Re: Mad that I can't get chicken pox for my kids!

[Guest guest]

It's not strange at all Sheri. I exposed my kids to CP 12 years ago (right

before the vax became available). My neighbor's grandkids had it, and they were

at the neighbor's house playing. So, off I went with my 2 kids and yes they

ended up with chicken pox, too. They were 2 and 3 at the time, and I'm sooo

glad we got it overwith then!

((Hugs)) from someone who DOES understand what you're trying to accomplish!

Kay

Mad that I can't get chicken pox for my kids!

I'm so frustrated and a little bit angry. We had the chance, as I had posted

earlier, to expose our children to chicken pox. Since the child had been

vaccinated years ago, I'm thinking that this might be " real " chicken pox instead

of a vaccine shed.

Anyway, we're having neighbors over tomorrow night to watch the playoff game

and they're bringing kids. I asked one of the moms with whom I'm the closest,

what she thought of my exposing the kids prior to our get-together.

While she agreed that they wouldn't be contagious until two days or so prior

to showing symptoms, she thought it was not very nice to knowingly expose

people's kids to CP at all. Period. So her take on it was that my exposing my

dd to this - whether it was tomorrow night or any other night - was very uncool

and downright rude. She said, " ly I don't want my kids missing a week of

school " They're vaxed, by the way, but everyone agrees that the CP vax isn't

worth much.

I said to her, " You DO realize that 10 to 15 years ago, CP was no big

freaking deal and that the primary reason for this vaccine was to reduce missed

work days. " She agreed but agreed that she didn't want it to mess with their

busy lifestyle either.

What in goodness' name is so weird about trying to expose my kids to CP?

Even my dh said he thought it was strange.

So I called off the playdate today but I think we'll still get the kids

together on Monday and to hell with the rest of them. I'm liable to lose quite

a few friendships - yet again.

I'm a force to be reckoned with at the moment.

Sheri B.

[Guest guest]

I agree - not strange.

i was just concerned about chix pox vax strain.

Its a different mindset nowadays. The shortterm advantages over the longer

term

Sheri

>It's not strange at all Sheri. I exposed my kids to CP 12 years ago

(right before the vax became available). My neighbor's grandkids had it,

and they were at the neighbor's house playing. So, off I went with my 2

kids and yes they ended up with chicken pox, too. They were 2 and 3 at

the time, and I'm sooo glad we got it overwith then!

>

>((Hugs)) from someone who DOES understand what you're trying to accomplish!

>

>Kay

> Mad that I can't get chicken pox for my kids!

>

>

> I'm so frustrated and a little bit angry. We had the chance, as I had

posted earlier, to expose our children to chicken pox. Since the child had

been vaccinated years ago, I'm thinking that this might be " real " chicken

pox instead of a vaccine shed.

>

> Anyway, we're having neighbors over tomorrow night to watch the

playoff game and they're bringing kids. I asked one of the moms with whom

I'm the closest, what she thought of my exposing the kids prior to our

get-together.

>

> While she agreed that they wouldn't be contagious until two days or so

prior to showing symptoms, she thought it was not very nice to knowingly

expose people's kids to CP at all. Period. So her take on it was that my

exposing my dd to this - whether it was tomorrow night or any other night -

was very uncool and downright rude. She said, " ly I don't want my

kids missing a week of school " They're vaxed, by the way, but everyone

agrees that the CP vax isn't worth much.

>

> I said to her, " You DO realize that 10 to 15 years ago, CP was no big

freaking deal and that the primary reason for this vaccine was to reduce

missed work days. " She agreed but agreed that she didn't want it to mess

with their busy lifestyle either.

>

> What in goodness' name is so weird about trying to expose my kids to

CP? Even my dh said he thought it was strange.

>

> So I called off the playdate today but I think we'll still get the

kids together on Monday and to hell with the rest of them. I'm liable to

lose quite a few friendships - yet again.

>

> I'm a force to be reckoned with at the moment.

>

> Sheri B.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Now this is just my thoughts, but I think that it would be safer for a child to

contract chicken pox through an older person with shingles, wouldnt' it?

Shingles is the same virus as chicken pox, it has just been dormant, so I would

think that the strain would be wild, wouldn't it?

I took my son to a " chicken pox party " when he was two. The child who had them,

had gotten them from coming into contact with shingles. My son did have a bad

case that got pretty scary, but I think that it was because he had been

vaccinated up until he was " supposed " to get the MMR, and his immune system was

compromised. We did end up taking him to the ER, just because he had a pock in

his eye and I had read that they could be dangerous. Can you believe that the

ER doctor wanted to put him on antibiotics?? He wanted to give him a shot of

antibiotics, a script for oral antibiotics AND antibiotic eye drops! I told him

NO on the shot and told him that I would take the scripts and use them if I felt

that they were necessary. Needless to say, he wasn't very thrilled with my

response and said that he was going to note in his chart that I wouldn't follow

his medical advice, I told him that was fine. I ended up taking him to a

" better " ER and the doctor there was in shock with what I told her. She did say

that she thought it would be a good idea to give him the eye drops, just because

she was afraid that he would scratch the pock and have an infected eye.

Ok, I went a little off track there......

I am actively looking for someone to expose my three year old to. I guess it is

time to start cruisin' the nursing homes!

--

Sara

Proud Mama to

Colin 12/07/99

Jack 8/07/02

--------- Mad that I can't get chicken pox for my kids!

>

>

> I'm so frustrated and a little bit angry. We had the chance, as I had

posted earlier, to expose our children to chicken pox. Since the child had

been vaccinated years ago, I'm thinking that this might be " real " chicken

pox instead of a vaccine shed.

>

> Anyway, we're having neighbors over tomorrow night to watch the

playoff game and they're bringing kids. I asked one of the moms with whom

I'm the closest, what she thought of my exposing the kids prior to our

get-together.

>

> While she agreed that they wouldn't be contagious until two days or so

prior to showing symptoms, she thought it was not very nice to knowingly

expose people's kids to CP at all. Period. So her take on it was that my

exposing my dd to this - whether it was tomorrow night or any other night -

was very uncool and downright rude. She said, " ly I don't want my

kids missing a week of school " They're vaxed, by the way, but everyone

agrees that the CP vax isn't worth much.

>

> I said to her, " You DO realize that 10 to 15 years ago, CP was no big

freaking deal and that the primary reason for this vaccine was to reduce

missed work days. " She agreed but agreed that she didn't want it to mess

with their busy lifestyle either.

>

> What in goodness' name is so weird about trying to expose my kids to

CP? Even my dh said he thought it was strange.

>

> So I called off the playdate today but I think we'll still get the

kids together on Monday and to hell with the rest of them. I'm liable to

lose quite a few friendships - yet again.

>

> I'm a force to be reckoned with at the moment.

>

> Sheri B.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I guess I don't totally understand the reasoning behind trying to get the

chicken pox - you then may have to deal with shingles later.

I don't vaccinate my daughter; so I do tend to watch who she's around and what

illness they may have. Although the only regular contact she has with other

little ones is at church or swimming classes- I've never had chickenpox - so I

guess selfishly, I don't really want a rip roaring case of them now at 36. (My

daughter's ped seems to think I had a mild case because I've been around others

when they had it)

I kind of hope (and constantly provide the C - and acidophilus - and other

healthy things) that her immunity would fight it off.

Re: Mad that I can't get chicken pox for my kids!

I agree - not strange.

i was just concerned about chix pox vax strain.

Its a different mindset nowadays. The shortterm advantages over the longer

term

Sheri

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

I feel the exact opposite about what germs other kids are carrying BECAUSE my

children are not vaccinated making them inherently stronger than most other

children. What will be will be. No matter what your vaccination status; it's a

matter of suceptibility. Timing is everything.

Anita

Cheryl <che2you@...> wrote:

I guess I don't totally understand the reasoning behind trying to get the

chicken pox - you then may have to deal with shingles later.

I don't vaccinate my daughter; so I do tend to watch who she's around and what

illness they may have. Although the only regular contact she has with other

little ones is at church or swimming classes- I've never had chickenpox - so I

guess selfishly, I don't really want a rip roaring case of them now at 36. (My

daughter's ped seems to think I had a mild case because I've been around others

when they had it)

I kind of hope (and constantly provide the C - and acidophilus - and other

healthy things) that her immunity would fight it off.

Re: Mad that I can't get chicken pox for my kids!

I agree - not strange.

i was just concerned about chix pox vax strain.

Its a different mindset nowadays. The shortterm advantages over the longer

term

Sheri

[Guest guest]

>

>I guess I don't totally understand the reasoning behind trying to get the

chicken pox - you then may have to deal with shingles later.

>

>I don't vaccinate my daughter; so I do tend to watch who she's around and

what illness they may have. Although the only regular contact she has with

other little ones is at church or swimming classes- I've never had

chickenpox - so I guess selfishly, I don't really want a rip roaring case

of them now at 36. (My daughter's ped seems to think I had a mild case

because I've been around others when they had it)

>

>I kind of hope (and constantly provide the C - and acidophilus - and other

healthy things) that her immunity would fight it off.

>

>

Many people have immunity and don't realize they had a case of chickenpox

And the reason you want a child to have them now is so theydon't have to

say, the same at 36.

Shingles is something that happens in Immune suppressed through stress or

other un-health.

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

Yes, I really want them to have it because I think that they are part of

childhood for a reason. I think that the basic childhood illnesses might even

help boost the immune system. The older one is with the CP, the worse the cases

usually are.

I was 8 or so when I got them and had a fairly severe case, but my 2 year old

sister hardly even had them but got immunity.

I also feel that it's better for women to get them as children so they don't

fear getting them while pregnant, even though that doesn't necessarily mean

birth defects/miscarriage. It can, though.

So those are my reasons,

Sheri B.

Sheri Nakken <snakken@...> wrote:

>

>I guess I don't totally understand the reasoning behind trying to get the

chicken pox - you then may have to deal with shingles later.

>

>I don't vaccinate my daughter; so I do tend to watch who she's around and

what illness they may have. Although the only regular contact she has with

other little ones is at church or swimming classes- I've never had

chickenpox - so I guess selfishly, I don't really want a rip roaring case

of them now at 36. (My daughter's ped seems to think I had a mild case

because I've been around others when they had it)

>

>I kind of hope (and constantly provide the C - and acidophilus - and other

healthy things) that her immunity would fight it off.

>

>

Many people have immunity and don't realize they had a case of chickenpox

And the reason you want a child to have them now is so theydon't have to

say, the same at 36.

Shingles is something that happens in Immune suppressed through stress or

other un-health.

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

[Guest guest]

Oh, I wasn't referring to your comments, Sheri N. I meant her friends (and her

dh) that think it's so strange to try and expose her kids to chicken pox.

They've obviously bought into the scare tactics used by MDs and pHARMa that

chicken pox is this awful, dreaded disease.

I agree it's a bit different now since who knows what is the true strain of

chicken pox or if it's the vaccine modified version? So many unknowns...

Kay

Mad that I can't get chicken pox for my kids!

>

>

> I'm so frustrated and a little bit angry. We had the chance, as I had

posted earlier, to expose our children to chicken pox. Since the child had

been vaccinated years ago, I'm thinking that this might be " real " chicken

pox instead of a vaccine shed.

>

> Anyway, we're having neighbors over tomorrow night to watch the

playoff game and they're bringing kids. I asked one of the moms with whom

I'm the closest, what she thought of my exposing the kids prior to our

get-together.

>

> While she agreed that they wouldn't be contagious until two days or so

prior to showing symptoms, she thought it was not very nice to knowingly

expose people's kids to CP at all. Period. So her take on it was that my

exposing my dd to this - whether it was tomorrow night or any other night -

was very uncool and downright rude. She said, " ly I don't want my

kids missing a week of school " They're vaxed, by the way, but everyone

agrees that the CP vax isn't worth much.

>

> I said to her, " You DO realize that 10 to 15 years ago, CP was no big

freaking deal and that the primary reason for this vaccine was to reduce

missed work days. " She agreed but agreed that she didn't want it to mess

with their busy lifestyle either.

>

> What in goodness' name is so weird about trying to expose my kids to

CP? Even my dh said he thought it was strange.

>

> So I called off the playdate today but I think we'll still get the

kids together on Monday and to hell with the rest of them. I'm liable to

lose quite a few friendships - yet again.

>

> I'm a force to be reckoned with at the moment.

>

> Sheri B.

[Guest guest]

People might consider starting a state by state group for exposing to

chicken pox. Here is the one for Wisconsin

WIPox/?yguid=160992215

Lucas