical advice.

> If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

qualified

> practitioner.

>

April 2, 2006

My daughter is/was vaccinated but (how crazy does this sound) I

swallowed a filling which came out early during my pregnancy - I am

also a terrible nighttime teeth grinder which presumably would be

filing more mercury off also!!

Jacqui

> >

> > Cant wait to hear more on this. My boy was never vaccinated. Any

> > others here who didnt vaccinate?

>

> >>>Sharon is away but her boy has not been vaccinated either

>

> Sharon has amlagams fillings (not as many as me when pregnant) -

do you both

> have fillings?

>

> I rember way back when Jon Tommey was working on a database of

history and

> stuff (maybe he still is - we should ask) that maternal amalgams

featured in

> nearly all cases

>

> Mandi x - two to go - only one after Tuesday - ouch my pocket!

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as

medical advice.

> If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

qualified

> practitioner.

>

April 2, 2006

I still have fillings - about 8 I think. But I know hardly anyone

who doesn't have at least one filling. I still think it's a

composite thing - i.e. add a dose of fillings, a big dose of

thimerosal, maybe other reaction to vaccinations, 20th/21st century

pollution and a genetic weakness. My friends all have amalgams and

no asd children. My friend with an ASD son had a similar birth to

mine - cord round neck etc but nothing else remotely similar. What

I do find confusing is that before the clean air act the pollution

levels in London particular were many times what htey are now -

people died of the effects there and then. Huge breathing problems

and pneumonia etc. Is pollution now more insididious or are we the

cumulative effect of pollution from the industrial revolution

onwards? Because no matter how stinky and vile our suburbs are now

we can see across the road, and we don'T have " peasoupers " and we

don't put hospitals on alert when the pollution can't move upwards

in certain weather conditions. ALl this was the case until the

1950s. Did we save it up for now? Really hard to get your head

round.

> > >

> > > Cant wait to hear more on this. My boy was never vaccinated.

Any

> > > others here who didnt vaccinate?

> >

> > >>>Sharon is away but her boy has not been vaccinated either

> >

> > Sharon has amlagams fillings (not as many as me when pregnant) -

> do you both

> > have fillings?

> >

> > I rember way back when Jon Tommey was working on a database of

> history and

> > stuff (maybe he still is - we should ask) that maternal amalgams

> featured in

> > nearly all cases

> >

> > Mandi x - two to go - only one after Tuesday - ouch my pocket!

> >

> > DISCLAIMER

> > No information contained in this post is to be construed as

> medical advice.

> > If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

> qualified

> > practitioner.

> >

April 2, 2006

I agreee, it does my head in. I warned my

friend about vaccines and she had her baby vaccinated anyway. Every time she

took him I cringed, I couldn’t bear her to do that to her child. But of

course there’s absolutely nothing wrong with him (and I hope it stays

that way!) What about all the neglected children without autism or the children

with terrible, abusive parents without autism or the really poor children with

terrible diets without autism? I find it baffling (I know none of those things

cause autism but they all live in the same world as us). What I really don’t

understand is… does anyone know the answer to this? The increase in America goes hand in hand with

the increase in the number of childhood vaccinations, but that’s not true

here is it? What do any of you attribute the epidemic in Britain to?

Sara

Re: The Age of Autism: Hot Potato on the Hill

I still have fillings - about

8 I think. But I know hardly anyone

who doesn't have at least one filling. I

still think it's a

composite thing - i.e. add a dose of fillings, a

big dose of

thimerosal, maybe other reaction to vaccinations,

20th/21st century

pollution and a genetic weakness. My friends

all have amalgams and

no asd children. My friend with an ASD son

had a similar birth to

mine - cord round neck etc but nothing else remotely

similar. What

I do find confusing is that before the clean air

act the pollution

levels in London particular were many times what

htey are now -

people died of the effects there and then. Huge

breathing problems

and pneumonia etc. Is pollution now more

insididious or are we the

cumulative effect of pollution from the industrial

revolution

onwards? Because no matter how stinky and

vile our suburbs are now

we can see across the road, and we don'T have

" peasoupers " and we

don't put hospitals on alert when the pollution

can't move upwards

in certain weather conditions. ALl this was

the case until the

1950s. Did we save it up for now?

Really hard to get your head

round.

> > >

> > > Cant wait to hear more on this. My

boy was never vaccinated.

Any

> > > others here who didnt vaccinate?

> >

> > >>>Sharon is away but her boy

has not been vaccinated either

> >

> > Sharon has amlagams fillings (not as

many as me when pregnant) -

> do you both

> > have fillings?

> >

> > I rember way back when Jon Tommey was

working on a database of

> history and

> > stuff (maybe he still is - we should

ask) that maternal amalgams

> featured in

> > nearly all cases

> >

> > Mandi x - two to go - only one after

Tuesday - ouch my pocket!

> >

> > DISCLAIMER

> > No information contained in this post is

to be construed as

> medical advice.

> > If you need medical advice, please seek

it from a suitably

> qualified

> > practitioner.

> >

April 2, 2006