Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 The main problem that I have with all of this is that if Ritalin can cause a child with a damaged heart death, then what is it doing to the hearts of all of those kids with healthy ones? I still say, that it is a sad state of affairs when parents just drug their children instead of, ummm, parenting them, changing their diets, looking for other environmental contributors or even looking at what is going on in the schools. -- Sara Proud Mama to Colin 12/07/99 Jack 8/07/02 -------------- Original message -------------- From: " mum2mishka " <mum2mishka@...> http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,1707536,00.html Ritalin heart attacks warning urged after 51 deaths in US Move to highlight risks of drug prescribed to hyperactive children Boseley, health editor Saturday February 11, 2006 The Guardian Ritalin, extensively prescribed to calm hyperactive children in the UK, should carry the highest-level warning that it may increase the risk of death from heart attacks, US experts recommended yesterday. There have been 51 deaths among children and adults taking drugs for ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) in the US since 1999. Yesterday the UK licensing authority, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), said nine children had died in this country among a smaller population on medication. They declined to reveal the children's ages because of the possibility of identification. In the US, doctors write 2m prescriptions for ADHD drugs for children every month and 1m for adults. In the UK, nobody knows how many people are on the drugs, which are licensed for children as young as six - although there are reports of them being given to children as young as three. A total of 361,832 prescriptions were written last year for Ritalin and other drugs of the methylphenidate class, which averages 30,153 a month. The cause of death for two of the nine children who died in the UK was specifically heart-related: one had a heart attack and a second an enlarged heart. One was recorded as a " sudden death " . One died of a haemorrhage in the brain and another of a swelling in the brain, two committed suicide and the last died of neonatal respiratory distress syndrome - presumably the mother was on the drugs. The recommendation by an advisory panel of the Food and Drug Administration to put a " black box " warning - the most serious possible - on all ADHD drugs in the US is likely to be accepted. Pressure will mount now on the British authorities to warn publicly of the risk. There is growing concern about the rising numbers of children being put on drugs. This class of drugs, known as methylphenidates, are amphetamine-based and it is thought they could cause heart problems in some children and adults because they raise blood pressure. There is already a warning on the drug most widely used in the US, Adderall, which is not licensed in the UK. The FDA advisers said it was not certain the drugs contributed to the 51 deaths. " The data is only suggestive at this point, but because of the gravity of the side-effect, namely sudden death, physicians need to be made clearly aware of that concern, " said Dr Gross, the panel chairman and head of internal medicine at Hackensack University Medical Centre in New Jersey. One member of the panel was clear that he hoped the warning might slow down the soaring rate of prescription of the drugs to children who are inattentive or badly behaved at school. " I want to get people's hands to tremble a little bit before they write that [prescription], " said Nissen, a panel member and cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic. Dave Woodhouse, psychologist and director of the Cactus Clinic, attached to Teesside University, which offers parents an alternative to drugs in the form of nutritional guidance and counselling, said: " One of the main issues is that fact that in the case of a lot of kids given Ritalin you don't know if they have a heart condition or not. " There are three methylphenidate drugs licensed in the UK - the bestselling Ritalin, Concerta and Equasym. The MHRA said there had been 521 reports of suspected adverse drug reactions, most of them in the past five years as more children have been put on them. It added that methylphenidate " is recognised to cause cardiovascular adverse effects " , such as a racing or abnormal heartbeat and palpitations and increased blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Gee, almost as many deaths as the " bird flu epedemic " . Why isn't anyone panicking over this? Diane mum2mishka <mum2mishka@...> wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,1707536,00.html Ritalin heart attacks warning urged after 51 deaths in US Move to highlight risks of drug prescribed to hyperactive children Boseley, health editor Saturday February 11, 2006 The Guardian Ritalin, extensively prescribed to calm hyperactive children in the UK, should carry the highest-level warning that it may increase the risk of death from heart attacks, US experts recommended yesterday. There have been 51 deaths among children and adults taking drugs for ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) in the US since 1999. Yesterday the UK licensing authority, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), said nine children had died in this country among a smaller population on medication. They declined to reveal the children's ages because of the possibility of identification. In the US, doctors write 2m prescriptions for ADHD drugs for children every month and 1m for adults. In the UK, nobody knows how many people are on the drugs, which are licensed for children as young as six - although there are reports of them being given to children as young as three. A total of 361,832 prescriptions were written last year for Ritalin and other drugs of the methylphenidate class, which averages 30,153 a month. The cause of death for two of the nine children who died in the UK was specifically heart-related: one had a heart attack and a second an enlarged heart. One was recorded as a " sudden death " . One died of a haemorrhage in the brain and another of a swelling in the brain, two committed suicide and the last died of neonatal respiratory distress syndrome - presumably the mother was on the drugs. The recommendation by an advisory panel of the Food and Drug Administration to put a " black box " warning - the most serious possible - on all ADHD drugs in the US is likely to be accepted. Pressure will mount now on the British authorities to warn publicly of the risk. There is growing concern about the rising numbers of children being put on drugs. This class of drugs, known as methylphenidates, are amphetamine-based and it is thought they could cause heart problems in some children and adults because they raise blood pressure. There is already a warning on the drug most widely used in the US, Adderall, which is not licensed in the UK. The FDA advisers said it was not certain the drugs contributed to the 51 deaths. " The data is only suggestive at this point, but because of the gravity of the side-effect, namely sudden death, physicians need to be made clearly aware of that concern, " said Dr Gross, the panel chairman and head of internal medicine at Hackensack University Medical Centre in New Jersey. One member of the panel was clear that he hoped the warning might slow down the soaring rate of prescription of the drugs to children who are inattentive or badly behaved at school. " I want to get people's hands to tremble a little bit before they write that [prescription], " said Nissen, a panel member and cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic. Dave Woodhouse, psychologist and director of the Cactus Clinic, attached to Teesside University, which offers parents an alternative to drugs in the form of nutritional guidance and counselling, said: " One of the main issues is that fact that in the case of a lot of kids given Ritalin you don't know if they have a heart condition or not. " There are three methylphenidate drugs licensed in the UK - the bestselling Ritalin, Concerta and Equasym. The MHRA said there had been 521 reports of suspected adverse drug reactions, most of them in the past five years as more children have been put on them. It added that methylphenidate " is recognised to cause cardiovascular adverse effects " , such as a racing or abnormal heartbeat and palpitations and increased blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Gee, almost as many deaths as the " bird flu epedemic " . Why isn't anyone panicking over this? http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,1707536,00.html Ritalin heart attacks warning urged after 51 deaths in US Move to highlight risks of drug prescribed to hyperactive children Boseley, health editor Saturday February 11, 2006 The Guardian Ritalin, extensively prescribed to calm hyperactive children in the UK, should carry the highest-level warning that it may increase the risk of death from heart attacks, US experts recommended yesterday. There have been 51 deaths among children and adults taking drugs for ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) in the US since 1999. Yesterday the UK licensing authority, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), said nine children had died in this country among a smaller population on medication. They declined to reveal the children's ages because of the possibility of identification. In the US, doctors write 2m prescriptions for ADHD drugs for children every month and 1m for adults. In the UK, nobody knows how many people are on the drugs, which are licensed for children as young as six - although there are reports of them being given to children as young as three. A total of 361,832 prescriptions were written last year for Ritalin and other drugs of the methylphenidate class, which averages 30,153 a month. The cause of death for two of the nine children who died in the UK was specifically heart-related: one had a heart attack and a second an enlarged heart. One was recorded as a " sudden death " . One died of a haemorrhage in the brain and another of a swelling in the brain, two committed suicide and the last died of neonatal respiratory distress syndrome - presumably the mother was on the drugs. The recommendation by an advisory panel of the Food and Drug Administration to put a " black box " warning - the most serious possible - on all ADHD drugs in the US is likely to be accepted. Pressure will mount now on the British authorities to warn publicly of the risk. There is growing concern about the rising numbers of children being put on drugs. This class of drugs, known as methylphenidates, are amphetamine-based and it is thought they could cause heart problems in some children and adults because they raise blood pressure. There is already a warning on the drug most widely used in the US, Adderall, which is not licensed in the UK. The FDA advisers said it was not certain the drugs contributed to the 51 deaths. " The data is only suggestive at this point, but because of the gravity of the side-effect, namely sudden death, physicians need to be made clearly aware of that concern, " said Dr Gross, the panel chairman and head of internal medicine at Hackensack University Medical Centre in New Jersey. One member of the panel was clear that he hoped the warning might slow down the soaring rate of prescription of the drugs to children who are inattentive or badly behaved at school. " I want to get people's hands to tremble a little bit before they write that [prescription], " said Nissen, a panel member and cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic. Dave Woodhouse, psychologist and director of the Cactus Clinic, attached to Teesside University, which offers parents an alternative to drugs in the form of nutritional guidance and counselling, said: " One of the main issues is that fact that in the case of a lot of kids given Ritalin you don't know if they have a heart condition or not. " There are three methylphenidate drugs licensed in the UK - the bestselling Ritalin, Concerta and Equasym. The MHRA said there had been 521 reports of suspected adverse drug reactions, most of them in the past five years as more children have been put on them. It added that methylphenidate " is recognised to cause cardiovascular adverse effects " , such as a racing or abnormal heartbeat and palpitations and increased blood pressure. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 > > > I still say, that it is a sad state of affairs when parents just drug their children instead of, ummm, parenting them, changing their diets, looking for other environmental contributors or even looking at what is going on in the schools. > Please consider being a little more open-minded on this. Out of the millions of children " diagnosed " with ADHD, I'd venture that a conservative 50% have exhausted every " parenting " technique in the books, visited half a dozen medical and educational " specialists, " and made what they think are valiant attempts at changing diets. They are probably putting in a hell of a lot more " parenting " hours than those of us blessed with healthier kids, or those of us lucky enough to have found the needle in the haystack as to what is causing the problem. They need our help and support, more than our judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 At 07:05 PM 2/15/2006 -0000, you wrote: > >> >> >> I still say, that it is a sad state of affairs when parents just >drug their children instead of, ummm, parenting them, changing their >diets, looking for other environmental contributors or even looking at >what is going on in the schools. >> > >Please consider being a little more open-minded on this. > >Out of the millions of children " diagnosed " with ADHD, I'd venture >that a conservative 50% have exhausted every " parenting " technique in >the books, visited half a dozen medical and educational " specialists, " >and made what they think are valiant attempts at changing diets. > >They are probably putting in a hell of a lot more " parenting " hours >than those of us blessed with healthier kids, or those of us lucky >enough to have found the needle in the haystack as to what is causing >the problem. > >They need our help and support, more than our judgment. > > ADHD/ADD is REAL (not in every diagnosed case, but I agree with ) I see them in my practice. It isn't about parenting. Many children are vaccine injured and that injures their brains and there is a spectrum of brain injury here vaccine-induced encephalitis - the varying degrees of the encephalitis range from: 1. irritability 2. intractable crying 3. seizures 4. hyperactivity 5. ADD/ADHD 6. autism 7. death (SIDS & other) And anything else in between - its because of the inflammation of their little brains. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 " I still say, that it is a sad state of affairs when parents just >drug their children instead of, ummm, parenting them, changing their >diets, looking for other environmental contributors or even looking at >what is going on in the schools. " I'll play devil's advocate here and jump in on the other side. I understand what both of you are saying but it is true that many active, rambunctious children are " drugged " just for the sake of " tractability " . Ever see the episode of " King of the Hill " when Bobby was given Ritalin? or when Bart Simpson was? Many parents try hard but many, many others just take the " pill " route and it IS wrong. Beverle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I guess I just disagree that " many " parents irresponsibly take the drug route for simplicity's sake. This was a common belief when I was teaching special education, and I just rarely found it to be true. Yes, I saw parents who were easily frustrated, unwilling to put forth much effort to implement my suggestions, and looking for a quick fix... but these were individuals who had dealt with that child 24/7 for 8 or 9 YEARS. They had already gone through the Reality Discipline and Attachment Parenting and whatever else that, frankly, doesn't work at all for many children with brain injuries, i.e. autism or ADHD. And, likely, they were dealing with similar chemical problems or nutritional deficiencies as their children. Years of failure in their most important job... is it any wonder they were looking for something quick and easy? By the time they trudged into my classroom, they were FAR different people than they had been when they brought that precious little baby home. Since I had not experienced what they had been through, I could not begin to judge their actions. And in every case, a little support and faith in their efforts went a long way. Sorry so long... I just really believe that a more tolerant approach goes further to assist and educate. There's so much we can never really know about each other's lives -- > > " I still say, that it is a sad state of affairs when parents just > >drug their children instead of, ummm, parenting them, changing their > >diets, looking for other environmental contributors or even looking at > >what is going on in the schools. " > > I'll play devil's advocate here and jump in on the other side. I understand what both of you are saying but it is true that many active, rambunctious children are " drugged " just for the sake of " tractability " . Ever see the episode of " King of the Hill " when Bobby was given Ritalin? or when Bart Simpson was? Many parents try hard but many, many others just take the " pill " route and it IS wrong. > Beverle > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 If only 'they' could use better testing methods before slapping on the label based on limited observation and parent/teacher descriptions that can be so easily altered for a 'quick fix'. Family history is so important and so overlookked by the DSMIV (according to what I have read). Anita " Beverle G. Sweitzer " <abernco@...> wrote: " I still say, that it is a sad state of affairs when parents just >drug their children instead of, ummm, parenting them, changing their >diets, looking for other environmental contributors or even looking at >what is going on in the schools. " I'll play devil's advocate here and jump in on the other side. I understand what both of you are saying but it is true that many active, rambunctious children are " drugged " just for the sake of " tractability " . Ever see the episode of " King of the Hill " when Bobby was given Ritalin? or when Bart Simpson was? Many parents try hard but many, many others just take the " pill " route and it IS wrong. Beverle --------------------------------- Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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