Re: committee recommends adhd drug warnings

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February 10, 2006

Hi Sara --

This was all over the news this morning so perhaps that will pressure them

to approve the black box warning. I'm praying! I've seen parents get great

results without these drugs -- of course it does take more effort than just

handing the kid a pill. But perhaps the warning will make parents think

twice.

Health & blessings,

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and a lot of money!

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February 10, 2006

Hi ,

Someone I know has 2 of children on Strattera (1) for Opossitional Disorderand

(1) for ADHD and claims it is not a stimulant, therefore a safer drug than

Ritalin. This is the selling strategy being used by doctors. Do you know if

Strattera will be getting a black box warning too?

Anita

P <ExcitingHealth@...> wrote:

Hi Sara --

This was all over the news this morning so perhaps that will pressure them

to approve the black box warning. I'm praying! I've seen parents get great

results without these drugs -- of course it does take more effort than just

handing the kid a pill. But perhaps the warning will make parents think

twice.

Health & blessings,

Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference...

and a lot of money!

1-866-312-8064

February 10, 2006

Probably not, I do remember their commercials stating that they it is not a

stimulant. It is a sad state of affairs when so many people just give their

kids drugs for being, well, kids!

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Anita Durney <mydurney@...>

Hi ,

Someone I know has 2 of children on Strattera (1) for Opossitional Disorderand

(1) for ADHD and claims it is not a stimulant, therefore a safer drug than

Ritalin. This is the selling strategy being used by doctors. Do you know if

Strattera will be getting a black box warning too?

Anita

P <ExcitingHealth@...> wrote:

Hi Sara --

This was all over the news this morning so perhaps that will pressure them

to approve the black box warning. I'm praying! I've seen parents get great

results without these drugs -- of course it does take more effort than just

handing the kid a pill. But perhaps the warning will make parents think

twice.

Health & blessings,

Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference...

and a lot of money!

1-866-312-8064

February 10, 2006

Sara,

While I agree that giving the kids drugs is horrible, I know enough truly ADHD

kids to know that they're not just being " kids " . Sure, many times it is

overdiagnosed - I'll give you that. But in my honest opinion there are children

out there who cannot think normally due to some type of brain damage. I mean

it's truly maddening to be with them. Not to be argumentative here.

And to be fair to many people out there, ADHD is not an easy thing to fix. It

is far easier to cover it up (when you don't know about true healing) with a

pill that is covered by insurance than trying to adjust your entire lifestyle

with diet, alternative therapies, supplements, etc.. that are rarely covered by

insurance.

My sister is a single mom of two kids who have lots of issues - undoubtedly

caused by vaccines. While I do wish that she would bite the initial bullet and

get homeopathic help for these kids, I do know that there is no way financially

that she could do special diets, alternative doctors, etc.. She just simply does

not have the funds. And sadly this is the case with so many people out there

and why many people don't pursue more holistic forms of healing.

So I guess it's so easy to judge these folks - and it makes me sad and furious

(at those who CAN afford it and just are too lazy).

But I DO believe that there is some type of brain disorder that lies on the

autism spectrum that we have come to know as ADHD.

Sheri B.

SaraShaughnessy@... wrote:

Probably not, I do remember their commercials stating that they it is not a

stimulant. It is a sad state of affairs when so many people just give their

kids drugs for being, well, kids!

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Anita Durney <mydurney@...>

Hi ,

Someone I know has 2 of children on Strattera (1) for Opossitional Disorderand

(1) for ADHD and claims it is not a stimulant, therefore a safer drug than

Ritalin. This is the selling strategy being used by doctors. Do you know if

Strattera will be getting a black box warning too?

Anita

P <ExcitingHealth@...> wrote:

Hi Sara --

This was all over the news this morning so perhaps that will pressure them

to approve the black box warning. I'm praying! I've seen parents get great

results without these drugs -- of course it does take more effort than just

handing the kid a pill. But perhaps the warning will make parents think

twice.

Health & blessings,

Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference...

and a lot of money!

1-866-312-8064

February 10, 2006

If I came accross as insensitive and judgemental, I do apologise to anyone I may

have offended. Granted there are cases of ADHD with real pathologies and some

real cases with no evidence of pathology. I do see that we have an explosion of

children with behavioural problems that are nearly impossible to deal with and

present some very real dangers. Let's take a deeper look at why and make the

changes there.

Call me a conspiratist, but I think there is a real effort being made by the

medical/pschiatric community in union with the public school systems to squash

out over active boys and any child that is unable to sit in their seats for

several hours a day to get their *education* which is part of the *dumming down*

system many believe it to be so they can produce good little rule followers and

future workers, but that's another topic entirely.

So many of these children are extremely bright with incredible gifts that will

be extinguished by drugs if permitted. I'm at a loss for famous people who had

hyper active behavioral issues that didn't do well in school that went on to do

great things. Einstein was definately on the spectrum, but I don't think he was

hyperactive; more like Aspergers. I want to say Columbus was one,

but I'm not sure. Anyway, they did exist and we wouldn't be where we are if

their bright bulbs were dimmed by oppressive medication.

Whether or not ADHD exisits in many of the children who receive the diagnosis,

we can't use it as an excuse to get them hooked on a *lifelong* drug dependancy

that increases their chances of smoking, drinking and illegal drug abuse. They

are simply indoctrinating a whole generation of mostly boys into government

dependancy and criminality. Whether or not vaccines are to blame, it's another

way for the government to control the masses. That's how I see it at the moment

anyway.

Anita

" Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote:

So I guess it's so easy to judge these folks - and it makes me sad and

furious (at those who CAN afford it and just are too lazy).

But I DO believe that there is some type of brain disorder that lies on the

autism spectrum that we have come to know as ADHD.

Sheri B.

SaraShaughnessy@... wrote:

Probably not, I do remember their commercials stating that they it is not a

stimulant. It is a sad state of affairs when so many people just give their

kids drugs for being, well, kids!

--

Sara

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Anita Durney <mydurney@...>

Hi ,

Someone I know has 2 of children on Strattera (1) for Opossitional Disorderand

(1) for ADHD and claims it is not a stimulant, therefore a safer drug than

Ritalin. This is the selling strategy being used by doctors. Do you know if

Strattera will be getting a black box warning too?

Anita

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February 10, 2006

Anita,

I totally agree with what you have put so well into words. I guess what I was

trying to convey is that some people dismiss this behavior as " boys will be

boys " and in some cases this is true. Many people just don't want to deal with

high-energy kids, mostly boys.

And I agree that there is no pathological diagnosis of ADHD being a disease.

But the evident brain disorder in some of these children on the spectrum cannot

be ignored and they will, in most cases, fail to flourish in normal society

unless they are worked with in some shape or form (be it homeopathy, diet,

behavioral therapy, etc..). Many of these kids simply cannot function!

There has been another theory thrown around that our society has rapidly

changed from agrarian to industrial to " sit on your tush " and that we as humans

have not had the time to evolve physiologically to this more sedentary

lifestyle. Chances are, many of these kids would have been great farm workers

or coal miners or even the day-to-day living of housekeeping for women, which

was much more labor intensive. Just one theory.

50 years ago kids were expected to sit still in a classroom and listen and

learn and you didn't hear about the kinds of behavior that you have now. I'm

sure you had a few disruptive kids, but my parents swear that kids weren't that

way and my first grade teacher, who is still alive, says the same thing. Kids

are just different nowadays. And what is different? Well, shots for one thing!

\

So I don't know. I do agree that mass medication or medication in general is

NOT the answer. But until the lid gets blown on why an entire generation of

kids has severe issues, I'm sure people will medicate just to get them to

survive day to day. And it doesn't hurt that it makes a ton of money for the

drug companies.

And what worries me most is that very soon we will not remember what " normal "

was. There won't be any of the older generation around to say that the current

children are not behaving in a normal fashion. Then what will be the norm?

That is scary.

Sheri B.

Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

If I came accross as insensitive and judgemental, I do apologise to anyone I

may have offended. Granted there are cases of ADHD with real pathologies and

some real cases with no evidence of pathology. I do see that we have an

explosion of children with behavioural problems that are nearly impossible to

deal with and present some very real dangers. Let's take a deeper look at why

and make the changes there.

Call me a conspiratist, but I think there is a real effort being made by the

medical/pschiatric community in union with the public school systems to squash

out over active boys and any child that is unable to sit in their seats for

several hours a day to get their *education* which is part of the *dumming down*

system many believe it to be so they can produce good little rule followers and

future workers, but that's another topic entirely.

So many of these children are extremely bright with incredible gifts that will

be extinguished by drugs if permitted. I'm at a loss for famous people who had

hyper active behavioral issues that didn't do well in school that went on to do

great things. Einstein was definately on the spectrum, but I don't think he was

hyperactive; more like Aspergers. I want to say Columbus was one,

but I'm not sure. Anyway, they did exist and we wouldn't be where we are if

their bright bulbs were dimmed by oppressive medication.

Whether or not ADHD exisits in many of the children who receive the diagnosis,

we can't use it as an excuse to get them hooked on a *lifelong* drug dependancy

that increases their chances of smoking, drinking and illegal drug abuse. They

are simply indoctrinating a whole generation of mostly boys into government

dependancy and criminality. Whether or not vaccines are to blame, it's another

way for the government to control the masses. That's how I see it at the moment

anyway.

Anita

" Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote:

So I guess it's so easy to judge these folks - and it makes me sad and

furious (at those who CAN afford it and just are too lazy).

But I DO believe that there is some type of brain disorder that lies on the

autism spectrum that we have come to know as ADHD.

Sheri B.

SaraShaughnessy@... wrote:

Probably not, I do remember their commercials stating that they it is not a

stimulant. It is a sad state of affairs when so many people just give their

kids drugs for being, well, kids!

--

Sara

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Anita Durney <mydurney@...>

Hi ,

Someone I know has 2 of children on Strattera (1) for Opossitional Disorderand

(1) for ADHD and claims it is not a stimulant, therefore a safer drug than

Ritalin. This is the selling strategy being used by doctors. Do you know if

Strattera will be getting a black box warning too?

Anita

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February 10, 2006

Hi Anita --

They showed the Stratera box in the product shot on the news, so I think it

is one of the ones that they're considering labeling.

On 2/10/06, Anita Durney <mydurney@...> wrote:

>

> Hi ,

> Someone I know has 2 of children on Strattera (1) for Opossitional

> Disorderand (1) for ADHD and claims it is not a stimulant, therefore a safer

> drug than Ritalin. This is the selling strategy being used by doctors. Do

> you know if Strattera will be getting a black box warning too?

> Anita

Health & blessings,

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and a lot of money!

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February 10, 2006

Hi Sheri --

Many, if not all, ADHD kids do much better in a non-toxic (i.e. chemical

free) environment -- preferably both internal (chemical laden foods) and

external (cleaning chemicals/pesticides). However even parents who just

switch to non-toxic cleaners usually see a noticeable difference. And many

comment that if their child walks past the cleaning chemicals isle in the

market, their child's behavior changes within a very short time -- if we can

smell it, we're inhaling it. Plus changing to non-toxic cleaners is a very

inexpensive thing to do.

If I may suggest, check out the book - *Is This Your Child* by Dr. Doris

Rapp.

Health & blessings,

Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference...

and a lot of money!

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February 10, 2006

I must add that I get sick and act weird around cleaning chemicals, I can't

handle the cleaning aisle in most grocery stores, luckily, we do most of our

shopping at Whole Foods, which doesn't contain toxic cleaners. Making the

switch isn't expensive either. We use Dr. Bronner's soap for cleaning just

about everything and it turns out that it is cheaper than buying a multitude of

different toxic cleaning products.

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

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From: P <ExcitingHealth@...>

Hi Sheri --

Many, if not all, ADHD kids do much better in a non-toxic (i.e. chemical

free) environment -- preferably both internal (chemical laden foods) and

external (cleaning chemicals/pesticides). However even parents who just

switch to non-toxic cleaners usually see a noticeable difference. And many

comment that if their child walks past the cleaning chemicals isle in the

market, their child's behavior changes within a very short time -- if we can

smell it, we're inhaling it. Plus changing to non-toxic cleaners is a very

inexpensive thing to do.

If I may suggest, check out the book - *Is This Your Child* by Dr. Doris

Rapp.

Health & blessings,

Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference...

and a lot of money!