Re: Intestinal permeability test normal, why all the food sensivities?

[Guest guest]

I'd love to hear any answers as well. My intolerences are going up and up. I

don't have leaky gut either. But I do have lyme and mold issues and wonder if

the mycotoxins could have something to do with it. I never had a sensitivity in

my life until I took antibiotics to kill lyme and now I'm in this spiral of

every week a new thing throws my histimines into a fit. I even have to keep an

epipen now. I don't like this and I would love some input.

per h <pehan03@...> wrote:

Hi, anyone have any idea of which mechanism cause these incredible

food/chemical sensitivities? My intestinal permeability test was normal.

I have had inconclusive tests regarding yeast. I have had medium to high

dysbiosis risk. Severe intolerance of probiotics.

What do you think? Are the food sensitivities caused by viral or

bacterial infection ? or inborn genetic problems in metabolism, or

even stuff like mercury wiping out enzymes or candida, but why then

the normal integrity of the gut, I thought LGS was a major culprit in

the disease mechanism.

Per

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am also interested in any responses to this problem

I also have become more and more sensitive to most foods, but, I

probably do have leaky gut. The foods I usually can eat sometimes

become like poison. Many foods not only cause various symptoms but

also crash my adrenals.

I keep thinking of Dr. Cheney's cascade toward a heart

transplant. He said that the only foods he could eat were pineapple

and one other food.

I have already had problems indicative of malfunctioning organs -

skin, adrenals and kidneys already affected, now the digestion. So i

wonder if this is a manisfestation of what Dr. Cheney describes as

lack of blood flow to the intestines - hence, lack of digestion.

It seems that no matter what I try - digestive enzymes,

probiotics, organic easy to digest food - this issue does not

correct itself. (I also have problems taking enzymes and probiotics

like Per).

What is left to consider but Dr. Cheney's postulates regarding

the gradual malfunctioning of the whole body? I just don't know.

> Hi, anyone have any idea of which mechanism cause these incredible

> food/chemical sensitivities? My intestinal permeability test was

normal.

>

> I have had inconclusive tests regarding yeast. I have had medium

to high

> dysbiosis risk. Severe intolerance of probiotics.

>

> What do you think? Are the food sensitivities caused by viral or

> bacterial infection ? or inborn genetic problems in metabolism, or

> even stuff like mercury wiping out enzymes or candida, but why then

> the normal integrity of the gut, I thought LGS was a major culprit

in

> the disease mechanism.

>

> Per

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If it is a lack of blood flow-or even if something else-massaging the abdominal

organs will help. When I was severely troubled in my digestion, it did help. I

also recommend treatment with a FIR lamp.

It would make sense to treat the abdomen just prior to eating. Probably would

help to drink some hot water just before eating, too.

Or is all this too simple and low-tech? The massage has helped everything so

much! (Going for my weekly today.)

Adrienne

Re: Intestinal permeability test normal, why all

the food sensivities?

Hi,

I am also interested in any responses to this problem

I also have become more and more sensitive to most foods, but, I

probably do have leaky gut. The foods I usually can eat sometimes

become like poison. Many foods not only cause various symptoms but

also crash my adrenals.

I keep thinking of Dr. Cheney's cascade toward a heart

transplant. He said that the only foods he could eat were pineapple

and one other food.

I have already had problems indicative of malfunctioning organs -

skin, adrenals and kidneys already affected, now the digestion. So i

wonder if this is a manisfestation of what Dr. Cheney describes as

lack of blood flow to the intestines - hence, lack of digestion.

It seems that no matter what I try - digestive enzymes,

probiotics, organic easy to digest food - this issue does not

correct itself. (I also have problems taking enzymes and probiotics

like Per).

What is left to consider but Dr. Cheney's postulates regarding

the gradual malfunctioning of the whole body? I just don't know.

> Hi, anyone have any idea of which mechanism cause these incredible

> food/chemical sensitivities? My intestinal permeability test was

normal.

>

> I have had inconclusive tests regarding yeast. I have had medium

to high

> dysbiosis risk. Severe intolerance of probiotics.

>

> What do you think? Are the food sensitivities caused by viral or

> bacterial infection ? or inborn genetic problems in metabolism, or

> even stuff like mercury wiping out enzymes or candida, but why then

> the normal integrity of the gut, I thought LGS was a major culprit

in

> the disease mechanism.

>

> Per

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

See Chapt 4 " The Biotoxin Pathway " and then Chapt 13 " Why's the Skinny

Guy on a Diet? "

Mold Warriors by Dr Ritchie Shoemaker.

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[Guest guest]

When I have extreme tummy troubles I put a heating pad on it for hours. It

always helps bunches.

" Adrienne G. " <duckblossm@...> wrote: If it is a lack of blood

flow-or even if something else-massaging the abdominal organs will help. When I

was severely troubled in my digestion, it did help. I also recommend treatment

with a FIR lamp.

It would make sense to treat the abdomen just prior to eating. Probably would

help to drink some hot water just before eating, too.

Or is all this too simple and low-tech? The massage has helped everything so

much! (Going for my weekly today.)

Adrienne

Re: Intestinal permeability test normal, why all

the food sensivities?

Hi,

I am also interested in any responses to this problem

I also have become more and more sensitive to most foods, but, I

probably do have leaky gut. The foods I usually can eat sometimes

become like poison. Many foods not only cause various symptoms but

also crash my adrenals.

I keep thinking of Dr. Cheney's cascade toward a heart

transplant. He said that the only foods he could eat were pineapple

and one other food.

I have already had problems indicative of malfunctioning organs -

skin, adrenals and kidneys already affected, now the digestion. So i

wonder if this is a manisfestation of what Dr. Cheney describes as

lack of blood flow to the intestines - hence, lack of digestion.

It seems that no matter what I try - digestive enzymes,

probiotics, organic easy to digest food - this issue does not

correct itself. (I also have problems taking enzymes and probiotics

like Per).

What is left to consider but Dr. Cheney's postulates regarding

the gradual malfunctioning of the whole body? I just don't know.

> Hi, anyone have any idea of which mechanism cause these incredible

> food/chemical sensitivities? My intestinal permeability test was

normal.

>

> I have had inconclusive tests regarding yeast. I have had medium

to high

> dysbiosis risk. Severe intolerance of probiotics.

>

> What do you think? Are the food sensitivities caused by viral or

> bacterial infection ? or inborn genetic problems in metabolism, or

> even stuff like mercury wiping out enzymes or candida, but why then

> the normal integrity of the gut, I thought LGS was a major culprit

in

> the disease mechanism.

>

> Per

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Adrienne,

Thanks for your input. I do believe that most solutions are

usually so simple. These are good ideas. would you believe I'm a

massage therapist - glad you are having such help from your massages!

You gave me an idea. There are Thera wraps for backaches. I used

one once and the heat was wonderful. I'll bet they would help used

on the abdomen. I'm going to give it a try.

> > Hi, anyone have any idea of which mechanism cause these

incredible

> > food/chemical sensitivities? My intestinal permeability test

was

> normal.

> >

> > I have had inconclusive tests regarding yeast. I have had

medium

> to high

> > dysbiosis risk. Severe intolerance of probiotics.

> >

> > What do you think? Are the food sensitivities caused by viral

or

> > bacterial infection ? or inborn genetic problems in

metabolism, or

> > even stuff like mercury wiping out enzymes or candida, but why

then

> > the normal integrity of the gut, I thought LGS was a major

culprit

> in

> > the disease mechanism.

> >

> > Per

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Tummy skin is tender.

Adrienne

Re: Intestinal permeability test normal, why all

the food sensivities?

Adrienne,

Thanks for your input. I do believe that most solutions are

usually so simple. These are good ideas. would you believe I'm a

massage therapist - glad you are having such help from your massages!

You gave me an idea. There are Thera wraps for backaches. I used

one once and the heat was wonderful. I'll bet they would help used

on the abdomen. I'm going to give it a try.

> > Hi, anyone have any idea of which mechanism cause these

incredible

> > food/chemical sensitivities? My intestinal permeability test

was

> normal.

> >

> > I have had inconclusive tests regarding yeast. I have had

medium

> to high

> > dysbiosis risk. Severe intolerance of probiotics.

> >

> > What do you think? Are the food sensitivities caused by viral

or

> > bacterial infection ? or inborn genetic problems in

metabolism, or

> > even stuff like mercury wiping out enzymes or candida, but why

then

> > the normal integrity of the gut, I thought LGS was a major

culprit

> in

> > the disease mechanism.

> >

> > Per

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I too have many severe sensitivities,

but no leaky gut on the Mannitol test for it.

I have been having to deal with these

perplexing symptoms for well over a decade

with no firm diagnosis.

I have noticed that these types of problems

seem prominent in a subset of CFS type patients.

Things that have helped me over the years

have been:

- Cavitation surgery

- Pressure cooker

- Attention to food sensitivities

- Cook almost all food well done

- Vegetable juices (raw)

- Anti-histamines

- Digestive Enzymes (Digest Gold Enzymedica)

- (Possibly) some mold remediation

That's quite a list, but some of the items are easy to access.

I once was over 200 pounds with less than 10% body fat.

I was quite fit. Over the years " CFS " gradually whittled me

down to under 110 pounds. I was skin and bones at 6 feet tall.

Three cavitation surgeries turned my case around in less than

24 hours. No kidding. I went from eathing only three foods,

to a more expanded (but still very limited) diet. Later, mold

remediation helped some in this process. I gained 40 pounds in

about 5 years.

The last two years I have started getting serious with anti-

histamines, as my case so closely resembles some form of

Mastocytosis. This calmed my gut down immensely ! I have since

learned that researchers are looking seriously at anti-histamines

for their role in managing inflammatory gut diseases.

The anti-histamines then have allowed me to take the Digest Gold

Enzymes. From the very first dose of Digest Gold, the very first

dose, my digestion was MUCH better. I have subsequently gained 40

pounds in two years (!) If you had told me two years ago that

I would go from 140 to 180, and have much less gut problems, I would

have laughed in your face. But it has happened.

With this said, I still have many food and gut issues. I cannot

stray from my limited diet. So, I am still a seeker too.

If you look at all the problems people with Mastocytosis have,

and how poorly understood that condition is, then you will see

we still have a LOT to understand about the health of the gut,

much less the whole body. I have a friend with CFS, who doesn't

post here, who was hospitilized for near starvation two years

ago. They couldn't find anything wrong with her. Nothing.

She still survives on only yogurt and raspberries

(and those only from specific companies).

In summation, I read the chapter in " Mold Warriors "

that mentioned just today, by conincidence. I

think Dr. Shoemaker has something to add to this puzzle

(not to mention all the very depressing documentation on

on the biological effect of mold contaminated feed on animals

paid for by our tax dollars)

Hope this helps a little.

Zippy

[Guest guest]

Have you looked at food allergies??

Janet

bhp355 <zippy890@...> wrote:

I too have many severe sensitivities,

but no leaky gut on the Mannitol test for it.

I have been having to deal with these

perplexing symptoms for well over a decade

with no firm diagnosis.

I have noticed that these types of problems

seem prominent in a subset of CFS type patients.

Things that have helped me over the years

have been:

- Cavitation surgery

- Pressure cooker

- Attention to food sensitivities

- Cook almost all food well done

- Vegetable juices (raw)

- Anti-histamines

- Digestive Enzymes (Digest Gold Enzymedica)

- (Possibly) some mold remediation

That's quite a list, but some of the items are easy to access.

I once was over 200 pounds with less than 10% body fat.

I was quite fit. Over the years " CFS " gradually whittled me

down to under 110 pounds. I was skin and bones at 6 feet tall.

Three cavitation surgeries turned my case around in less than

24 hours. No kidding. I went from eathing only three foods,

to a more expanded (but still very limited) diet. Later, mold

remediation helped some in this process. I gained 40 pounds in

about 5 years.

The last two years I have started getting serious with anti-

histamines, as my case so closely resembles some form of

Mastocytosis. This calmed my gut down immensely ! I have since

learned that researchers are looking seriously at anti-histamines

for their role in managing inflammatory gut diseases.

The anti-histamines then have allowed me to take the Digest Gold

Enzymes. From the very first dose of Digest Gold, the very first

dose, my digestion was MUCH better. I have subsequently gained 40

pounds in two years (!) If you had told me two years ago that

I would go from 140 to 180, and have much less gut problems, I would

have laughed in your face. But it has happened.

With this said, I still have many food and gut issues. I cannot

stray from my limited diet. So, I am still a seeker too.

If you look at all the problems people with Mastocytosis have,

and how poorly understood that condition is, then you will see

we still have a LOT to understand about the health of the gut,

much less the whole body. I have a friend with CFS, who doesn't

post here, who was hospitilized for near starvation two years

ago. They couldn't find anything wrong with her. Nothing.

She still survives on only yogurt and raspberries

(and those only from specific companies).

In summation, I read the chapter in " Mold Warriors "

that mentioned just today, by conincidence. I

think Dr. Shoemaker has something to add to this puzzle

(not to mention all the very depressing documentation on

on the biological effect of mold contaminated feed on animals

paid for by our tax dollars)

Hope this helps a little.

Zippy

[Guest guest]

Zippy,

This is very helpful.

I have had eighteen cavitations in my jaw. These have been

treated. And I have had mold remediation done. (This may not be

perfect - but, the best I can do).

When I first got sick I had food allergies tested by the ACT,

the best at the time, and I was only allergic to about 25 items. I

have avoided these. Yet, after 23 1/2 years I react to most foods

now.

I eat only warm foods, mostly slowly cooked. Haven't been able

to juice yet, makes me very cold.

Would you share what anti-histamines you have found helpful? I

would like to try using them and will get the Digest Gold. My

nutritionist has had me on histadine. I haven't kept up with it but,

will make sure I take it now.

Did you have a test for mastocytosis? It seems this may be a

situation where you don't need the actual test but treat " as if "

anyway. These gut issues are certainly an overreaction or hyper-

reaction.

I'll read more about mastocytosis and reread Dr. Shoemaker's

work.

Thanks so much for sharing. You give me some hope.

>

> I too have many severe sensitivities,

> but no leaky gut on the Mannitol test for it.

> I have been having to deal with these

> perplexing symptoms for well over a decade

> with no firm diagnosis.

>

> I have noticed that these types of problems

> seem prominent in a subset of CFS type patients.

>

> Things that have helped me over the years

> have been:

>

> - Cavitation surgery

> - Pressure cooker

> - Attention to food sensitivities

> - Cook almost all food well done

> - Vegetable juices (raw)

> - Anti-histamines

> - Digestive Enzymes (Digest Gold Enzymedica)

> - (Possibly) some mold remediation

>

> That's quite a list, but some of the items are easy to access.

>

> I once was over 200 pounds with less than 10% body fat.

> I was quite fit. Over the years " CFS " gradually whittled me

> down to under 110 pounds. I was skin and bones at 6 feet tall.

> Three cavitation surgeries turned my case around in less than

> 24 hours. No kidding. I went from eathing only three foods,

> to a more expanded (but still very limited) diet. Later, mold

> remediation helped some in this process. I gained 40 pounds in

> about 5 years.

>

> The last two years I have started getting serious with anti-

> histamines, as my case so closely resembles some form of

> Mastocytosis. This calmed my gut down immensely ! I have since

> learned that researchers are looking seriously at anti-histamines

> for their role in managing inflammatory gut diseases.

>

> The anti-histamines then have allowed me to take the Digest Gold

> Enzymes. From the very first dose of Digest Gold, the very first

> dose, my digestion was MUCH better. I have subsequently gained 40

> pounds in two years (!) If you had told me two years ago that

> I would go from 140 to 180, and have much less gut problems, I

would

> have laughed in your face. But it has happened.

>

> With this said, I still have many food and gut issues. I cannot

> stray from my limited diet. So, I am still a seeker too.

>

> If you look at all the problems people with Mastocytosis have,

> and how poorly understood that condition is, then you will see

> we still have a LOT to understand about the health of the gut,

> much less the whole body. I have a friend with CFS, who doesn't

> post here, who was hospitilized for near starvation two years

> ago. They couldn't find anything wrong with her. Nothing.

> She still survives on only yogurt and raspberries

> (and those only from specific companies).

>

> In summation, I read the chapter in " Mold Warriors "

> that mentioned just today, by conincidence. I

> think Dr. Shoemaker has something to add to this puzzle

> (not to mention all the very depressing documentation on

> on the biological effect of mold contaminated feed on animals

> paid for by our tax dollars)

>

> Hope this helps a little.

> Zippy

>