Re: Re: Magnesium and pain

December 31, 2006

HI ,

And it also helps make ATP!!!!!! Now I am wondering how to get enough in

without causing the distressing symptom of loose bowels. Do you or does anyone

know of a cream without sulfate to use.

Or will the sulfate hurt me if I am CBS +/+??

Any other magnesium in a form that will bypass the gut???

All the best,

Janet

davidhall2020 <david-hall@...> wrote:

Hi, Janet.

Good job! Besides so many studies showing PWCs low in magnesium, depletion of

glutathione and magnesium go hand in hand. Chelation therapies also deplete

magnesium like nothing else, it actually doesn't get chelated itself but appears

to be

absolutely necessary for key enzymatic reactions to happen in the process so it

gets used

up really fast.

jgstev716@...> wrote:

>

> HI All,

>

> I just want to put this out there. I have had constant pain in my feet

> and legs for years. It was really getting to a point of such severe

> pain, all I could manage was to just sit with my legs up and I still

> hurt.

>

> Sara by way of Rich (thank you both so much) told me to take

> magnesium. Looks like I need about 600 mg everyday. Now all my leg

> pain in gone!! Energy so much better. I researched magnesium and it

> talks about how CFSers sometimes show low.It was crucial for me.

>

> I also notice on my UTM that I show high magnesium! This test is very

> confusting. Now I realize what may be showing high is what I am

> wasting in my urine.

>

> Check your mag levels. It may help alot.

>

> Janet

>

January 2, 2007

How much of each/either if these do you take?

On 1/2/07, foxhillers@... <foxhillers@...> wrote:

> Janet

>

> As I've posted before, I take small doses of Milk of Magnesia several times

> a day with NO loose bowels.

>

> Malic acid/Mg malate from apples is known to increase ATP.

>

January 3, 2007

Also, Cheney used to recommend magnesium injections, so that could be something

to look into.

Trina

foxhillers@... wrote:

Janet

As I've posted before, I take small doses of Milk of Magnesia several times

a day with NO loose bowels.

Malic acid/Mg malate from apples is known to increase ATP.

Mg Chloride can be used topically.

See my previous posts. Eat 85% chocolate and millet...

mjh

Posted by: " Janet s " _jgstev716@... _

(mailto:jgstev716@...?Subject= Re:%20Magnesium%20and%20pain)

_alwaysacutie2u _

(alwaysacutie2u)

Mon Jan 1, 2007 7:11 pm (PST)

HI ,

And it also helps make ATP!!!!!! Now I am wondering how to get enough in

without causing the distressing symptom of loose bowels. Do you or does anyone

know of a cream without sulfate to use.

Or will the sulfate hurt me if I am CBS +/+??

Any other magnesium in a form that will bypass the gut???

All the best,

Janet

January 3, 2007

I need so much mag everyday, I could never keep up with the injections. How is

the magnesium used topically. Who makes this?? What brand. Magnesium sulfate I

cannot use because I am CBS +/+.

Thank you for your help,

Janet

Katrina Tangen <tvpro36@...> wrote:

Also, Cheney used to recommend magnesium injections, so that could be

something to look into.

Trina

foxhillers@... wrote:

Janet

As I've posted before, I take small doses of Milk of Magnesia several times

a day with NO loose bowels.

Malic acid/Mg malate from apples is known to increase ATP.

Mg Chloride can be used topically.

See my previous posts. Eat 85% chocolate and millet...

mjh

Posted by: " Janet s " _jgstev716@... _

(mailto:jgstev716@...?Subject= Re:%20Magnesium%20and%20pain)

_alwaysacutie2u _

(alwaysacutie2u)

Mon Jan 1, 2007 7:11 pm (PST)

HI ,

And it also helps make ATP!!!!!! Now I am wondering how to get enough in

without causing the distressing symptom of loose bowels. Do you or does anyone

know of a cream without sulfate to use.

Or will the sulfate hurt me if I am CBS +/+??

Any other magnesium in a form that will bypass the gut???

All the best,

Janet

January 3, 2007

What are the symptoms you are having when you stop magnesium?

About two months ago I was out of city. My magnesium supplement finished and

I did not have any extra bottle with me. I stopped it. Strangely I did not

notice any differance and I did not restart it yet as I did not notice any

differance.I had also stopped my calcium at that time.

Is there any explanation to that?

At this point I am using calcium I produce from eggs and lemon but no

magnesium. Still did not notice any problems.Is this my problematic brain

that is not noticing problems?Not sure.

Thanks.

Nil

Re: Re: Magnesium and pain

>I need so much mag everyday, I could never keep up with the injections. How

>is the magnesium used topically. Who makes this?? What brand. Magnesium

>sulfate I cannot use because I am CBS +/+.

>

January 3, 2007

I have terrible leg pain, feet too. They just ache, it was starting to interfere

with actual function. (To much pain to be on my feet for long and nothing helped

except magnesium.)

Janet

yildiz <yildiz22@...> wrote:

What are the symptoms you are having when you stop magnesium?

About two months ago I was out of city. My magnesium supplement finished and

I did not have any extra bottle with me. I stopped it. Strangely I did not

notice any differance and I did not restart it yet as I did not notice any

differance.I had also stopped my calcium at that time.

Is there any explanation to that?

At this point I am using calcium I produce from eggs and lemon but no

magnesium. Still did not notice any problems.Is this my problematic brain

that is not noticing problems?Not sure.

Thanks.

Nil

Re: Re: Magnesium and pain

>I need so much mag everyday, I could never keep up with the injections. How

>is the magnesium used topically. Who makes this?? What brand. Magnesium

>sulfate I cannot use because I am CBS +/+.

>

January 3, 2007

Uh oh, Nil!

I once stopped Mg because I imagined it was causing stomach irritation, and I

VERY slowly grew weaker and weaker, without noticing for a long time. It made my

brain duller as it made me weaker. I don't know what would've happened to me if

I had not prayed for wisdom, and heard the inner voice say to go back to the Mg.

I immediately went back on, and in a matter of days I could tell I was turning

around, but it seemed I never got back to where I was. (Just as with so many

unfortunate episodes we have.)

Adrienne

Re: Re: Magnesium and pain

>I need so much mag everyday, I could never keep up with the injections. How

>is the magnesium used topically. Who makes this?? What brand. Magnesium

>sulfate I cannot use because I am CBS +/+.

>

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

January 4, 2007

I take magnesium glycinate as it does not effect my gut and I understand that

this is the most absorbable way of taking magnesium other than via injection.

Adam

Re: Re: Magnesium and pain

I need so much mag everyday, I could never keep up with the injections. How is

the magnesium used topically. Who makes this?? What brand. Magnesium sulfate I

cannot use because I am CBS +/+.

Thank you for your help,

Janet

Katrina Tangen <tvpro36@...> wrote:

Also, Cheney used to recommend magnesium injections, so that could be

something to look into.

Trina

foxhillers@... wrote:

Janet

As I've posted before, I take small doses of Milk of Magnesia several times

a day with NO loose bowels.

Malic acid/Mg malate from apples is known to increase ATP.

Mg Chloride can be used topically.

See my previous posts. Eat 85% chocolate and millet...

mjh

Posted by: " Janet s " _jgstev716@... _

(mailto:jgstev716@...?Subject= Re:%20Magnesium%20and%20pain)

_alwaysacutie2u _

(alwaysacutie2u)

Mon Jan 1, 2007 7:11 pm (PST)

HI ,

And it also helps make ATP!!!!!! Now I am wondering how to get enough in

without causing the distressing symptom of loose bowels. Do you or does anyone

know of a cream without sulfate to use.

Or will the sulfate hurt me if I am CBS +/+??

Any other magnesium in a form that will bypass the gut???

All the best,

Janet

January 5, 2007

Dani,

whatever is too heavy for your stomach can always be injected and can be very

good.

For example, B12 can be very hard for people with gut problems, but injected it

has much less side effects related to your stomach and colon.

Try to inject it if you think you may benefit from it.

Some people have problems with so many different supplements, and it is not easy

to understand why, because we are all very different.

I think I did not respond very well to SAM-e for example apart from the very

first three days; many patients instead believe it does help them a lot.

Hugs,

Massimo

Re: Magnesium and pain

I started with magnesium glycinate yesterday and it gave me terrible

terrible heartburn. I had to take Nexium straight away after it. I

had tried other forms of oral mag and all gave me heartburn but was

hoping that glycinate would be gentler. I took Kirkman Labs Buffered

Magnesium Glycinate, the hypoallergenic one; 200mg in afternoon and

200 more at night; both times with food so as to lessen stomach upset.

I don't understand: buffered is meant to lessen stomach upset, right?

But this is buffered with citric acid, adipic acid & ascorbic acid.

Wouldn't all these acids actually make heartburn worse? I don't know

if I should continue with this whilst taking something for heartburn

at same time.

a

>

> I take magnesium glycinate as it does not effect my gut and I

understand that this is the most absorbable way of taking magnesium

other than via injection.

> Adam

January 5, 2007

Hi I am sorry that magnesium glycinate has effected you this way. The supplement

I take is produced by " Nutri " which contains magnesium 220mg, glycinate 120mg,

lysinate 80mg, aspartate 20mg.

Regards