Re: Mold - difficult to leave behind

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I am asking this question you just to make sure I have understood you

correctly.There is a flat that had mold at bathroom about three years ago.

Than it dried,re painted. Is not proper for mold sensitive person to move

there at this moment.

Also I have a therapist that I have to visit once every week.She has moldy

smell at her house.It has been about two months since she moved there and

since that time I am having runny,stuffy nose,slight fever,cough,etc. My

symptoms

never goes away.I was thinking I had a cold but lately I started wondering

if this is a mold reaction.I stay there about two hours. Only once a week.

Would you think this could be mold reaction. How long it might take mold

reaction to clear out from the body?

thanks very much.

Nil

Mold - difficult to leave behind

> Just got a message from a non-CFSer who I helped move out of a moldy

> place several years ago. We got rid of most of his stuff, but it

> didn't seem like the workbenches would be a problem, as they didn't

> appear bad and were going to be used in an open warehouse with lots of

>

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" yildiz " < wrote:

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> I am asking this question you just to make sure I have understood

you correctly.There is a flat that had mold at bathroom about three

years ago. Than it dried,re painted. Is not proper for mold sensitive

person to move there at this moment.

> Also I have a therapist that I have to visit once every week.She

has moldy smell at her house.It has been about two months since she

moved there and since that time I am having runny,stuffy nose,slight

fever,cough,etc. My symptoms never goes away.I was thinking I had a

cold but lately I started wondering if this is a mold reaction.I stay

there about two hours. Only once a week. Would you think this could

be mold reaction. How long it might take mold reaction to clear out

from the body?

> thanks very much.

>

> Nil

The reason people can't " see " mold illness right before their eyes,

is that they " think allergy " .

The conventional mental concept of an antigen which induces

an " allergic response " which can be easily " left behind " is SO FIRMLY

FIXED that when the phenomenon doesn't fit the model, it's discarded

as " Can't be mold " .

Well, it takes a long time, getting beaten over the head, again and

again by this " response " until you start screaming " WAIT A MINUTE!

THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LEFT HERE BUT MOLD! "

Then you start to look into it some more, and discover that in

addition to being an allergen, some molds can produce toxins which do

the most amazing things. They literally shut off the " damping down

effects " of anti-inflammatory cytokines, which " test " your bodies

response to see how much inflammation is appropriate for the

situation.

So to answer your question, if your immunological 'damping'

mechanisms have been switched off by continued upregulation, dictated

by the duration of inflammation that has been over-riding the ability

of the immune system to calm itself down - there is no " time limit "

for toxins to clear the body as the problem is no longer linked to

the amount of the toxins.

What you are dealing with now is a self perpetuating cytokine

cascade that has NOTHING to switch it off again.

Beyond a certain threshold of immune upregulation, a few stray toxin

molecules will keep this cascade going endlessly.

I remember in '98, talking with a CFS support group leader in

Sacramento who knew about a location which was so bad that she drove

twenty miles out of her way to avoid it, for she knew from bitter

experience that simply passing through it momentarily would keep her

blazingly ill for weeks afterward.

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