Re: WAS: Food poisoning, NOW: probiotics

[Guest guest]

Roween,

Don't know if you regularly give Audrey probiotics, but I'm becoming

increasingly convinced that this helps with all sorts of digestive issues. Do a

Google and you'll find that there are " even " peer-reviewed studies now that

indicate that this does help.

There have been numerous rounds of vomiting/diarrhea stuff at my two older

childrens' school and my kids have not once succombed to it (as I knock on wood

for good luck).

Just a thought! : )

Sheri B.

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[Guest guest]

hi sheri,

thanks for the suggestion... i really believe probiotics are amazing.

audrey can not tolerate the brand i have, but i started to give her it

when this happened because i figured a behaviour reaction was better

than her getting very sick!!! just getting ready to do an order from

kirkmans in the usa as i have heard they are the best tolerated for

children as sensitive as audrey (adhd or autism).

audrey has had a great day - she has complained of a sore tummy on and

off but no other symptoms, no fever, runny stools or temp (and to be

honest - sore tummies are not unusual for her as she suffers digestive

problems often - so it could be nothing or it could even be the

probiotic). she has been super happy (which is also not nec the norm

around her with all her food sensitivities) - so all is well! im

hoping things will be much the same tomorrow... i will do a post for

sure, let you know.

tomorrow i will keep up transfer factor, probiotics and tissue salts.

i also gave her double doses of five mushrooms and chlorella the last

two days for detox, to help clear out any bacteria... all of this is

sure to have had an impact (not to mention me telling her she is

healthy and strong - she probably thinks im crazy!). im sure things

will be fine but was just wanting to be prepared incase!

i appreciate everyones input!

roweena x

On 21/01/2006, at 11:33 PM, Sheri B. wrote:

> Roween,

>   

>   Don't know if you regularly give Audrey probiotics, but I'm

> becoming increasingly convinced that this helps with all sorts of

> digestive issues.  Do a Google and you'll find that there are " even "

> peer-reviewed studies now that indicate that this does help.

>   

>   There have been numerous rounds of vomiting/diarrhea stuff at my

> two older childrens' school and my kids have not once succombed to it

> (as I knock on wood for good luck). 

>   

>   Just a thought!  : )

>   Sheri B.

[Guest guest]

Hi Roweena,

I used to use tissue salts on Henry. May I ask which ones you are using and at

what dosage? I'm glad Audrey is happy today.

Anita

Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

hi sheri,

thanks for the suggestion... i really believe probiotics are amazing.

audrey can not tolerate the brand i have, but i started to give her it

when this happened because i figured a behaviour reaction was better

than her getting very sick!!! just getting ready to do an order from

kirkmans in the usa as i have heard they are the best tolerated for

children as sensitive as audrey (adhd or autism).

audrey has had a great day - she has complained of a sore tummy on and

off but no other symptoms, no fever, runny stools or temp (and to be

honest - sore tummies are not unusual for her as she suffers digestive

problems often - so it could be nothing or it could even be the

probiotic). she has been super happy (which is also not nec the norm

around her with all her food sensitivities) - so all is well! im

hoping things will be much the same tomorrow... i will do a post for

sure, let you know.

tomorrow i will keep up transfer factor, probiotics and tissue salts.

i also gave her double doses of five mushrooms and chlorella the last

two days for detox, to help clear out any bacteria... all of this is

sure to have had an impact (not to mention me telling her she is

healthy and strong - she probably thinks im crazy!). im sure things

will be fine but was just wanting to be prepared incase!

i appreciate everyones input!

roweena x

On 21/01/2006, at 11:33 PM, Sheri B. wrote:

> Roween,

>

> Don't know if you regularly give Audrey probiotics, but I'm

> becoming increasingly convinced that this helps with all sorts of

> digestive issues. Do a Google and you'll find that there are " even "

> peer-reviewed studies now that indicate that this does help.

>

> There have been numerous rounds of vomiting/diarrhea stuff at my

> two older childrens' school and my kids have not once succombed to it

> (as I knock on wood for good luck).

>

> Just a thought! : )

> Sheri B.

[Guest guest]

hi anita,

i use 'new era' from the uk. 2 whenever i think of it - maybe five

times yesterday (around every two hours). we have used these since she

was only months old and have found them to be very effective in keeping

temp under control - placebo too - she says they make her feel better.

she will ask for them when she is not feeling well!!!

did you find them useful for henry?

she seems great today too so my feeling that is even though she has a

compromised digestive system - this would normally be her weakness as

far as health problems go, she can tolerate only 10 foods (which is why

i was so concerned)... she is going to be fine. in 10 hours - it will

have been 72 hours since she ate the suspect chicken which is the max

time suggested for the food poisioning to occur... so fingers crossed

we stay on track!

roweena x

On 22/01/2006, at 6:29 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

> Hi Roweena,

>   I used to use tissue salts on Henry. May I ask which ones you are

> using and at what dosage? I'm glad Audrey is happy today. 

>   Anita

>

> Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

>   hi sheri,

>

> thanks for the suggestion...  i really believe probiotics are

> amazing. 

> audrey can not tolerate the brand i have, but i started to give her it

> when this happened because i figured a behaviour reaction was better

> than her getting very sick!!!  just getting ready to do an order from

> kirkmans in the usa as i have heard they are the best tolerated for

> children as sensitive as audrey (adhd or autism).

>

> audrey has had a great day - she has complained of a sore tummy on and

> off but no other symptoms, no fever, runny stools or temp (and to be

> honest - sore tummies are not unusual for her as she suffers digestive

> problems often - so it could be nothing or it could even be the

> probiotic).  she has been super happy (which is also not nec the norm

> around her with all her food sensitivities) - so all is well!  im

> hoping things will be much the same tomorrow...  i will do a post for

> sure, let you know.

>

> tomorrow i will keep up transfer factor, probiotics and tissue salts. 

> i also gave her double doses of five mushrooms and chlorella the last

> two days for detox, to help clear out any bacteria...  all of this is

> sure to have had an impact (not to mention me telling her she is

> healthy and strong - she probably thinks im crazy!).  im sure things

> will be fine but was just wanting to be prepared incase!

>

> i appreciate everyones input!

>

> roweena x

>

> On 21/01/2006, at 11:33 PM, Sheri B. wrote:

>

> > Roween,

> >   

> >    Don't know if you regularly give Audrey probiotics, but I'm

> > becoming increasingly convinced that this helps with all sorts of

> > digestive issues.  Do a Google and you'll find that there are " even "

> > peer-reviewed studies now that indicate that this does help.

> >   

> >    There have been numerous rounds of vomiting/diarrhea stuff at my

> > two older childrens' school and my kids have not once succombed to

> it

> > (as I knock on wood for good luck).

> >   

> >    Just a thought!  : )

> >    Sheri B.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Roweena - there are 12 tissue salts that I know of. Which ones and what

potencies are you giving her? I don't know if they helped Henry as they were

part of a protocol; something I no longer believe in. Protocols involve a 'catch

all' combination of things making it impossible to know what the healing agent

or agents are.

I don't know that it is wise to use tissue salts as a placebo as they are not

an innocuous substance. They should be prescribed by a qualified caregiver I

think.

Anita

Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

hi anita,

i use 'new era' from the uk. 2 whenever i think of it - maybe five

times yesterday (around every two hours). we have used these since she

was only months old and have found them to be very effective in keeping

temp under control - placebo too - she says they make her feel better.

she will ask for them when she is not feeling well!!!

did you find them useful for henry?

she seems great today too so my feeling that is even though she has a

compromised digestive system - this would normally be her weakness as

far as health problems go, she can tolerate only 10 foods (which is why

i was so concerned)... she is going to be fine. in 10 hours - it will

have been 72 hours since she ate the suspect chicken which is the max

time suggested for the food poisioning to occur... so fingers crossed

we stay on track!

roweena x

On 22/01/2006, at 6:29 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

> Hi Roweena,

> Â I used to use tissue salts on Henry. May I ask which ones you are

> using and at what dosage? I'm glad Audrey is happy today.Â

> Â Anita

>

> Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

> Â hi sheri,

>

> thanks for the suggestion... i really believe probiotics are

> amazing.Â

> audrey can not tolerate the brand i have, but i started to give her it

> when this happened because i figured a behaviour reaction was better

> than her getting very sick!!! just getting ready to do an order from

> kirkmans in the usa as i have heard they are the best tolerated for

> children as sensitive as audrey (adhd or autism).

>

> audrey has had a great day - she has complained of a sore tummy on and

> off but no other symptoms, no fever, runny stools or temp (and to be

> honest - sore tummies are not unusual for her as she suffers digestive

> problems often - so it could be nothing or it could even be the

> probiotic). she has been super happy (which is also not nec the norm

> around her with all her food sensitivities) - so all is well! im

> hoping things will be much the same tomorrow... i will do a post for

> sure, let you know.

>

> tomorrow i will keep up transfer factor, probiotics and tissue salts.Â

> i also gave her double doses of five mushrooms and chlorella the last

> two days for detox, to help clear out any bacteria... all of this is

> sure to have had an impact (not to mention me telling her she is

> healthy and strong - she probably thinks im crazy!). im sure things

> will be fine but was just wanting to be prepared incase!

>

> i appreciate everyones input!

>

> roweena x

>

> On 21/01/2006, at 11:33 PM, Sheri B. wrote:

>

> > Roween,

> >Â Â Â

> >Â Â Â Don't know if you regularly give Audrey probiotics, but I'm

> > becoming increasingly convinced that this helps with all sorts of

> > digestive issues. Do a Google and you'll find that there are " even "

> > peer-reviewed studies now that indicate that this does help.

> >Â Â Â

> >Â Â Â There have been numerous rounds of vomiting/diarrhea stuff at my

> > two older childrens' school and my kids have not once succombed to

> it

> > (as I knock on wood for good luck).

> >Â Â Â

> >   Just a thought! : )

> >Â Â Â Sheri B.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i misunderstood your question... new era is the brand we use and by

far the best i have tried...

she is taking ferr phos and calc phos at the moment because they match

her symptoms.

i have been using them for close to 10 years for myself. my homeopath

at first advised of which one was appropriate for my symptoms but i

have not needed his advise for many years. i refer to a book and match

the symptoms to the appropriate tissue salt (although in many instance

i know which one is required). he encourages me to take control of our

health and says my instincts when it comes to this stuff are always

spot on. we use them as soon as we see signs of ill health and many

times never need a remedy - i think they are really great and have

kept us away from seeing doctors for many years!

so i didnt mean i give her any which one to make her 'feel' like she is

better - i give her the appropriate one but its funny how she

associates them with making her feel better, so i know when she is not

well because she will ask for them because she says they make her feel

better - so that is why i referred to them having possible placebo

affect!

roweena x

On 22/01/2006, at 8:46 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

> Roweena - there are 12 tissue salts that I know of. Which ones and

> what potencies are you giving her? I don't know if they helped Henry

> as they were part of a protocol; something I no longer believe in.

> Protocols involve a 'catch all' combination of things making it

> impossible to know what the healing agent or agents are.

>   

>   I don't know that it is wise to use tissue salts as a placebo as

> they are not an innocuous substance. They should be prescribed by a

> qualified caregiver I think.

>   

>   Anita

>   

>  

> Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

>   hi anita,

>

> i use 'new era' from the uk.  2 whenever i think of it - maybe five

> times yesterday (around every two hours).  we have used these since

> she

> was only months old and have found them to be very effective in

> keeping

> temp under control - placebo too - she says they make her feel

> better. 

> she will ask for them when she is not feeling well!!!

>

> did you find them useful for henry?

>

> she seems great today too so my feeling that is even though she has a

> compromised digestive system - this would normally be her weakness as

> far as health problems go, she can tolerate only 10 foods (which is

> why

> i was so concerned)...  she is going to be fine.  in 10 hours - it

> will

> have been 72 hours since she ate the suspect chicken which is the max

> time suggested for the food poisioning to occur... so fingers crossed

> we stay on track!

>

> roweena x

>

> On 22/01/2006, at 6:29 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

>

> > Hi Roweena,

> >    I used to use tissue salts on Henry. May I ask which ones you

> are

> > using and at what dosage? I'm glad Audrey is happy today. 

> >    Anita

> >

> >  Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

> >    hi sheri,

> >

> >  thanks for the suggestion...  i really believe probiotics are

> > amazing.Â

> >  audrey can not tolerate the brand i have, but i started to give

> her it

> >  when this happened because i figured a behaviour reaction was

> better

> >  than her getting very sick!!!  just getting ready to do an order

> from

> >  kirkmans in the usa as i have heard they are the best tolerated for

> >  children as sensitive as audrey (adhd or autism).

> >

> >  audrey has had a great day - she has complained of a sore tummy on

> and

> >  off but no other symptoms, no fever, runny stools or temp (and to

> be

> >  honest - sore tummies are not unusual for her as she suffers

> digestive

> >  problems often - so it could be nothing or it could even be the

> >  probiotic).  she has been super happy (which is also not nec the

> norm

> >  around her with all her food sensitivities) - so all is well!  im

> >  hoping things will be much the same tomorrow...  i will do a post

> for

> >  sure, let you know.

> >

> >  tomorrow i will keep up transfer factor, probiotics and tissue

> salts.Â

> >  i also gave her double doses of five mushrooms and chlorella the

> last

> >  two days for detox, to help clear out any bacteria...  all of

> this is

> >  sure to have had an impact (not to mention me telling her she is

> >  healthy and strong - she probably thinks im crazy!).  im sure

> things

> >  will be fine but was just wanting to be prepared incase!

> >

> >  i appreciate everyones input!

> >

> >  roweena x

> >

> >  On 21/01/2006, at 11:33 PM, Sheri B. wrote:

> >

> >  > Roween,

> >  >Â Â Â

> >  >    Don't know if you regularly give Audrey probiotics, but I'm

> >  > becoming increasingly convinced that this helps with all sorts of

> >  > digestive issues.  Do a Google and you'll find that there are

> " even "

> >  > peer-reviewed studies now that indicate that this does help..

> >  >Â Â Â

> >  >    There have been numerous rounds of vomiting/diarrhea stuff

> at my

> >  > two older childrens' school and my kids have not once succombed

> to

> > it

> >  > (as I knock on wood for good luck).

> >  >Â Â Â

> >  >    Just a thought!  : )

> >  >    Sheri B.

> >

> >

> > 

[Guest guest]

Oh, I see what you mean about the placebo effect Roweena.

Ferr.Phos is considered the pre-eminent biochemic first aid addressing coughs

colds, chills, inflamation, congestion, fever, headache. It's an oxygen carrier.

Calc.Phos. is considered the ideal tonic addressing chilblains, simple

anaemia, impaired digestion, teething and one other I can't make out, something

assimilation (looks like the word anal)

Dr.Carley had him on high potencies of Kali.Phos., Mag.Phos., Bioplasma which

is a combination of all 12 cell salts and Calc.Flour. for his decaying teeth.

She also told me to use them as I see fit, but basically I stopped after the 2

month protocol was over. Sheri N. gave me the thumbs down mostly I think because

of the high potency. I really don't know much about it Roweena, I was curious to

know how they worked for Audrey. Have you ever taken her off them to see how she

would do without?

Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

i misunderstood your question... new era is the brand we use and by

far the best i have tried...

she is taking ferr phos and calc phos at the moment because they match

her symptoms.

i have been using them for close to 10 years for myself. my homeopath

at first advised of which one was appropriate for my symptoms but i

have not needed his advise for many years. i refer to a book and match

the symptoms to the appropriate tissue salt (although in many instance

i know which one is required). he encourages me to take control of our

health and says my instincts when it comes to this stuff are always

spot on. we use them as soon as we see signs of ill health and many

times never need a remedy - i think they are really great and have

kept us away from seeing doctors for many years!

so i didnt mean i give her any which one to make her 'feel' like she is

better - i give her the appropriate one but its funny how she

associates them with making her feel better, so i know when she is not

well because she will ask for them because she says they make her feel

better - so that is why i referred to them having possible placebo

affect!

roweena x

On 22/01/2006, at 8:46 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

> Roweena - there are 12 tissue salts that I know of. Which ones and

> what potencies are you giving her? I don't know if they helped Henry

> as they were part of a protocol; something I no longer believe in.

> Protocols involve a 'catch all' combination of things making it

> impossible to know what the healing agent or agents are.

> Â Â

> Â I don't know that it is wise to use tissue salts as a placebo as

> they are not an innocuous substance. They should be prescribed by a

> qualified caregiver I think.

> Â Â

> Â Anita

> Â Â

> Â

> Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

> Â hi anita,

>

> i use 'new era' from the uk. 2 whenever i think of it - maybe five

> times yesterday (around every two hours). we have used these since

> she

> was only months old and have found them to be very effective in

> keeping

> temp under control - placebo too - she says they make her feel

> better.Â

> she will ask for them when she is not feeling well!!!

>

> did you find them useful for henry?

>

> she seems great today too so my feeling that is even though she has a

> compromised digestive system - this would normally be her weakness as

> far as health problems go, she can tolerate only 10 foods (which is

> why

> i was so concerned)... she is going to be fine. in 10 hours - it

> will

> have been 72 hours since she ate the suspect chicken which is the max

> time suggested for the food poisioning to occur... so fingers crossed

> we stay on track!

>

> roweena x

>

> On 22/01/2006, at 6:29 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

>

> > Hi Roweena,

> > Â I used to use tissue salts on Henry. May I ask which ones you

> are

> > using and at what dosage? I'm glad Audrey is happy today.ÂÂ

> > Â Anita

> >

> >Â Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

> > Â hi sheri,

> >

> > thanks for the suggestion... i really believe probiotics are

> > amazing.Â

> >Â audrey can not tolerate the brand i have, but i started to give

> her it

> >Â when this happened because i figured a behaviour reaction was

> better

> > than her getting very sick!!! just getting ready to do an order

> from

> >Â kirkmans in the usa as i have heard they are the best tolerated for

> >Â children as sensitive as audrey (adhd or autism).

> >

> >Â audrey has had a great day - she has complained of a sore tummy on

> and

> >Â off but no other symptoms, no fever, runny stools or temp (and to

> be

> >Â honest - sore tummies are not unusual for her as she suffers

> digestive

> >Â problems often - so it could be nothing or it could even be the

> > probiotic). she has been super happy (which is also not nec the

> norm

> > around her with all her food sensitivities) - so all is well! im

> > hoping things will be much the same tomorrow... i will do a post

> for

> >Â sure, let you know.

> >

> >Â tomorrow i will keep up transfer factor, probiotics and tissue

> salts.Â

> >Â i also gave her double doses of five mushrooms and chlorella the

> last

> > two days for detox, to help clear out any bacteria... all of

> this is

> >Â sure to have had an impact (not to mention me telling her she is

> > healthy and strong - she probably thinks im crazy!). im sure

> things

> >Â will be fine but was just wanting to be prepared incase!

> >

> >Â i appreciate everyones input!

> >

> >Â roweena x

> >

> >Â On 21/01/2006, at 11:33 PM, Sheri B. wrote:

> >

> >Â > Roween,

> > >Â Â Â

> > >   Don't know if you regularly give Audrey probiotics, but I'm

> >Â > becoming increasingly convinced that this helps with all sorts of

> > > digestive issues. Do a Google and you'll find that there are

> " even "

> >Â > peer-reviewed studies now that indicate that this does help..

> > >Â Â Â

> > >   There have been numerous rounds of vomiting/diarrhea stuff

> at my

> >Â > two older childrens' school and my kids have not once succombed

> to

> > it

> >Â > (as I knock on wood for good luck).

> > >Â Â Â

> > >   Just a thought! : )

> > >   Sheri B.

> >

> >

> >Â

[Guest guest]

the potency is only 6X. what potency was henry on?

i use them at the onset of illness and like i said - she does great -

we usually start with these and if symptoms persist or progress we move

on to a remedy but this is very rarely needed. i certainly dont use

them on a daily basis or even a weekly basis as she is mostly very

healthy. do you think this is a problem?

i dont know why i would have to stop using them? do you have info on

why sheri gave them the thumbs down?

roweena x

On 22/01/2006, at 10:37 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

> Oh, I see what you mean about the placebo effect Roweena.

>   

>    Ferr.Phos is considered the pre-eminent biochemic first aid

> addressing coughs colds, chills, inflamation, congestion, fever,

> headache. It's an oxygen carrier.

>   

>   Calc.Phos. is considered the ideal tonic addressing chilblains,

> simple anaemia, impaired digestion, teething and one other I can't

> make out, something assimilation (looks like the word anal)

>   

>   Dr.Carley had him on high potencies of Kali.Phos., Mag.Phos.,

> Bioplasma which is a combination of all 12 cell salts and Calc.Flour.

> for his decaying teeth. She also told me to use them as I see fit, but

> basically I stopped after the 2 month protocol was over. Sheri N. gave

> me the thumbs down mostly I think because of the high potency. I

> really don't know much about it Roweena, I was curious to know how

> they worked for Audrey. Have you ever taken her off them to see how

> she would do without?

>

> Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

>   i misunderstood your question...  new era is the brand we use and by

> far the best i have tried...

>

> she is taking ferr phos and calc phos at the moment because they match

> her symptoms.

>

> i have been using them for close to 10 years for myself.  my homeopath

> at first advised of which one was appropriate for my symptoms but i

> have not needed his advise for many years.  i refer to a book and

> match

> the symptoms to the appropriate tissue salt (although in many instance

> i know which one is required).  he encourages me to take control of

> our

> health and says my instincts when it comes to this stuff are always

> spot on.  we use them as soon as we see signs of ill health and many

> times never need a remedy - i think they are really  great and have

> kept us away from seeing doctors for many years!

>

> so i didnt mean i give her any which one to make her 'feel' like she

> is

> better - i give her the appropriate one but its funny how she

> associates them with making her feel better, so i know when she is not

> well because she will ask for them because she says they make her feel

> better - so that is why i referred to them having possible placebo

> affect!

>

> roweena x

>

>

> On 22/01/2006, at 8:46 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

>

> > Roweena - there are 12 tissue salts that I know of. Which ones and

> > what potencies are you giving her? I don't know if they helped Henry

> > as they were part of a protocol; something I no longer believe in.

> > Protocols involve a 'catch all' combination of things making it

> > impossible to know what the healing agent or agents are.

> >  Â Â

> >    I don't know that it is wise to use tissue salts as a placebo as

> > they are not an innocuous substance. They should be prescribed by a

> > qualified caregiver I think.

> >  Â Â

> >    Anita

> >  Â Â

> >  Â

> >  Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

> >    hi anita,

> >

> >  i use 'new era' from the uk.  2 whenever i think of it - maybe

> five

> >  times yesterday (around every two hours).  we have used these

> since

> > she

> >  was only months old and have found them to be very effective in

> > keeping

> >  temp under control - placebo too - she says they make her feel

> > better.Â

> >  she will ask for them when she is not feeling well!!!

> >

> >  did you find them useful for henry?

> >

> >  she seems great today too so my feeling that is even though she

> has a

> >  compromised digestive system - this would normally be her weakness

> as

> >  far as health problems go, she can tolerate only 10 foods (which is

> > why

> >  i was so concerned)...  she is going to be fine.  in 10 hours -

> it

> > will

> >  have been 72 hours since she ate the suspect chicken which is the

> max

> >  time suggested for the food poisioning to occur... so fingers

> crossed

> >  we stay on track!

> >

> >  roweena x

> >

> >  On 22/01/2006, at 6:29 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

> >

> >  > Hi Roweena,

> >  >    I used to use tissue salts on Henry. May I ask which ones

> you

> > are

> >  > using and at what dosage? I'm glad Audrey is happy today. 

> >  >    Anita

> >  >

> >  >  Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

> >  >    hi sheri,

> >  >

> >  >  thanks for the suggestion...  i really believe probiotics

> are

> >  > amazing.Â

> >  >  audrey can not tolerate the brand i have, but i started to give

> > her it

> >  >  when this happened because i figured a behaviour reaction was

> > better

> >  >  than her getting very sick!!!  just getting ready to do an

> order

> > from

> >  >  kirkmans in the usa as i have heard they are the best

> tolerated for

> >  >  children as sensitive as audrey (adhd or autism).

> >  >

> >  >  audrey has had a great day - she has complained of a sore

> tummy on

> > and

> >  >  off but no other symptoms, no fever, runny stools or temp (and

> to

> > be

> >  >  honest - sore tummies are not unusual for her as she suffers

> > digestive

> >  >  problems often - so it could be nothing or it could even be the

> >  >  probiotic).  she has been super happy (which is also not

> nec the

> > norm

> >  >  around her with all her food sensitivities) - so all is

> well!  im

> >  >  hoping things will be much the same tomorrow...  i will do

> a post

> > for

> >  >  sure, let you know.

> >  >

> >  >  tomorrow i will keep up transfer factor, probiotics and tissue

> > salts.Â

> >  >  i also gave her double doses of five mushrooms and chlorella

> the

> > last

> >  >  two days for detox, to help clear out any bacteria...  all

> of

> > this is

> >  >  sure to have had an impact (not to mention me telling her she

> is

> >  >  healthy and strong - she probably thinks im crazy!).  im

> sure

> > things

> >  >  will be fine but was just wanting to be prepared incase!

> >  >

> >  >  i appreciate everyones input!

> >  >

> >  >  roweena x

> >  >

> >  >  On 21/01/2006, at 11:33 PM, Sheri B. wrote:

> >  >

> >  >  > Roween,

> >  >  >Â Â Â

> >  >  >Â Â   Don't know if you regularly give Audrey

> probiotics, but I'm

> >  >  > becoming increasingly convinced that this helps with all

> sorts of

> >  >  > digestive issues.  Do a Google and you'll find that there

> are

> > " even "

> >  >  > peer-reviewed studies now that indicate that this does help..

> >  >  >Â Â Â

> >  >  >Â Â   There have been numerous rounds of

> vomiting/diarrhea stuff

> > at my

> >  >  > two older childrens' school and my kids have not once

> succombed

> > to

> >  > it

> >  >  > (as I knock on wood for good luck).

> >  >  >Â Â Â

> >  >  >Â Â   Just a thought!  : )

> >  >  >Â Â   Sheri B.

> >  >

> >  >

> >  > 

[Guest guest]

She had him on 30x three times a day during the protocol and suggested once a

day thereafter which I didn't do. Since I'm no expert, I really can't comment on

whether or not it's good or bad, but I would lean toward not a problem,

especially that the potency is so low and you don't administer every day. I mean

it sounds reasonable and it was prescribed by a homeopath. Sorry to place doubt,

it's just that you can't be too careful. :~)

Anita

Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

the potency is only 6X. what potency was henry on?

i use them at the onset of illness and like i said - she does great -

we usually start with these and if symptoms persist or progress we move

on to a remedy but this is very rarely needed. i certainly dont use

them on a daily basis or even a weekly basis as she is mostly very

healthy. do you think this is a problem?

i dont know why i would have to stop using them? do you have info on

why sheri gave them the thumbs down?

roweena x

On 22/01/2006, at 10:37 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

> Oh, I see what you mean about the placebo effect Roweena.

> Â Â

> Â Â Ferr.Phos is considered the pre-eminent biochemic first aid

> addressing coughs colds, chills, inflamation, congestion, fever,

> headache. It's an oxygen carrier.

> Â Â

> Â Calc.Phos. is considered the ideal tonic addressing chilblains,

> simple anaemia, impaired digestion, teething and one other I can't

> make out, something assimilation (looks like the word anal)

> Â Â

> Â Dr.Carley had him on high potencies of Kali.Phos., Mag.Phos.,

> Bioplasma which is a combination of all 12 cell salts and Calc.Flour.

> for his decaying teeth. She also told me to use them as I see fit, but

> basically I stopped after the 2 month protocol was over. Sheri N. gave

> me the thumbs down mostly I think because of the high potency. I

> really don't know much about it Roweena, I was curious to know how

> they worked for Audrey. Have you ever taken her off them to see how

> she would do without?

>

> Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

>  i misunderstood your question... new era is the brand we use and by

> far the best i have tried...

>

> she is taking ferr phos and calc phos at the moment because they match

> her symptoms.

>

> i have been using them for close to 10 years for myself. my homeopath

> at first advised of which one was appropriate for my symptoms but i

> have not needed his advise for many years. i refer to a book and

> match

> the symptoms to the appropriate tissue salt (although in many instance

> i know which one is required). he encourages me to take control of

> our

> health and says my instincts when it comes to this stuff are always

> spot on. we use them as soon as we see signs of ill health and many

> times never need a remedy - i think they are really great and have

> kept us away from seeing doctors for many years!

>

> so i didnt mean i give her any which one to make her 'feel' like she

> is

> better - i give her the appropriate one but its funny how she

> associates them with making her feel better, so i know when she is not

> well because she will ask for them because she says they make her feel

> better - so that is why i referred to them having possible placebo

> affect!

>

> roweena x

>

>

> On 22/01/2006, at 8:46 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

>

> > Roweena - there are 12 tissue salts that I know of. Which ones and

> > what potencies are you giving her? I don't know if they helped Henry

> > as they were part of a protocol; something I no longer believe in.

> > Protocols involve a 'catch all' combination of things making it

> > impossible to know what the healing agent or agents are.

> > Â Â

> > Â I don't know that it is wise to use tissue salts as a placebo as

> > they are not an innocuous substance. They should be prescribed by a

> > qualified caregiver I think.

> > Â Â

> > Â Anita

> > Â Â

> > Â

> >Â Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

> > Â hi anita,

> >

> > i use 'new era' from the uk. 2 whenever i think of it - maybe

> five

> > times yesterday (around every two hours). we have used these

> since

> > she

> >Â was only months old and have found them to be very effective in

> > keeping

> >Â temp under control - placebo too - she says they make her feel

> > better.Â

> >Â she will ask for them when she is not feeling well!!!

> >

> >Â did you find them useful for henry?

> >

> >Â she seems great today too so my feeling that is even though she

> has a

> >Â compromised digestive system - this would normally be her weakness

> as

> >Â far as health problems go, she can tolerate only 10 foods (which is

> > why

> > i was so concerned)... she is going to be fine. in 10 hours -

> it

> > will

> >Â have been 72 hours since she ate the suspect chicken which is the

> max

> >Â time suggested for the food poisioning to occur... so fingers

> crossed

> >Â we stay on track!

> >

> >Â roweena x

> >

> >Â On 22/01/2006, at 6:29 AM, Anita Durney wrote:

> >

> >Â > Hi Roweena,

> > > Â I used to use tissue salts on Henry. May I ask which ones

> you

> > are

> > > using and at what dosage? I'm glad Audrey is happy today.ÂÂÂ

> > > Â Anita

> >Â >

> > > Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

> > > Â hi sheri,

> >Â >

> > > thanks for the suggestion... i really believe probiotics

> are

> > > amazing.Â

> > > audrey can not tolerate the brand i have, but i started to give

> > her it

> > > when this happened because i figured a behaviour reaction was

> > better

> > > than her getting very sick!!! just getting ready to do an

> order

> > from

> > > kirkmans in the usa as i have heard they are the best

> tolerated for

> > > children as sensitive as audrey (adhd or autism).

> >Â >

> > > audrey has had a great day - she has complained of a sore

> tummy on

> > and

> > > off but no other symptoms, no fever, runny stools or temp (and

> to

> > be

> > > honest - sore tummies are not unusual for her as she suffers

> > digestive

> > > problems often - so it could be nothing or it could even be the

> > > probiotic). she has been super happy (which is also not

> nec the

> > norm

> > > around her with all her food sensitivities) - so all is

> well! im

> > > hoping things will be much the same tomorrow... i will do

> a post

> > for

> > > sure, let you know.

> >Â >

> > > tomorrow i will keep up transfer factor, probiotics and tissue

> > salts.Â

> > > i also gave her double doses of five mushrooms and chlorella

> the

> > last

> > > two days for detox, to help clear out any bacteria... all

> of

> > this is

> > > sure to have had an impact (not to mention me telling her she

> is

> > > healthy and strong - she probably thinks im crazy!). im

> sure

> > things

> > > will be fine but was just wanting to be prepared incase!

> >Â >

> > > i appreciate everyones input!

> >Â >

> > > roweena x

> >Â >

> > > On 21/01/2006, at 11:33 PM, Sheri B. wrote:

> >Â >

> > > > Roween,

> > > >Â Â Â

> > > >Â Â  Don't know if you regularly give Audrey

> probiotics, but I'm

> > > > becoming increasingly convinced that this helps with all

> sorts of

> > > > digestive issues. Do a Google and you'll find that there

> are

> > " even "

> > > > peer-reviewed studies now that indicate that this does help..

> > > >Â Â Â

> > > >Â Â  There have been numerous rounds of

> vomiting/diarrhea stuff

> > at my

> > > > two older childrens' school and my kids have not once

> succombed

> > to

> >Â > it

> > > > (as I knock on wood for good luck).

> > > >Â Â Â

> > > >Â Â  Just a thought! : )

> > > >Â Â  Sheri B.

> >Â >

> >Â >

> > >ÂÂ

[Guest guest]

At 04:23 PM 1/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:

>She had him on 30x three times a day during the protocol and suggested

once a day thereafter which I didn't do. Since I'm no expert, I really

can't comment on whether or not it's good or bad, but I would lean toward

not a problem, especially that the potency is so low and you don't

administer every day. I mean it sounds reasonable and it was prescribed by

a homeopath. Sorry to place doubt, it's just that you can't be too careful.

:~)

>

> Anita

>

>Roweena Timson <roweena@...> wrote:

> the potency is only 6X. what potency was henry on?

>

>i use them at the onset of illness and like i said - she does great -

>we usually start with these and if symptoms persist or progress we move

>on to a remedy but this is very rarely needed. i certainly dont use

>them on a daily basis or even a weekly basis as she is mostly very

>healthy. do you think this is a problem?

>

>i dont know why i would have to stop using them? do you have info on

>why sheri gave them the thumbs down?

>

>roweena x

>

The repetition of anything is not good, especially higher potencies 30X is

60C basically. And to routinely do anything like that is asking for trouble.

I am not a fan of cell salts but haven't used them much. I really look for

the one remedy that matches the symptom pciture. Some people use cell

salts that way and think that all can be healed just with those salts. I do

think that.

Sheri

>

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