Re: [CFS-ME-Fibro] Anxiety attacks? Endogenous...

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Massimo, anxiety (and also depression) are very often indeed relaated to

systemic fungal

(typically canida) situations -- which can disrupt everything, including the HPA

axis, which

of course means the brain, disrupting neurotranmitter function, resulting often

in anxiety.

And many report that once the candida or other fungal infection is finally under

control,

the anxiety goes away.

I noticed this myself -- briefly -- about 3 1/2 years ago -- when I took

threelac and also

custom probiotics for a couple months. I felt like I could stop my klonopin

cold turkey,

which one should never do. Unfortunately, I ran out of $$ -- that three-lac is

EXPENSIVE

-- and haven't been able to do it again for a decent period of time (like 6

months+).

I too had anxiety for about 17 years before I developed gradual onset CFIDS. In

hindsight,

I believe my gut bacteria was destroyed or altered by both antibiotics taken

for acne in

high school, plus later several times a year for sinus infections -- for about

10 years.

Ironically, I stopped having sinus infections once I stopped relyling on ABX's,

although I 've

had a realy low grade one for years now, which I believe is fungal and

bacterial.

Long story short: I say there's always a reason for everything, so my answer

would be

endogenous.

Dan

>

> I lived with extreme stress for some years. Than i started to live in

> continious anxiety-like stage and some depression.I am considering this as

> HPA axis mulfunction. Than after living in this continious anxiety-like

> stage for about about 7-9 years,my symptoms which are called as CFS onset

> started. I am thinking anxiety is symptom of HPA axis mulfunction.

> I also went through some additional anxiety and depression due to

> frustrating symptoms of illness.

> At previous times I was saying I had this illness since 1989,in these days I

> am thinking it actually started about 7-9 years before that time.

> bw

>

> Nil

> [CFS-ME-Fibro] Anxiety attacks? Esogenous or

> > endogenous?

> >

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > I was wondering if the anxiety attacks and depression in CFS/ME could be

> > considered primary at times instead of secondary. Or, put it in other

> > words, is anxiety and depression always related to the fact that a

> > prolonged illness lowers moods and gives anxiety or there could be

> > different endogenous reasons like bacterias, fungi, toxins and viruses

> > crossing the brain barrier?

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> > Massimo

> >

> >