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Secret report reveals 18 child deaths following vaccinationsBeezy Marsh, Health Correspondent(Filed: 12/02/2006)

Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for the Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

Dr Halvorsen

The controversial jab has been beset by fears of a link to autism and bowel disease, although since its introduction in 1998, yearly deaths from measles have fallen from 16 to zero, while the jab against meningitis C is thought to save 50 lives a year.

The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details how one baby suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003. Two more infants were reported to have died after having the MMR jab in 2001, but the cause of death in both cases was unknown.

After the death of a child who developed meningitis and swelling of the brain three weeks after an MMR jab in 2004, a claim for compensation was made by the child's parents. It is not known if this was successful.

Six fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001 and 2003. The deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough and reported to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA). They include a baby who died from a heart attack. Another died after a polio jab.

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby becomes floppy like a "rag doll" - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

Medics raised the alarm under the MHRA "yellow card" warning system, set up to monitor suspected adverse drug reactions. Although making such a report does not prove that vaccination caused death or injury, it means that doctors fear it may have played a part.

Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, which concluded that no significant safety issues were identified.

Details of the document, which emerged after a request under the Freedom of Information Act, come amid fears of "vaccine overload" due to a rise in the number of jabs given to infants.

The Department of Health last week announced the introduction of a new jab against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly strain of meningitis, in addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can cause meningitis. This means that by the time a child is two he will have had 25 vaccinations, although some will be given in five-in-one or three-in-one combinations.

Dr Halvorsen, a general practitioner who runs a private single jabs clinic at Holborn Medical Centre in London, said: "We know vaccines have potential side effects, but this does not mean that children died as a result of MMR or other jabs. However, it is not insignificant because these are reports from health professionals who suspect an adverse vaccination reaction."

Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and serious side effects could be much greater. Dr , the former editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: "For fatalities, it is probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side effects one in 10."

This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred following jabs between 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse reactions.

Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial College London, said parents should not be alarmed by the report's findings.

"A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable," he said. "It may be that someone had an infection before they got a jab, it may be something in their genetic make-up or sometimes there are allergic reactions. But vaccines are extraordinarily safe compared to the diseases they prevent."

Overall, thousands of lives have been saved by childhood immunisation. Smallpox and polio have been eradicated.

A spokesman from the Department of Health said: "Immunisation programmes are regularly reviewed to ensure that all children have the best possible protection."

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I wonder, sometimes, if that's like saying " guns are extraordinarily safe

compared to the

crimes they prevent! "

Looking back... I'd have rathered run the risk of my child getting measles than

the chronic

measles virus infection my daughter's been harboring in her gut all these

years... along

with Rubella and Herpes viruses... her titers are too high.

And don't get me started on her mercury levels...

It will be a long time before I trust vaccines again...

>

> " A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable, " he said. " It may be that

> someone had an infection before they got a jab, it may be something in their

> genetic make-up or sometimes there are allergic reactions. But vaccines are

> extraordinarily safe compared to the diseases they prevent. "

>

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VERY GOOD. for ANALYTIC REVIEW of ALL SCIENTIFIC PAPERS, PRO AND CON, SEE HAZARDS OF

Vaccines 2, Internat. J. Clin. Invest. 13, p 1-4, 2005

Sincerely H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

864-592-8076

From: " Cregar" <diana.cregar@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Secret report reveals 18 child deaths following vaccinationsDate: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:05:19 -0500Secret report reveals 18 child deaths following vaccinationsBeezy Marsh, Health Correspondent(Filed: 12/02/2006)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/12/nmmr12.xml & sSheet=/news/2006/02/12/ixhome.htmlThis means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred following jabsbetween 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse reactions.Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial College London,said parents should not be alarmed by the report's findings."A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable," he said. "It may be thatsomeone had an infection before they got a jab, it may be something in theirgenetic make-up or sometimes there are allergic reactions. But vaccines areextraordinarily safe compared to the diseases they prevent."13 February 2006'VACCINE LINK' TO 18 DEAD TOTSBy http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16696993 & method=full & siteid=94762 & headline=-vaccine-link--to-18-dead-tots--name_page.htmlBut it is feared there could have been up to 40 deaths and 8,000 cases ofserious reaction to jabs.Two tots died of unknown causes, one was a cot death and a fourth developedmeningitis after MMR vaccinations in 2001-2004.There were six fatalities following meningitis C vaccinations in 2001-2003.The deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined vaccines againstdiphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough. Another baby died after a polio jab.The fatalities emerged in a secret government report seen under the Freedomof Information Act.Suspecting the toll is higher , ex-editor of the Adverse DrugReactions journal, said: "Probably only one in two fatalities and one in 10side-effects are reported."The Health Department said: "Children have the best possible protection."

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REMEMBER THE EPIDEMIC of GUILLAIN bARRE SYNDROME ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO? CAUSE THE SWINE FLU VACCINE.

Sincerely H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

864-592-8076

From: " Cregar" <diana.cregar@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Secret report reveals 18 child deaths following vaccinationsDate: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:05:19 -0500Secret report reveals 18 child deaths following vaccinationsBeezy Marsh, Health Correspondent(Filed: 12/02/2006)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/12/nmmr12.xml & sSheet=/news/2006/02/12/ixhome.htmlThis means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred following jabsbetween 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse reactions.Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial College London,said parents should not be alarmed by the report's findings."A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable," he said. "It may be thatsomeone had an infection before they got a jab, it may be something in theirgenetic make-up or sometimes there are allergic reactions. But vaccines areextraordinarily safe compared to the diseases they prevent."13 February 2006'VACCINE LINK' TO 18 DEAD TOTSBy http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16696993 & method=full & siteid=94762 & headline=-vaccine-link--to-18-dead-tots--name_page.htmlBut it is feared there could have been up to 40 deaths and 8,000 cases ofserious reaction to jabs.Two tots died of unknown causes, one was a cot death and a fourth developedmeningitis after MMR vaccinations in 2001-2004.There were six fatalities following meningitis C vaccinations in 2001-2003.The deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined vaccines againstdiphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough. Another baby died after a polio jab.The fatalities emerged in a secret government report seen under the Freedomof Information Act.Suspecting the toll is higher , ex-editor of the Adverse DrugReactions journal, said: "Probably only one in two fatalities and one in 10side-effects are reported."The Health Department said: "Children have the best possible protection."

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Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood vaccinations in just

four years, a secret Government report reveals.

Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the measles,

mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents prepared for the

Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

The controversial jab has been beset by fears of a link to autism and bowel

disease, although since its introduction in 1998, yearly deaths from measles

have fallen from 16 to zero, while the jab against meningitis C is thought to

save 50 lives a year.

The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details how one baby

suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003. Two more infants were

reported to have died after having the MMR jab in 2001, but the cause of death

in both cases was unknown.

After the death of a child who developed meningitis and swelling of the brain

three weeks after an MMR jab in 2004, a claim for compensation was made by the

child's parents. It is not known if this was successful.

Six fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001 and 2003. The

deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined vaccines against

diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough and reported to the Medicines and

Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA). They include a baby who died from

a heart attack. Another died after a polio jab.

Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood vaccination -

including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby becomes floppy like a " rag

doll " - were also made, including 160 for MMR.

Medics raised the alarm under the MHRA " yellow card " warning system, set up to

monitor suspected adverse drug reactions. Although making such a report does not

prove that vaccination caused death or injury, it means that doctors fear it may

have played a part.

Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and

Immunisation, which concluded that no significant safety issues were identified.

Details of the document, which emerged after a request under the Freedom of

Information Act, come amid fears of " vaccine overload " due to a rise in the

number of jabs given to infants.

The Department of Health last week announced the introduction of a new jab

against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly strain of meningitis, in

addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can cause meningitis. This means

that by the time a child is two he will have had 25 vaccinations, although some

will be given in five-in-one or three-in-one combinations.

Dr Halvorsen, a general practitioner who runs a private single jabs

clinic at Holborn Medical Centre in London, said: " We know vaccines have

potential side effects, but this does not mean that children died as a result of

MMR or other jabs. However, it is not insignificant because these are reports

from health professionals who suspect an adverse vaccination reaction. "

Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected fatalities and

serious side effects could be much greater. Dr , the former editor

of the medical journal Adverse Drug Reactions, said: " For fatalities, it is

probably only one in two which gets reported and for other side effects one in

10. "

This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred following jabs between

2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse reactions.

Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial College London, said

parents should not be alarmed by the report's findings. (YEAH RIGHT!!)

" A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable, " he said. " It may be that

someone had an infection before they got a jab, it may be something in their

genetic make-up or sometimes there are allergic reactions. But vaccines are

extraordinarily safe compared to the diseases they prevent. "

Overall, thousands of lives have been saved by childhood immunisation. Smallpox

and polio have been eradicated.

A spokesman from the Department of Health said: " Immunisation programmes are

regularly reviewed to ensure that all children have the best possible

protection. "

DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION

Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! TAAP (The Autism

Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity dedicated to obtaining funding

for independent research into the cause, treatment and prevention of autism

and other autoimmune disorders. Please learn from our mistake and 'Educate

BEFORE You Vaccinate!' For more information visit our website at

www.TAAP.info and 'TAAP into the Truth!'

TRAVEL FOR TAAP:

http://www.ytbtravel.com/travelfortaap

Book your travel here & proceeds are donated to TAAP!

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Yes, but the government is not forcing anyone to ride in cars.

That's still our choice.

AND, they are not publicly telling us the dead and mangled bodies

are the result of a genetic predisposition, and that riding in a car

is still safer than walking.

; )

> http://health.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?

xml=/health/2006/02/13/nmmr12.xml

>

>

> Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood

vaccinations in just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

>

> Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the

measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents

prepared for the Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

>

> The controversial jab has been beset by fears of a link to autism

and bowel disease, although since its introduction in 1998, yearly

deaths from measles have fallen from 16 to zero, while the jab

against meningitis C is thought to save 50 lives a year.

>

> The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details how

one baby suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003. Two

more infants were reported to have died after having the MMR jab in

2001, but the cause of death in both cases was unknown.

>

> After the death of a child who developed meningitis and swelling

of the brain three weeks after an MMR jab in 2004, a claim for

compensation was made by the child's parents. It is not known if

this was successful.

>

> Six fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001 and

2003. The deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined

vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough and reported

to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

They include a baby who died from a heart attack. Another died after

a polio jab.

>

> Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood

vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby

becomes floppy like a " rag doll " - were also made, including 160 for

MMR.

>

> Medics raised the alarm under the MHRA " yellow card " warning

system, set up to monitor suspected adverse drug reactions. Although

making such a report does not prove that vaccination caused death or

injury, it means that doctors fear it may have played a part.

>

> Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on

Vaccination and Immunisation, which concluded that no significant

safety issues were identified.

>

> Details of the document, which emerged after a request under the

Freedom of Information Act, come amid fears of " vaccine overload "

due to a rise in the number of jabs given to infants.

>

> The Department of Health last week announced the introduction of a

new jab against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly strain

of meningitis, in addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can

cause meningitis. This means that by the time a child is two he will

have had 25 vaccinations, although some will be given in five-in-one

or three-in-one combinations.

>

> Dr Halvorsen, a general practitioner who runs a private

single jabs clinic at Holborn Medical Centre in London, said: " We

know vaccines have potential side effects, but this does not mean

that children died as a result of MMR or other jabs. However, it is

not insignificant because these are reports from health

professionals who suspect an adverse vaccination reaction. "

>

> Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected

fatalities and serious side effects could be much greater. Dr

, the former editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug

Reactions, said: " For fatalities, it is probably only one in two

which gets reported and for other side effects one in 10. "

>

> This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred

following jabs between 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse

reactions.

>

> Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial College

London, said parents should not be alarmed by the report's findings.

(YEAH RIGHT!!)

>

> " A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable, " he said. " It

may be that someone had an infection before they got a jab, it may

be something in their genetic make-up or sometimes there are

allergic reactions. But vaccines are extraordinarily safe compared

to the diseases they prevent. "

>

> Overall, thousands of lives have been saved by childhood

immunisation. Smallpox and polio have been eradicated.

>

> A spokesman from the Department of Health said: " Immunisation

programmes are regularly reviewed to ensure that all children have

the best possible protection. "

>

> DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION

> Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! TAAP (The

Autism

> Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity dedicated to

obtaining funding

> for independent research into the cause, treatment and prevention

of autism

> and other autoimmune disorders. Please learn from our mistake

and 'Educate

> BEFORE You Vaccinate!' For more information visit our website at

> www.TAAP.info and 'TAAP into the Truth!'

>

> TRAVEL FOR TAAP:

> http://www.ytbtravel.com/travelfortaap

> Book your travel here & proceeds are donated to TAAP!

>

>

>

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You are correct that the gov't does not force travel, but they force licenses,

which is involuntary servitude among other violations of human dignities...

<moregymplz@...> wrote: Yes, but the government is not forcing

anyone to ride in cars.

That's still our choice.

AND, they are not publicly telling us the dead and mangled bodies

are the result of a genetic predisposition, and that riding in a car

is still safer than walking.

; )

> http://health.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?

xml=/health/2006/02/13/nmmr12.xml

>

>

> Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood

vaccinations in just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

>

> Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the

measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents

prepared for the Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

>

> The controversial jab has been beset by fears of a link to autism

and bowel disease, although since its introduction in 1998, yearly

deaths from measles have fallen from 16 to zero, while the jab

against meningitis C is thought to save 50 lives a year.

>

> The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details how

one baby suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003. Two

more infants were reported to have died after having the MMR jab in

2001, but the cause of death in both cases was unknown.

>

> After the death of a child who developed meningitis and swelling

of the brain three weeks after an MMR jab in 2004, a claim for

compensation was made by the child's parents. It is not known if

this was successful.

>

> Six fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001 and

2003. The deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined

vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough and reported

to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

They include a baby who died from a heart attack. Another died after

a polio jab.

>

> Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood

vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby

becomes floppy like a " rag doll " - were also made, including 160 for

MMR.

>

> Medics raised the alarm under the MHRA " yellow card " warning

system, set up to monitor suspected adverse drug reactions. Although

making such a report does not prove that vaccination caused death or

injury, it means that doctors fear it may have played a part.

>

> Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on

Vaccination and Immunisation, which concluded that no significant

safety issues were identified.

>

> Details of the document, which emerged after a request under the

Freedom of Information Act, come amid fears of " vaccine overload "

due to a rise in the number of jabs given to infants.

>

> The Department of Health last week announced the introduction of a

new jab against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly strain

of meningitis, in addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can

cause meningitis. This means that by the time a child is two he will

have had 25 vaccinations, although some will be given in five-in-one

or three-in-one combinations.

>

> Dr Halvorsen, a general practitioner who runs a private

single jabs clinic at Holborn Medical Centre in London, said: " We

know vaccines have potential side effects, but this does not mean

that children died as a result of MMR or other jabs. However, it is

not insignificant because these are reports from health

professionals who suspect an adverse vaccination reaction. "

>

> Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected

fatalities and serious side effects could be much greater. Dr

, the former editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug

Reactions, said: " For fatalities, it is probably only one in two

which gets reported and for other side effects one in 10. "

>

> This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred

following jabs between 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse

reactions.

>

> Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial College

London, said parents should not be alarmed by the report's findings.

(YEAH RIGHT!!)

>

> " A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable, " he said. " It

may be that someone had an infection before they got a jab, it may

be something in their genetic make-up or sometimes there are

allergic reactions. But vaccines are extraordinarily safe compared

to the diseases they prevent. "

>

> Overall, thousands of lives have been saved by childhood

immunisation. Smallpox and polio have been eradicated.

>

> A spokesman from the Department of Health said: " Immunisation

programmes are regularly reviewed to ensure that all children have

the best possible protection. "

>

> DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION

> Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! TAAP (The

Autism

> Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity dedicated to

obtaining funding

> for independent research into the cause, treatment and prevention

of autism

> and other autoimmune disorders. Please learn from our mistake

and 'Educate

> BEFORE You Vaccinate!' For more information visit our website at

> www.TAAP.info and 'TAAP into the Truth!'

>

> TRAVEL FOR TAAP:

> http://www.ytbtravel.com/travelfortaap

> Book your travel here & proceeds are donated to TAAP!

>

>

>

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> You are correct that the gov't does not force travel, but they

force licenses, which is involuntary servitude among other

violations of human dignities...

Yeah, like using those cameras that are incapable of taking a decent

photograph, and being forced to show that unflattering photo to

attractive law enforcement officers for minor traffic violations...

UNFAIR! ; )

Sorry, just kidding, you're probably right... I'm swamped at work

and in a mood today...

(who will obey all traffic laws all the way home until that picture

is changed)

>

> <moregymplz@...> wrote: Yes, but the government is not

forcing anyone to ride in cars.

> That's still our choice.

>

> AND, they are not publicly telling us the dead and mangled bodies

> are the result of a genetic predisposition, and that riding in a

car

> is still safer than walking.

>

> ; )

>

>

>

> > http://health.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?

> xml=/health/2006/02/13/nmmr12.xml

> >

> >

> > Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood

> vaccinations in just four years, a secret Government report

reveals.

> >

> > Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to

the

> measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to

documents

> prepared for the Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

> >

> > The controversial jab has been beset by fears of a link to

autism

> and bowel disease, although since its introduction in 1998, yearly

> deaths from measles have fallen from 16 to zero, while the jab

> against meningitis C is thought to save 50 lives a year.

> >

> > The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details

how

> one baby suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003.

Two

> more infants were reported to have died after having the MMR jab

in

> 2001, but the cause of death in both cases was unknown.

> >

> > After the death of a child who developed meningitis and swelling

> of the brain three weeks after an MMR jab in 2004, a claim for

> compensation was made by the child's parents. It is not known if

> this was successful.

> >

> > Six fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001

and

> 2003. The deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined

> vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough and

reported

> to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

> They include a baby who died from a heart attack. Another died

after

> a polio jab.

> >

> > Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood

> vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the

baby

> becomes floppy like a " rag doll " - were also made, including 160

for

> MMR.

> >

> > Medics raised the alarm under the MHRA " yellow card " warning

> system, set up to monitor suspected adverse drug reactions.

Although

> making such a report does not prove that vaccination caused death

or

> injury, it means that doctors fear it may have played a part.

> >

> > Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on

> Vaccination and Immunisation, which concluded that no significant

> safety issues were identified.

> >

> > Details of the document, which emerged after a request under the

> Freedom of Information Act, come amid fears of " vaccine overload "

> due to a rise in the number of jabs given to infants.

> >

> > The Department of Health last week announced the introduction of

a

> new jab against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly strain

> of meningitis, in addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can

> cause meningitis. This means that by the time a child is two he

will

> have had 25 vaccinations, although some will be given in five-in-

one

> or three-in-one combinations.

> >

> > Dr Halvorsen, a general practitioner who runs a private

> single jabs clinic at Holborn Medical Centre in London, said: " We

> know vaccines have potential side effects, but this does not mean

> that children died as a result of MMR or other jabs. However, it

is

> not insignificant because these are reports from health

> professionals who suspect an adverse vaccination reaction. "

> >

> > Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected

> fatalities and serious side effects could be much greater. Dr

> , the former editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug

> Reactions, said: " For fatalities, it is probably only one in two

> which gets reported and for other side effects one in 10. "

> >

> > This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred

> following jabs between 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse

> reactions.

> >

> > Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial

College

> London, said parents should not be alarmed by the report's

findings.

> (YEAH RIGHT!!)

> >

> > " A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable, " he said. " It

> may be that someone had an infection before they got a jab, it may

> be something in their genetic make-up or sometimes there are

> allergic reactions. But vaccines are extraordinarily safe compared

> to the diseases they prevent. "

> >

> > Overall, thousands of lives have been saved by childhood

> immunisation. Smallpox and polio have been eradicated.

> >

> > A spokesman from the Department of Health said: " Immunisation

> programmes are regularly reviewed to ensure that all children have

> the best possible protection. "

> >

> > DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION

> > Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! TAAP (The

> Autism

> > Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity dedicated to

> obtaining funding

> > for independent research into the cause, treatment and

prevention

> of autism

> > and other autoimmune disorders. Please learn from our mistake

> and 'Educate

> > BEFORE You Vaccinate!' For more information visit our website at

> > www.TAAP.info and 'TAAP into the Truth!'

> >

> > TRAVEL FOR TAAP:

> > http://www.ytbtravel.com/travelfortaap

> > Book your travel here & proceeds are donated to TAAP!

> >

> >

> >

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Hmmm, maybe I should go back to my uniform? lol. Just kidding.

<moregymplz@...> wrote: > You are correct that the gov't does not

force travel, but they

force licenses, which is involuntary servitude among other

violations of human dignities...

Yeah, like using those cameras that are incapable of taking a decent

photograph, and being forced to show that unflattering photo to

attractive law enforcement officers for minor traffic violations...

UNFAIR! ; )

Sorry, just kidding, you're probably right... I'm swamped at work

and in a mood today...

(who will obey all traffic laws all the way home until that picture

is changed)

>

> wrote: Yes, but the government is not

forcing anyone to ride in cars.

> That's still our choice.

>

> AND, they are not publicly telling us the dead and mangled bodies

> are the result of a genetic predisposition, and that riding in a

car

> is still safer than walking.

>

> ; )

>

>

>

> > http://health.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?

> xml=/health/2006/02/13/nmmr12.xml

> >

> >

> > Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood

> vaccinations in just four years, a secret Government report

reveals.

> >

> > Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to

the

> measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to

documents

> prepared for the Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

> >

> > The controversial jab has been beset by fears of a link to

autism

> and bowel disease, although since its introduction in 1998, yearly

> deaths from measles have fallen from 16 to zero, while the jab

> against meningitis C is thought to save 50 lives a year.

> >

> > The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details

how

> one baby suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003.

Two

> more infants were reported to have died after having the MMR jab

in

> 2001, but the cause of death in both cases was unknown.

> >

> > After the death of a child who developed meningitis and swelling

> of the brain three weeks after an MMR jab in 2004, a claim for

> compensation was made by the child's parents. It is not known if

> this was successful.

> >

> > Six fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001

and

> 2003. The deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined

> vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough and

reported

> to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

> They include a baby who died from a heart attack. Another died

after

> a polio jab.

> >

> > Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood

> vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the

baby

> becomes floppy like a " rag doll " - were also made, including 160

for

> MMR.

> >

> > Medics raised the alarm under the MHRA " yellow card " warning

> system, set up to monitor suspected adverse drug reactions.

Although

> making such a report does not prove that vaccination caused death

or

> injury, it means that doctors fear it may have played a part.

> >

> > Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on

> Vaccination and Immunisation, which concluded that no significant

> safety issues were identified.

> >

> > Details of the document, which emerged after a request under the

> Freedom of Information Act, come amid fears of " vaccine overload "

> due to a rise in the number of jabs given to infants.

> >

> > The Department of Health last week announced the introduction of

a

> new jab against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly strain

> of meningitis, in addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can

> cause meningitis. This means that by the time a child is two he

will

> have had 25 vaccinations, although some will be given in five-in-

one

> or three-in-one combinations.

> >

> > Dr Halvorsen, a general practitioner who runs a private

> single jabs clinic at Holborn Medical Centre in London, said: " We

> know vaccines have potential side effects, but this does not mean

> that children died as a result of MMR or other jabs. However, it

is

> not insignificant because these are reports from health

> professionals who suspect an adverse vaccination reaction. "

> >

> > Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected

> fatalities and serious side effects could be much greater. Dr

> , the former editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug

> Reactions, said: " For fatalities, it is probably only one in two

> which gets reported and for other side effects one in 10. "

> >

> > This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred

> following jabs between 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse

> reactions.

> >

> > Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial

College

> London, said parents should not be alarmed by the report's

findings.

> (YEAH RIGHT!!)

> >

> > " A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable, " he said. " It

> may be that someone had an infection before they got a jab, it may

> be something in their genetic make-up or sometimes there are

> allergic reactions. But vaccines are extraordinarily safe compared

> to the diseases they prevent. "

> >

> > Overall, thousands of lives have been saved by childhood

> immunisation. Smallpox and polio have been eradicated.

> >

> > A spokesman from the Department of Health said: " Immunisation

> programmes are regularly reviewed to ensure that all children have

> the best possible protection. "

> >

> > DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION

> > Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! TAAP (The

> Autism

> > Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity dedicated to

> obtaining funding

> > for independent research into the cause, treatment and

prevention

> of autism

> > and other autoimmune disorders. Please learn from our mistake

> and 'Educate

> > BEFORE You Vaccinate!' For more information visit our website at

> > www.TAAP.info and 'TAAP into the Truth!'

> >

> > TRAVEL FOR TAAP:

> > http://www.ytbtravel.com/travelfortaap

> > Book your travel here & proceeds are donated to TAAP!

> >

> >

> >

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Are you saying anyone should have the freedom to get behind the wheel of car? If

not, what do you mean by your comment below. Please explain how involuntary

servitude relates to obtaining a drivers license.

Thanks,

Anita

ben jackson <cranium_stretched@...> wrote:

You are correct that the gov't does not force travel, but they force licenses,

which is involuntary servitude among other violations of human dignities...

<moregymplz@...> wrote: Yes, but the government is not forcing

anyone to ride in cars.

That's still our choice.

AND, they are not publicly telling us the dead and mangled bodies

are the result of a genetic predisposition, and that riding in a car

is still safer than walking.

; )

> http://health.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?

xml=/health/2006/02/13/nmmr12.xml

>

>

> Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood

vaccinations in just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

>

> Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the

measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents

prepared for the Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

>

> The controversial jab has been beset by fears of a link to autism

and bowel disease, although since its introduction in 1998, yearly

deaths from measles have fallen from 16 to zero, while the jab

against meningitis C is thought to save 50 lives a year.

>

> The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details how

one baby suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003. Two

more infants were reported to have died after having the MMR jab in

2001, but the cause of death in both cases was unknown.

>

> After the death of a child who developed meningitis and swelling

of the brain three weeks after an MMR jab in 2004, a claim for

compensation was made by the child's parents. It is not known if

this was successful.

>

> Six fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001 and

2003. The deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined

vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough and reported

to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

They include a baby who died from a heart attack. Another died after

a polio jab.

>

> Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood

vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby

becomes floppy like a " rag doll " - were also made, including 160 for

MMR.

>

> Medics raised the alarm under the MHRA " yellow card " warning

system, set up to monitor suspected adverse drug reactions. Although

making such a report does not prove that vaccination caused death or

injury, it means that doctors fear it may have played a part.

>

> Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on

Vaccination and Immunisation, which concluded that no significant

safety issues were identified.

>

> Details of the document, which emerged after a request under the

Freedom of Information Act, come amid fears of " vaccine overload "

due to a rise in the number of jabs given to infants.

>

> The Department of Health last week announced the introduction of a

new jab against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly strain

of meningitis, in addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can

cause meningitis. This means that by the time a child is two he will

have had 25 vaccinations, although some will be given in five-in-one

or three-in-one combinations.

>

> Dr Halvorsen, a general practitioner who runs a private

single jabs clinic at Holborn Medical Centre in London, said: " We

know vaccines have potential side effects, but this does not mean

that children died as a result of MMR or other jabs. However, it is

not insignificant because these are reports from health

professionals who suspect an adverse vaccination reaction. "

>

> Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected

fatalities and serious side effects could be much greater. Dr

, the former editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug

Reactions, said: " For fatalities, it is probably only one in two

which gets reported and for other side effects one in 10. "

>

> This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred

following jabs between 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse

reactions.

>

> Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial College

London, said parents should not be alarmed by the report's findings.

(YEAH RIGHT!!)

>

> " A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable, " he said. " It

may be that someone had an infection before they got a jab, it may

be something in their genetic make-up or sometimes there are

allergic reactions. But vaccines are extraordinarily safe compared

to the diseases they prevent. "

>

> Overall, thousands of lives have been saved by childhood

immunisation. Smallpox and polio have been eradicated.

>

> A spokesman from the Department of Health said: " Immunisation

programmes are regularly reviewed to ensure that all children have

the best possible protection. "

>

> DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION

> Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! TAAP (The

Autism

> Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity dedicated to

obtaining funding

> for independent research into the cause, treatment and prevention

of autism

> and other autoimmune disorders. Please learn from our mistake

and 'Educate

> BEFORE You Vaccinate!' For more information visit our website at

> www.TAAP.info and 'TAAP into the Truth!'

>

> TRAVEL FOR TAAP:

> http://www.ytbtravel.com/travelfortaap

> Book your travel here & proceeds are donated to TAAP!

>

>

>

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That's what I'm saying. Of course, one would be responsible for their own

actions. I believe that a drivers license should be a one time issuance, until

one shows no responsibility, then, points are deducted until one has no points

at all. At that point, one cannot operate in commerce, or, in private capacity.

At this point and time, we are issued commercial licenses disguised as privately

issued. The DMV has no authority to make driving a privilege, it is a Right.

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote: Are you saying anyone should have the

freedom to get behind the wheel of car? If not, what do you mean by your comment

below. Please explain how involuntary servitude relates to obtaining a drivers

license.

Thanks,

Anita

ben jackson wrote:

You are correct that the gov't does not force travel, but they force licenses,

which is involuntary servitude among other violations of human dignities...

wrote: Yes, but the government is not forcing anyone to ride in cars.

That's still our choice.

AND, they are not publicly telling us the dead and mangled bodies

are the result of a genetic predisposition, and that riding in a car

is still safer than walking.

; )

> http://health.telegraph.co.uk/health/main.jhtml?

xml=/health/2006/02/13/nmmr12.xml

>

>

> Eighteen babies and toddlers have died following childhood

vaccinations in just four years, a secret Government report reveals.

>

> Four deaths have been linked to suspected adverse reactions to the

measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) triple jab, according to documents

prepared for the Government's expert advisers on immunisation.

>

> The controversial jab has been beset by fears of a link to autism

and bowel disease, although since its introduction in 1998, yearly

deaths from measles have fallen from 16 to zero, while the jab

against meningitis C is thought to save 50 lives a year.

>

> The report, covering the period between 2001 and 2004, details how

one baby suffered a cot death following MMR vaccination in 2003. Two

more infants were reported to have died after having the MMR jab in

2001, but the cause of death in both cases was unknown.

>

> After the death of a child who developed meningitis and swelling

of the brain three weeks after an MMR jab in 2004, a claim for

compensation was made by the child's parents. It is not known if

this was successful.

>

> Six fatalities followed meningitis C vaccinations between 2001 and

2003. The deaths of seven other babies were linked to combined

vaccines against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough and reported

to the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA).

They include a baby who died from a heart attack. Another died after

a polio jab.

>

> Almost 800 other reports of suspected complications of childhood

vaccination - including convulsions and hyptonia, in which the baby

becomes floppy like a " rag doll " - were also made, including 160 for

MMR.

>

> Medics raised the alarm under the MHRA " yellow card " warning

system, set up to monitor suspected adverse drug reactions. Although

making such a report does not prove that vaccination caused death or

injury, it means that doctors fear it may have played a part.

>

> Their reports were considered by the Joint Committee on

Vaccination and Immunisation, which concluded that no significant

safety issues were identified.

>

> Details of the document, which emerged after a request under the

Freedom of Information Act, come amid fears of " vaccine overload "

due to a rise in the number of jabs given to infants.

>

> The Department of Health last week announced the introduction of a

new jab against the pneumococcal bug, which causes a deadly strain

of meningitis, in addition to a booster for Hib disease, which can

cause meningitis. This means that by the time a child is two he will

have had 25 vaccinations, although some will be given in five-in-one

or three-in-one combinations.

>

> Dr Halvorsen, a general practitioner who runs a private

single jabs clinic at Holborn Medical Centre in London, said: " We

know vaccines have potential side effects, but this does not mean

that children died as a result of MMR or other jabs. However, it is

not insignificant because these are reports from health

professionals who suspect an adverse vaccination reaction. "

>

> Experts last night said that the true figures for suspected

fatalities and serious side effects could be much greater. Dr

, the former editor of the medical journal Adverse Drug

Reactions, said: " For fatalities, it is probably only one in two

which gets reported and for other side effects one in 10. "

>

> This means that almost 40 baby deaths could have occurred

following jabs between 2001 and 2004, and 8,000 serious adverse

reactions.

>

> Prof Openshaw, a leading immunologist from Imperial College

London, said parents should not be alarmed by the report's findings.

(YEAH RIGHT!!)

>

> " A lot of vaccine reactions are just inexplicable, " he said. " It

may be that someone had an infection before they got a jab, it may

be something in their genetic make-up or sometimes there are

allergic reactions. But vaccines are extraordinarily safe compared

to the diseases they prevent. "

>

> Overall, thousands of lives have been saved by childhood

immunisation. Smallpox and polio have been eradicated.

>

> A spokesman from the Department of Health said: " Immunisation

programmes are regularly reviewed to ensure that all children have

the best possible protection. "

>

> DEFINITION * TREATMENT * PREVENTION

> Autism is 1 in 150 children today, 1 in 68 families! TAAP (The

Autism

> Autoimmunity Project) is a non-profit charity dedicated to

obtaining funding

> for independent research into the cause, treatment and prevention

of autism

> and other autoimmune disorders. Please learn from our mistake

and 'Educate

> BEFORE You Vaccinate!' For more information visit our website at

> www.TAAP.info and 'TAAP into the Truth!'

>

> TRAVEL FOR TAAP:

> http://www.ytbtravel.com/travelfortaap

> Book your travel here & proceeds are donated to TAAP!

>

>

>

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One thousand apologies for not snipping my last post. :~(

Anita

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

Are you saying anyone should have the freedom to get behind the wheel of car?

If not, what do you mean by your comment below. Please explain how involuntary

servitude relates to obtaining a drivers license.

Thanks,

Anita

ben jackson <cranium_stretched@...> wrote:

You are correct that the gov't does not force travel, but they force licenses,

which is involuntary servitude among other violations of human dignities...

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Relax. virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

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LOL!! Anita, you are a breath of fresh air, dear. :o) Don't apologise to

me - I just whinge here....

Sue

>

> Shit, I did it again and to make matters worse, I didn't change

> the subject line. I'll do better Sue.....promise.

> Anita

>

> ben jackson <cranium_stretched@...> wrote:

> That's what I'm saying. Of course, one would be responsible

> for their own actions. I believe that a drivers license should

> be a one time issuance, until one shows no responsibility, then,

> points are deducted until one has no points at all. At that

> point, one cannot operate in commerce, or, in private capacity.

> At this point and time, we are issued commercial licenses

> disguised as privately issued. The DMV has no authority to make

> driving a privilege, it is a Right.

>

>

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