Re: Wierd symptom: why would water make me bloated?

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Hi a,

I have had this for as long as I can remember too; though I don't feel

much pain with it unless I happen to have something with some sort of

sugar in within a few hours - eg fruit and water = mega bloating. Not

sure what can be done about it. Like you, if I go out then I will

reduce my liquid intake for the sake of comfort, but maintain a good

level of hydration the rest of the time at home.

Rosie

Hi all,

For quite a while I've had a very strange thing happen when I drink

water: it makes me very bloated and it hurts.

I only drink bottled water, different brands will have the same

effect: bloating + pain. I've tried adding a little pure salt to it

and for a while it seemed to help but now even with the salt, one

glass of water (always far apart from meals) makes me very bloated!..

Has anyone heard of this/got any idea why this would happen? It's

quite upsetting.

Also, often water will make my heartburn worse but that's not as

bothersome as the bloating. I end up drinking very little water these

days because of this.

Any suggestions as to why this would happen would be most helpful!

a

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Hi a,

I have exactly the same problem and it's awful. I end up with a huge painful

stomach that swishes

like a hot-water bottle.

What does work for me is Betaine HCL tablets.

I've always presumed that the water problem is related to the slow stomach

emptying problem.

Kindst regards,

Annette

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Hi Annette,

What dosages of Betaine do you use? How many and when?

Thanks,

Katrina

>

> Hi a,

>

> I have exactly the same problem and it's awful. I end up with a huge painful

stomach that swishes

> like a hot-water bottle.

>

> What does work for me is Betaine HCL tablets.

>

> I've always presumed that the water problem is related to the slow stomach

emptying problem.

>

> Kindst regards,

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Annette,

What dosages of Betaine do you use? How many and when?

Thanks,

Katrina

>

> Hi a,

>

> I have exactly the same problem and it's awful. I end up with a huge painful

stomach that swishes

> like a hot-water bottle.

>

> What does work for me is Betaine HCL tablets.

>

> I've always presumed that the water problem is related to the slow stomach

emptying problem.

>

> Kindst regards,

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

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Rosie and Annette,

yes, I also find this to be a very bothersome problem. Would you

believe I actually thought no one else would have this same problem

when posted about it? So I feel relieved to find I'm not alone with

this bizarre effect, though of course I wish no one had it in the

first place.

Rosie, you mentioned water + fruit really worsens the problem in your

case. Yes, for the same reason (and with all foods in general) I

started drinking water far apart from my meals (2hrs) but

unfortunately it hasn't helped lessen the bloating.

Annette, I always wondered why water would have such an effect. What

you said about how you suspect it may have to do with delayed gastric

emptying makes perfect sense! It was like I had an epiphany when I

read that.

Wishing you well,

a

>

> Hi a,

>

> I have exactly the same problem and it's awful. I end up with a huge

painful stomach that swishes

> like a hot-water bottle.

>

> What does work for me is Betaine HCL tablets.

>

> I've always presumed that the water problem is related to the slow

stomach emptying problem.

>

> Kindst regards,

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

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I, too, had this problem. I solved it a number of years ago by adding a bit

of lemon or lime juice/peel to the water.

works for me, although betaine HCl would do the trick, too.

mjh

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_rvankonynen _ (rvankonynen)

Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:29 am (PST)

Hi, a, Rosie, Annette and the group,

I agree with Annette's explanation of this phenomenon. See below

what I said in my recent poster paper. Note that ref. 157 is the

paper by Burnet et al. in Australia that reported slow gastric

emptying in CFS, especially of liquids:

" Slow gastric emptying (157) and gastroesophageal reflux: According

to this Hypothesis, in CFS these result from mitochondrial

dysfunction in the parietal cells of the stomach, due to depletion of

reduced glutathione, which results in low production of stomach

acid. (Anecdotally, many CFS patients have reported absence of

eructation after ingestion of sodium bicarbonate solution on an empty

stomach, suggesting low stomach acid status.) A slower rate of

gastric emptying was found to be associated with higher pH, i.e.

lower acid status (158). "

I agree that betaine HCl should help this in the short term. In the

longer term, lifting the block in the methylation cycle and restoring

the level of glutathione and the levels of nutrients should solve

this problem permanently.

Rich

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Hi, a, Rosie, Annette and the group,

I agree with Annette's explanation of this phenomenon. See below

what I said in my recent poster paper. Note that ref. 157 is the

paper by Burnet et al. in Australia that reported slow gastric

emptying in CFS, especially of liquids:

" Slow gastric emptying (157) and gastroesophageal reflux: According

to this Hypothesis, in CFS these result from mitochondrial

dysfunction in the parietal cells of the stomach, due to depletion of

reduced glutathione, which results in low production of stomach

acid. (Anecdotally, many CFS patients have reported absence of

eructation after ingestion of sodium bicarbonate solution on an empty

stomach, suggesting low stomach acid status.) A slower rate of

gastric emptying was found to be associated with higher pH, i.e.

lower acid status (158). "

I agree that betaine HCl should help this in the short term. In the

longer term, lifting the block in the methylation cycle and restoring

the level of glutathione and the levels of nutrients should solve

this problem permanently.

Rich

> >

> > Hi a,

> >

> > I have exactly the same problem and it's awful. I end up with a

huge

> painful stomach that swishes

> > like a hot-water bottle.

> >

> > What does work for me is Betaine HCL tablets.

> >

> > I've always presumed that the water problem is related to the slow

> stomach emptying problem.

> >

> > Kindst regards,

> > Annette

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ___________________________________________________________

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> quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs./trueswitch2.html

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Rosie,

Yes! This is right on. You know, I do wonder about protocols/regimens

that include 3 litres of water a day. Whilst very benificial for some

(many even, perhaps) I think that in our cases it may lead to

overhydration. Also, because of the bloating effect, I think at most I

could manage maybe 1 litre.

Take care,

a

>

>

> Hi Nil,

> I agree with your concerns re salt. I also think it is necessary to

> refer to body mass re. hydration. I know both a and myself are

> very petite and we will not require as much water in a day as someone

> who is larger, and this is something that is overlooked constantly by

> the 'healthy brigade' who say that we should all be drinking at least 2

> litres of water a day.

> Rosie